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7 days of eating in NYC

Hi, I'll be visiting NYC from Australia for seven days next wek. This is our (my girlfriend and I) first time to NYC but have prioritised food above sightseeing and shopping.

Having spent the last 2 weeks researching on what the must-eats are in NYC, I have compiled a daily schedule below.

The restaurants where I've booked are marked with an * and the rest I am still finalising as I'm trying to match the location of the restaurant to where we'll be going for sightseeing.

Given it's first visit to NYC, we'll be doing a lot of sightseeing so will have to plan the schedule meticulously as I'm expecting long queues to most of the tourist hotspots.

Tuesday
Dinner - Hard Rock Cafe (closest to our hotel due to jet lag from 22 hour flight)

Wednesday
Breakfast - Pastis (Brioche French toast)
Lunch - *Le Bernardin
Dinner - Ippudo
Dessert - Spot Dessert Bar

Thursday
Breakfast - