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A16 or Delfina for pizza

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P Town May 19, 2011 06:18 PM

From out of town which one should I go to.

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A16
2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

Delfina Restaurant
3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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  1. Robert Lauriston RE: P Town May 19, 2011 06:32 PM

    Depends what style you prefer. Why those two?

    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/525785

    1. bbqman RE: P Town May 19, 2011 07:23 PM

      Yikes! Both of your choices are overpriced and over hyped. Try Goat Hill in the Potrero!

      www.goathill.com

      bbqman

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        Thomas Nash RE: bbqman May 19, 2011 07:34 PM

        Not cheap, but both of these places are among the best in the country and definitely worth a destination visit for an out of towner. I can't say that about Goat Hill, which is fine but not up there with the others mentioned.

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          farmersdaughter RE: bbqman May 19, 2011 08:28 PM

          Goat Hill is not of the same caliber/quality/uniqueness as Delfina Pizzeria, A16, Una Pizza Napoletana, Zero Zero, Tony's, Gialina, etc. Not even close.

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          Gialina
          2842 Diamond St, San Francisco, CA 94131

          A16
          2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

          Delfina Restaurant
          3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

          Una Pizza Napoletana
          200 11th St, San Francisco, CA 94103

          Zero Zero
          826 Folsom St, San Francisco, CA 94107

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          Thomas Nash RE: P Town May 19, 2011 07:33 PM

          Both excellent. Depends what part of town you are in and where you want to end up. There are 2 Pizzeria Delfina.

          We go to Delfina frequently and it is always excellent. The veggie appetizers and other dishes are also excellent.

          Long lines at all these places at peak hours. A16 might take reservations, if you can get them. At Pizzeria Delfina, you stand a good chance around 6-630 or very late. Sundays are mobbed if it is a nice day. Sit outside (unless it really cold they have heaters) or at the counter.

          The 18th St location is right in the foodie ghetto which is interesting in itself. Tartine Bakery open to 730 PM is next door and incredible. Across the street is Birite Creamery with fantasitc icecream - it belongs to Birite Grocery also worth visiting.

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          A16
          2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

          Pizzeria Delfina
          3611 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

          Pizzeria Delfina
          2406 California St, San Francisco, CA 94115

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            vulber RE: P Town May 19, 2011 09:13 PM

            if you care more about crust, a16, if you care more about toppings, delfina.

            note that delfina is more casual but also can be difficult to get into; a16 takes reservations and has a wider wine selection, dessert menu, and gives you complimentary bread with amazing olive oil.

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              Windy RE: vulber May 19, 2011 09:33 PM

              funny, I would say exactly the opposite.

              For me Delfina is the perfect crust (especially the Napolitana). A16 while traditional has softer crust, served on a plate rather than on metal, which keeps it crisp.

              Best time to go to Delfina is mid to late afternoon.

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              A16
              2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

              1. re: vulber
                Robert Lauriston RE: vulber May 19, 2011 09:34 PM

                Depends on how you like the crust. A16's is soft and tender in the traditional Neapolitan way, personally I prefer crisp with some crunch.

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                A16
                2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

              2. ipsedixit RE: P Town May 19, 2011 09:37 PM

                A16.

                But that's just me if those were the only 2 choices.

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                A16
                2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

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                  the mess RE: P Town May 19, 2011 11:23 PM

                  Pizzeria Delfina doesn't use a wood oven, so A16 has an edge if you're looking for that smoke-kissed taste. But putting that aside, I would definitely send an out-of-towner to PD first. It's a more quintessentially San Francisco restaurant. A16 is more or less like a great Italian restaurant you'd find in any big U.S. city. Plus I agree with vulber that Delfina wins on toppings.

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                  A16
                  2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

                  Delfina Restaurant
                  3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

                  Pizzeria Delfina
                  2406 California St, San Francisco, CA 94115

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                    Robert Lauriston RE: the mess May 20, 2011 09:27 AM

                    Cotogna's pizza is fairly similar to Pizzeria Delfina's, but they have a wood oven. It's my current favorite of that general style, and I like the relatively tranquil atmosphere better than A16 or the Mission PD (haven't been to the Western Addition branch). And they take reservations.

