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Critique my NYC itinerary

Hi,

New to the forum. I'm going to be in New York for five days and have assembled this list out of the recommendations I've read, both here and elsewhere. The main principle is to cast as wide a net over the food scene in NYC, so I'm trying to get balance as well as essential box ticking.

This is what I've got planned

Friday night: Dinosaur BBQ
Saturday lunch: Katz Deli
Saturday dinner: The National Restaurant, Brighton Beach for farcical entertainment (Bourdain was raving)
Sunday lunch: Pies and Thighs
Sunday dinner: Babbo (have a rez)
Monday lunch: Candlelight Inn for wings
Monday dinner: Daniel *
Tuesday lunch: Xian famous foods
Tuesday dinner: Fatty Cue
Wednesday breakfast: Shake Shack

* Have seen many suggestions to swap this to Cafe Boulud, which I intend to do today.

I'm particularly up for altering Tuesday; for instance, if I can get an EMP rez for lunch as there seems to be consensus that that's totally amazing.

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Cafe Boulud
20 East 76th St., New York, NY 10021

Babbo
110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

Dinosaur Bar-B-Que
777 W. 125th Street, New York, NY 10027

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  1. You beat me to my first suggestion - swapping out Daniel for CB.

    I would do Cafe Glechik in Brighton Beach instead of The National (I think AB went there as well) - perhaps less entertainment, but the food is great.

    I'm sure there are more interesting options than Candlelight Inn (you could do lox at Russ & Daughters, Borscht at Veselka, pork buns at Momofuku... any number of other great options) - or, if you do switch up Tuesday and do EMP for lunch, make Monday your Xi'an Famous day (Xi'an should not be missed). Go to the Chinatown branch (way less crowded since the EV one opened), get some "burgers" and noodles and eat them at the tables in the East Broadway Mall among the locals and ginseng dealers.

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    Russ & Daughters
    179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

    Veselka
    144 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

    Momofuku Noodle Bar
    171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

    Xi'an Famous Foods
    88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

    1. Agree with sgordon about Candlelight Inn. NYC is not known for wings. And you'll be having fried chicken for lunch the day previous!

      Why not one of the ones he mentioned or one of our famous pizza places? Or Prune? The Spotted Pig or the Breslin?

      Also there's going to be two branches of Xian Foods in Chinatown soon. One near the East Broadway Mall and a new one opening on May 21st that is at 67 Bayard Street.

      Also consider RGR's famous self-guided Lower East Side Gustatory Tour, which begins at Katz's (for pastrami, of course) and includes Russ & Daughters, the Doughnut Plant, and several other tasty stops.

      LES Gustatory Tour: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/493333

      Note two changes: Guss's Pickles has closed, so substitute The Pickle Guys, on Essex just off Grand. And the correct address for Economy Candy is 108, not 145.

      BTW Shake Shack doesn't open until 11am, so not what sure time you wanted to have breakfast there....

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      Russ & Daughters
      179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

      Pickle Guys
      49 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

      Spotted Pig
      314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

      Doughnut Plant
      379 Grand St, New York, NY 10002

      Prune
      54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

      Economy Candy
      108 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

      The Breslin
      20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

      Xi'an Famous Foods
      67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

      1. The National in Brighton Beach will be a hoot...depends on what you're looking for, but I love Winter Garden on the boardwalk, particularly if the weather is nice enough to eat outside. Very good fresh fish and Russian specialties. For Russian/Ukrainian specialties in Manhattan I far prefer Ukrainian East Village Restaurant to Veselka.

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        Ukrainian East Village Restaurant
        140 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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        1. re: City Kid

          Stick with the National. You're not going for the food. It's a real experience.'

          I do like Glechik for the food.

            1. re: pancreas

              Yes I believe so. And if you know a Russian speaker, have them do it.

        2. You don't say when you are coming here, but now that EMP has won the James Beard Awards for Outstanding Restaurant and Best Pastry Chef, it's going to be very difficult to secure a lunch reservation at short notice. (Before receiving these accolades, if one was willing to have lunch around 1:30 - 2 p.m., a table was often available even the day of.) You can call and be put on the wait list. Or you can do a walk-in. A table could be available due to a last-minute cancelation. If not, you can eat at the bar where the lunch menu is the same as in the dining room.

