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The Raymond, South Pasadena

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mc michael May 16, 2011 10:43 AM

The last time I had eaten here was about a dozen years ago. In that era, the feature of the restaurant was four or five courses at a set price. The food was just so-so. Went last evening. The interior seems much the same. Now, the food is better, just more expensive. There a quite a few places these days that can give you a salad or app, a meat or fish main, a good dessert and some wine if you want, for a price. This one just happens to be in a craftsman. Others would be AKA Bistro, Bistro 45, Red White & Bluezz, Vertical, etc. It's certainly a step up from what it was and the food is good, but there's nothing edgy here.

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Red White & Bluezz
70 S Raymond Ave, Pasadena, CA 91105

Bistro 45
45 S Mentor Ave, Pasadena, CA 91106

  1. ipsedixit May 16, 2011 08:01 PM

    I like The Raymond, esp. since their re-boot and the makeover in the kitchen.

    In and around So. Pas and Pasadena, there aren't that many better options. Better options? Sure. Many that are better. Nope.

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      mc michael May 16, 2011 09:43 PM

      I respect your view, but after a while my eyes get blurry seeing the same fish filets more less done the same way and the same meat mains with cabernet reductions. Followed by some fllourless chocolate dessert. Whatever. Yes, the Raymond is better, and it's about time and one-half the price. I guess I have to travel.

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        ipsedixit May 16, 2011 09:56 PM

        Pasadena is what it is. A monotonous culinary wasteland, with one or two exceptions shining like oases in the desert (e.g. Euro Pane).

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          mc michael May 16, 2011 09:57 PM

          fortunately, it's close to China.

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            ipsedixit May 16, 2011 10:02 PM

            ... and parts of Mexico and Central America.

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              mc michael May 16, 2011 10:19 PM

              lol

    2. Will Owen May 16, 2011 06:33 PM

      We've been to The Raymond a few times over the past year, but only to have cocktails in the 1887 Bar. There, the service ranges from merely friendly to superb, and the "cook" always knows what he or she is doing! We have been tempted to try the bar-food offerings, but haven't done that yet. Maybe the bar can pull the rest of the place up a bit …

      1. The Oracle May 16, 2011 12:44 PM

        Couldn't agree more. I've been meaning to write a review after Mother's Day brunch. The food was ok - but not worth the prices (IMO). The server we had was atrocious and I chalked it up to it being a 'holiday' - but you'd think even on a bad day, they'd be nicer to mom's on Mother's Day!!

        Portion sizes were adequate but on the small side (and plated on huge plates).

        The last time I'd been there was for dinner a few years back. The food was fine, with lack-luster service and high prices - nothing so special that I'd want to return.

        My brunch experience reminded me ol that dinner experience - the food is ok but the overall experience (food+service+atmosphere) it's simply not worth the price point. I think the only thing that draws people in is the novelty of the craftsman. Being a Pasadena native, that isn't a draw for me at all. Tourists/Visitors wanting that type of experience are better off having brunch elsewhere and going for a Gamble house tour!

        On a side note, I'd been wanting to experience their newish 1886 bar, but after the brunch experience, there's no way I'd give them any more business.

        1 soup, 1 sandwich, 1 egg dish, 1 tea, 1 glass of champagne: $59 pre tip.

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          Peripatetic May 16, 2011 06:25 PM

          > 1 soup, 1 sandwich, 1 egg dish, 1 tea, 1 glass of champagne: $59 pre tip.

          Ouch. Sound a lot like my experience at Elements Kitchen: okay food at stellar prices. The service is good at Elements, though.

          I remember reading reading that the ownership of the Raymond changed last year:

          http://pasadenanow.com/main/the-raymo...

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            PandanExpress May 17, 2011 12:19 PM

            I've never had the bar food, but have had drinks at 1886 bar and their drinks are pretty good for that side of town. When we don't want to drive all the way downtown for a nicely stirred drink, 1886 is perfect.

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