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paulj May 18, 2011 02:59 PM

Any time Food Network is discussed in this section, people complain that there aren't any good cooking shows on that channel (or any other). Some talk as though they haven't seen a good show since they were cooking novices sitting at the feet of St Julia or pretending to be Mario's sidekick as he toured Italy.

So who would be your ideal instructor, and why? What recipes or techniques would you like to see featured on such a show? How about the format - studio, no audience, small audience, on-site? Home kitchen or restaurant? Straight forward instruction, or enlivened with Good Eats style props and story lines?

You get bonus points for suggesting someone who isn't already too busy managing a mini-chain of restaurants and charities.

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    zooxanthellae May 18, 2011 03:26 PM

    I'd gladly watch Harold McGee for 30 or 60 minutes as he explained the history, culture and chemistry of various foodstuffs. No audience, no studio. More like a documentary of a certain ingredient or method of preparation than a cooking show, although there might be some recipes introduced.

    So basically Good Eats, but more hardcore. And as far as I know Harold McGee doesn't manage any restaurants or charities (although he does, according to Wikipedia, do consulting work and write a column).

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      paulj May 19, 2011 10:17 AM

      I hadn't thought of Harold in this role. He does have a lot of good information to share. But would a 30 minute weekly show be a good way to present this?

      I have heard him on The Splendid Table, and I see he has some video clips, posted by the publisher of his latest book, Keys to Good Cooking
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94PC8mi32hA
      FN Canada also interviewed him
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-fXT83Z3l4
      Alton thinks Harold would 'win on theory', Shirley 'on applied'
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xvsEY...

      Good Eats and Americas Test Kitchen are examples of weaving this kind of food science in with recipes and entertainment.

      The Keys book does appear to have made a big splash. I haven't seen any threads raving about it, and the Amazon reviews are quite mixed.

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        Kelli2006 May 19, 2011 01:32 PM

        Harold and Shirley Corriher would be a heck of a show.

        I love the ease that Jacques Pepin cooks but I don't learn much from him. A cooking show with rotating CIA chefs displaying various techniques would also be high on the list.

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          paulj May 19, 2011 01:57 PM

          CIA does have some videos on Youtube
          http://www.ciaculinaryintelligence.com/

          CreateTV has played Chefs Story from French Culinary Institute featuring various guest chefs

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        wattacetti May 18, 2011 05:00 PM

        Hiroyuki Sakai doing mise en place demos. The man is amazing with a knife. Or Rokusaburo Michiba with fish.

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          ediblover May 19, 2011 02:54 PM

          Just need a host. Chef is random, with a different one each one. Place is a random home (unrelated to the host and chef).

          Premise is for the host, chef and homeowner to come together and create a meal, using the ingredients and tools already in the kitchen (if there is a kitchen). The story aspect would be provided by both the chef and the owner; it's great since it changes every show. I'd love it since the limits make it fun and it gives insight into the processes that go into the unique processes of planning and creating a meal. The human aspect is great since each new chef and owner would have great stories to share.

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            paulj May 19, 2011 03:06 PM

            Sounds a bit like Gordon Elliott's Doorknock Dinners which were on FN when I started watching it (late 1990s). Elliott is now producer for shows like Paula Dean.

          2. ChefJune May 20, 2011 08:26 AM

            I LOVED the way back series(s) Great Chefs of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, New Orleans, where each episode they went into a restaurant kitchen in the designated city and the chef prepared some of his or her signature dishes.

            They didn't do them as restaurant dishes, but had adapted them for the home cook. I have all those books and still cook from them. It was the first time I ever saw Lidia Bastianich, and a whole host of other chefs who are now legendary.

            I would love to see shows like that again.

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              paulj May 20, 2011 09:44 AM

              http://www.greatchefs.com/
              sells the DVDs

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                ChefJune May 20, 2011 10:57 AM

                I know, but I would like to see a similar show with 2011's Top Toques: Ripert, Boulud, Vongerichten, Batali, Mendes, Goin, Achatz, Mantuano, Des Jardins... you get the drift.

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                  paulj May 20, 2011 11:28 AM

                  Some of those have their own PR machines, whether PBS programs or books.

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              melo7 May 20, 2011 09:06 AM

              A filmed version of Pepin's La Technique.

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                paulj May 20, 2011 09:39 AM

                Or if that is too expensive, reprint it as a flipbook. :)

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                  paulj May 26, 2011 12:07 PM

                  http://www.kqed.org/w/completepepin/
                  derives from his 1997 Jacques Pépin's Cooking Techniques.

