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joe777cool May 20, 2011 05:57 PM

Can someone please explain this phenomenon to me? I vaguely understand why one would use utensils with deep dish, but thin crust? really? Is it just where I live (Rhode Island)? Maybe if you get a pizza in a fine dining restaurant, etiquette dictates it, but in a pizzaria? Boggles my mind!

  1. jmcarthur8 May 20, 2011 06:50 PM

    Yep, I'm the guilty one. Sometimes the pizza is too hot, or too saucy or too heavy and floppy to pick up right away, so just to get going on it ASAP, I'll cut it up and eat the first pieces with a fork.
    Plus, my mouth is too small to get around a big piece without smashing a big pizza sauce smile onto each side of my face.
    Sometimes it's just physics.

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      givemecarbs May 21, 2011 01:36 AM

      When I was traveling in France and Italy I noticed most everyone used utensils for their pizza, even in casual places. Heck, in France they even used utensils on sandwiches sometimes. Dunno if that is still the case as this was quite awhile ago.

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        sunshine842 May 21, 2011 02:51 AM

        Not too much with sandwiches, but pretty common with pizza -- French pizza is usually a very thin crust, and you usually get a whole pizza to yourself (about 12" diameter). They don't cut it when they take it out of the oven, so you have to cut it somehow!

        Because the crust is so thin, about 1/3 of the slice (from the point) is too thin to pick up, so a fork and knife eliminates the flow of lava-hot sauce and cheese down your fingers and chin.

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          BelovedofIsis May 25, 2011 03:34 AM

          Yes Europe very much so still uses utensils to eat their pizza and it is very irritating that because of this most places will not cut the pizza in to slices for for you! But I adjusted and I do really enjoy the thinner crusted pizzas.

        2. TheHuntress May 21, 2011 01:42 AM

          No idea. I love to eat with my hands and will embrace any opportunity to do so. Pizza is just made to be eaten by hand!

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            EWSflash May 21, 2011 01:43 PM

            +1

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            nobadfoodplz May 21, 2011 06:23 AM

            Mr Joe

            There is another reason for the knife and fork. Some pizza makers are not that good and serve a pizza that just cannot be lifted to the mouth. and the center points will tilt over and you loose all the good stuff. So for many pizzas I use the 2-step. I cut the tip of the slice until I feel confident that I can safely lift and enjoy phase 2.

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              beevod May 21, 2011 09:22 AM

              Policy at one of my favorite Italian restaurants: If you order pizza and eat it with utensils, they remove the pizza, tear up the check and ask you to leave.

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                joe777cool May 21, 2011 10:40 AM

                I think that restaurant is one my favorites too!

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                  512window May 21, 2011 10:44 AM

                  In the country of Italy, pizza is always eaten with utensils. So your restaurant must be Italian-American.

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                    escondido123 May 21, 2011 12:06 PM

                    I don't think that is always so, at least not from my memory. If you get pizza from a vendor on the street--I remember one with artichokes--it is often cut, set onto a piece of paper and handed to you. No fork or knife involved.

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                    nobadfoodplz May 21, 2011 12:38 PM

                    That is the epitome of a a-hole owner. I would love to know the name to totally avoid that self important jacka$$

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                      BiscuitBoy May 25, 2011 08:57 AM

                      ah, but any different from snooty places that require a jacket, or will give you a skeevy loaner? Those are the self important places I avoid

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                      BKK Brendan May 21, 2011 01:26 PM

                      Can I please get the name of that restaurant beevod? I will go there with a big party of people and we will each order a pizza and eat with utensils until they stop us. Then I will bring a new group of friends(who would turn down free pizza?) to do the same thing until that restaurant realizes how stupid they are.

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                        nobadfoodplz May 21, 2011 01:43 PM

                        Please post time and date, would love to go there as well.

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                          sunshine842 May 21, 2011 01:55 PM

                          imagine the fun of having a table full of people who all eat the pizza...without hands OR utensils.

                          You know, just to make the point of how ridiculous their policy is.

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                          BiscuitBoy May 25, 2011 08:54 AM

                          outstanding policy!

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                          ediblover May 21, 2011 01:52 PM

                          There's a reason why the bottom and ends have nice clean breading.

                          1. bagelman01 May 21, 2011 02:17 PM

                            Reason to use a knife and fork...................

                            I weigh too much. Therefore, I never eat more than two complete slices of pizza. I then use the fork to eat the toppings off additional slices and use the knife as a pusher. I just don't need the additional bread.

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                              joe777cool May 21, 2011 02:36 PM

                              Damn the bread and a few carbs, head straight for the cheese and meat!

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                                mucho gordo May 23, 2011 04:54 PM

                                Similar situation here, bagelman. Mrs G uses knife and fork and doesn't much care about toppings. Give her naked crust and she's a happy camper. Me; just the opposite. I'll eat the crust but would rather fill up on the toppings.

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                                CyndiA May 23, 2011 08:14 PM

                                I had braces when I was in my teens. It's really hard to eat pizza with braces and can be painful if they have just been tightened. Plus, the cheese tends to stick and string with the braces brackets. It worked out much better then to use a knife and fork and cut bite sized pieces.

                                1. BiscuitBoy May 25, 2011 06:56 AM

                                  When I get a nice hot pie straight from the oven, I usually use a knife to cut the tip off the first slice or two, so as to keep it from flopping around. This could be solved by doing the "fold", but again, with a hot piece (and who doesn't want a hot piece!) toppings tend to dance around...besides the fold is akin to eating caviar with stainless, or sprinkling the cheese product in the green container on pasta, or licking the ice cream bowl (ok, THAT I do). When the pizza cools alittle the utensil thing isn't necessary. Pizza is meant to eat with your hands

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                                    sunshine842 May 25, 2011 07:01 AM

                                    It's cultural -- if you were raised to eat it with utensils, it's wrong to eat it with your hands.
                                    If you were raised to eat it with your hands, it's wrong to eat it with utensils.

                                    If you're at home, eat it with your feet if you want. If you're in a restaurant and especially if you're in a different country/culture, just take a quick glance around and see if anybody else is eating it your way.

                                    it's pizza. It's just not important enough to get fussed over.

                                  2. LorenM May 25, 2011 01:24 PM

                                    Reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where everyone starts copying George eating a Snickers Bar with a knife and fork. Me- I'm a hands guy hands down! Pizza, fried chicken, ribs, heck I'll even pick up a pork chop once in a while just to gnaw on it. What a barbarian I must be!

                                    1. lexuschef May 25, 2011 04:15 PM

                                      I use utensils for a very practical reason: I wear contacts and love jalapenos on my pizza. I can control the stability of the peppers on each bite and not have to pick up the ones that fall off. Jalapeno juice + removing contact lenses (yes, sometimes even after thorough washing) = PAIN!

                                      If jalapenos are not part of the meal equation, then I use my paws ;)

                                      Teresa

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                                        oddcouple1 May 25, 2011 04:35 PM

                                        I spill pretty much anything I eat on my shirt. Pizza sauce/grease etc., is next to imposible to get out. Utensils reduce the occurrences of spillage by a huge amount. :P

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