"Only in Canada" food items: add to the list
Thought this would be an interesting exercise. Just off the top of my head: Smarties, Caramilk, Coffee Crisp, milk in bags (not jugs as in the States), butter tarts, I think Nanaimo bars are only available here...
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I'm not sure about these items at all but
sucre à la crème? it's a bit like fudge squares in texture...brown sugar, powdered sugar, maple syrup, cream.guédille? it's hotdog bun you find in fast food places, they fill it with any type of mayonnaise based salad, and dump fries and cabbage on it sometimes.
ragoût de pattes de cochon? a stew made of pork hocks and meatballs, which ends up being a thick brown cinnamony, nutmeggy type of stew.
six-pâtes or cipaille? this is a traditional quebec pie that is filled with layer after layer of lard, onions, potatoes, rabbit, deer,moose,and partridge that have been marinated.
I'm not sure if these are exclusive, I know sucre à la crème ,ragoût de pattes and six-pâtes are traditional quebec meals and guédille sort of a newcomer from the 20th century (like poutine), just not sure if you find that elsewhere or not.
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Any Presidents Choice product. The Decadent comes to mind! Best store bought chocolate chip cookie in a bag if you ask me. Ice Wine from the Niagara Pennisula. Although, I think it is becoming more well known and may show up in fine dining establishments across the border. Schreech from our East Coast brethren. BC wild salmon, PEI Mussels, Life Savers. I remember as a kid looking out over the escarpment and seeing the lit up life saver building. The plant shut down in the 70's. Allans' Chocolate (Easter), E.D. Smith Jams, Nutella, Bick's Pickles and relish. Hellman's Mayo made with Olive Oil and Becel made with Olive Oil. My father-in-law is a snow bird and takes a case with him down to Florida. In return he brings back a couple of cases of Greased Lightning. The all purpose cleaner (including laundry) I have ever used.
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re: 02putt
PC products are sold in some groceries in the NY area, I think D'Agostino's.
Are PC cookies made by Dare? Are Dare cookies still sold? I was probably 65% Dare chocolate fudge cookies when I was little.
Ice wine is known here (German as well as Canadian ones).
Were Life Savers originally Canadian???-
re: buttertart
Niagara ice wine is widely exported (it wouldn't surprise me if that's what happens to most of it).
A quick Google says Life Savers originally came from Cleveland, and that Hellmann's EVOO mayo is available in the US.
This thread is interesting... almost every claim to "only in Canada" status has been summarily shot down. Is anyone keeping track of what's left on the list?
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re: Mr F
A lot of products originated in Canada but as our exports far out way our imports it stands to reason that these products have been shipped and/or the rights sold to manufacture the product elsewhere. It is much cheaper for them. Hell, Bell Canada outsourced their call centre to India.
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re: 02putt
Maybe so, but my point is that most of the products mentioned in this thread have been shown either to have completely non-Canadian origins, or to be available outside Canada -- thus not meeting any definition of "only in Canada".
You could make a case for local/regional perishables like PEI mussels, but then again there's nothing particularly Canadian about mussels in general, and nothing really special about the PEI ones (at least not after they've travelled off the Island).
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re: Mr F
I beg to differ about PEI mussels. They are fantastic compared to the likes of New Zealand ones. There is a reason chefs in St Martin have them flown in fresh and pay big bucks to do so. They in return pass the cost onto the customer which pay willingly. Besides I didn't think the original post was only goods that are preprocessed. I thought it was open ended.
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re: 02putt
AFAIK most if not all of the mussels we get here in Montreal are PEI mussels, and they pale in comparison to the ones I've had in Italy and Spain. It isn't even close. I do prefer them to those enormous Pacific mussels, though.
But I have not had the PEI ones either in PEI or flown-in to a high-end restaurant in St Martin, so I will take your word for it that they can be that good -- I'm just saying we don't get them that good here.
As for the original post... it's open-ended sure, but it says "only *available* here" and that's the spirit in which most of the posters took it. So, um, I guess we can scratch PEI mussels off the list, eh? ;)
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re: 02putt
Presidents Choice was adopted by a local Boston supermarket chain some years back as their "house" brand. I quite liked many of their products but they dropped them after a few years, probably because the US$ was falling against the CAD$ so they were no longer such a good deal.
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re: BobB
President's Choice is an Albertson's staple whether it be an Albertson's store or a regional store like Jewel in Chicago. The supermarket industry has seen the number of independants shrink dramatically whether it be Loblaws or Safeway you will find that most large supermarkets are either loblaws an Albertson's or Safeway and Dominic's in Chicago I am grateful that I have a Price Chopper to go to as President's Choice in the States is an economy store brand like no name and the quality is always suspect. President's Choice Canada and US same name same corporate owner dramatically different products.