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                    Cotogna
                    490 Pacific Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

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                      vulber RE: Robert Lauriston May 20, 2011 10:50 AM

                      getting a reservation at cotogna seems harder than getting into pizzeria delfina these days...

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                        Robert Lauriston RE: vulber May 20, 2011 11:26 AM

                        Looks like they block out peak dinner hours on Opentable. It's easy to get one at lunch or 10pm. Maybe more availability if you phone.

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                          steve h. RE: vulber May 20, 2011 11:27 AM

                          Getting a reservation at Cotogna is pretty difficult. Dinner service starts at 5:30 and can be pretty active almost to closing. Pizza, however, is served throughout the day.

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                          Cotogna
                          490 Pacific Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

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                            Mr_Happy RE: steve h. May 20, 2011 03:22 PM

                            Wasn't wowed by Cotogna's pizza the one time I had it (the one with clams), though I haven't tried Pizzeria Delfina or A16. Had a bit too much chew. Haven't tried much pizza in SF but for neapolitan style I prefer the pizzas at Pizzaiolo and Boot and Shoe Service in Oakland.

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                            Pizzaiolo
                            5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609

                            A16
                            2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

                            Delfina Restaurant
                            3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

                            Boot and Shoe Service
                            3308 Grand Ave, Oakland, CA 94610

                            Cotogna
                            490 Pacific Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

                            1. re: Mr_Happy
                              steve h. RE: Mr_Happy May 20, 2011 03:27 PM

                              I'm a fan of Tony's and Una Pizza Napoletana for pizza in the style of Naples.

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                              Una Pizza Napoletana
                              200 11th St, San Francisco, CA 94103

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                                rjk6w4 RE: steve h. May 22, 2011 04:10 PM

                                Agree. Una Pizza or Tony's are better than both Delfina and A16 IMO.

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                                A16
                                2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

                                Delfina Restaurant
                                3621 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

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                                  Robert Lauriston RE: steve h. May 23, 2011 08:58 AM

                                  I found UPN kind of bland. And I like pork products on my pizza.

                                  Tony's makes a lot of different kinds of pizza besides the traditional Neapolitan pie. They have five different ovens and around dozen different kinds of dough.

                                  Margherita Napoletana: wood oven, San Felice flour, hand-mixed dough, medium crust
                                  other Napoletanas: wood oven, Caputo flour, medium crust
                                  Classic American: NY flat-top gas brick oven, medium crust
                                  Classic American: NY flat-top gas brick oven, thin crust
                                  Classic Italian: Italian electric brick oven, medium crust (thin on request?)
                                  Romana: Italian electric brick oven, long thin crust
                                  Sicilian: Italian electric brick oven, thick crust
                                  Classic Italian: domed gas brick oven, medium crust
                                  coal-fired (thin? not specified)
                                  calzone, baked
                                  calzone, deep-fried
                                  Detroit-style (not on menu)

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                                    steve h. RE: Robert Lauriston May 24, 2011 03:09 PM

                                    I love pizza. Both Tony and Anthony make good pies in the style of Naples. Haven't found a pizza in the style of Rome in San Francisco but to be honest, I haven't looked. What have you found?

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                                      Robert Lauriston RE: steve h. May 24, 2011 03:29 PM

                                      East End Pizza and Ideale are the closest to Roman style I've found.

                                      Delarosa bills its pizza as Roman-style, but the one I had was pretty typical contemporary SF style.

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                                      Ideale
                                      1315 Grant Ave, San Francisco, CA 94133

                                      East End Pizza
                                      1650 Park St, Alameda, CA 94501

                                      1. re: Robert Lauriston
                                        steve h. RE: Robert Lauriston May 24, 2011 03:34 PM

                                        I've always liked Ideale because it reminds me of a simple, neighborhood Roman place. I've never tried the pizza there. It's now on the stack.

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                        mjlewis RE: P Town May 24, 2011 02:44 PM

                        We like both, although we mostly get the margherita so I can't say much about the topping selections. One thing I will point out is that PD has takeout for anything on the menu and that is a way better idea than eating there if you're going anywhere near peak hours -- your takeout order can be ready in 20-25 minutes, which is frequently shorter than it takes just to get seated.

                        (also, the meatballs at PD and the burrata at A16 are both excellent.)

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                        A16
                        2355 Chestnut St., San Francisco, CA 94123

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