Detroit /SE MIchigan's own board ???? [moved from Great Lakes board]
I am also strongly in support of a Detroit Metro board. It can be very confusing to visit CH, looking for a specific suburb of this huge metro area, having to wade through posts from OH, IN, etc... especially if one is just visiting the area. Detroit has so many suburbs, and even having lived here for a few years now, I still can't necessarily identify them all. I actually think this would stimulate growth and unity among Detroit metro CH posters (and more efficiently help those planning to visit the area).
SE Michigan: Calling out.. CQ, CQ, DX (attention caller Long distance) We can and will generate enough traffic on the SE Michigan channel but Jacq...?L?. has been vague and whatever.
The board obviously wants our support or they couldn't sell content advertising. We have three choises. 1. withdraw to another more friendly forum. I couldn't Yellow another idea that met that criteria but it may exist. 2. express our distaste for being a focused enthused group that is included in the larger area that wants its' own voice by posting vociferously and drowning out those welcome but minor players and 3. Get a SE Michigan board. It seems so simple as MSP has a board for a few devoted foodies that stay inside in the winter..(joking).
After this idiot NY rep. puts his frankfurter in his pants we hope to expect that CH mods will finally realize we love the forum. WE SUPPORT CH> think about it....just a little...We have rebuilt Detroit. CH SE Michigan will be a cake walk.
There is a Google group called GUDetroit that everyone could join and post at also. The people are great, very welcoming, many involved in local businesses and most/all posts are about the Metro Detroit area restaurants, food trends, events going on. It is a very welcoming group and won't censor opinions or links. They also have a facebook group and website with a blog and have a lot of fun food/drink centric events. There is a potluck picnic this weekend on Belle Isle. Check it out if you're looking for more SE Michigan dedicated posts.
I haven't been trying to be vague, but the information I've given you is what information I have. We generally don't add boards in a one-off fashion, so we're not going to create a Detroit board as a direct result of a thread like this.
With the increase in posts about Detroit since the last time we did a major board resplit, it will definitely be on our list of places to consider for the next round of board changes, but I don't know when that will take place.
We don't really make decisions on new boards to create on a one-off basis. I'll put this on my list of possibilities for the next round of new board creation (though I start by looking at most populated metro areas without their own boards, so it would have been on the list anyway).
According to the U.S. Dept. of Management and Budget, the Detroit Metro area is the 12th most populated in the U.S
- that's bigger than places like MSP, Seattle, Phoenix, Las Vegas, Austin and San Diego that you've given their own boards. So I am not sure how you missed us the last time!
MSP got its own board because we are a postypants bunch who pretty much overran the old Midwest board. You'd open the board and see 12 MSP threads then a Detroit thread, a Cleveland thread and 10 more MSP threads. I think that had more to do with the decision for an MSP board than population.
re: MplsM ary
curious, wouldnt it be better to have a Minnesota Board, rather than having non-MAP Minnesota go on a huge Great Lakes board? In a state with only one major Metro area, that would (it seems to me) be a reasonable solution. At least it would be totally clear what Board to go to, which is not the case now. Michigan similarly.
re: jen kalb
re: MplsM ary
I couldnt agree more. there are communities everywhere who would grow if appropriate area definitions were created.
Midwest or Great Lakes would be fine if it was just a matter of discussion by non-local people (like a travel board), roadfood for example, but once locals are involved, as they should be, the definitions and geographical info that enable people to talk and find info in specific communities really start to matter.
I would add community-fostering to te list of things that Chowhound's managers have not been very good at. Still and all, Im still here. I just wish that bottom up initiatives from the many people investing energy here could be fostered better.. As it is we have to wait for the Gods to speak, sometimes its good and sometimes we just scratch our heads.
>> the Detroit Metro area is the 12th most populated in the U.S
I don't speak for the Chowhound Team, but it seems to me that metropolitan areas deserve their own boards based on how much content is posted about them in their corresponding regional forum. Some cities may have more people but others may have more posts, due to a more active group of Chowhounders and/or more food offerings. For example, Cincinnati and Kansas City both have about the same number of people (2.0 million metro area) but you'll find a lot more posts about KC on the Great Plains forum than you will about Cinci on Great Lakes.
Getting back to Detroit... there are a lot of posts about the Detroit area on Great Lakes, and I think it deserves its own forum. The only question in my mind is whether or not to include Windsor as part of the Metro Detroit forum. ;)
I didn't miss considering Detroit last time, but population is not a big part of the deciding factors on where to create new boards -- it's just a place to start. Detroit was considered, but there were only a small number of posts about Detroit prior to the last board split, so a board for Detroit wasn't added.
I just hpe CH keeps the dialog open with participants before making decisions.
Things like where people spend their weekends could logically be factored in, for example. Fostering growth of a community and giving people certainty about where to post and look for info are both really high values.
I'll do my best to fix that...more posting! My guess is Jacquilynne doesn't know the names of Detroit suburbs because she's likely never been here and it's so much bigger than Minneapolis She might be confused about subjects titled "Novi/Farmington Hills", "Livonia", "Troy" etc. Everyone, if you are posting anything regarding southeast Michigan, please preface your posts with DTW first, to help illustrate the point. My guess is that she might have been looking for the word "Detroit" in posts when she found only a small number of posts. Per my recollection, we had just as many as the Twin Cities before the split, that's why I had been scratching my head about it. And Jacquilynne, if you would like to visit Detroit some time, we'd all love to take you out for lunch! Thanks for your hard work on Chowhound!
I do search for a variety of suburb and neighborhood names when looking to get a sense of how many posts we had about each metro area. I may not get them all, but I don't limit myself to searching simply the name of a given city. I also come at the problem from the other direction -- looking directly at a subset of the posts, and assigning them to cities based on content, to sanity check the numbers I find in other ways.
That said, I do encourage you to preface your posts with Detroit or another indicator that they're about Detroit, as that will help other people who are looking for them.
We had a small band who pretty much required that any MSP post be tagged as MSP in the title. You can ask a mod to change the title in order to encourage cooperation. Suddenly I feel like I should be twirling a Snidely Whiplash moustache.
When the old Midwest board had at least 3 Bloomingtons and 3 Us of M it was important to differentiate the MSP threads and a few of us were vigilant.
In trying to remember how many states the old Midwest board covered I did a search and found this musty old thread talking about breaking up the Midwest board: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/120601 Interesting.
> only a small number of posts about Detroit prior to the last board split,
> so a board for Detroit wasn't added.
Where or to whom do I send a list of the SE Michigan communities that we've
been posting about? Awww; WTH, here's the list:
SAINT CLAIR SHORES
I'm less in support of this than having MSP & Chicago boards come back UNDER Great Lakes. I think the issue is we're ticked MSP and some smaller cities have their own space -- positioning the Great Lakes (which, BTW is SOOO much better than "midwest" that included Arkansas AND Nebraska!) is good thing for all of us in the region -- lots more to discover in what's often consider "flyover" country. I say critical mass for Great Lakes.
I strongly support this suggestion. When a metro area has a lot of posts on a regional board, it deserves its own board. That way, local residents as well as visitors can go there when they're looking for advice in that city.
The last time Chowhound restructured the regional boards, new boards were created for some cities (including Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle, Atlanta) while other, equally-deserving cities were ignored. The Detroit Area has been very active and deserves to have its own board separate from the Great Lakes forum. Other metro areas that deserve their own boards include Cleveland (currently on Great Lakes), St. Louis and Kansas City (currently on Great Plains), and the Triangle Area of North Carolina (currently on Southeast). Shockingly, the suburbs of New York City don't have their own board and are currently thrown in with the rest of the states in which they're located - a travesty that still needs to be addressed.
Yup, I'm a big Vikings fan. But, I do get kind of bummed when people post about distant MSP suburbs on the Great Lakes board. If it doesn't belong on the MSP board, then it CERTAINLY doesn't belong on a board primarily frequented by Indianapolis/Cleveland/Detroit folk. Please.
And, while I enjoy sunny Phoenix, I must say that the post traffic (not to pick a fight over food quality), is obviously greater in the Motor City.
In any event, love the board. Just offering "continuous improvement" thoughts.