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re: BobB
President's Choice is a store brand in Canada too. It is only at grocery stores owned by or affiliated with Loblaws. So in the part of Canada where I am that is most often the Real Atlantic Superstore. All of the national ads for PC feature Galen Weston Jr., the Executive Chairman, and one of the major owners, of Loblaws.
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re: petek
I absolutely love the sour Maynard's. Not Dole or any other brand will do! It must be the Maynard's Sour Wine Gums. They are not soft and mushy but hard like wine gums and are coated with a sugar. Thanks...now I am drooling. (I don't buy them often as there is something like 38g of sugar for 8 pieces) lol
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re: SnackHappy
You're right SnackHappy.Just "wikied" it. Dang it!!
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Most vivid memory of a drive from Winnipeg to Montreal via the northernmost highways was fried chicken with pinfeathers. That and poutine. And a Ukrainian meal in Winnipeg, but I don't remember trying salo.
Now I'm remembering an elaborate donut emporium somewhere near Lake Nipigon. About half the clientele must have been Ojibway. Variations on the donut theme were more varied than down here.
I don't think I ever saw game or local fish on the menu.
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Are salt and vinegar chips still hard to find? Coming from good British stock :-), I was addicted to them as a pup in Vancouver and pined for them when we traveled in the Americas. I still get the odd funny look in the US when I ask for white vinegar with my fries...
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re: jubilant cerise
I think white vinegar on fries might be known in the US, but only along the border. The further south, the wierder the looks. Note grayelf's use of "white" - this may be the default in Canada, but when asking for vinegar in the US, you will many times get malt.
I remember being 11 years old or so and on the boardwalk in Atlantic City. I bought a french fry and searched the counter for the vinegar, but there was none. I asked the fry slinger (he looked ancient, maybe 50...) if he had any vinegar. He frowned, turned, and started rooting through his bric a brac. Maybe 8 minutes later, he plops a bottle on the counter, disgusted. Being 11, I only knew one kind of vinegar, and the brown stuff in the bottle was not it. I was confused as it DID say vinegar on the label...meanwhile, Joe the dreaded fry slinger was boring holes through me with his eyes. So I pop the cap and nonchalantly sprinkle some of this brown "vinegar" onto my nice bag of chips and walk away, head held high. Once out of sight of mean Joe, I tasted a fry and IT WAS HORRIBLE! Blech. Joe the fry slinger poisoned my fries!
I explained this to my parents, but alas, they were not so understanding (adding insult to injury, they actually LAUGHED). I asked for more money to get another fry, but as I "wasted" the first one, the answer was no...
A lesson learned - don't ever, never be fooled by American vinegar.It was only many years later that I could appreciate different vinegars for different applications.
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re: porker
When I was a kid we took a family vacation along the shore of Lake Superior through Thunder Bay all the way around to Sault Ste. Marie, through the UP, Wisconsin, and back home. While in Canada we were at first perplexed and then a little amused at the bottle of vinegar on the restaurant tables with the salt, pepper and ketchup. Though I always thought it was malt vinegar.
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re: porker
Fish and chips places, yes - but the first place I saw malt vinegar was at the H. Salt I worked at during high school in London, Ont. - before that, the indigenous (and much better, but not hiring) f&c place, the Hobby Nook, only had white. White is on casual restaurant tables as a routine thing, malt is unusual.
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Veggie pâté (vegetarian version of pâté)--it's really good! I had never heard of it or tried it until I moved to Québec from Toronto. I wonder if France has this, though I doubt it would be carried anywhere else in the world.
Tim Horton's cherry cake timbit. Totally nastiness, but another Québec item not seen in Ontario and I also doubt they carry this in U.S. Tim Horton's outlets.
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet: BGH-free milk and beef. Not exactly exciting or tasty, but pretty comforting.
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re: TorontoJo
Are you saying this is not available outside of Canada? Yes the government has blocked its use (and many countries in Europe) but finding rBGH-Free Meats and Dairy products is easy as ever at any local grocery store here in Boston, and I am pretty sure that is consistent throughout the country.
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re: Matt H
I'm not familiar with the current state of BGH in the States. But when I left Chicago in the early 90s, BGH was still used and BGH-free items weren't being marketed yet. So consumers weren't really educated and didn't really have a choice. If things have changed now, that's great. All I was saying is that BGH was never approved for use in Canada, so it's kinda nice to not have to think about it.