          I'm glad to see that you are switching to Cafe Boulud, one of our favorites. Chef Gavin Kaysen is cooking some of the best food in the city right now, and we recently had two sensational dinners there.

          http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

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          1. re: RGR

            Thanks so much to those who have replied. I'll certainly do the LES gastro walk and will probably jettison the Candlelight in favour of one of the great suggestions. Daniel changed to CB.

            1. re: pancreas

              Unless I'm missing something, the Candlelight Inn famous for wings is in Scarsdale, Westchester. Not NYC. It's quite good but if you're coming to NYC for just a short period, I definitely wouldn't bother making the schlep there.

          2. Pies and Thighs isn't going to blow you away, but if you're dead set on this one, look into the Commodore, by the original chef/partner.

            Shake Shack is another one you could swap out. You have it slotted for breakfast, so considering your list of comfort food Southern slanted interests, I would look into Peels for their build your own biscuit menu.

            As a substitute for a burger that's nothing like the fast food from Shake Shack, check out Diner, or Henry Public.

            Fatty Cue should cover your bbq needs honestly, so two Harlem suggestions in place of Dinosaur are Red Rooster, and Amy Ruth's.

            Katz's as an experience is beyond compare, but for an actually good Jewish style deli sandwich, you would be better off hitting up Miles End on that same Saturday you're going to Brighton.

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            Amy Ruth's
            113 W 116th St, New York, NY 10026

            Shake Shack
            Madison Ave and E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010

            Peels
            325 Bowery, New York, NY 10003

            Red Rooster
            310 Lenox Ave, New York, NY 10027

            1. Where are you from?

              NYC also more standout other ethnic stuff, Indian, Korean,Japanese, African, Caribbean, etc., that are pretty good and palate opening.

              I'd say Pies and Thighs seems less urgent. M Wells might be a worth replacer for Pies and Thighs or Fatty Cue. Other than that, decent list.

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              1. re: villainx

                Thanks, villainx, should have mentioned. I'm from London. So I suspect I don't really need the whole British w/American twist thing; nor Indian as that is something we do actually do rather well across the entire spectrum. I've eaten Korean, Japanese, Af & Carib a few times, so it would be a case of whether to recommend any because they were totally exceptional.

                Actually, thinking about it, I've never had Filipino and I've noticed there are a few highly rated in NY. Purple Yam?

                And of course, the Mexican we get in London is utterly embryonic at the moment, although things are improving. Mesa Coyoacan sounded good? My initial reaction is for authentic Mex, rather than Cal-Mex. (I realise this is a minefield.)

                OK. I'll swap Shake Shack for Peels and put Candelight and Pies up for grabs. I'll also try to make a decision between Dinosaur and Fatty Cue. That should give me enough space for a Mex, Filipino or Pizza if recommended.

                1. re: pancreas

                  In that case, some kind of configurations that goes M Wells, hop on 7 for stops through Roosevelt Ave, I'm not an outer borough expert but Taqueria Coatzingo or Tortilleria Nixtamal are probably surest must stops, maybe swing by Corona Ice, then either head to Flushing Chinatown for Chinese or Korean.

                  Flushing Chinatown would allow you to try the older outpost of Xian, as well as pretty cool snacking/sightseeing at either of the Flushing main Chinese food malls. Or some other kind of Chinese.

                  When you say you've had Korean does that include the anju type places? More unusual Korean is their version of fried chicken or the seafood pot at Sik Gaek. I guess you don't necessarily have to go to Flushing (or beyond) for that, as their are suppose to be outposts in Manhattan and closer to Manhattan Queens too.

                  There are suppose to be some Filipino places in Queens too, but can't say to quality.

                  If it also might be that you are going to be close to a Shake Shack anyway ... and you like ice cream, get some frozen custard. It's more of an upstate NY thing, but frozen custard is so good in general. And Shake Shack does it pretty well.

                  1. re: pancreas

                    Pies 'n' Thighs has exceptional fried chicken IMO so I would keep it.

                    Really you probably only need one Southern, one burger, and one BBQ. Pies 'n' Thighs, Shake Shack, and Dinosaur sound fine to me.

                    I'd drop Fatty Cue as it's not really American BBQ anyway, and you have a limited time here.

                    Better to get some Mexican or pizza. And a proper breakfast on your last day.

