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Best ham, roast beef, meatloaf, turkey or roast chicken sandwiches in the Bay Area

rworange May 22, 2011 05:15 PM

Sorry, I have never asked the same question in two separate posts, but my first post threw people off.

Surely somewhere in the Bay Area there must be good versions of these sandwiches.

Am I going to have to go to Safeway for a roast beef sandwich?

Forget everything else I said. Focus on the meat. Where can I get good sandwiches with these roast meats. I'll sort out the rest.

Now I'm depressed. For months now I've been dreaming about sandwiches and now coming up with nothing.

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    margieco RE: rworange May 22, 2011 05:18 PM

    Oops, replied to your other post. I still stand by just for you for the turkey sandwich (with the excellent sliced bread). Weekdays only (they don't do all their sandwiches on weekends) and only solves your turkey needs.

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      rworange RE: margieco May 22, 2011 05:26 PM

      Thanks. Mr and Mrs. Miscellaneous is a place I wanted to try.

      Let me see if I an tweak another poster for ideas with this question ... Must I go to Fenton's for a sandwich?

    2. Sarah RE: rworange May 22, 2011 05:23 PM

      OK -- go to RoastHaus in Northgate 1 in Terra Linda, just north of Marin civic Center. They have all of the above mentioned meat and hand carve. Your choice of bread, condiments, etc. That and a jello salad -- ah, America!

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        rworange RE: Sarah May 22, 2011 05:28 PM

        I've had a horrible experience at RoastHaus. Dry bad bread, with meh meat, put together by indifferent teens. On paper it sounds good. In reality, no.

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          Sarah RE: rworange May 22, 2011 05:33 PM

          They did go through an awful period a while back -- they're back on track -- was served by adults who knew what they were doing a few weeks ago. Hope you find your dream sandwich!!

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            rworange RE: Sarah May 22, 2011 05:41 PM

            Good to hear an uphill report on them. I'll keep them in mind.

            Is Gregoire in the East Bay still open? I trried linking to the website to see if they might have a qualifying sandwich this month and got a dead link.

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              abstractpoet RE: rworange May 22, 2011 05:56 PM

              Still open, still a decent lunch option (and still way overpriced for dinner). They've had an excellent turkey galantine sandwich on the menu in the past, but it's more of a fall/winter thing and the meat resembles more of cold cut than what you're looking for.

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                rworange RE: abstractpoet May 22, 2011 06:12 PM

                Thanks. Maybe they are changing the menu for the week. Not to keep the other thread going, but yes, Ike's Place is what I was thinking. Too bad it isn't great.

                Ok, guys ... forced to turn to yelp. Has anyone tried Jersey's?


                "Eric make, thus far, the best roast beef sandwich I've had. They make the roast beef themselves! ,,, Eric's is home roasted, perfectly cooked on the outside and rare on the inside. Juicy and flavorful! ... All there is to know is that Eric takes hours to make his roast beef so it's worth every penny.

                On top of their specialty roast beef sandwich, they also make a delicious pastrami sandwich ... All sammies are thrown onto hot baked bread."

                True or just a yelp?

                I realize the roast beef is on a roll, but they do mention sliced rye and sourdough ... sourdough ... sigh ... for other sandwiches so I'm sure they'd sub

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                drewskiSF RE: rworange May 24, 2011 10:13 AM

                here's Gregoire's current lunch menu

        2. rworange RE: rworange May 22, 2011 06:43 PM

          OK, on the meatloaf front ... Fatted Calf?

          I was hesitant when I saw that ... maybe too frou, frou and not classic enough. However, some positive posts on Chowhound, though no detail anad this at least looks in the ballpark

          "Fatted Calf's meatloaf sandwich is neither so kitschy-homey that it belongs in an Amy Sedaris cookbook, nor too gentrified to take over to the park, eat it hunched over your butcher-paper-covered lap, shooing away the insistent sparrows that menace your feet as they dart in to steal crumbs"

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            ernie in berkeley RE: rworange May 22, 2011 06:47 PM

            Bette' s To Go has good meatloaf. Their roast beef and their ham is also good quality. But from the tone of this discussion, you'll probably want them to double the meat on the last two. Their turkey can be a little dry, but so can all turkey.

            And don't write off the hofbraus. I had a delightful roast beef plate at the one in Emeryville Public Market, of all places, and I suspect the bread and dressings are good as well. Brennan's too.

            1807 4th St, Berkeley, CA 94710

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              rworange RE: ernie in berkeley May 22, 2011 07:14 PM

              Yeah, Bette's might do it for me. I've never had a sandwich there. The vibe might be nice.

              Yah know, I figured out what is putting me off hauf braus ... the German origin. Too much German in Guatemala. Which was a good thing ... no hauf braus though... but I need to get away from that right now. I need 100 percent American ... I'd rather err on the side of New American. I'd actually rather go to Mel's Diner. I guess they could use an update report. But Bette's sounds better

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                rworange RE: ernie in berkeley Jun 10, 2011 02:26 PM

                Thanks ernie,

                So far this turned out to be the best suggestion for me. Here's my report.

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                  rworange RE: rworange Jun 15, 2011 05:51 PM

                  Thanks all, I've finished my sandwich spree and am moving on to produce and Farmers Markets. I've sufficiently scratched the sandwich itch.

                  There are a lot of great suggestions in this thread I still have to try and will get to them when I'm in those areas.

                  Out of what I've tried in the last two weeks, Bette's was the winner. (link in previous reply). While it was a meatloaf platter, it was what I was looking for in meatloaf.

                  I've mentioned the others briefly in this thread, but here are the full reports in order of preference ... but they were all good

                  Breakfast sandwich on sourdough
                  Vallejo: Java Jax – House-roasted coffee, sandwiches, Chicago-style hot dogs and live music

                  Turkey sandwich with stuffing and cranberry sauce / house-roast beef sandwich
                  Petaluma: Lombardi’s Deli and BBQ

                  Meatloaf platter
                  EL Cerrito:Fatapple’s

                  Turkey sandwich
                  Vallejo, CA: Dillon Bread Company – If people have to choose between freedom and sandwiches, they will take sandwiches

                  Turkey sandwich
                  El Sobrante, CA: Cafe Soleil

                  Not to mention the fact I've eaten sandwiches at home for almost ever meal since I've returned. I'm ready to move on ... thanks again

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                margieco RE: rworange May 22, 2011 07:03 PM

                I love Sentinel's meatloaf sandwich (again, maybe not classic enough). (haven't had fatted calf's to compare.)

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                  Robert Lauriston RE: rworange May 23, 2011 08:39 AM

                  Fatted Calf might work. I'm not sure what bread they use but everything they sell is really good.

                  Fatted Calf
                  320 Fell St, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                    pane RE: Robert Lauriston May 24, 2011 07:16 AM

                    Della Fattoria on all of their sandwiches.