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re: TorontoJo
Gotcha, I just wanted to check for clarification. I cant comment on BGH in the States in the 90's, as I was living in Toronto at that time. But since moving to the States its been well marketed and available anywhere I regularly shop.
I agree never having to seek out these items though is comforting to a certain extent.
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re: TorontoJo
rBGH is still used in the US. I was living in CA when rBGH was approved for dairy use by the FDA in 1993, and immediately dairies that did not use it began getting the word out. Milk carton labels since the mid-'90s always state when dairies do not use it (they are required, however, to have fine print somewhere on the carton saying there's no discernable difference in the milk). And of course, nothing organic will have it. I have seen comments on Chowhound about price differences, but I think it depends on area; in the areas of Northern CA and NYC I've lived in, all brands in local supermarkets, including store brands, were marked rBGH-free.
Hormones are no doubt used in industrially ranched beef, but there are plenty of sources that do not use them.
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Modified milk ingredients that have replaced real milk in a good percentage of cheese, ice cream, chocolate milk, yogurt, sour cream found in Canadian grocery stores, to the point where certain products can no longer be called ice cream, milk, cheese. Gotta love that frozen dessert and chocolate dairy beverage. Made in Canada indeed.
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re: KateW1
You get what you pay for. The consumer demand is what drives the desire for low cost ingredients if the bulk consumer was willing to pay for real ice cream and real milk the number of products containing modified ingredients would be lessened. Fortunately here in Quebec and on the other side of town in Vermont the availability of quality products is still excellent.
Keep in mind that top quality cheeses both here and in Vermont start at about $25 a kilo and that milk sells anywhere from $3 a gallon to $3 a quart in Vermont and in Quebec milk starts at $6+ for 4.5 litres but our milk tastes better than stuff I had when I lived elsewhere. Premium ice cream is more expensive to the comparable product here but our local dairy puts out a fabulous product at far below what it costs elsewhere. Cabot cheese from Vermont is not artisanal but it is superior to comparably priced products elsewhere. Both Quebec and Vermont try to encourage their dairy producers to produce quality. I don't know where you live but here in my small town in Quebec the local IGA has at least 50 world class cheeses on sale mostly from Quebec but some from France and Spain. He has them because people are willing to pay for them.
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Chicken balls with sweet & sour sauce. While there's plenty of sweet & sour chicken in the States, my Californian relatives have mentioned a couple times they've only seen chicken balls on Chinese Canadian menus. Although I'm sure some States must have Chinese American restaurants serving chicken balls.
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re: prima
I'm not going to make a capon joke because I think you are on to something here. On both sides of the border we have these dishes devised here by Chinese railroad workers and their descendants and sold here as "Chinese Food". Chicken Balls are a unique Canadian variation, basically think of them as a chicken croquette with electric orange sweet and sour sauce. Even in cases where I've bumped into a similar things in the US the batter used is a totally different stuff and they usually aren't spherical.
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re: KilgoreTrout
Totally different thing, these are spherical, about the size of a golf ball and the batter is at least 1/4" thick, or more, some examples have the tiniest chunk of chicken in the middle they can get away with. Kind of like a doughy version of a hushpuppy with a chunk of chicken in the middle.
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My grandparents lived in Canada (and we lived in Buffalo), and I loved MacIntosh Toffee, C+ Soda (I loved the cans with the two circles you pushed in) and Tim Horton's before it hit the States (gram always bought us a box of Tim Bits). One more thought: truly delicious gravy fries. Oh, Canada!
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The Costco stores in Canada seem to support some unique Canadian products.
Poutine, Dunn's smoked meat, Freybe's Canadian Bacon, Gaspe salt cod, scallops from Newfoundland and Labrador, frozen canned lobster, and humongous potatoes from Prince Edward Island.I asked about their poutine and it is reasonably authentic: Cavendish P.E.I. fries, chicken based gravy, and Quebec curds.
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re: jayt90
PEI potatoes are great all purpose potatoes but I would never consider using them for fries unless there were no Quebec , New Brunswick or even Maine potatoes available. The sweetness derived from growing in the rich muck soils of New Brunswick and Quebec cannot be duplicated by the wonderful red clay soil of PEI which grows potatoes which blossom to full flower when married to garlic and especially butter. PEI potatoes may make the best McD style fry but for great poutine and golden sweet greasy fries Quebec and New Brunswick are de riguer. I personally would never waste good cheese curds on a Cavendish potatoe although it might make the best potato salad in the world.