                    How about:

                    Friday night: Dinosaur BBQ
                    Saturday lunch: RGR's LES walking tour incl. Russ & Daughters, Katz Deli, etc.
                    Saturday dinner: The National Restaurant, Brighton Beach for farcical entertainment (Bourdain was raving)
                    Sunday lunch: Pies and Thighs
                    Sunday dinner: Babbo
                    Monday lunch: Shake Shack
                    Monday dinner: Cafe Boulud
                    Tuesday lunch: Xian famous foods
                    Tuesday dinner: Pizza
                    Wednesday breakfast: Clinton St Baking Company

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                    Clinton Street Baking Co.
                    4 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

                    1. re: kathryn

                      kathryn,

                      Re: my tour. A couple of places on my tour are closed on Saturday due to religious observance.

                      Re: Shake Shack. In order to avoid the exceedingly long lines, it's best to arrive a few minutes before they open at 11 a.m.

                      http://thewizardofrorz.wordpress.com

                      1. re: RGR

                        Plus the lines for the custards and a few of the other items are usually on the shorter line. If one was the skip the burger.

                    2. re: pancreas

                      Kuma Inn is an upscale Filipino fusion option that's building a reputation. Purple Yam can sometimes feel pretty out of the way from most starting points.

                      If you add pizza, Keste would be a good choice.

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                      Kuma Inn
                      113 Ludlow St, New York, NY 10002

                      Keste Pizza & Vino
                      271 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

                      1. re: sugartoof

                        I wouldn't describe Kuma Inn as that upscale. The kitchen is kind of open, no tableclothes, most patrons in t-shirts and jeans...

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                        Kuma Inn
                        113 Ludlow St, New York, NY 10002

                        1. re: kathryn

                          Sure, but I meant their approach to the food. It's not fine dining, no.

                      2. re: pancreas

                        -- since you are coming from London, avoid all Manhattan Indian food -- it's awful...(Durbar in Notting Hill is my fav upscale-ish Indian in London, and none of the lauded NY Indian places are anywhere near that good)...

                        -- i would however consider adding a Japanese dinner or lunch to your trip...London options are quite weak compared to NYC, and we have a variety here you might enjoy: Aburiya Kinnosuke for upscale seafood izakaya, Sakagura for sake/izakaya, Soba Totto or Soba Koh for soba, Ippudo for ramen, Ushi Wakamaru for sushi...i've eaten pretty much everywhere in London for Japanese and nothing comes close to NY...

                        -- since you have the Babbo reservation i suppose it's set in stone, but me, i would have sent you to Scarpetta instead...(imho, Batali is for chavs :)

                        -- normally i'd say go to Grand Central Oyster Bar and sit at the counter for raw oysters, but London has NYC beat on raw oysters many times over: Wright Bros, Randall&Aubin, etc etc...i think the London oyster selection is spectacular...

                        -- consider Maialino for a random brunch or bar dinner...i loved the lamb chops Scottadito there...and the fried Bacala...and i hear their brunch is yummy too...

                        Enjoy your trip and report back :)

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                        SobaKoh
                        309 E 5th St, New York, NY 10003

                        Babbo
                        110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                        Grand Central Oyster Bar
                        89 E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017

                        Aburiya Kinnosuke
                        213 E 45th St, New York, NY 10017

                        Sakagura
                        211 East 43rd Street, New York, NY 10017

                        Ushiwakamaru
                        136 W Houston St, New York, NY 10012

                        Soba Totto
                        211 E 43rd St, New York, NY 10017

                        Ippudo
                        65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

                        Scarpetta
                        355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

                        Maialino
                        2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

                    3. I'd swap Fette Sau for either BBQ place. I'd also add Momofuku Ssam bar to my list for lunch or dinner and I would make my way to M. Wells for either brunch or dinner. Since they are only open for dinner Tuesday through Thursday, brunch might be easier. It's a very short subway ride from Grand Central Station.

                      M. Wells
                      21-17 49th Ave
                      Long Island City, NY 11101
                      (718) 425-6917

                      Fette Sau
                      354 Metropolitan Ave
                      (between 4th St & Havemeyer St)
                      Brooklyn, NY 11211
                      (718) 963-3404

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                      Momofuku Ssam Bar
                      207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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                      1. re: deesher

                        Ssam Bar is no longer serving lunch.

                        1. re: gutsofsteel

                          Ssam Bar is still serving lunch in the adjacent space formerly occupied by Milk Bar, featuring a new duck menu during weekdays.
                          http://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/s...

                          1. re: Riverman500

                            Yes I know that - but it's not "lunch at Ssam Bar" as the OP might have been expecting from posts past...

                        2. re: deesher

                          For the "full" Ssam Bar experience, do dinner.