                    Della Fattoria
                    141 Petaluma Blvd N, Petaluma, CA 94952

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                      Robert Lauriston RE: pane May 24, 2011 08:10 AM

                      Della Fattoria is great, but I don't think they have the kind of simple meat sandwiches requested. I had one of the best chicken salad sandwiches ever there.


                      Della Fattoria
                      141 Petaluma Blvd N, Petaluma, CA 94952

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                        rworange RE: Robert Lauriston May 24, 2011 08:33 AM

                        Somewhere in this or another post, I looked at the DF menu and they had a few simple sandwiches and it is high on my list right now. There's another deli next door that might do it, so it is a two for one shot.

                        Actually, I think DF might fit the bill very nice. I wasn't much of a fan of the cafe because it was a little too simple for my tastes when I was in the area. Nicely done stuff, but there wasn't a lot of pizzaz there (speaking cafe-wise).

                        But what I'm looking for now ... yeah ... this might do it. Top notch ingredients, a llittle frou. Then I'll head over to Fremont Diner for some salad. Nice little excursion in that area. Maybe hit some of the great coffee places in Sebastopol on route.

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                          Robert Lauriston RE: rworange May 24, 2011 08:57 AM

                          You can't beat Della Fattoria for sliced bread. They make a great Reuben.

                          Della Fattoria
                          141 Petaluma Blvd N, Petaluma, CA 94952

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                  California Sunshine RE: rworange May 22, 2011 07:00 PM

                  I know, Capitola isn't quite in the Bay area, but consider driving down to Gayle's and pick up their rare tri-tip sandwich, complete with horseradish/mayo dressing, carmelized onions, lettuce, on their house-baked onion roll. Pick a beach (Sunset is good) where you can watch dolphins jumping and enjoy. Welcome back.

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                    rworange RE: California Sunshine May 22, 2011 07:06 PM

                    I always meant to try Gayle's. Yeah, tri tip would work There was some sort of tri-tip vendor at the Old Oakland Farers market Will have to check if they are still there.

                    We have dolphins in SF?

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                      escargot3 RE: rworange May 23, 2011 09:41 AM

                      Gayle's is really lovely, tho I haven;t had a tri tip sandwich there.

                      And yes, there are often dolphins seen from the Santa Cruz beaches.

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                    ML8000 RE: rworange May 22, 2011 07:17 PM

                    What exactly are you looking for...a classic slice bread, RB, etc.? Or will a semi-hot sandwich?

                    I'd try Tommy's Joynt or Lee's for a fresh roast turkey sandwich. Tommy's RB is good.

                    For either, try Little Luca's in South SF. Many variations available.

                    Tommy's Joynt
                    1101 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94109

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                      rworange RE: ML8000 May 22, 2011 07:29 PM

                      Ok, I've clarified and nixed Hauf Braus. No italian and I am not a fan of Little Luca's anyway. Hmmm ... but what is that other joint in South SF for sandwiches. That would be near the airport.

                      Bread and meat. Heat is optional, but no gravy covered sandwich.

                      Why is this hard? I thought people would jump in with tons of ideas. Has the Bay Area lost the ability to appreciate the simple sandwich or even understand what it is? Don't people eat sandwiches anymore?

                      Ok, sandwiches like Marie Callendar's serves. That is starting tto sound like a great option. They have meatloaf. They have ham. I'll check out Applebee's while I'm at it. What is more American than chain like those? Though I was hoping for better.

                      Sorry for the crankfest, but I've been looking forward to a sandwich for months now ... and living in a world where I only half understand people and they only half understand me. Roast beef sandwich. Ham sandwich. Turkey sandwich. Chicken sandwich. Meatloaf sandwich. Really, do those require details I tried details and that didn't work out. I just tried simple. Man, now I've freaked I've lost the ability to communicate in English. I need to come home and when I get home I need a sandwich.

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                        Ruth Lafler RE: rworange May 22, 2011 08:10 PM

                        I'm hung up on the bread issue. Very few places I know of use good quality sandwich bread. I can't imagine that a place that makes frou-frou sandwiches wouldn't make you a simple one. Here's a recent thread on East Bay sandwiches: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/784427

                        How about Darby Dan's?

                        Darby Dan's
                        733 Airport Blvd, South San Francisco, CA 94080

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                          rworange RE: Ruth Lafler May 22, 2011 08:20 PM

                          Yeah, Darby Dan's. That's the place I was trying to remember.

                          That's why I pared down my request. I can deal with the frou and have it removed if the good basic ingredents are there. Like if anyone has any thougts on Jersey's I can have them pare down some of the extras.

                          I just don't want something like duck meatloaf with wasabi on a baguette grilled with cilantro butter ... well, you get the idea. I have wasabi on the brain. Had fig wasabi ice cream yesterday. It was actually quite good.

                          Thanks for the link.

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                          512window RE: rworange May 23, 2011 11:53 AM

                          For one item only, Jan's Deli on Alma St. in Menlo Park, across from the train station. They roast their own turkeys daily.

                          roast turkey on dutch crunch roll

                          Jan's Deli
                          1004 Alma St, Menlo Park, CA 94025

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                            rworange RE: 512window May 23, 2011 12:34 PM

                            You know, at this point even though I said sliced bread, everyone has me craving a Ductch crunch roll. Thanks for the suggestion.

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                              512window RE: rworange May 23, 2011 05:11 PM

                              Jan's also has very good Dutch crunch rolls.

                      2. mariacarmen RE: rworange May 22, 2011 08:22 PM

                        I like Rhea's: http://sanfrancisco.menupages.com/res... They have roast beef and ham and other meats. They list the breads, which seem to be rolls, but they also list sliced bread on some of the sandwich options. They can make it as frou-frou as you want or not. I don't drink coffee but you could always take your sandwich to Muddy Waters near 16th (people seem to like their coffee?), or in the other direction, I can't remember the name, between 21st and 22nd, there's a coffee place people seem to flock to. Next door to the video store.

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                          Windy RE: mariacarmen May 30, 2011 09:34 AM

                          Do they have rare roast beef that isn't Boar's Head?

                          This has been my issue with finding roast beef in the Bay Area: no one actually roasts beef. At least a few places roast turkeys.

                          I've ended up buying rare tri tip from the deli at Whole Foods and making steak sandwiches, which isn't the same thing but is better than the gray shiny stuff that passes for roast beef.

                          And RW, for a plain turkey sandwich, hard to do better and cheaper than Lee's in the FInancial District. They'll put whatever you do or don't want on it. I usually get a Dutch crunch roll (and cranberry sauce). The Arguello Market turkey listed below is great.

                          Ham I think will depend on what style of ham you like. But easier at a deli counter to buy by the pound.

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                            mariacarmen RE: Windy May 30, 2011 10:47 AM

                            i've only eaten their specialty sandwiches, so I'm not sure. I agree, I've never even had a "real" roast beef sandwich until i roasted my own rare roast beef. I never got why people liked roast beef sandwiches.