My choice for the best French Fried potatoes would be those from around St Bernard De LaColle and I do hope the Richelieu flooding does not affect their potato harvest. One cannot make authentic poutine with PEI potatoes and that is the truth. -
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re: jeanmarieok
french canadians often call the cheese curds "fromage squick squick" because when it's super fresh and still makes that "squick squick" noise between your teeth, that's when it should be eaten. So I have to vote really fresh and never refrigerated for cheese curds in poutine. A lot of people like the st-hubert sauce, not me...I like it mine deep brown with lots of flavour, but that's debatable. The best fries for it I think are the greasy brown, softish ones you get in greasy spoon type restaurant. A lot of personal opinion,except for the cheese. I have never heard of a Quebec person who thought that cheese shouldn't make noise between your teeth.
I'm in the midwest now and near wisconsin, they have cheese curds but so far have only found non-noise making ones...I'm still searching.Best poutine I've had? In Montreal, at La Banquise.
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re: cactusette
I agree completely and here in Stanstead Quebec in the heart of squeaky cheese country our local diner Chez Papa serves them just that way. Take heart New Era Dairy in New Era Michigan sells squeaky cheese not every day can you get it warm and most of the time they add colouring but if you call ahead maybe someone taking the ferry across from Ludington to Manitouok can bring in a load of squeaky cheese and Michigan potatoes from the New Era area make excellent golden sweet fries comme il faut a Quebec. I also agree Ontario style gravy makes better poutine now if I can only persuade my wife and doctor to let me get the poutine at Papa's more than once a month.
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re: cactusette
I've once had fresh non-refrigerated cheese curds when i was visiting Wisonsin, at the farmers market held in front of the Capitol in Madison, they were similar in texture to the ones found in Quebec (were i'm from) but less salty in taste. And made a bit of noise when eating them
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re: porker
porker, you mean other by you above:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7876...
And the very long discussion of it after? :)
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Weirdly - I now live basically in the middle of nowhere, NC, USA - the gas station down the road carries Coffee Crisp. Haven't seen them anywhere else around here (though I don't remember them being in yellow wrappers - I would have sworn under oath they came in red wrappers).
During a trip into town earlier this year I was stunned to came across - not that it stopped me from stocking up/hoarding them - various St. Hubert BBQ and VH packets/sauces (I'm not sure VH is Canadian, I've just never seen it outside Montreal before). Also, the Fresh Market was selling packets of smoke meat that, if this makes sense, you leave in the package and place it in hot or boiling water to reheat before serving(?). The packets were very small - I think it would have taken four or five to equal a sandwich the size I seem to remember getting at Dunn's - plus each package was around eight or nine dollars, so I didn't pick any up.
Can't find any type of spruce beer or any Brio, though (not that I'm sure either of those is 100% Canadian).
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re: blackoak
Coffee Crisp wrappers were always yellow with red letters - and were 2 layers, the inner one being a foilish thing that had a vaguely cigarette-package naughtiness to it. They had them at my subway station in Broooklyn for a while but they were too long and in a very ordinary wrapper - and didn't taste as remembered.
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re: RhondaB
Speaking of Kit Kats, yes they do carry them in the US and other places but I am constantly told that the Canadian one is much better tasting. Has to do with the chocolate. Any yes, Coffee Crisp comes in yellow wrappers with red lettering but not in cigarette package form. That would be a Kit Kat.
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re: Duppie
No, Crunchie is the Violet Crumble equivalent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunchie
Crispy Crunch is like a Butterfinger.
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Here have been aot of products mentioned here that I have seen and purchased in stores such as Oh Henry candy bars, bags of milk, Dill Pickle Chips, Smarties, and Red River Cereal. Of course it could be Minnesota's proximity to Canada too. Although there really are not many people living in that part of Canada. As for Red River Cereal, the Red River does originate in Minnesota. We had some Red River on a deer hunting trip and a cousin asked what it was, I just told him it was like hot Metamucil.
I remember getting the Mackintosh toffee when I was a kid. My best friend's mother was British and they went to England a few times and brought some back. Many years later I bought some on an Ontario fishing trip. Just a year later on another fishing trip the bars were gone and the wrapped pieces in a bag were all that was available.
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Aged Cheddar used to be almost impossible to find in the US and really aged Cheddar still is (the Trader Joe's is maybe 2 years if that, ok but no hell).
I'm very grateful indeed to my cheese connection in TO who sends me Balderson's 6 year old.
We always had 5-7 year old and sometimes as much as 20 year old in the fridge at home in London. My father and grandpa used to refer to the old old stuff as "moose milk cheese". !!!
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The Five Alive juice drink. I remember drinking it a lot as a kid in Toronto, but then my parents had to move us south of the border. My cousins know to stock up when I visit.
