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Jun 2, 2011 10:00 AM

Should pregnant women avoid eating smoked fish? [moved from Los Angeles board]

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i'm *not* defending the way the restaurant handled the situation, but Gjelina has a rather extensive menu with a host of varied options so i'm trying to figure out why a *pregnant* woman was ordering the one item that contained smoked fish...

1429 Abbot Kinney Blvd, Venice, CA 90291

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  1. Father's Office is probably glad to see another LA place take some of the heat off of them for a change when it comes to the "no substitutions" policy that both have in place... ;-D>

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    1618 Montana Ave, Santa Monica, CA

    1. If I read the article correctly, the issue wasn't that the fish was smoked. It was that there were a number of ingredients piled on top of it they she wanted put to the side. A pretty minimal request if you ask me.

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      1. re: Bob Brooks

        you misunderstood my post - pregnant women aren't supposed to eat smoked fish so she shouldn't have been ordering that particular dish in the first place.

        1. re: goodhealthgourmet

          "...pregnant women aren't supposed to eat smoked fish.." - Why shoudn't eat pregnant women smoked fish ?

          1. re: honkman

            in house smoking can be done at varying temperatures and is therefore not always guaranteed to kill bacteria that could cause illness which is dangerous for the fetus.

            1. re: honkman

              as tastycakes said, it's a bacterial issue, specifically Listeria. cold-smoked fish is the primary concern, but even hot-smoking may not kill the nasties if the temperature isn't high enough.

              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                We are currently expecting our first child and obviously have looked in depth into things like this (and many other potential issues) and it is very overblown and more a paranoia. Of course it depends how often you eat it and also how much you trust the restaurant in terms of quality of dealing with food but the likelihood of a problem is similar to having a car accident during pregnancy and I doubt you would stop driving a car. There are so many potential "dangers" during pregnancy that you have to be obviously much more careful than normal but many people tend toward paranoia

                1. re: honkman

                  obviously it's a personal choice whether one chooses to heed or ignore the recommendation from the USDA & CDC on this issue. the risk may be minimal, but it's not one that i would *personally* be willing to take when there are so many other options available to me, and i'm not the least bit "paranoid." i can easily survive for 9 months without eating smoked travel is an entirely different issue.

                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                    Actually eating fish (obviously the "right" amounts and "right" fish) is even recommend by doctors and the FDA during pregnancy.

                    1. re: honkman

                      i never said *all* fish should be avoided during pregnancy...?

          2. re: Bob Brooks

            It is what it is. Whether it is easy or not is irrelevant.

            The policy is clearly stated and to complain about it because you are a celebrity is pretty tacky