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                              drewskiSF RE: Windy May 30, 2011 06:44 PM

                              Tommy's Joynt roasts their own beef, probably some of the other Hof-brau type spots like Brennan's in Berkeley . . . but Hof-brau's were nixed by the OP.

                              Tommy's Joynt
                              1101 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA 94109

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                            walker RE: rworange May 22, 2011 08:28 PM

                            Have you been to Fredy's on La Playa near Safeway in SF? He closes at 6pm, earlier on Sundays. He has a rotiserie and some of the time has turkey breast and roast beef cooked on that. Fresh baked sourdough rolls or other bread, if you prefer. On Wed only, he has a delicious pulled pork sandwich -- sometimes runs out but you can call in and he'll save one for you. 415 221 2031

                            What about Arguello Market, Arguello near Fulton? He goes through about 7 turkeys a day -- you can get white or dark meat. They often run out after 1 or 2 pm, then they cook more and it's available dinner time. (You can call and they, too, will save you some.) You can buy the sliced turkey meat and do it yourself, too.

                            Nice to have you back. Other than sandwiches, what were you dying to eat first on your return?

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                              rworange RE: walker May 22, 2011 08:40 PM

                              Its been a long time since I've been to Fredy's. I didn't realie they were more than Italian. That reminds me of some sandwich joint near Ghiradelli that I've been meaning to check out. It was mentioned on yelp a while back and I've been keeping it in the back of my mind. It is just a small market, but the sandwiches are supposed to be good. I'll have to find my notes on that.

                              >>> Other than sandwiches, what were you dying to eat first on your return

                              Water from a tap

                              Good coffee ... on every corner and not a special trip


                              Salad ... I intend to live on salad a few months.

                              Tomatoes ... any veggie I don't have to worry about washing. without picking up an 'amoeba'

                              Potatoes ... except fries ... mashed, baked, home fries, hash browns, scalloped, steamed, etc, etc

                              Cherries, peaches, strawberries and any heirloom obscure stone fruit.

                              I'lll make a pilgrimage on my knees to CJ Olson ... though at this late date, I found a bartender that is into creative fruit cocktails She found some tiny cherries I never knew existed she'll be turning into a cocktail soon. Had a great fresh plum cocktail yesterday named in honer of the end of the world that didn't happen.

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                              macadam RE: rworange May 22, 2011 08:34 PM

                              Haven't been, but sounds like the ultimate sandwich shop. Calabria Brothers. Sounds similar to Armanino Bros that was on San Bruno Ave. Nothing like a good deli sandwich. http://www.thrillist.com/potrero-hill...

                              Calabria Brothers
                              2249 17th St, San Francisco, CA 94101

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                                srr RE: rworange May 22, 2011 08:53 PM

                                When I want a straight-up (California style, not NY style) deli sandwich I go to Cal-Mart on California or Mollie Stone's in Diamond Heights. FYI the Mollie Stone's on California and Fillmore doesn't have sandwiches that are as good. Cal-mart is my first choice. Good meats and lots of it, OK bread, good fixins. All for about $5.99

                                Mollie Stone's
                                851 Cherry Ave # 22, San Bruno, CA

                                3585 California St, San Francisco, CA 94118

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                                  betterbeheaven RE: rworange May 22, 2011 09:06 PM

                                  I like the Lunch Box in Uptown Oakland a lot. It's basic stuff, a typical lunch deli type of place, but the ingredients are pretty good quality.


                                  Lunch Box
                                  1720 Franklin St, Oakland, CA 94612

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                                    ML8000 RE: rworange May 22, 2011 09:30 PM

                                    I'd try Ratto's in Old Oakland. Despite being an "Italian" deli, they'll make the sandwich how you want it and carry decent sliced sandwich bread.

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                                      rworange RE: ML8000 May 22, 2011 09:42 PM

                                      OK, thanks. When I was thinking of the farmers market tri-tip, I kept thinking there was a sandwich shop in the area. Ratto's ... that's it. I probably won't go there, but at least I can dust it out of my mind.

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                                        ML8000 RE: rworange May 22, 2011 10:41 PM

                                        When you go to Berkeley Bowl, get a made to order RB sandwich, your choice of RB (I'd get the housemade) and decent bread and produce. Sub in your many choices of turkey, ham, etc. and the choices are yours. In SF I'd go to Ted's Market.

                                        Berkeley Bowl
                                        2020 Oregon St, Berkeley, CA 94703

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                                          JasmineG RE: ML8000 May 22, 2011 11:01 PM

                                          Oh, good call, the Berkeley Bowl sandwiches at the deli are surprisingly great.

                                          Berkeley Bowl
                                          2020 Oregon St, Berkeley, CA 94703

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                                            rworange RE: JasmineG May 22, 2011 11:32 PM

                                            Yeah, Berkeley Bowl is going to be one of my first stops. Will check out the sandwiches.

                                            Ted's may be the yelp place near Ghiradelli that I was thinking about.

                                            Berkeley Bowl
                                            2020 Oregon St, Berkeley, CA 94703

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                                              poser RE: rworange May 23, 2011 04:59 AM

                                              Ted's is on Howard between 11th and 12th. Not the place you are thinking about.

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                                      ola RE: rworange May 22, 2011 09:46 PM

                                      Morucci's Si Mangia Bene
                                      1218 Boulevard Way
                                      Walnut Creek, CA 94595
                                      (925) 939-2426

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                                        abstractpoet RE: rworange May 22, 2011 10:14 PM

                                        Kefa Coffee has a roast beef sandwich on their menu that you might give a try. I'm sure they're buying the actual roast beef from somewhere else, and I don't know if it's a hot sandwich, but my experience with Kefa (with their breakfast sandwiches and their fabulous egg salad sandwich) is that they know how to put together a good sandwich. But I can't vouch for this particular one. Anyway, they have very good drip coffee (which you mentioned in the other thread) - probably my favorite of the non- "3rd wave" options in the East Bay.

                                        For a meatloaf sandwich, like I mentioned in the other thread, I really like Uncle Dougie's. But you don't want Itaiian ... anyway, it'd still be a good one for you to try some other time.

                                        Does Taylor ham qualify as a type of ham that you'd like to eat right now? If so, Scolari's Good Eats, in Alameda, makes a wicked good Taylor ham, egg, and cheese sandwich. It's a breakfast sandwich, technically, but I've seen it on the menu at various times of day - you can call ahead to see if it's available. (I bet Scolari's would do a good meatloaf or roast beef sandwich too, but they aren't regular menu items - there's usually one or two different sandwiches on the specials board).

                                        Kefa Coffee
                                        422 29th Ave, Oakland, CA 94601

                                        1303 Park St, Alameda, CA 94501

                                        Uncle Dougie's
                                        362 17th St, Oakland, CA 94612

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                                        1. re: abstractpoet
                                          rworange RE: abstractpoet May 22, 2011 10:22 PM

                                          Cool about the Taylor ham sandwich. Not what I want as a first bite, but I haven't tried that yet, so after I satisfy my cravings for foods I'm missing, I will head over there.