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More regional products: Moon Mist ice cream and mini-sips (basically liquid Kool-Aid sold in small pouches that you pierce with a straw), available only in the Maritimes, as far as I know.
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Milk in bags is a regional thing. IIRC it's sold in bags in Ontario but not out here in Alberta or BC.
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Baked goods I've never seen anywhere but: dream cake (a layered coconutty/walnutty square more than a cake, with a pink icing) and orange crullers (twisted cake donut sticks with a tart orange glaze with orange peel in it). Fondly remembered from bakeries on the way to or near the cottage (Port Franks, the bakeries were in Thedford and Forest).
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re: jlhinwa
The Mackintosh toffee in the bar format is no longer made, Nestle owns the brand and makes cello wrapped toffee candies with that name, they claim that they can be substituted in recipes but somehow now it doesn't seem right to not have to break the bar by smashing on the sidewalk.
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re: im_nomad
I came here to mention Mackintosh toffee. So sorry to hear it has changed. The last time I had some was about 5 years ago and, like Jlhinwa, was surprised I never lost a tooth... I never won anything on the various contests which is just as well since claiming a prize from the US would have been a PITA!
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re: bytepusher
I am fortunate to live in a city where a lot of British people emigrated to Canada in the late 60's and 70's. My parents being 2 of them. So we have a couple of British Shops in town. I can still buy Mackintosh in the bar format. I can also get Bachelor Peas as well as a lot of other British Imports.
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McLaren's Imperial cold pack cheddar. The only product of its kind worth eating. Even though it is a Kraft product and similar products are made by quality cheese makers like Cabot. McClarens Imperial is the only cold pack cheese food that rivals and in many ways surpasses real cheese.
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re: EM23
Ah, I see now what is happening; the lines are getting blurred on both sides of the 45th Parallel...at least in the border states/provinces. Michigan has Timmie's, too; have several young relatives working at one of them. Hot turkey (chicken, beef, pork) sandwiches are a staple of home-cookin' in The Big Mitten. I guess this is a universal phenomenon; my Danish grandmother made "Danish fruit soup" but it's exactly the same ingredients/method as that in one of my German cookbooks that therein is called "German fruit soup." You guys own hockey, though, and proved it in 2010 at Vancouver.
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re: EM23
Okay; time to go out and renew my passport (isn't that just a pain in the border-crossing butt?) because I am way overdue for my usual 'run' across Ontario and this year, I have a list--courtesy of this forum--of special things to look for during the adventure. I must confess to never having a TH's anything...deprived I've been. OOPS! I just lied; the last time I came across ON, a counter person in one of the Service Centre restaurants surreptitiously suggested I go on down the line to the TH's to get the coffee that otherwise I'd pay an arm and leg for; she said theirs was a lot less expensive and better. My kind of lady! What is the ONE food item at THs that I should try first?
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re: Blush
Yes, it is in Hamilton. It is on Ottawa Street in the lower east end. Tim Horton's requires that the franchises be renovated every so many years. They had left the original one as it was but time took its toll and it had to be replaced. The new building still stands in the same location and there is a plaque on the outside commemorating it as store #1. Unfortunately, when Timmi's went the frozen dough route to increase profits the donuts and baked goods have never been the same. Where at one time the food was freshly prepared and they sold pie etc it was excellent. Now I am sad to say it is mediocre at best. There are other coffee shops where the food and coffee is much better at the same price or cheaper. Think Coffee Time or Country Style. But people are loyal to the brand.
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Chapman's Ice cream
Kawartha Dairy and Mapleton's Organic Ice creams
Club House Montreal Steak Spice
Breton Crackers by Dare (I think)
Red River Cereal
Thrills Gum
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Drinks: the Bloody Caesar is virtually unknown in the US, as is what my father called Calgary red-eye, beer and tomato juice mixed 50/50 (excellent for a hangover, but when I ask for it in the States it's a whole new concept virtually everywhere). Have to ask for a beer and a tomato juice and an extra glass, then put up with raised eyebrows when I make my own.
Foods: Back bacon - they sell "Canadian bacon" here, but it's usually completely round and more hammy than bacony, not the cured loin strip I know and love. Americans also seem to think that the real Canadian bacon is peameal, which I've never been crazy about and was always considered inferior in our house.›2 Replies-
re: buttertart
"then put up with raised eyebrows" - hell, I get comments like "Thats disgusting" or "where the hell YOU from?"
Beer and tomato is quite tasty, but beer and clamato is downright delicious. Budweiser came out with a "Chelada" in the states - Budweiser (or bud lite) mixed with clamato. At first I thought it was going to taste awful - like the Miller Chill lime beer which misses the point altogether. However, the Chelada is very good.
