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having spent some time in nyc lately, i have to say that rosenfelds in newton, aquits itself quite well in the bagel arena. while not as good as the best ( partial to absolute bagles at 108th) the days of great bagel shops all over manhattan seem to be over. maybe too hard a life, maybe family run joints have gotten into another line of work. in point of fact, i believe absolute is run by a thai family with a central american workstaff. katz's in chelsea does a fine job too but thats about it. odd, as there seems to be a lot more decent bread around in recent years but bagels seem to be a dying art.
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re: hyde
Many of the better NYC bagel stores are operated by Thais now. And I agree, you are much better off with fresh bagels from Rosenfelds or Katz's than with aged products from H&H, which is decidedly mediocre. Not sure why it has such a good reputation -- is it that Seinfeld episode where Kramer was still on strike from H&H after 11 years?
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As far as I know. I picked some up to freeze last weekend (haven't had any yet), and they looked identical to the last time I bought them (a few years back), and I was told then that they were H&H.
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re: kimfair1
Re: the frozen Montreal bagels. I think you are thinking of Walnut St Market in Newton Highlands. They have fozen Montreal bagels, frozen smoked meat from Montreal (I think that's what it's called but anyway, it's delicious) and terrific whitefish salad. Do call ahead though because often enough they are out of one or more of them.
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re: teezeetoo
I think it shows you how bad the bagel situation is up here, I had never heard of HH until I got up here from NY, pretty good for up here, not as good as the go to local store in NY. Yes there are bad bagels in NY, you just need to know where the "good" ones are, if there isn't a line out the door on a weekend morning pass them by.
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re: FoodDabbler
sorry, as with all things it's a matter of taste. it's kind of a ny mourning ritual to decry the loss of the bagel and even Kosar's doesn't make bialies like they used to. to each his own: I dislike H & H bagels, as do most of my NY native friends. I much prefer Rosenfelds and my favorite bagels come from Marvin's Great Barrington Bagels, oddly enough. H & H has lots of fans. I'm not one of them.
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