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                                            abstractpoet RE: abstractpoet May 22, 2011 11:35 PM

                                            Oh, and I forgot that Rico's Diner used to do a great meatloaf sandwich that would fit your criteria quite well. HOWEVER, within the past 6 months or so, there appears to have been a change in ownership and several downhill reports.

                                            It's a shame - anyway, I wouldn't risk one of your first bites on it, but I'm curious myself to hear if anyone has been within the past month or so.

                                            Rico's Diner
                                            400 15th Street, Oakland, CA

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                                            lrealml RE: rworange May 22, 2011 11:26 PM

                                            Gracie's Delectables in San Carlos has a great turkey sandwich. They roast their own turkey and make their own bread as well.... They also have roast beef, but I haven't tried it.

                                            Gracie's Delectables
                                            902 Laurel St, San Carlos, CA 94070

                                            1. Melanie Wong RE: rworange May 22, 2011 11:34 PM

                                              Steak sandwich on seeded sourdough baked by Nightingale in Forestville. The best sliced sandwich bread in the Bay Area. Not roasted meat but a beautifully cooked locally raised steak by Sonoma Wine Shop La Bodega in Sebastopol.

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                                                rworange RE: Melanie Wong May 22, 2011 11:39 PM

                                                Ohhhh ... I love a good steak sandwich. I'll put it on my list to try as soon as I'm over the current cravings. Other than roasted or in meatloaf, I'm a little burnt out on beef.

                                                Wow, that is really rare. A good steak sandwich in the Bay Area.

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                                                  Melanie Wong RE: rworange May 24, 2011 09:14 AM

                                                  Chef Rick Vargas knows meat and how to cook a steak, as well as doing a stellar job with vegetables. His family ran the now closed West Portal Joe's and Palo Alto Joe's for decades. That was my first time ordering something with meat at La Bodega in the Sonoma Wine Shop; I'd heard another customer raved that she'd never had a better rib eye.

                                                  Nightingale Breads
                                                  6665 Front St, Forestville, CA

                                                  Sonoma Wine Shop
                                                  2295 Gravenstein Hwy S, Sebastopol, CA 95472

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                                                  Melanie Wong RE: Melanie Wong May 22, 2011 11:44 PM

                                                  If you must have roast beef, Lombardi's in Petaluma does its own in-house and it was fantastic when I last had it a few years ago. There are changes afoot --- the Cotati location has changed names as has the downtown Petaluma one near Della Fattoria. Lombardi's on the north side of Petaluma was still flying that color a couple weeks ago.

                                                  Della Fattoria
                                                  141 Petaluma Blvd N, Petaluma, CA 94952

                                                  1. re: Melanie Wong
                                                    rworange RE: Melanie Wong May 23, 2011 07:08 AM

                                                    I'll give Lombardi's a try. If not, although it may seem like everything I don't want, I might look into Della Fattoria. The current online menu has three qualifying sandwiches

                                                    Turkey, Bacon & Cheddar - Black Pig Bacon & Avocado

                                                    Turkey & Avocado Sandwich - A lttle frou, but I can request modifications

                                                    The Reuben - Niman Ranch Pastrami, Alexander Valley Fresh Sauerkraut, Housemade 1000 Island

                                                    While I'm not seeking pastrami, the weird bologna like stuff I had recently makes this sound appealing. Then I can drive over to Sonoma for the salad I've been thinking about.

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                                                      Windy RE: rworange May 30, 2011 09:37 AM

                                                      Niman pastrami isn't worth the trip.

                                                      I'm sure the turkey, bacon, avocado, and cheddar is though.

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                                                        Robert Lauriston RE: rworange May 31, 2011 09:46 AM

                                                        Della Fattoria's Reuben is great, or was. Niman has stopped selling pastrami, which DF used instead of the traditional corned beef.


                                                        Della Fattoria
                                                        141 Petaluma Blvd N, Petaluma, CA 94952

                                                        1. re: rworange
                                                          Malcolm Ruthven RE: rworange May 31, 2011 10:00 AM

                                                          Yesterday I had a Reuben at Fremont Diner outside of Sonoma, and it was just great. No "thousand island dressing", instead their own sauce and condiments. Of course, most things are great there.

                                                          Fremont Diner
                                                          2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

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                                                            Melanie Wong RE: Malcolm Ruthven May 31, 2011 03:31 PM

                                                            Russian dressing is an essential part of a Reuben . . . otherwise it's not Reuben's. Too many places use thousand island dressing which has pickles as a poor substitute. What's in Fremont Diner's?

                                                            Fremont Diner
                                                            2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

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                                                              Malcolm Ruthven RE: Melanie Wong May 31, 2011 04:34 PM

                                                              >What's in Fremont Diner's?<

                                                              I don't really know what their sauce consisted of. I just know that I liked it much better than the usual thousand-island-russian stuff.

                                                              Fremont Diner
                                                              2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

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                                                      wanderlust21 RE: rworange May 23, 2011 12:59 AM

                                                      Just for You Cafe is a good suggestion. Other possibilities: Roxy Food Center, BiRite Market (rb), and the Submarine Center.

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                                                        rworange RE: wanderlust21 May 23, 2011 07:10 AM

                                                        Yeah, I was wondering if Bi-Rite made sandwiches. I don't want to get into subs though.

                                                      2. BernalKC RE: rworange May 23, 2011 05:17 AM

                                                        For a straight-up, old-school sandwich, I have not seen any better than Freddy's Sandwiches. Its tucked away in a pretty obscure location, and its not like it will draw foodies out of the woodwork nor have an Ike's-like draw for the hipsters. Its just good, honest sandwiches served up to the neighborhood.

                                                        Freddie's Sandwiches
                                                        300 Francisco St, San Francisco, CA 94133

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                                                          Malcolm Ruthven RE: rworange May 23, 2011 05:50 AM

                                                          Excellent grilled meatloaf sandwich at Twin Cities Market & Deli in Corte Madera, probably the best I've ever had. I have mine on light rye with grilled onions. A couple of small tables outside. This place is a one-off convenience store that includes a kitchen and deli with mostly really good food.

                                                          Twin Cities Market & Deli
                                                          118 Corte Madera Ave, Corte Madera, CA 94925

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                                                          1. re: Malcolm Ruthven
                                                            rworange RE: Malcolm Ruthven May 23, 2011 07:13 AM

                                                            Great. Good meatloaf is alwys hard to find.

                                                          2. Robert Lauriston RE: rworange May 23, 2011 08:41 AM

                                                            Ted's can probably make what you want. They roast their own beef so could slice it to order, and have old-school classics like Dutch crunch bread.

                                                            Maybe DeLessio or Bi-Rite. Both have a selection of good bread.