                          I might do dinner Tuesday night at M. Wells. That way OP can make a reservation and skip the long brunch lines.

                        3. Report.

                          Things couldn't have kicked off any better than with a visit to Dinosaur. That it's sited dramatically the other side of a bridge that seems to channel the essence of the Industrial Revolution only helps to set the scene for an orgy of guilty carnal satiation. A meaty temple in a bleak metallic dystopia, if you will. We started with some explosive IPAs while the table became available. The only thing we didn't like was the Mac and Cheese, our UK prejudices running to edicts such as that cheese should not come in a flavour that can only be described as 'orange'. The wings were fantastic, sweet, sticky and delicious; but the blue cheese dip made it. There were other nice things, but what really excited were the ribs, which secreted a deep sweet smoke flavour that was all the more surprising (to us) for how incredibly delicate it was. As a general point, there seems to be a way with meat here that leaves it way more tender and subtly flavoured than anything I've experienced anywhere else in the world. Possible exception of duck confit.

                          RGR's tour is justly famous. Again the delicate & tender came together in the fantastic pastrami sandwich of Katz Deli. It's so delicately flavoured in fact, that I'd skip the mustard in future. We have Salt Beef sandwiches in the UK, of course, but none manages to achieve the melting perfection of what we tried there. Russ and Daughters' imperious, amiably snooty counter staff provided us with some fantastic smoked salmon and lightly picked herring. I failed to follow orders and got a Cherry Egg Cream from Ray's instead of the chocolate, but it was nonetheless nice (I subsequently tried to return but found that I'd wandered through a film set and there was an actress behind the counter who didn't know how to make them--true story). Rather more extraordinary was my salted peanut butter cake doughnut from Doughnut World/Planet/Factory or whatever near Kossar's. I took one bite of a Kossar's bialy. I'm afraid I can't get behind the heavy doughy Jewish breads. They're like what I imagine astronauts eat, because they have to, rather than that they want to. The Pickle Guys' half sour was gorgeous. Didn't make it to the Gelato place, unfortunately.

                          For dinner we tried the new outpost of XIan in Chinatown. Lamb face was probably more work than it was worth given that we were picking cheek bones out of our teeth for half an hour afterwards. I visited Xian (the place in China) for a few days a few years ago and as far as I approximate the experience as Sichuan + Cumin, the Famous Food here seemed authentic, and certainly delicious. (I was going to go to the National but with only the two of us, I wasn't sure it was the ideal outing. So we watched the Air Sex Championship instead, which was excruciating at best.)

                          Pies and thighs was the order for lunch. Delicious chicken, of course, but what really stood out was the biscuit. I've had 'biscuits' before, though only from one of those cans you sort of unwrap. Normally they're compared to british scones, but based on this one I think they're actually rather closer to a much older creation known as the 'baked suet pudding'. I would have guessed this one had cheese in it? In any case, it was extremely moreish and very good.

                          We cancelled our ridiculously late 10:45 Babbo reservation and I allowed myself to get waylaid by a friend of a friend who doesn't research restaurants with quite the insanity that I do. We ended up in a decent but unremarkable Argentinian restaurant called Nina. Crispy deep pan pizza and decent steaks but I wasn't blown away. Very subtle and juicy empanadas though.

                          Lunch the next day was Shake Shack, which had been described to me as 'a McDonald's, but good'. I do think this is an accurate description in that the bun is exceptionally sweet, the cheese orange and the patty itself very hammy, as if cured/brined. The whole thing disappears in a delicious mouthful or two. Hot dog was unremarkable but for the very squidgy sweet potato bun--perhaps it was nice--I make no evaluation. A frozen custard shake sank the whole thing very successfully. Perhaps I still need to have a good burger with a little more texture?

