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May 26, 2011 01:31 PM

Le Bernardin or Toxqueville this weekend?

Have reservations at both. Before I read some reviews on here I would have said LB hands down, but many complain of icy service.

1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

Le Bernardin
155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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  1. For me, LB hands down. Yes, service is reserved, which can be perceived as either icy or correct, depending on your point of view. In my own experience, I've always found the staff to be quite friendly and engaging, even though I am not one of their regulars.

    But Tocqueville is nice too, though not as polished and rarefied as LB. It would depend on whether you want seafood or a broader menu.

    1. Both are wonderful. It all depends upon what you are looking for. Very different. Tocqueville is not so formal. Nor so expensive.

      1. I had one of the best 2 or 3 meals I have had in four years dining in New York at LB (see ). That would be my choice hands down.

        1. Without a moment's hesitation, Tocqueville. Delicious cuisine; pleasant, professional service; and an elegant space that is one of the most beautiful in the city.

          I have to disagree with Riverman that icy can be interpreted as correct. Many restaurants, including Tocqueville, provide correct service that is not icy. Le Bernardin's service is correct without even a scintilla of warmth, and the reception desk is the most unwelcoming I've ever come across. Also, the space has never held any charm for me. It will be interesting to see what it will be like after the refurbishment in August.

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          1. re: RGR

            I found their service to be warm, inviting, and courteous without overbearing.

            1. re: RGR

              RGR, I have a reservation at Tocqueville on Tuesday evening. Any recommendations for an omnivore? Thanks.

              1. re: thelobster

                We haven't been to Tocqueville recently, so I can't speak about dishes on the current menu with one exception. Seared Diver Scallops and Foie Gras is a signature and has been on the menu since they opened. It's fabulous!

                Enjoy your dinner and please report back.


            2. Sometimes I make decisions like this based on what I'm up for -- what I call restaurant research (e.g., how do *I* think about a place there's disagreement about -- need to be up for a good mean/service or not as "interesting") or do I want to just have a particular type of experience (maybe go to a place I've been or one where consistency of opinion exists -- though I certainly have disagreed with consistent opinions as well)