                                                            Bi-Rite Market
                                                            3639 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

                                                            Delessio Market & Bakery
                                                            1695 Market St, San Francisco, CA 94103

                                                            Ted's Market & Deli
                                                            1530 Howard St, San Francisco, CA

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                                                            1. re: Robert Lauriston
                                                              Windy RE: Robert Lauriston May 30, 2011 09:39 AM

                                                              I'd go to Delessio inside Faletti's by the DMV rather than the Market Street branch if you want sandwiches.

                                                              Will have to check out Ted's roast beef. Was just asking about rare roast beef on the Manhattan board and got a lot of recs for porchetta, eggplant sandwiches, and the like. Apparently hard to find all over.

                                                              1. re: Windy
                                                                Robert Lauriston RE: Windy May 30, 2011 10:28 AM

                                                                Ted's is old-school. I'm amazed that they're still around.


                                                                1. re: Windy
                                                                  rworange RE: Windy May 30, 2011 02:56 PM

                                                                  The food gods smiled on me and I found a market that has real roast beef and the bread is by a bakery that can stand up and surpass many SF joints.Seriously, I think a tear welled up in my eye when I found out not only did they have actual roast bbeef, but sliced bread from Dona Luisa. So the roast beef craving is goine.

                                                                  It will probably be meat loaf or poultry The only place in town that made meat loaf, stopped making it months ago.

                                                                  1. re: rworange
                                                                    Ruth Lafler RE: rworange May 30, 2011 04:50 PM

                                                                    It's driving me crazy that in the last couple of weeks I was in a place that was touting a meatloaf sandwich -- and I can't remember where it was!

                                                                    1. re: Ruth Lafler
                                                                      ML8000 RE: Ruth Lafler May 30, 2011 09:28 PM

                                                                      Ted's Market makes meatloaf sandwiches.

                                                                      1. re: Ruth Lafler
                                                                        Ruth Lafler RE: Ruth Lafler May 31, 2011 04:09 PM

                                                                        Ah ha! I finally remembered. It was Focaccia. I don't know if they put sandwiches on anything other than their bread (which isn't focaccia, more like a discus-shaped roll in either white or wheat) but in general they're pretty good and made to order so you can get whatever you do (or don't) want on it.

                                                                        1. re: Ruth Lafler
                                                                          Ruth Lafler RE: Ruth Lafler May 31, 2011 04:11 PM

                                                                          Links (the database doesn't seem to have the new First St. location yet, but that's where I saw it).

                                                                          Focaccia Cafe & Bakery
                                                                          119 Sacramento St, San Francisco, CA 94111

                                                                          Cafe Focaccia
                                                                          101 Spear St, San Francisco, CA 94105

                                                                      2. re: rworange
                                                                        mariacarmen RE: rworange May 30, 2011 10:01 PM

                                                                        You're actually back?

                                                                        1. re: mariacarmen
                                                                          rworange RE: mariacarmen May 30, 2011 11:31 PM

                                                                          In two more days ... Wednesday ... adios miercoles ... hello English.

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                                                                            mariacarmen RE: rworange May 31, 2011 11:05 AM

                                                                            wow.... reverse culture shock! it's cold and rainy here....

                                                                  2. alanbarnes RE: rworange May 23, 2011 08:59 AM

                                                                    What about the turkey sandwich at Saul's? I always go for corned beef in some incarnation, but they use good turkeys (Diestel, IIRC), roast in house, carved by hand, and served on Acme bread...

                                                                    Saul's Deli
                                                                    1475 Shattuck Ave, Berkeley, CA 94709

                                                                    1. theomordha RE: rworange May 23, 2011 10:20 AM

                                                                      I distrust a 5 star review, but this one is close, I have rated it at a 5 because it is higher than 4 and a half. Tom and Tina's is new, having been open a month or so. They do internet orders thorugh their website TomandTinasDeli@yahoo.com.

                                                                      Ike's in the City was once a 5 and is no longer IMHO. Genova's is really close to perfection. Great sandwiches are hard to find in Castro Valley. One visit is all you need for Togo's, Quizno's, Subway and Safeway. This is much better. If you think that Joaquins in San Lorenzo is great this is way much better. If you grew up as I have with Luccas' this is also better and different. They are not the same.

                                                                      Tom and Tinas is all about doing something right and doing it really well. I had the chicken and horseradish havarti on Dutch Crunch. The full sandwich is more than enough for a real hunger. The Dutch Crunch was, believe it or not, better than Acme or SemiFreddi. Really. Crunch outside with flavor and soft and great texture and chewy and stood up to the sandwich fixings.

                                                                      Oh, the fixings. Havarti with horse radish, thick and wonderful pesto and garlic oil and onions and everything else. All fresh and all local and well my expectations were high and they were met.

                                                                      In case of hunger I decided I needed a small ourzo and feta salad and that too was perfect. 2 Mexican Cokes and I leisurely lunch and a book whileI watched Castro Valley go by.

                                                                      Very clean, and real attention to every detail. Prompt service and very nice folks. I will be back. This should be on everyone's list of sandwich places if you are after a great roast chicken, roast turkey, tri-tip or Gyro sandwich. These folks know what they do well and do it. If you are in the East Bay at Castro Valley this is the place to go.

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                                                                      1. re: theomordha
                                                                        rworange RE: theomordha May 23, 2011 10:28 AM

                                                                        Tom and Tina's sounds like a real find. I need to start re-creating my Bay Area to-try lists. I'll definately give this a try when I'm in that area. Thanks

                                                                        1. re: rworange
                                                                          wolfe RE: rworange May 23, 2011 11:04 AM

                                                                          Lee's Deli on Shattuck. simple roast turkey( real stuff not pressed processed) with mayo, lettuce and pickle on 9 grain bread, $4.50, made to order and good.

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                                                                        cheesecakeking RE: rworange May 23, 2011 06:00 PM

                                                                        In Los Altos, the American Italian Deli & Gelateria makes very good sandwiches. The oven roasted turkey is splendid, the Godfather and Iron Man are other specialty sandwiches that are very good. The meatloaf is another winner as is the French Dip. One thing that for me has me addicted to this place is their three potato salads. If you really like potato salad, often those found in delis are second rate. The one these folks make that is my favorite is the yellow one, made with mustard and horseradish.

                                                                        American Italian Deli & Gelater
                                                                        139 Main St, Los Altos, CA 94022

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                                                                        1. re: cheesecakeking
                                                                          rworange RE: cheesecakeking May 23, 2011 06:42 PM

                                                                          Thanks ... I'm also craving all things potato ... except fries.

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                                                                          tbiytc RE: rworange May 23, 2011 11:55 PM

                                                                          Has anyone eaten at Wise Sons Deli in San Francisco?

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                                                                            abstractpoet RE: tbiytc May 24, 2011 12:00 AM



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                                                                              tbiytc RE: abstractpoet May 24, 2011 12:22 AM


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                                                                                Windy RE: abstractpoet May 30, 2011 09:39 AM

                                                                                Good luck getting in though. It was in the NY Times yesterday.

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                                                                              abstractpoet RE: rworange May 24, 2011 12:12 AM

                                                                              How do you feel about a Monte Cristo?

