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Should pregnant women avoid eating smoked fish? [moved from Los Angeles board]

goodhealthgourmet Jun 2, 2011 10:00 AM

[NOTE: we've moved this discussion of the article at http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/daily... -- The Chowhound Team]

i'm *not* defending the way the restaurant handled the situation, but Gjelina has a rather extensive menu with a host of varied options so i'm trying to figure out why a *pregnant* woman was ordering the one item that contained smoked fish...

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  1. Servorg RE: goodhealthgourmet Jun 2, 2011 10:09 AM

    Father's Office is probably glad to see another LA place take some of the heat off of them for a change when it comes to the "no substitutions" policy that both have in place... ;-D>

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    1. Bob Brooks RE: goodhealthgourmet Jun 2, 2011 01:20 PM

      If I read the article correctly, the issue wasn't that the fish was smoked. It was that there were a number of ingredients piled on top of it they she wanted put to the side. A pretty minimal request if you ask me.

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        goodhealthgourmet RE: Bob Brooks Jun 2, 2011 02:22 PM

        you misunderstood my post - pregnant women aren't supposed to eat smoked fish so she shouldn't have been ordering that particular dish in the first place.

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          honkman RE: goodhealthgourmet Jun 3, 2011 04:06 PM

          "...pregnant women aren't supposed to eat smoked fish.." - Why shoudn't eat pregnant women smoked fish ?

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            tastycakes RE: honkman Jun 3, 2011 04:25 PM

            in house smoking can be done at varying temperatures and is therefore not always guaranteed to kill bacteria that could cause illness which is dangerous for the fetus.

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              goodhealthgourmet RE: honkman Jun 3, 2011 04:48 PM

              as tastycakes said, it's a bacterial issue, specifically Listeria. cold-smoked fish is the primary concern, but even hot-smoking may not kill the nasties if the temperature isn't high enough.

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                honkman RE: goodhealthgourmet Jun 3, 2011 05:05 PM

                We are currently expecting our first child and obviously have looked in depth into things like this (and many other potential issues) and it is very overblown and more a paranoia. Of course it depends how often you eat it and also how much you trust the restaurant in terms of quality of dealing with food but the likelihood of a problem is similar to having a car accident during pregnancy and I doubt you would stop driving a car. There are so many potential "dangers" during pregnancy that you have to be obviously much more careful than normal but many people tend toward paranoia

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                  goodhealthgourmet RE: honkman Jun 3, 2011 05:16 PM

                  obviously it's a personal choice whether one chooses to heed or ignore the recommendation from the USDA & CDC on this issue. the risk may be minimal, but it's not one that i would *personally* be willing to take when there are so many other options available to me, and i'm not the least bit "paranoid." i can easily survive for 9 months without eating smoked fish...car travel is an entirely different issue.

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                    honkman RE: goodhealthgourmet Jun 3, 2011 05:24 PM

                    Actually eating fish (obviously the "right" amounts and "right" fish) is even recommend by doctors and the FDA during pregnancy.

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                      goodhealthgourmet RE: honkman Jun 3, 2011 05:34 PM

                      i never said *all* fish should be avoided during pregnancy...?

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            AAQjr RE: Bob Brooks Jun 2, 2011 02:24 PM

            It is what it is. Whether it is easy or not is irrelevant.

            The policy is clearly stated and to complain about it because you are a celebrity is pretty tacky

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