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novella May 18, 2011 02:33 PM

My parents are coming to town from San Francisco (so they are used to great food) and want to eat in a fabulous NYC restaurant. Price isn't an issue. I'm looking for incredible food and beautiful atmosphere. A special NY experience. San Francisco does the small, low-key restaurant with exceptional food quite well. I would like this to be more of NYC experience. We will be a party of six and would also like a place where we can enjoy great wine and conversation. I have tried Marea and can't get a reservation for the time we want. Thanks for your input!!

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Marea
240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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    nmprisons May 18, 2011 02:48 PM

    When is this? Most of the "price isn't an issue" places will be booked if it is anytime soon. I assume if Marea is already full, you are talking the next couple of weeks. That presumably rules out Per Se. With that off my list, I would probably look to EMP or consider heading out to Stone Barns.

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    Per Se
    10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

    Marea
    240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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      novella May 18, 2011 02:53 PM

      Yes, in two weeks. My father won't take a reservation after 7:30pm. Although I would love Stone Barns he would be annoyed by the drive. Have always wanted to try EMP but one of the couples joining us just went for there anniversary. We did Per Se last time they were here! Thanks for your suggestions however.

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      Per Se
      10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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        nmprisons May 18, 2011 03:00 PM

        This feels like throwing darts . . .

        The Modern?
        GT?
        Gotham?
        La Grenouille

        Those four scream NY to me.

        Corton or Craft, maybe.

        Other than expensive food, what are you looking for?

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        Gramercy Tavern
        42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

        The Modern
        9 West 53rd Street, New York, NY 10019

        Gotham Bar and Grill
        12 East 12th Street, New York, NY 10003

        Craft
        43 E. 19th St., New York, NY 10003

        La Grenouille
        3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

        Corton
        239 West Broadway, New York, NY 10013

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          RGR May 18, 2011 03:10 PM

          My suggestion would be SHO Shaun Hergatt. We've been there three times and have found the food to be incredibly delicious, including the tasting menu we had two weeks ago. My husband has done wine pairings each time (I don't drink) and came away very satisfied. Service is pleasant and professional, and I think the space is quite beautiful. SHO has not been getting the patronage it truly deserves because of its location in the FiDi, so you should not have any difficulty getting a reservation at short notice.

          SHO photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157626669210098/

          and here (includes shots of the space): http://www.flickr.com/photos/11863391@N03/sets/72157622498126890/

          http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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            rrems May 18, 2011 04:53 PM

            I've been to SHO a number of times and I agree that they are doing some of the best food in Manhattan right now. When we ate there last week, it was not very busy. Opentable does not list availability for 6 but I suggest giving them a call.

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              buttertart May 19, 2011 12:41 PM

              Our lunch at SHO a few weeks ago was more enjoyable than our dinner at The Modern last week was, and never in a million years did I think that would be the case (not because SHO wasn't great, because our prior experiences at The Modern had been so stellar). Can't wait to go back to SHO.

            2. re: novella
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              H Manning May 18, 2011 03:10 PM

              If you like seafood:

              Masa
              Le Bernardin
              Brooklyn Fare

              If you want a broader menu:

              Daniel
              Jean Georges
              Corton

              If you want high end Italian, like Marea:

              Ai Fiori
              Lincoln
              Babbo
              Scarpetta
              Del Posto (though I haven't been there yet)

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              Babbo
              110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

              Jean Georges
              1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

              Le Bernardin
              155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

              Scarpetta
              355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

              Corton
              239 West Broadway, New York, NY 10013

              Masa
              10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

              Lincoln
              142 W 65th St, New York, NY 10023

              Ai Fiori
              400 5th Ave, New York, NY 10018

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                deepfry7 May 19, 2011 05:11 PM

                You won't be able to get into Brooklyn Fare for 6 people.

                I second Daniel. I think it's the most beautiful restaurant in NYC. If I had to eliminate EMP and Per Se, it'd be either Daniel or Le Bernardin (don't care for the space, but the food is fantastic).

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                Per Se
                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                Le Bernardin
                155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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                kathryn May 18, 2011 04:01 PM

                If you can eat at 6:30 or 7pm that may actually work in your favor.