                                                                              From the lunch menu at Sidebar:

                                                                              MONTE CRISTO PANINI $9
                                                                              Niman Ranch applewood smoked ham, smoked turkey, gruyere
                                                                              cheese, seasonal compote & small green salad.

                                                                              Anyway, I haven't tried the sandwich, but Sidebar makes pretty good food. Geez, I haven't even thought about a Monte Cristo for years...

                                                                              542 Grand Ave, Oakland, CA

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                                                                              1. re: abstractpoet
                                                                                rworange RE: abstractpoet May 24, 2011 07:11 AM

                                                                                No.Antigua is stuck in the 1970's. Quiche and montecristos are on almost every menu in town ... and fondue. Carrot cake for dessert? Black Russian or tequila sunrise to wash it down? And I can probably eat that in a fern bar.

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                                                                                Foodartist RE: rworange May 24, 2011 08:11 AM

                                                                                This is by far the best sandwich that I ever had. They bake their own fresh hot bread and cook their own turkey, roast beef and ham. This sandwiches are served with fresh pickles or peppers. By noon, the line is out the door. They are not open for dinner. When I am working in downtown San Jose, I have to eat here.

                                                                                Freshly Baked Eatery
                                                                                152 N 3rd St, San Jose, CA 95112

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                                                                                  rworange RE: Foodartist May 24, 2011 08:38 AM

                                                                                  Thanks. That sounds great. If I don't wind up in the San Jose area, this will be on my list for when I'm down that way.

                                                                                  Hmmm ... I could make a nice little sandwich excursion to SJ with all the great suggestions in these threads. Maybe when I go down to CJ Olson in Sunnyvale

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                                                                                    Foodartist RE: rworange May 24, 2011 08:51 AM

                                                                                    I wanted to let everyone know that this deli accepts cash only and most of their sandwiches are around $7.

                                                                                    Freshly Baked Eatery
                                                                                    152 N 3rd St, San Jose, CA 95112

                                                                                    1. re: rworange
                                                                                      myst RE: rworange May 24, 2011 09:16 AM

                                                                                      I may have missed it in the long thread, but Palo Alto's Peninsula Creamery has a good meatloaf sandwich (its what I order everytime i'm there).

                                                                                      I also like Lee's Deli Turkey sandwich. They give you a stack of thick sliced fresh roasted turkey. I always have to put on my own salt and pepper, but for $4.50 I'm willing to do that.....

                                                                                      Lee's Deli - All over the financial district in SF

                                                                                      Peninsula Creamery
                                                                                      900 High St, Palo Alto, CA 94301

                                                                                      1. re: myst
                                                                                        rworange RE: myst May 24, 2011 09:33 AM

                                                                                        Ah, another stop on what is looking like a sandwich crawl down to CJ Olson. Peninsula Creamery crossed my mind though I don't remember ever going there. It gets mixed reviews, but if they only do a good meatloaf sandwich, that's enough.

                                                                                        1. re: rworange
                                                                                          Robert Lauriston RE: rworange May 31, 2011 10:06 AM

                                                                                          You never made it to The Refuge?


                                                                                          1. re: rworange
                                                                                            bbulkow RE: rworange Jun 5, 2011 05:49 PM

                                                                                            Peninsula Creamery gets mixed reviews? From who?
                                                                                            It's important to go in with the right expectations. It's an everyday kind of restaurant. The bugers are always fresh, the fries are home made, the shakes are homey, and sometimes you luck out on the specials. Two can get in and out for under $40 for dinner if they don't overorder. It's no fremont diner, but it's a good eat.

                                                                                            Peninsula Creamery
                                                                                            900 High St, Palo Alto, CA 94301

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                                                                                      lamster RE: rworange May 24, 2011 10:16 AM

                                                                                      Have you been to Cafe Taboo in the Mission? Its on 18th and York. They roast their own chickens and turkeys and the sandwiches are amazing. Also comes with a salad or potatoes, or half and half.

                                                                                      Also available, are their roasted chicken dinners.. served with sides and corn tortillas.

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                                                                                        rworange RE: lamster May 24, 2011 10:21 AM

                                                                                        Wow, never heard of the place. It sounds great. Thanks

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                                                                                        sfnative RE: rworange May 30, 2011 09:27 AM

                                                                                        Coastside folks know that the best place for a real Italian deli sandwich on fresh baked bread is Columbo's in Manor Plaza. If you're headed south from SF on Hwy 1, take the Manor exit in Pacifica. It's an unassuming place to the left of Safeway, and it's packed every weekend. Try the Lt. Columbo or the Godfather. They bake their bread (did I say that already?), and they have a great assortment of Italian foodstuffs -- pick up some cheeses, pastas, olives, while you're there. The sandwiches are huge and delectable. Then go for hike on one of the coastal trails to walk off all that delicious food!

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                                                                                        1. re: sfnative
                                                                                          rworange RE: sfnative May 30, 2011 03:01 PM

                                                                                          I'll keep that in mind for the future. But not to get more Italian suggestions ... I'm looking for American sandwiches.

                                                                                        2. lexdevil RE: rworange May 30, 2011 01:23 PM

                                                                                          Surprised no one has mentioned Avedano's. http://www.avedanos.com/foods.html

                                                                                          235 Cortland Ave, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                                                                                          1. re: lexdevil
                                                                                            Windy RE: lexdevil May 30, 2011 05:36 PM

                                                                                            I like their sandwiches, but they're not unadorned roast beef or turkey, and the bread's whatever they put in the press. Which ones do you get?

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                                                                                            tranewreck RE: rworange May 31, 2011 10:14 AM


                                                                                            i haven't had their turkey but the bread is so good it ennobles all the sandwiches there.

                                                                                            Outerlands Cafe
                                                                                            4001 Judah St, San Francisco, CA 94122

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                                                                                              vulber RE: rworange May 31, 2011 11:56 AM

                                                                                              blue plate for meatloaf

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                                                                                                johnrsf RE: rworange May 31, 2011 10:27 PM

                                                                                                Judy and May's (formerly May's) sandwich shop on 14th St just east of Market & Church has fresh roast beef every day. Although the bread are from a commercial bakery, the roast.beef is rare if you want it that way, and Judy puts just the right amount of horseradish sauce for a delicious sandwich. Half a sandwich. (on two whole slices of bread) is plenty. Others swear by their pastrami, and Judy's brother Quincy (who used to own Quincy's on Market in Civic Center) sometimes makes roast lamb or pork.