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                  aynrandgirl May 25, 2011 08:47 PM

                  Cooking for Engineers. A show that delves into food science when presenting recipes and techniques, like Good Eats, but without the silly props and goofy characters. Now that Good Eats is off the air nobody does much of "why" on their shows.

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                    natewrites May 26, 2011 07:31 PM

                    Isn't there something already like that on PBS? I can't remember the name of it, but the host wears a little bow tie and reminds me of Orville Redenbocker.

                    I'd like to see a show on cooking for one. There are millions of single people, retirees, widows/widowers, college students, you name it.

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                      paulj May 26, 2011 07:36 PM

                      You are thinking of Americas Test Kitchen, which has been publishing a magazine and books with their own refinements of recipes. They do have the occasional segment explaining so bit of food science.

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                    HillJ May 26, 2011 02:18 PM

                    http://www.localharvest.org/csa/
                    I'd like this website to be the basis of a show.

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                      paulj May 26, 2011 06:13 PM

                      I don't know if it's quite on the same line, but CreateTV has Endless Feast
                      http://www.createtv.com/CreateProgram...
                      where a feast is put on in various parts of the North America, using local produce and people.

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                        HillJ May 26, 2011 07:03 PM

                        No, not quite what I was getting at, paulj. I literally mean the people behind Local Harvest. Thank you for identifying Endless Feast, I wasn't familiar w/it.

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                      jlhinwa Jun 5, 2011 05:15 PM

                      Just saw this post referenced in the thread about what FN shows to retire. I like the idea of coming up with an ideal rather than criticizing existing shows (though I could come up with a good list).

                      This may not appeal to the CHers or even the general FN viewing public, but I would love to see a show geared towards kids. Something that teaches younger viewers about how to cook and enjoy lots of different foods in a non-condescending way.

                      A couple of years ago on the Next Food Network Star, they had a challenge that involved the contestants working with a kid in the kitchen and then presenting it. There were a couple of contestants who did a really great job with the kids and made lovely kid-friendly meals that were not the standard restaurant kids-menu items.

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                        HillJ Jun 5, 2011 05:28 PM

                        http://www.kids-cancook.org/media.html

                        Have you seen the online video show, Kids Can Cook of Tucson? It's worth a look!

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                          jlhinwa Jun 5, 2011 05:32 PM

                          No, I have not seen that before. Thank you very much for sharing. My daughter and I will have to check it out!.

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                            HillJ Jun 5, 2011 05:35 PM

                            http://cookingwithkids.net/

                            This resource is a bit more academic in approach but informative and fun out of NM. The videos might be fun to watch and the recipes very approachable for young cooks. Enjoy!

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                              jlhinwa Jun 5, 2011 10:15 PM

                              Thanks so much! This is great. My daughter is a little afraid of the kitchen so I have been looking for ways to get her engaged without making it a chore for her. She loves watching the NFNS and Chopped with me but I'd love for her to see something that is geared for kids.

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                          paulj Jun 5, 2011 05:57 PM

                          CreateTV has shown Chefs A' Field: Kids on the Farm

                          http://www.createtv.com/CreateProgram...

                          Some cooking shows, mainly on PBS, include the chef's children - though some strongly negative threads about that practice (esp. re. Bayless and Pepin).

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                            jlhinwa Jun 5, 2011 10:18 PM

                            Thanks! Another one to check out.

                            I could see that some some viewers having children of the chef could range from mildly annoying to wildly aggravating. For me it would depend on if they were being shown in a legitimate educational capacity or were just there for a perceived "cute" factor.

                        3. choctastic Jun 7, 2011 09:36 AM

                          I'd love to see a really good and easy vegan cooking show, run by someone who actually is entertaining. Also, preferably male and attractive. LOL. No vegan biker chicks pls, ugh.

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                            paulj Jun 7, 2011 10:08 AM

                            So Christina on CreateTV doesn't quite fit the bill? :)

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                              petek Jun 7, 2011 11:02 AM

                              Pepin and Ramsey cooking and flirting with the Playboy Bunnies at Hef's mansion.......
                              That's a show i would never miss..ever! :-D

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                                choctastic Jun 7, 2011 02:30 PM

                                She's fine, but your original post asked about one's dream cooking show...

                                --hate to say this but hot and male is kinda key for me. just sayin

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                                  paulj Jun 7, 2011 02:41 PM

                                  do you mean guys like NadiaG's sidekicks? :)

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