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jarschef Jun 1, 2011 02:36 PM

I am looking for a chip wagon (a truck that sells burgers, hot dogs, poutine) to come to my home for a party on a friday or saturday evening.
does anyone know of any? if not a chip wagon than any type of food truck you can hire for a private party.
thanks in advance

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    unlaced Jun 1, 2011 02:41 PM

    try the taco truck, Grumman 78
    http://grumman78.com/en

    However, I contacted them about something similar to what you are thinking and was a bit surprised by the cost ($20-48 per person, depending on ingredients/what you actually want to eat)

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    1. re: unlaced
      Haggisboy Jun 1, 2011 05:13 PM

      Hold on! Do we actually have these food wagons here in Montreal? Based on the website, I can only conclude that we do, but I thought chip wagons and other food wagons were banned by the Drapeau administration that either thought they were tacky and littery, and competed with the restaurants. I remember chip wagons as a kid, but they seemed to fade out slowly after Expo67. Can it be that Montreal has re-joined North America with the food wagon craze?

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        kpaxonite Jun 1, 2011 05:16 PM

        for a private function you can do whatever you want

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          Haggisboy Jun 6, 2011 04:26 AM

          Is there really that much of a profit to be made by investing in a fully equipped food truck that can only be used on a for-hire basis? The whole idea behind these things, in the States, at least, is that they are free to cruise the streets of the city, park, and sell their foods to street folks. That concept was definitely banned by one of Montreal's former city administrations.

          1. re: Haggisboy
            SnackHappy Jun 6, 2011 05:04 AM

            It's not just a food truck, it's also a catering business. They have gigs where they go sans-truck and they can be in more than one place at once. I think having the truck is a good way to get people talking about street food and get the attention of legislators. It's also good positioning before an eventual lift of the ban.

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          celfie Jun 4, 2011 12:15 PM

          taco trucks serves up weekends over night at nouveau palais
          it is way too expensive for the portion size though
          nouveau palais is a rip off in general

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            Ched1000 Jun 4, 2011 01:04 PM

            Comments like this make me wonder if Montrealers are ready to pay for quality ingredients. (I’m just back in town used to lived in Europe for the last 3 years)

            Grumman is too expensive, really? 2 snow crabs tacos for 8$ is too expensive? Filled with extremely fresh ingredients... Go to El Ray Del Taco then, you will have three smaller low quality tacos for 8$... Or get two smaller bistek tacos at La Matraca for 6$ (which are, btw, not in the same league...). I went to Alex Stupack’s Empellon two weeks ago and paid 16$ for two tacos that were, at best, comparable to Grumman’s…

            As for your comment on le Nouveau Palais being a rip-off: that's a big statement... I totally disagree… Pretty descend burger & fries 10$, really tasty (IMO the best in Montréal) mac&cheese 7$... OK poulet chasseur 11$... A small but decent wine list… Ok, le Nouveau Palais is a tad more expensive then old school greasy spoons (rapido’s kind) but way way better. I think we should welcome more of these small unpretentious places that are open until late. It’s something really lacking in Montreal.

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              maj54us Jun 4, 2011 01:24 PM

              NP is catering to people that can spend money. If I went there 3-4 times a week I would be broke bythe end of the month. Food has been upgraded to a better quality from previous ownership. Only name remained and the ugly decoration that need a major revamping. But yes it is expensive for a student with a tight budget but they also have a good burger that is affordable.

              Listed on chow under the english name

              Nouveau Palais

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              Nouveau Palais
              281 Rue Bernard W, Montreal, QC H2V1T5, CA

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                Ched1000 Jun 4, 2011 01:38 PM

                I was actually referring to the "Nouveau" Nouveau Palais. My point is: you get what you pay for... Often montrealers want "le beurre, l'argent du beurre et la fermiere avec"...

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                  j_do Jun 5, 2011 10:43 PM

                  7$ cheese fries.. bland melted cheese over frozen fries.. right. i would hardly consider that getting what you pay for.

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                    Ched1000 Jun 6, 2011 06:18 AM

                    You're right for the fries & cheese sauce. However, that's one item... It's a bit of stretch to judge a restaurant over one item... There are plenty of honest offerings in the menu. (see my post above)

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                celfie Jun 6, 2011 10:50 AM

                NP is amateur hour. underseasoned and overpriced, losing battle.

                I've never had snow crab taco from grumman but the taco's I've had were absolutely tiny. If they want to play taco truck they should visit california. Just because their pork shoulder is slow cooked doesn't make it a top quality ingredient.

                People are so forgiving re: Nouveau Palais - I suspect those people have never been to any place doing similar food professionally. Anyways, I just don't go. Late night, I much prefer an old fashion gyro plate at Arahova.

                I must add that their pumpkin pie is prettyyyyy good and so is their coleslaw - but the rest is just not worth it

                Just because your ex-vegan friends think your au jus is good doesn't mean it is professional caliber!

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                  Ched1000 Jun 6, 2011 11:11 AM

                  Ok,

                  That's your opinion I respect it. However I will stick to the fact that using the word "rip-off" is a bit strong... Outside internet's anonymity, this type of statement could even have consequences.

                  Now Grumman, They can't play the taco truck game... Too bad for us... That has also a huge impact on the economics of taco catering wich in return affect unit cost...

                  Reading a lot of the discussions in this foreum I would say that we are not that forgiving... But I'm not sure we do have a good understanding of restaurant economics...

                  Arahova: I guess we do agree sometimes... However, I just go out too often to always have the same late nite munchie plug...