                Have you done a quick search on OpenTable to see who has availability? Plug in 6, 7pm, and the date of your choice, then sort by price, decreasing. That often helps me just to see who might have space. Especially since a lot of restaurants will have very few tables for 6. It's not perfect but will give you at least an expectation of who has tables available.

            3. ellenost May 18, 2011 06:17 PM

              I highly recommend Bouley. I think you'll be very happy with it: beautiful decor, delicious food and attentive service. Bouley has just redone their downstairs dining room, and it's stunning. My family just celebrated Mother's Day in the downstairs dining room (my request), and we were very happy. You should call them to check as to whether they are available.

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              Bouley
              163 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

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                AubWah May 18, 2011 07:31 PM

                I would play it cool and go to Babbo

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                Babbo
                110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

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                  ellenost May 19, 2011 03:28 AM

                  Probably no availability at Babbo.

                2. sgordon May 19, 2011 08:47 AM

                  Well, if price is truly no issue - Masa.

                  If maybe it's an issue for Masa-level prices, I'd do Eleven Madison Park. Or, as someone above suggested, maybe take the trip up to Stone Barns if that's an option.

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                  Eleven Madison Park
                  11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

                  Masa
                  10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

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                    RGR May 19, 2011 08:52 AM

                    Upthread (second post), novella said that EMP was out because one couple in their party has just been there. And Stone Barns is a no-go because her father would object to the schlep.

                    http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                      uwsister May 20, 2011 08:33 AM

                      Masa for me too, for sure.

                    2. Spiritchaser May 19, 2011 03:36 PM

                      Picholine?

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                      Picholine
                      35 West 64th St., New York, NY 10023

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                        novella May 19, 2011 06:14 PM

                        Thank you everyone for these great suggestions. Given I need a reservation at 7pm in two weeks I'm not having any luck with any of them!

                        I have a reservation at Jean Georges at The Mark Hotel. Seems a bit staid to me. Any thoughts?

                        What about other more neighborhood restaurants that aren't on the tourist circuit? Lupa is one of my favorite all time restaurants but looking for a bit of a step up from there. Any thoughts? Thanks again!!

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                        Lupa
                        170 Thompson Street, New York, NY 10012

                        Jean Georges
                        1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

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                          rrems May 19, 2011 06:27 PM

                          I just had dinner last night at La Silhouette, my second time there. I just checked Opentable and it looks completely open at this point. The quality of food is very high. The chef worked at Daniel and the owners at Le Bernardin. It's fairly new and a bit under the radar. I would highly recommend it.

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                          La Silhouette
                          362 W 53rd St, New York, NY 10019

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                            RGR May 19, 2011 07:17 PM

                            Exactly what date are you looking for?

                            ETA: Btw, if you are using OpenTable, many restaurants do not put tables for 6 on it. You have to call directly.

                            http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                            1. re: novella
                              buttertart May 20, 2011 08:57 AM

                              Not even SHO? Do call them, they've never been full when I've been there.

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                                RGR May 20, 2011 10:08 AM

                                I have to say I, too, was surprised -- shocked, actually -- that SHO couldn't accommodate them. It's never been even close to full when we've been there. That's why I suggested that instead of relying on OpenTable, a direct call to the restaurant should be made.

                                http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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                              unionsquareyes May 19, 2011 07:50 PM

                              I'd eat the kobe beef appetizer at Japonica every day, seven days a week, if I could afford to.

                              I really would. Here's a picture of an udon I had there recently. I like to photograph dishes or spaces where I love eating.

                              It's not a "sexy" space, moreover, it's quite unpretentious and basic, but their kitchen knows what the heck they're doing.

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                              Japonica
                              100 University Place, New York, NY 10003

                               
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                                kathryn May 19, 2011 08:24 PM

                                The OP is seeking incredible food and beautiful atmosphere. Japonica doesn't fit the bill, especially since they were considering Eleven Madison Park and Marea, and visited Per Se previously. Completely different league of restaurants.

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                                Per Se
                                10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                                Eleven Madison Park
                                11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

                                Marea
                                240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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                                mahler5 May 21, 2011 04:02 PM

                                La Grenouille. It's incredibly beautiful and the food (high-end French) is exquisite. I'm sure that they could accommodate 6.

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                                La Grenouille
                                3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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