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                                                                                                  vulber RE: johnrsf Jun 1, 2011 01:18 AM

                                                                                                  except it's always closed

                                                                                                2. rworange RE: rworange Jun 5, 2011 05:26 PM

                                                                                                  Thanks all

                                                                                                  The short version cuz I don't have email yet

                                                                                                  Vallejo - Java Jax

                                                                                                  Great egg, cheese, bacon (lord, I missed bacon) on sourdough ... perfect
                                                                                                  NY Bakery (from Richmond) rye toast with butter (lord, I missed rye, toast and butter) ... great

                                                                                                  House roast coffee - perfect\

                                                                                                  Chicago Vienna dog - perfect (Gumbah's is cl osed)

                                                                                                  Dillon bread - delicious house roast turkey club
                                                                                                  Some sort of Vallejo coffee roaster that begings with "m". Good, but not as good as Java Jax). Open sat now. Sells bread Thu and Sat

                                                                                                  Petaluma - Lombardi's ... all locations closed. Family continues to run bbq and deli

                                                                                                  house roast beef on sourdough. good
                                                                                                  BBQ turkey on a soft roll with stuffing and cranberry sauce - set my chow bells ringing
                                                                                                  BBQ'd fresh asparagus .... my god!!!
                                                                                                  Some sort of local beer --- yeah, no beer, I said, but this was real beer not the erstatz Gallo

                                                                                                  Fatapple's - meatloaf dinner tonight. Rye toast this morning with house-made ollieberry jam. Meh toast, outstanding jam

                                                                                                  Java Jax
                                                                                                  1700 Sonoma Blvd, Vallejo, CA 94590

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                                                                                                  1. re: rworange
                                                                                                    c oliver RE: rworange Jun 5, 2011 09:32 PM

                                                                                                    They don't have bacon in Guatemala? Wow. Thats one of the things I can count on in Brazil. I'd miss that alot. And no asparagus? I'm surprised by that also

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                                                                                                      JoanN RE: c oliver Jun 9, 2011 02:57 PM

                                                                                                      Lots of bacon in Guatemala. Some of it home smoked and very, very good. Plenty of asparagus, too, but only in season. As is true with all vegetables there and must be true in Brazil as well.

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                                                                                                        c oliver RE: JoanN Jun 9, 2011 04:13 PM

                                                                                                        Defntely. Locavore is pretty redundant. And appreciated by me anyway. We knew which neighborhoods had markets on which days of the week. Where the best meat, fish, etc. was. Hey, kinda reminds me of NYC :)

                                                                                                        3215 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                                                                                                          rworange RE: JoanN Jun 10, 2011 12:23 PM

                                                                                                          Yeah. but it doesn't taste the same as American bacon. That didn't hit me until I had the breakfast sandwich with bacon at Java Jax. It wasn't fancy bacon, just your average American bacon, but it was an OMG moment. I didn't know how much I missed that taste until then. As soon as tomato season is in full swing ... BLT here I come.

                                                                                                          If I ever get a chance to get caught up, I'll post about the new organic store in Antigua with a slew of organic produce (mostly Coaba Farms). Slew translates to both red and orange tomatoes and edible flowers. It opened a week before I left.

                                                                                                          But ... I'm from California. That sad little produce collection in GT (tropical fruit excluded) just doesn't do it from me. Ironically, a local supermarket, Raley's, special this week was Roma tomatoes, mangoes (3 for $1) and bananas. I passed. Man, I don't even want banana cream pie.

                                                                                                          I'm just reveling in the glorious produce ... and it is not even really summer. My step daughters who pretty much hate everything American right now had to admit the the strawberries and peaches were amazing ... "muy rico. No acido (sour)" like Guatemala.

                                                                                                          And even US markets don't match the local Zucker's asaragus which comes in various sizes and colors such as purple as well as green.

                                                                                                          I madly roamed around Berkeley Bowl yesterday taking photos for a Guatemalan friend about produce he could not imagine ... gold, green and orange cauliflower ... seven types of cherries ... not to mention over 200 different bottles of beer on the wall.

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                                                                                                        Melanie Wong RE: rworange Jun 6, 2011 12:54 AM

                                                                                                        You've answered my question. I noticed a Vienna dog banner near the corner of Georgia and Sonoma Blvd when I drove through Vallejo a week ago. Now i know it's Java Jax.

                                                                                                        Java Jax
                                                                                                        1700 Sonoma Blvd, Vallejo, CA 94590

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                                                                                                          rworange RE: Melanie Wong Jun 8, 2011 11:56 AM

                                                                                                          Yeah, they have about a dozen different types of hot dogs including a Sonora dog. When I get a chance I'll post. Went to the tortilla shop in Sonoma (Jalisco?) which has expanded its menu and now has some good-looking deep-fried Sonora dogs. They've added burritos, but as one kid said, it is mainly beans and rice and little meat. At $7 a pop, I thought it was excessive as was the $2.50 agua fresca in an average size glass.

                                                                                                          Not that I was looking for franks. Hot dogs happened.

                                                                                                          Don't know if anyone has reported but there is a bizarre (to me) cupcake shop across the street from Java Jax in Vallejo. Hate to do a yelp, but not only is it the worst service since I've been writing about food, it is the worst service I've had in my life. The woman was really scary, sugar sweet to some and turned on others including me. She actually lept in front of the case to protect her cupcakes from me and tried to egg me into a fight. Fortunately for her, it was my first day out and about, and I was just so happy to be home and uttering "God bless America" all day, that I didn't take the bait. After three requests for her boss's number, I finally got it. Don't feel like bothering though. The cupcake wasn't good enough.

                                                                                                          For anyone who might want to chance entering the twilight zone, they did have a chicken and waffle cupcake with real fried chicken. It sounded at the time a little stomach churning to me ... though thinking about it afterward, it probably makes sense.

                                                                                                          Anyway, I was hoping for a good cupcake so this report could rise above the wonky service. I got the apple caramel cupcake which looked quite lovely with skin-on green Granny Smith apples and a swirl of caramel.

                                                                                                          Guatemalans love excessivley sweet .... sweets. The frosting would be too sweet for a Guatemalan and it had no caramel flavor ... not even brown sugar ... only sweet. It was that light type of whipped butter cream that doesn't have the density and butteriness I'm looking for.

                                                                                                          The cupcake itself had nice apple spice flavor. The texture was light, sort of similar to the texture of boxed cake mixes.

                                                                                                          So for me, given the service issue, I have no reason to go back. Maybe there are other better flavors. However, at $3 a cupcake in a city with a depressed economy such as Vallejo (unless it rebounded while I was gone ... didn't look it) ... anyway, the owner might pay attention to the crazed cupcake clerk.

                                                                                                          1. re: rworange
                                                                                                            Melanie Wong RE: rworange Jun 8, 2011 12:04 PM

                                                                                                            The Cupcake Marauder cape you wear may have made her wary . . .

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                                                                                                          wolfe RE: rworange Jun 6, 2011 02:28 AM


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                                                                                                            rworange RE: wolfe Jun 8, 2011 12:07 PM

                                                                                                            Yeah, thanks

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                                                                                                            margieco RE: rworange Jun 6, 2011 10:29 AM

                                                                                                            For a Chicago vienna dog there are 2 choices -- both in SOMA.

                                                                                                            The Grill on Bryant @ 6th (right next door to the newly opened turtle tower) has both chicago style hot dogs and italian beef. ONLY open during the weekdays for lunch.

