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anneinva May 19, 2011 06:29 AM

Any suggestions? I see that Ketchup serves breakfast. Has anyone eaten breakfast there?

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    Jason1 RE: anneinva May 19, 2011 07:17 AM

    I feel like I know so little about National Harbor. Apparently including that there's a restaurant there named Ketchup. I'm shocked at the size of the development and how little publicity it seems to generate. Is anything good there?

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      monkeyrotica RE: Jason1 May 24, 2011 05:54 AM

      The reviews of Ketchup are hilarious. Apparently, it got so out of hand that management insisted that employees of the restaurant post positive reviews.

      http://www.yelp.com/biz/ketchup-natio...

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        shansbo RE: monkeyrotica Jun 25, 2011 06:20 AM

        Let's be fair here, there are no great eateries in DC around the National Mall but people pay a ridiculous amount of money to eat there. They go there for the attractions. I paid $11 for a slice of pizza on the Mall in DC. I will never do that again. And let's be real the food is horrible at all major attractions. The food at the harbor in Baltimore is horrible. Disney is a great place to go, but the food is horrible in my opinon. Places like The National Harbor are for the events, scenery, attractions, and ambiance. If you want good food check out a local hole in the wall or a diner.

    2. woodleyparkhound RE: anneinva May 19, 2011 09:46 AM

      I've been to National Harbor once, about 2-3 years ago to see Cirque du Soleil. At that time, Rosa Mexicana (which was PACKED) and Potbelly were about the only places open. I thought the whole place was appalling and had no desire to return.

      Since then, several people have requested recommendations for National Harbor on this board. People who do are generally advised to take a water taxi to Alexandria for dinner. If you do a search for "National Harbor" you'll see what has been recommended. I don't think I've seen a breakfast request come up before though.

      I get the feeling - if I'm wrong I invite people to chime in and tell me so - that National Harbor is a completely artificial "village" that has been built solely for conventions, so 95% of the people who are there at any given time live in other parts of the country. Anyone who could give you some credible advice about breakfast at Ketchup wouldn't be a person who would frequent this board, as they are now back home in Chicago or wherever.

      I guess that is a long-winded way of saying that I can't help you! (I hope someone else can, though!)

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        Jason1 RE: woodleyparkhound May 19, 2011 11:46 AM

        That's what's pretty amazing. Just check out the dining list on the National Harbor website...it's huge! But I've never heard of anyone that lives around here actually going there. There is however a Peeps retail store that has my family pretty intrigued.

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          agarnett100 RE: Jason1 May 19, 2011 11:52 AM

          Reviews have been mixed on the board also its just as easy for most people to go to a restaurant in DC.

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/779905

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            woodleyparkhound RE: agarnett100 May 19, 2011 12:07 PM

            "its just as easy for most people to go to a restaurant in DC" ... for whom? Surely not for the people who have the misfortune to be stuck out there. I think that if people staying there want to eat there for convenience sake, which is understandable, they have to give up a lot on food quality -- so CHs staying out there would be advised to inconvenience themselves by going to Alexandria or DC for dinner.

            Also, when I went, we took Metro and bus, since neither of us had a car. Getting there wasn't too bad, but coming back, we stood outside in January and froze our buns off waiting for a bus that never came. We must have waited an hour until we gave up and shared a taxi to a Metro station with a guy who was also standing at the bus stop. There's nothing out there that would make me consider putting myself through what it takes to get there - and especially to get back home.

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              agarnett100 RE: woodleyparkhound May 19, 2011 12:51 PM

              What I meant to say was easy for locals with a car or Metro access to hit a higher caliber food destination in DC rather then National Harbor. National Harbor caters toward people attending conferences and it maybe inconvenient for them to hit a restaurant in DC or Alexandria due to transportation or timing.

              I mean who wants to wait an hour plus for a bus to Metro in Jan?

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                woodleyparkhound RE: agarnett100 May 19, 2011 02:22 PM

                Sorry, I get what you meant now and I fully agree. And as for the last question you posed, the answer would be NOBODY! :-)

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                  cb1 RE: woodleyparkhound May 19, 2011 05:58 PM

                  WPH....you are so correct. It is totally catered to out of town convention types. They don't know where to go, so they have you. Overpriced mediocre options. I know people who have the National Harbor Place literaly in their back yard, and they don't go there to eat. I understand Disney is getting in the mix soon, that will make it worse. Honestly, I really believe within ten years the whole place will go bankrupted. Maybe they are pulling in bigger conventions than I've read about, but I don't see that place lasting the way it is.

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                    Insidious Rex RE: cb1 May 24, 2011 10:12 AM

                    Yeah Im one of those people who has it in their back yard and I dont much like the choices either (what galls me is paying $11to park for an hour if you are there in the evening... THAT keeps me from EVER going to any restaurants there). But then I DO want it to succeed, tourist trap or not, because it provides a boost for the local real estate and the local economy thats in desperate need of a boost. Not much of a boost mind you but if it became a ghost town over night that would be a significant blow for a county thats struggling to begin with. PG rarely gets this kind of opportunity. Even awful parts of DC have been transforming with cool restaurants and bars in the past decade while PG has been stagnating. So thank god for Gaylord I say, convention bubble or not.

                    The one thing Ive enjoyed is the events that take place there. They have the land to have large multi staged concert festivals that are a lot of fun (Abbey Road on the River was phenomenal last year) and theyve had some Oktoberfests and BBQ festivals and the like that have been enjoyable too. So keep an eye on the calendar of events and if you see something you like go ahead and patronize. But yeah no sense going there for dining experiences. I could hook you up with under the radar local places in the Oxon Hill/Fort Washington area that would be MUCH better (and significantly cheaper) than anything at NH.

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        rappel75 RE: anneinva May 23, 2011 04:22 AM

        Wow, so much hatred for National Harbor. I was just there for the day a few weekends ago and it was worth a trip. No, I'm not going to be traveling there to go to dinner, but there are a lot of shops and restaurants and it was a fun outing. It is a bit artificial and convention like but a lot of new communities start out that way. Trust me, this place is not going anywhere. They are building a children's museum, which will make it a good family destination. As for breakfast, I think, besides the hotels, the only option is Ketchup, which has a nice diner vibe.

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          agarnett100 RE: rappel75 May 23, 2011 06:15 AM

          "Wow, so much hatred for National Harbor" - I certainly have no hatred for the National Harbor its just a little bit out of the way to travel especially for an inconsistent meal. I wish that area luck

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            cb1 RE: rappel75 May 23, 2011 05:10 PM

            rappel.....I re-read my post, and wow it did come off hateful. I really didn't mean it that way. I hope the place lasts, as its good for the county. I was just basing my post on what I've seen and everyone I know who has been there. I know it's not going anywhere, to much money invsted, but I really don't see it as being anything other than a convention place. If they want to make it a tourist or even local attraction, then they have a long way to go.

            I should have thought out my thoughts before I posted the first time.

          2. Dennis S RE: anneinva Jun 25, 2011 01:22 PM

            So what's wrong with hitting Jimmy's at Fell's Point then walking or cabbing it over to the sites?

            Same as in DC. Plan the trip to the mall so that you start and then end wisely.

            Not gettin' it. Sorry.

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