I spoke to a beer truck delivery guy in Plattsburgh a few years ago and asked him about the Chelada sales. He said depending on location, it either doesn't sell at all, or they can't keep it stocked.
While in Mexico, it seems everyone knows about beer and tomato or beer and clamato; "Ojo Rojo", the red eye...
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Joe Louis'
Lune/MoonsWas Black Cat gum Canadian? Mojos?
A friend from Newfoundland always brings back "Newfoundland savoury" - she swears it's different.
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I'd like to say "beer", but even tongue-in-cheek would likely raise a ruckus.
Not sure, but
poutine (Quebec and maritimes version)
Montreal style smoked meat (although Brooklyn has Mile End)
Newfoundland Screech
Quebec CaribouRed Rose tea
A&W double teenburger (or any A&W for that matter)
at one time, Clamato (although it IS making headway in USA)
Funny we DON'T have Canadian Bacon....
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re: westaust
I'm working on the poutine issue in Michigan; have spoken to the owner/managers of a Mom-and-Pop place in the nearest town of any size and strongly encouraged them to add it to their menu and be a truly unique place to eat! I promised to return with a couple of recipes for The Real Thing (Quebec style) and they were interested. Hoping, hoping, hoping...
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re: OldGrayWolf
i would really like to know when poutine caught on in Québec and then in the rest of Canada - the closest thing to it was chips with gravy in the London, Ont. of the 60's and 70's, and I spent a lot of time in Laval with friends in the late 60's-early 70's and never saw it there either. Was in and out of Canada (in Toronto as well as London, and in Montréal and QC) and ate in all levels of restaurants until 2003 when my father died. It kills me when Americans talk about it as if it were a traditional Canadian delicacy.
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re: porker
I'd say mid to late eighties is when it took off province-wide. Before that I was eating "patate sauce" (fries and gravy) and had never heard of poutine. I don't think anyone west of Cornwall had ever seen one until a few years ago. Now it's become a national craze with everyone claiming it's some sort of quintessential Canadian dish, which, of course, is just a load of hogwash.
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re: porker
It's only memorable because it was an unusual find at the time, though not a great example (too much sauce).
AFAIK the place had no Quebec connection, but can't say for sure. The only other detail I remember is that it was a London double-decker bus converted into a chip wagon.
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re: im_nomad
Quebecois poutine has no relation to Acadian poutine appart from its name and the use of potatoes. It is said to have originated in the Bois-Francs region of Quebec, with several people claiming inventorship. The oldest account of poutine, although it was only fries and curds without sauce, dates from 1957.
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re: buttertart
O, no!!! Yer killin' me....not a traditional Canadian delicacy?! I have to rethink my entire Eastern Townships experiences...Beebe, Stanstead, Cedarville...OMG, does that mean that I'm just fooling myself if I think I have to drive over/up to Coaticook to the cheese-curd factory to get The Real Thing and then learn that my taste buds have been deceived? So, are you telling us that poutine is younger than Vernors? My world has been knocked off its axis. Sniff....
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re: OldGrayWolf
The biggest problem might be the cheese curds but the New Era dairy in New Era does not treat their cows with BgHt and occasionally does not use colouring in their cheese curds which are very good. Above all else Michigan potatoes do make excellent fries which the potatoes from Idaho do not. I know it is not genuine but I must admit to preferring Ontario or Michigan gravy albeit my homemade stuff is what I consider de riguer but I think Michigan is where I would introduce poutine. There is still a lot of people of French Canadian origin in the New Era area.
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re: Midknight
It's Canadian in the US the same way as french fries are simply pommes frites until they leave France. And what Americans call simply bacon becomes streaky bacon when it goes to England, to distinguish it from back bacon and a dozen other types. No need for a qualifier when it's the local standard product.
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re: Seattlerain
Not exactly - with the caveat that I haven't bought any U.S. Red Rose in over a year. There is a Red Rose brand sold almost everywhere but, at least here in NC, the Red Rose is not at all the same, and (to me) no where near as good, as the Red Rose relatives send to me from Canada. The taste is completely different (along with the size of the tea bags).
5Bedit] Whoops - didn't see all the earlier responses covering the same ground. My apologies.
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re: im_nomad
One of my first trips with the wife was back in the 80's to the Sunshine State. I asked for a Bloody Caesar in a bar and the waitress asked what it was.
"Like a bloody mary, 'cept with clamato instead of tomato juice", I replied.
"Whats cluhMAYto?" she asks.
"Its tomato juice with clam juice" I says.