                          For dinner we went to Café Boulud and had the tasting menu, devised apparently on the fly by the chef. Unexpectedly, I wasn't blown away, I'm afraid. As with so many upscale places, of which I may be becoming jaded, I just don't think it's worth the expense. There's something so generic about the fine dining experience that it could be happening anywhere--this sentiment has, of course, been expressed before. The savoury jelly, the deep-fried knickknack, the pea puree, the pommes puree made with 50% butter, the micro-greens... They're everywhere and it's all the same. That's not to say there weren't some standout dishes, such as a perfect mushroom risotto and two splendid desserts, one kumquat-based and pithy as hell and one rich chocolate one sitting on a pistachio cake. The wines served in the flight were also pretty generic, (we tasted them blind and got quite a few more-or-less right...) For what we spent, which was more than a tasting menu with wine at the Gavroche in London, a few things also simply weren't right. The waiters, of whom there were not enough, did not know enough about the food, seemed overfamiliar by way of attempt to cover up incompetence, and the distance between tables didn't stretch to more than five inches (meaning we spent half the evening listening to a barrage of self-satisfied yet impotent 'business prospects' that some Jewish guy was explaining loudly to his mother on what appeared to be her birthday, while his girlfriend of Asian extraction sat mute next to him--the whole thing as ridiculous as it was annoying). Anyway, given the amount that is going through the till, the lack of personal space strikes me as very greedy. I think in future I would either go super-experimental like Momofoku Ko (if I could get in) or simply not bother with the top end.

                          From this point I'm on my own. Lunch at Momofoku Ssam bar. On recommendation I eschewed the pork buns in favour of the rotisserie duck on rice. It's clearly amazing, as were all the accoutrements on the table, most of which I couldn't identify. But I definitely suspect some foul play with the duck. The breast was so tender as to have the texture of spam. And there's no way you can perfectly roast a whole duck and somehow have the legs falling off the bone and the breasts still perfectly pink. I reckon they brine the breast somehow leaving the legs sticking out, simmer/sous vide the whole thing for hours/days and then crisp up the skin on the rotisserie. (Happy to be corrected.)

                          Finally it was Fette Sau for dinner. This is a total marvel of a place. Stinking with personality. You feel whipped back in time/place to 19th Century Midwest America. The radio's playing Country and Western; fantastic mucking-in mess-style seating; sarsaparilla in a big jug on the counter. I could totally imagine someone plucking out bluegrass on a steel string guitar and people jumping on the tables. And the food! Seems squarely aimed at a purist market. None of the caramelisation of Dinosaur in action, it's all smoked with a dry rub that gives it a funky, evocative taste of hot dry summer days. Also, it was interesting that the barbecue sauce is totally devoid of sugar, and is really quite hot. The mustard, similarly. I found I could concoct a good lubrication by mixing them both together with some ketchup. Anyway, it's a brilliant place and I'd be very proud to have something as special as that in any city I lived in.

                          A last word for a great bar, 61 local, on Bergen street. Great beers, lovely staff, and a very comfortable venue with no bloody TVs.

                          Oh, and PS Sarabeth's bakery in Chelsea Market served the best Palmier I've had outside France, possibly ever.

                          Thanks to all those who helped with recommendations. Certainly you all helped make this a gastrotour to remember.

                          David

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                          Katz's Delicatessen
                          205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                          Kossar's Bialys
                          367 Grand St, New York, NY 10002

                          Pickle Guys
                          49 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

                          Babbo
                          110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

                          Sarabeth's Bakery
                          75 9th Ave, New York, NY 10011

                          Ray's Candy Store
                          113 Ave A, New York, NY 10009

                          Nina's
                          1750 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10128

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                          1. re: pancreas

                            Although Cafe Boulud has several fans on this board, I agree with you that the food is not particularly noteworthy or creatve. For what it's worth, the restaurant doesn't represent the best of fine dining in NYC, but thanks for the review. Fette Sau, Pies & Thighs and Dinosaur are now on my list of places to try.

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                            Cafe Boulud
                            20 East 76th St., New York, NY 10021

                            1. re: pancreas

                              A very well-written, detailed report, David. Thanks for the kind words about my tour. I'm pleased that you enjoyed it.

                              I am disappointed that you didn't share my enthusiasm for Cafe Boulud's cuisine (a case of chacun à son goût) though I am very surprised that you found the wait staff wanting. As for the close spacing of the tables, because of the cost of real estate, even at high end restaurants, with very few exceptions, it's the way things are in NY.

                              Btw, if you go to Ko, it's counter seating on hard, backless benches.

                              http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                            2. OK, here's my two cents for dinner:
                              Pearl Oyster Bar and Wallse.
                              Both of these places are impeccable.

                              If you get to Flushing, there is a wonderful hole-in-the-wall for dumplings - "White Bear."

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                              Pearl Oyster Bar
                              18 Cornelia St, New York, NY 10014

                              Wallse
                              344 W. 11th St., New York, NY 10014

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                              1. re: lafouchow

                                pancreas has been and is gone. Based on the time stamps, you may not have seen his report before you posted your suggestions.