                  Regards

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                    Shattered Jun 6, 2011 12:24 PM

                    "Just because your ex-vegan friends think your au jus is good doesn't mean it is professional caliber!"

                    LOL Best comment on Mile End hipsterism I've seen in a while.

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                      Ched1000 Aug 17, 2011 09:22 AM

                      "ex-vegan friends think your au jus is good doesn't mean it is professional caliber"
                      To my point : just ran into a friend yesterday. He confimed that the "amateur" who is now behind the Nouveau Palais spent two years in the kitchen of an obscur place called Club Chasse & Peche... For the friend bit: I never even talk to her... Please keep down your assuptions until you can confirm...

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                        celfie Aug 17, 2011 10:01 AM

                        chopping onions?

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                          Ched1000 Aug 17, 2011 10:34 AM

                          Dont know; you say...

            2. re: unlaced
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              jarschef Jun 2, 2011 06:03 AM

              unfortunately the taco truck isn't available when i need it.. thanks for the idea

              1. re: jarschef
                humbert Jun 2, 2011 08:03 AM

                Chenoy's has something like that.

                http://www.chenoys.com/

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              EaterBob Jun 4, 2011 12:12 PM

              Call up Dic Ann's
              http://www.dicanns.ca/Dic_Anns_Hambur...

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                wilmagrace Jun 18, 2011 07:15 PM

                Gruman taco truck was at francofolies festival and willbe there for jazz festival and although I am not one to order tacos I really enjoyed their versions. They had two pork tacos for $9 and I substituted a veggie one (kidney beans, feta, radish, cilantro, pimenton.) for variety. I liked both as full of flavours, not spicy and colourful, the pork one topped with slices of marinated carrots with sesame seeds. My favourite was the pork one. Much more satisfying than the hot dogs available on festival site.
                http://grumman78.com/

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                  wilmagrace Jul 3, 2011 08:22 AM

                  big success this grumans truck as word got around, long lineups and they couldnt keep up, ran out of gazpacho soup last night. I tried both barbecue and vietnamese pork versions yesterday and with the toppings of marinated veggies really were tasty In spite of pressures staff were friendly and in good humour (openly drinking beer during food preparation which might have helped!). Tourists from mexico were in front of me said they are repeat customers as tacos so good. Maybe grumans rather than petitions are way to push open street food access. Owner did make a point in an interview that their customers are not those of restaurants +just wanting alternative to fastfoods.

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                    Haggisboy Jul 3, 2011 08:59 AM

                    I think it's seriously high time the folks here in Montreal started making noise with their politicians to repeal that antiquated Drapeau-era law outlawing chip wagons and food trucks. I remember as a kid in Lachine, growing up in a sprawling multi-block area of apartments, with nary a restaurant nearby for kilometers, and a chip wagon would roll up to the center of the complex, beep his distinctive horn or ring his bell, and folks would stream out picking up stuff for a cheap summer's night dinner.

                    And how is it that those canteen trucks can operate and not food trucks?

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                      chickenbruiser Jul 3, 2011 09:15 AM

                      I may be wrong but as far as I can tell, canteen trucks operate on private property (parking lots of businesses) not on the street... my other theory is that they don't operate a real kitchen (food is preprepared... wrapped and sealed)...
                      my only issue about repealing the Drapeau law is that we'd need to institute some design guidelines cause from what I've seen in my travels... taco trucks need to attract attention which usually means colour and design nightmare... some are cute the first time you see them...

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                looosia Jul 3, 2011 09:15 AM

                Article in the gazoo on Gunman 78's taco truck with link to their banh mi pork taco recipe:

                http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/M...

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                  westaust Jul 4, 2011 10:22 AM

                  Went a couple of times in the span of the last week since they were parked at the Jazz Fest.

                  Tried the Pork Banh mi taco, the BBQ Pork with the extra crab and the gazpacho, all really good and make me want even more food trucks in this city!

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                    marblebag Jul 4, 2011 12:03 PM

                    That ain't any banh mi recipe I've seen. When I ate the "vietnamese" pork all I tasted was the hoisin. If you're in Orange County, CA go look for the Dos Chinos truck for some real vietnamese flavors.

                  2. Haggisboy Aug 19, 2011 08:34 AM

                    Graeme Hamilton wrote an interesting column in the Aug. 15 edition of the National Post on Montreal's ban of chip wagons, food trucks and street vendors.

                    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2...

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                      mangoannie Feb 16, 2012 11:53 AM

                      Grumman 78 will be in quartier des spectacles 5-11 today and tomorrow, sat. noon til 11, sunday 12-5. They do not go out much in winter as aluminum body makes it too cold inside the truck. As per interview on radio the Faubourg place is going to start up mid or end of March -construction changes to start this week. One of the owners said they decided on permanent place as they are not making headway with city in changing laws, however will continue to use truck. At Faubourg they will be at end on 2nd foor taking over hot dog place, next to dollar store. Thinking fried chicken, salads, tacos and maybe guest chefs from in and around Montreal. Production for both outlets will continue in St Henri with just assembly of tacos done on the two sites. No poutine tacos envisioned (interviewer question)as want to keep originality of product and had enough of that at PDC. Plan to update on FB and twitter.

                      I think I put this in wrong thread but couldnt find the gruman one

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                      1. re: mangoannie
                        SnackHappy Feb 16, 2012 12:10 PM

                        What? Hot-Dog Guysss closed? That was totally unforeseen.

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