She brightened up, "Oh, yeah we have that, we can make it!"
They made their own "clamato" by mixing pure clam liquor (shellfish juice) with tomato juice and made my drink....it was strange.
So I say to my future wife, "We should distribute clamato around here and make a killing"
Well, 30 years later, clamato is widely available in most states, yet the Bloody Caesar is still very uncommon....-
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re: porker
Considering all the press about hatred between these two fan bases, we seem to have no problems and the business is great for the bar. I worked 500 feet from the entrance to the Garden until last year. Habs fans are awesome. We get requests for the Bloody Caesar and the bartenders know you are Canadian. Still not enough to order any, but frequent enough to be a minor inside joke. "hey, had 2 requests for bloody caesars today. Montreal must be in town"
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re: KilgoreTrout
Hey, it might be a marketing gimmick: "We serve Caesars" or "Best Caesars in Town" with a sign like this
http://talesblog.com/wp-content/uploa...
In Canada, Pepsi has the rights to distribute the concentrate for the bar gun, but obviously you don't have the demand - start off with a case of the single serve cans...-
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re: KilgoreTrout
Like I mentioned, distributed by pepsi along with their syrups, gas, etc. Like gun OJ, its a concentrate which gets mixed with water at the gun. Tune it up just right, and your bloody caesar is better than mixed with the can clamato (similar to a finely tuned coke dispenser i guess).
It is a brunch or daytime drink - like a bloody mary, its a pretty good first or second drink on the day after (making the hair of the dog a touch more palatable...). Some people will drink it all night, but me, I'd get too full after 2 or 3.
6 degrees of the Bruins/Habs/Clamato thing: was at a rock concert at Montreal's Bell Center (newish home of the Habs since the Forum was re-done into a shopping complex) and ordered drinks for the gang: 2 Molson, 2 shots, and a caesar. So the bartender, in his Frenglish repeats the order: "2 bieres, 2 shot, and a soup" - I thought that was amusing! -
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re: bytepusher
Hey all, thanks for the info. If you ever make it to Boston, shoot me an email chefjosh@rocketmail.com I'll buy you a Bloody Caesar or 3. I was speaking to my bar manager about this. He is originally from deep upstate New York. He knew exactly what I was talking about. He actually prefers it to the traditional Bloody Mary mix. So we will have it in the house next week. Do we need to mention it as an allergy issue? Seems like no matter how hard it gets processed it would still be shellfish allergy dangerous.
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re: porker
I wonder if that is the issue. Mexico and Canada both enjoy tomato and clam combos with booze, but not Lawsuit Nation here. It seems like a stretch but not out of the realm of possibility. I'm going to have one in a day or two when the case of Clamato we ordered arrives. I'll report back. Any interesting twists to the Caesar I should know about? Brunch places in the states can get crazy with the Marys to stand out. Like chipotle infused vodka or adding cocktail shrimp.
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re: KilgoreTrout
The canonical Bloody Caesar is spiced like a Mary with Tabasco and Worcestershire served in a glass rimmed with seasoned salt and garnished with a celery stalk (preferably with a leaf or two still attached) and a lemon wedge.
Grated horseradish, either in the drink or on the rim is a common addition. But as petek noted, pretty much anything you could do to a Mary will work here. The big deal here lately has been bacon infused vodka.
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you can find Nanaimo bars here and there in the states. At least in the border states that I've lived in. They're available in a number of grocery stores here in Western Washington and I was also able to find them at a couple of stores in Michigan when i lived in Grand Rapids.
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Do Kinder Eggs qualify as a food? I guess so, since technically the chocolate-ish shells are edible. These have not only the distinction of only being available in Canada, but also of being illegal to bring into the US due to the toys inside being potential choking hazards for small children. Border guards will actually confiscate them on sight. Yet, if you open the egg in Canada and eat the chocolate, you can then bring the small toy itself over the border without hassle. One of the oddities of our modern world.
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re: paulj
Purity anything was close to being not available anywhere there close to Christmas. They were on strike. My mother had me looking everywhere for Purity hard bread. Ended up making her own from scratch, but they are back to producing now. mmm Jam Jams.
I'll add to the list, buckets of salt beef, cans of corn on the cob (the full cobs, not the minis that go in salads and stir fries)
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re: im_nomad
I got a got a couple of bags of hard bread via a backpacking shop 10 years ago, and still have part of one in the pantry. I was mainly curious how it compared with pilot bread.
In the Seattle area I am still able to buy the Sailor Boy brand of pilot bread, which remains a staple in the Alaska bush. On vacation in BC I occasionally found Barge and Flaky pilot bread (mainly in coastal towns). That seemed to disappear, though last I heard Purity is making those in addition to their hard bread.