                                http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                                  1. re: lafouchow

                                    That's not to say that your suggestions are not good ones. :) It sounds as though there will be a next time for him....

                                    http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                              2. Candellight inn isnt in Manhattan and should be skipped.. .

                                Pie and Thighs is a pretty average place in brooklyn... There are many better friend chicken options.. If you are looking to go to Brooklyn, Brooklyn Bowl would be a good option.. Mitchells is my favorite fried chicken in Brooklyn, though Popeyes is better than Pies and THighs..

                                Dinosaur BBQ is not that great a spot.. In terms of BBQ Blue Smoke, Daisy May, or Fette Sau (brooklyn) are better options.. Fatty Cue I dislike because of the attitude and because of the disconnect between the guy smoking the meat and the kitchen adding it's Malaysian flavors.. But mostly because of the horrific snobbiness of the place..

                                I would tell you to make a reservation at M. Wells for dinner, the place is super interesting. I also like Spotted Pig and the Breslin..

                                Also in Brooklyn news, might be fun for you to head on over to Smorgasburg on a Sunday when you come in...

                                My favorite lunch in the city, Jeans Georges.

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                                Jean Georges
                                1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

                                Spotted Pig
                                314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

                                Blue Smoke
                                116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

                                Dinosaur Bar-B-Que
                                777 W. 125th Street, New York, NY 10027

                                The Breslin
                                20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

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                                1. re: Daniel76

                                  i must disagree about dinosaur. i like it better than either daisy may or blue smoke

                                  1. re: Daniel76

                                    Daniel76, the OP actually came and went already so it's probably a bit late for your suggestions (but not for other people reading this). I will note that I find Brooklyn Bowl and Blue Ribbon's fried chicken to be much drier than Pies 'n' Thighs, and Daisy May's BBQ can be overly sauced and/or too salty at times.

                                    Also Smogasburg is only on Saturdays.
                                    http://www.brooklynflea.com/smorgasburg/

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                                    Daisy May's BBQ
                                    623 11th Ave, New York, NY 10036

                                    1. re: kathryn

                                      We haven't been to Daisy May's since the summer of '09. The St. Louis ribs were too dry and wa-a-a-ay too salty! The Kansas City ribs were much better. I didn't find them over-sauced. In fact, I requested additional sauce. But the problem with that is they keep the little cups of extra bbq sauce in the frig. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that putting ice cold bbq sauce on warm ribs is not a good idea.

                                      http://thewizardofroz.wordpress.com

                                      1. re: kathryn

                                        must be personal opinion as my visits to Pies and THighs were very disappointing.. I really suggest going to Mitchells if you are in Brooklyn. And I personally believe the Daisy May's is the best BBQ in the city.. I am pretty into BBQ having competed in Memphis and May and various regional BBQ tournaments, I have never had an issue with salt or saucing...

                                        Also, I am pretty sure, as I live a block a way, that Brooklyn Flea is in Clinton HIl on Saturdays and in Williamsburg on Sundays.. But this message is confusing.

                                        "The Flea's next phase starts this weekend, when our new Smorgasburg food market brings together New York State Greenmarket farmers and top New York City purveyors and chefs on the spectacular Williamsburg waterfront every Saturday starting May 21. Smorgasburg adds to the Flea's weekly market lineup—Saturdays in Fort Greene, Sundays in Williamsburg—"

                                        1. re: Daniel76

                                          You wrote:
                                          > might be fun for you to head on over to Smorgasburg on a Sunday

                                          I was just pointing out that Smogasburg (slightly different from the Brooklyn Flea in that it is only food vendors) was on Saturdays, not Sundays.

                                          Brooklyn Flea - Fort Greene
                                          Saturday
                                          10am-5pm, Rain or Shine
                                          176 Lafayette Ave. (btw. Clermont + Vanderbilt Ave.)

                                          Brooklyn Flea - Williamsburg
                                          Sunday
                                          10am-5pm, Rain or Shine
                                          27 North 6th St. (btw. Kent Ave. + East River)

                                          Smorgasburg
                                          Saturday
                                          9am-5pm, Rain or Shine | Opens May 21, 2011
                                          27 North 6th St. (btw. Kent Ave. + East River)

                                    2. I have to say that after reading your intended foodie journey, the thought came to me that you are very adventurous. I hope you get to hit all the great spots. I use to make creative lists and found out that I never hardly hit any of them. I either did lunch or dinner at a restaurant I wanted to try out.
                                      I will wait for your report after this event happens. Enjoy New York.