                                                                                                            a Beef - Hot dog truck at 7th and Folsom. Random hours (check their web site for current).

                                                                                                            Da Beef
                                                                                                            300 Seventh Street, San Francisco, CA

                                                                                                            The Grill
                                                                                                            799 Bryant St, SF, CA 94103

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                                                                                                              johnrsf RE: margieco Jun 7, 2011 06:49 AM

                                                                                                              Do any of them do char dogs (grilled hot dogs)? I failed to get my fix on my last trip back home to Chicago, and now I'm still craving one. The steamed dogs they sell at O'Hare don't quite cut it.

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                                                                                                                margieco RE: johnrsf Jun 8, 2011 06:21 PM

                                                                                                                I don't think so. The grill MIGHT (i got an italian beef when i was there) but da beef is definitely just a vienna beef stand (no char capability).

                                                                                                          3. jillyju RE: rworange Jun 7, 2011 10:43 AM

                                                                                                            First of all, welcome home! Now, onward to the food:
                                                                                                            For turkey:
                                                                                                            I just had a terrific fresh roasted turkey sandwich, for only 5.99, at Arguello Super Market, on Arguello between Cabrillo and Golden Gate in SF. I got it on Dutch Crunch with only tomato and onion added and it was full of moist, still warm turkey meat. Exceptional.
                                                                                                            For meatloaf: Not that long ago I had a delicious meatloaf sandwich off the regular menu at Morty's Delicatessen on Golden Gate. I just took a look at their current online menu and don't see it, but do see a hot meatball sandwich that might fit the bill. I don't get to Morty's too often, but whenever I do I think that if I worked in the area it would be a daily stop.

                                                                                                            I can't seem to create a new link for Arguello Super Market, so here's the info for that:

                                                                                                            Arguello Super Market
                                                                                                            782 Arguello Blvd.
                                                                                                            San Francisco, CA 94118

                                                                                                            Morty's Delicatessen
                                                                                                            280 Golden Gate Ave, San Francisco, CA 94102

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                                                                                                              rworange RE: jillyju Jun 8, 2011 12:12 PM

                                                                                                              The meatloaf platter at FatApples was good and came with dinner rolls with butter, mashed potatoes, gravy and a nice green salad with chunky blue cheese dressing. Matched with a half a carafe of house wine (Woodbridge, good enough and $7.50 for a three and a half glass carafe) it was a good start. I plan to check out the other joints as time permits.

                                                                                                              The thing with turkey, is that while it is house-roasted, it seems most places slice it deli thin. So, the grocery market across from Delancy Street on Townsend and the Embarcadero is high on my list. You can buy a turkey leg and they will hand slice it to make your sandwich. The sandwich I'm dreaming about right now.

                                                                                                              Oh yeah. Got a craving for liverwurst. Doesn't need to be a sandwich shop. Anyplace sell good liverwurst that I can make into a sandwich?

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                                                                                                                wolfe RE: rworange Jun 8, 2011 12:19 PM

                                                                                                                Seakor Polish Deli San Francisco?

                                                                                                                Seakor Polish Deli
                                                                                                                5957 Geary Blvd, San Francisco, CA

                                                                                                                1. re: rworange
                                                                                                                  Robert Lauriston RE: rworange Jun 8, 2011 02:11 PM

                                                                                                                  Best liverwurst I've had was from Lehr's.

                                                                                                                  Lehr's German Specialties
                                                                                                                  1581 Church St, San Francisco, CA

                                                                                                                  1. re: rworange
                                                                                                                    Windy RE: rworange Jun 8, 2011 03:49 PM

                                                                                                                    Not all turkey places slice it thin. Arguello Market (uniformly praised above) is in big hunks. Lee's Sandwiches is not thin either.

                                                                                                                    1. re: Windy
                                                                                                                      rworange RE: Windy Jun 9, 2011 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                      Thanks. Had the turkey sandwich at Cafe Soleil in El Sobrante yesterday which was house-roasted and thin-sliced. It was fine. It came with a large bowl of house-chowder which was really potato soup with chopped clams. I was hoping they would have meat loaf, but no such luck.

                                                                                                                      While this was actually a good value ($8.95 for sandwich and soup), to me, I'm still having problems getting over sticker shock. One of my last Guatemalan dinners was a nine course tasting menu at a restaurant that competed in the Bocousse D'Oro this year. . With wine, coffee, tip, (no tax), and the nine supurb courses .... $45). The next day at the same place there was an outstanding Sunday brunch where I ate my weight in great lox ... $12 with tip. So $13 for soup, sandwich, tip and tax ... I need to recalibrate

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                                                                                                                        Windy RE: rworange Jun 9, 2011 02:42 PM

                                                                                                                        or head to Mr. Pollo.

                                                                                                                        Mr. Pollo
                                                                                                                        2823 Mission St, San Francisco, CA 94110

                                                                                                                        1. re: Windy
                                                                                                                          rworange RE: Windy Jun 10, 2011 12:39 PM

                                                                                                                          i don't want to step inside anything for a while with the word 'pollo'. Chicken, yes. Pollo, no. If it is going to be fast food chicken it is going to be American fast food chicken. Too burnt out on Latino food.

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                                                                                                                            Windy RE: rworange Jun 10, 2011 12:51 PM

                                                                                                                            Mr Pollo isn't chicken or fast food; usually I get goat or lamb on the $10 3-course lunch special. It is South American though.

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                                                                                                                              rworange RE: Windy Jun 10, 2011 01:05 PM

                                                                                                                              Thanks. Yeah, excluding all of Central and South America for a little while ... I'll get to that new Brazilian joint on San Pablo one of these days ... just not now. Will keep Mr. Pollo in the back of my mind.

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                                                                                                                  Pius Avocado III RE: rworange Jun 15, 2011 06:05 PM

                                                                                                                  This may not fit the type of sandwich you're looking for in this particular thread but I have a friend who takes lengthy detours to go to Canesa's Brooklyn Deli in Clayton.

                                                                                                                  Advanced chowsearch turns up nothing. Google search turns up some interesting info, including a tasty photo of the Vinny stromboli hero. No mention of roast beef, meatloaf etc.

                                                                                                                  This place is on my short shortlist based on my pal's fervent raves, but I'm rarely anywhere near Clayton during sandwiching hours.

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                                                                                                                    rworange RE: Pius Avocado III Jun 15, 2011 06:35 PM

                                                                                                                    First, I had to remember where Clayton was (Walnut Creek Area). Need to take a ride up that way to see what's changed since my last time there.

                                                                                                                    Looking at yelp, at first I was put off by the boast of them using Boar's Head cold cuts. But it seems the house-made Italian stuff is the way to go and there's a report of Italian ice.

                                                                                                                    Also, supposedly there might be Taylor ham for breakfast. I'm ready to move on to Italian ... Brooklyn Italian.

                                                                                                                    Thanks. Sounds like a great tip

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