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Not a food per se but a unique type of food outlet: bulk food stores. I was up visiting my son in Toronto last weekend and he pointed out that these are common in Canada but unheard-of in the US, stores where all sorts of things, from grains and spices to cereals and candies are sold loose in bulk, allowing you to take just as much or as little as you want to buy. Places like Whole Foods have small bulk departments here, but these stores are wall-to-wall bulk bins. I was impressed.
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How come every time this topic comes up all anyone mentions is crap snack and fast foods
How about smoked arctic char, Mipkuzola, Fiddleheads (ok not strictly only in Canada but close enough), BC Spot Prawns
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Saw smarties in Switzerland last week......funny as I brought some for family only to see they had them.
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re: buttertart
If you're ever in Toronto, please do try the ones at Flaky Tart. They look enormous, but they are actually quite normal sized, but with an extra large "edge" on the crust. She makes them beautifully runny, and you break off some of the fabulous, flaky crust and dip it into the center. It's like butter tart fondue.
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re: buttertart
Wunderbar is from the UK, but ti's known there as Starbar.
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re: buttertart
Since the founders sold Laura Secord to Rowntree in the 60's there's been nothing particularly uniquely Canadian about Laura Secord other than the name, and for most of the last 50 years the company has been owned by a selection of UK, European and American companies before finally being re-Canadianized a few years ago by a company in Quebec associated with Biscuits Leclerc. The products they sell are essentially the same chocolate confections and ice creams sold in other markets by other companies, in the US there's even a company that looks and feels just like Laura Secord (the name escapes me, it's also a woman's name, a first lady I think)
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re: buttertart
The O'Connor family sold LS to the Ault Foods division of Labatt's in 1969 which in turn sold it to Rowntree in 1983 (my error above, i had forgotten about the Labatt's period) Rowntree was then acquired by Nestle in 1988. Nestle sold LS in 1999 to an American company Archibald Candy which also operated the Fannie May and Fanny Farmer stores (so for a while they were in fact the same company) then in 2004 it was sold to a consortium of private equity firms, it was sold again in 2010 to the a company controlled by the Leclerc brothers of Quebec CIty.
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re: tastesgoodwhatisit
I think Vernors is or was invented in the US. When I was a child and we visited family in Detroit we had two stops there, the Vernors factory where we stocked up for home and the potato chip factory where we bought large tin tubs of the yummiest chips (in memory) ever.
Back in thoses days you could not get Vernors in Toronto.
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re: srobes
Vernors ginger ale (only the very best ginger soft drink on Earth) is wonderful, but not Canadian. It was originated by James Vernor (a pharmacist from the Detroit, Michigan, area) quite by accident; he started a batch of ginger ale, had it in the oak barrels, then went off to the American civil war. When he returned, voila, the wonderful "flavor-aged (4) years in oak" soft drink that is available in only a few places in the US (but hey, I'm really glad to know it's available in Canada, my favorite 'get away to' spot on Earth). We share the Great Lakes, so it's only right we also share a love of Vernors!
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re: buttertart
Eh, buttertart; we transport it to family and friends in New Hampshire by the case. You should see the looks we get from BPAs at Customs...they no longer question it, though. And yes, we also took along stock for my brother when he lived in Brooklyn four years. The "Boston Cooler" is our traditional family-reunion drink/dessert. (Vernors w/Briar's vanilla ice cream float). You can tell how close a family friend someone is if they're from Somewhere Else but are hooked on Vernors...
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re: buttertart
We got it in CA when I lived there. My parents were from Detroit, and Warren, so I grew up with Vernors in the house. My aunt, and uncle had it delivered to England via submarine when he was in the Air Force. I believe it was his brother that was in the Navy. Good stuff, but alas it is no longer aged in oak, but oak flavored. It is probably stirred with an oak spoon, or poured over oak planks now =)
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re: OldGrayWolf
Sherbrooke Quebec is a lot closer to New Hampshire than Michigan. Give Bull's Head ginger ale a try I think it compares favourably with Vernors. In fact Sherbrooke is closer to New Hampshire than it is to Montreal. I was brought up on dry Ginger Ale but my Michigan raised wife converted me to the traditional Vernors and Bulls Head ginger ale.
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re: srobes
Several American brands (my favorites are Herr's, Old Dutch and Wachusett, in that order) have ketchup chips. They're more common in the northeast and upper midwest, so yes, Canada-adjacent but not exclusively Canadian.
Unfortunately, we can't get an All-Dressed chip down here.
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