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Dog days, fave Wit (white) beer

MOREKASHA Jun 10, 2011 09:27 AM

Boy do I miss Celis. I've been searching for a Wit that isn't cloying ot just plain awful. Just had an Allagash and loved it. I dont miss Wit Black though...

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    LStaff RE: MOREKASHA Jun 10, 2011 09:54 AM

    Never had a chance to try the Celis brewed Celis, but it came back for a while after the Miller failure and I thought was pretty good until they had some troublesome batches then it disappeared from the Boston market.

    Allagash was a favorite of mine too - can be inconsistent though as far as balance and spice level.

    Also liked Victory Whrilwind Wit as it was unique with its orangey flavors, but stopped buying it a few years back after getting some really phenolic batches.

    A little more expensive, but St. Bernardus Witbier and Hitachino Nest White Ale are both excellent.

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      MOREKASHA RE: LStaff Jun 10, 2011 12:10 PM

      I'm not fond of the victory beers, Hitachino is nice but more $ and not as fresh as something local. That said, I sed to really like the Redback white from Australia. haven't seen it in many a year....

    2. Insidious Rex RE: MOREKASHA Jun 10, 2011 11:12 AM

      Ive been enjoying Port City (Alexandria, VA) Optimal Wit these past few months. Its quite exceptional when fresh. Its a new brewery though so I doubt its gotten any play outside the Washington DC region but if you see it try it.

      If given the choice though Im more prone to german wheats and well made Kolshes, pilsners or non-dark lagers during the hot part of the year. Sometimes the more heavily spiced Wits overwhelm me with coriander and orange peal.

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        chuckl RE: MOREKASHA Jun 10, 2011 12:29 PM

        I just tried Upright Brewing's version of a wit beer called Pure Wit, and I really liked it. Spices are subtle, with a fair amount of lemony citrus up front and a bit of funk.

        1. Josh RE: MOREKASHA Jun 11, 2011 09:23 AM

          Unibroue's Blanche de Chambly
          Avery's White Rascal
          Ommegang Witte

          1. Tripeler RE: MOREKASHA Jun 11, 2011 10:41 AM

            Blanche de Namur from Belgium is my favorite witbier.

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              bulavinaka RE: MOREKASHA Jun 11, 2011 11:02 AM

              Russian River Brewery's Little White Lie - gotta grab it when it's released in the summer as it won't stick around for very long...

              1. scarmoza RE: MOREKASHA Jun 11, 2011 11:28 AM

                I love Wit/Wheat/White Beers, too.

                Alpine Beer Co made the most delicious White a couple summers back. I've been searching (and trying to make my own at home) as good - but it just hasn't happened yet. We tasted it side by side with Allagash. Alpine blew it away with it's complexity and aftertaste. I haven't really been able to enjoy Allagash since.

                Have you tried AleSmith Horny Devil? It's a Belgian Strong Ale (ABV: 11%) that rocks the coriander seeds and orange/citrus. Napa Smith makes a very nice Ginger Wheat, if you ever see it around. I tried the Weizenbock from Sierra Nevada last last week. It's a little too sweet for me but still a very good tasting beer.

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                  MOREKASHA RE: scarmoza Jun 11, 2011 01:49 PM

                  Had a Blanches du Bruselles on draft last night. For shame, not very tasty.

                2. alanbarnes RE: MOREKASHA Jun 11, 2011 05:35 PM

                  Oh, man, does this bring back memories. Pierre Celis opened his brewery a couple of miles from my house outside Austin - was that really 20 years ago? I've heard a rumor that Celis is back (brewed in Michigan now), but haven't had an opportunity to sample the stuff.

                  I did get a glass of St. Bernardus on tap a while back, and it was pretty tasty. The phenols and esters were definitely present, though, so if your complaint about beers being "cloying" means that you don't like the sweet banana and clove overtones that can sometimes be found in a Wit, it might not be your cup of tea. Since Celis came out of Hoegaarden, maybe that would hit the spot?

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                    MOREKASHA RE: alanbarnes Jun 12, 2011 05:06 AM

                    Yes, there is "Celis" that is brewed by some micro in Michigan. Not available in NY or NJ. Had it in DC last year but was only OK. It seem so strange that Miller sold the brand to some unknown (at least the the beer geeks I know in NYC, including myself). I'm surprised that some well known micro/craft didn't buy it considering the pedigree. Hoegaarden seems to be a pale imitation of it's former self. St B's, Have to look it up.

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                      LStaff RE: alanbarnes Jun 13, 2011 09:02 AM

                      I heard that Pierre Celis' daughter is trying to get a brewery started in Austin using her father's recipes. Also trying to get the Celis naming rights back from Michigan Brewing.

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                        MOREKASHA RE: LStaff Jun 13, 2011 09:08 AM

                        Make g-d bless her and may she have the wind @ her back....

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                      juantanamera RE: MOREKASHA Jun 11, 2011 06:16 PM

                      Jolly Pumkin Calabeza Blanca; like many of there beers, it has a touch of tartness, not a completely traditional wit but delicious.

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                        Josh RE: juantanamera Jun 12, 2011 04:50 PM

                        Second that, for sure.

                      2. dandyessex RE: MOREKASHA Jun 13, 2011 08:20 AM

                        1. St. Bernardus
                        2. Bavik Wittkerke
                        3. Hoegaarden Grand Cru

                        also... Dominus Vobiscum Blanche... only had this once, but remember it being very good!

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                          MOREKASHA RE: dandyessex Jun 13, 2011 09:07 AM

                          Grand Cru? I havent seen that Hoegaarden for 20 years or so.....

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