5 napkin & beer crawl combo ?

[willowan]

Hey all

In town next week and headed to 5 Napkin burger, though staying in Murray Hill area ( Shelburne hotel on Lexington )

Have looked at posts here to try to sort out a decent bar crawl/loop for pre and post 5 napkin, and come up with the following

1. Jimmy's Corner Bar
2. St Andrews ( google maps say this is 140W 46th st but seen other refs to Times Sq ? )
3. 5 Napkin burger
4.Rudy's ( ? not sure about this )
5. Pony Bar
6. Stout
7. Rattle N Hum
8. Gingerman

So, what have I missed, or which of these should I miss out on ?
Are any of these places stand outs ? Or do any stand out as over priced ?

If its relevant we are two English blokes in our early 40's, so if any of these places are embarrassingly young crowds, or just embarrassing crowds, please let us know.

Also. any good places to get decent well priced wheat beers and great food ?

Thanks for any advice you can give.

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Jimmy's Corner
140 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

[willowan]

Hello ?

Come on New York hounds - you are replying to my breakfast questions, why not my beer question ?!

After all, which is more important ............?

[Alan Henderson]

I'm not a big fan of St. Andrews, or Gingerman. Stout is pretty much run of the mill. Rattle N Hum has a good selection but is pretty packed and loud any time that I've been. Pony has only American craft brews and has good prices, Jimmy's is fine for the area but not really destination worthy as far as beer goes. Rudy's may be worth stopping by for one beer as a remnant of what Hell's Kitchen once was if you are on your way to/from Pony.

I would recommend going a little out of your way and hitting up the Blind Tiger and Jimmy's No. 43 for interesting beer and very good food. Especially if you can go to the Tiger for lunch when it is not quite so busy.

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Blind Tiger
281 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

Stout NYC
133 W 33rd St, New York, NY 10001

Jimmy's No. 43
43 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

Ginger Man
11 E 36th St, New York, NY 10016

St. Andrews
140 W 46th St, New York, NY 10036

Rudy's Bar & Grill
627 9th Ave, New York, NY 10036

Rattle 'n' Hum
14 E 33rd St, New York, NY 10016

Pony Bar
637 10th Ave, New York, NY 10036

[willowan]

Hey, thanks for replying !

What is it you don't like about St Andrews and Gingerman , and is Stout run of the mill beer wise, ambience wise, or both ?

Going to Jimmy's as have been before and my companion hasn't and likes boxing !

Any particular best brews at Pony ?

Down by Jimmy's 43 I also have

-Lorely,
- DBA,
- Burp Castle
- Spitzers castle

on my provisional list

Any thoughts ? Any others nearby ?

Thanks again !

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Burp Castle
41 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003

[MVNYC]

I would start at the Blind Tiger and make my way east. You can then hit up Jimmy's 43, DBA, Hop Devil Grill and Spitzer's. You can then hop on the 6 Train to 33rd st for a night cap at Rattle N Hum when it is a little more low key.

I would agree with Alan, I don't really like St Andrew's or Gingerman. St Andrews is just common European beers, nothing out of the ordinary. Gingerman is fairly douchey. They have a very large selection but they don't always have something that out of the ordinary.

In regards to beer make sure youo try any Captain Lawrence beers you see. This is a great local brewery who does not distribute much outside the area. Sixpoint is another.

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Spitzer's Corner
101 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

Blind Tiger
281 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

Hop Devil Grill
129 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10009

d.b.a.
41 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

[Alan Henderson]

Stout is just a big version of the Irish pubs that you find everywhere in Manhattan, it was a nice addition to a neighborhood that had very little before, but it is mainly an after-work scene that you can find pretty much anywhere, if you want a good NYC irish I'd go to Molly's Shebeen over by where you are staying (I'd take their burger over 5 Napkin as well.) Gingerman is populated overwhelmingly by people that I don't have much interest in drinking beer with and I would say that MVNYC's characterization is pretty spot on. Pony changes their selection so frequently that I would not know what to recommend, but they always update it on their website.

Agree 100% on dba no food there, Spitzer's is a pretty young crowd I have not been there often, Lorely is not my favorite, if you want German Zum Schneider would be my choice although a bit out of the way being on Ave. B. Burp Castle is interesting, and next door to Jimmy's 43.

Near your hotel is Waterfront Ale House which generally has a nice beer selection and has quite good food as well.

Only one stop into BKLYN on the L train you will find a lot of good beer places as well if you have a little time it is well worth it (that can be discussed on the Outer Boroughs board if you like).

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Molly's
287 3rd Ave, New York, NY 10010

Zum Schneider
107 Ave C, New York, NY 10009

Loreley
7 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

Waterfront Ale House
540 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10016

Burp Castle
41 E 7th St, New York, NY 10003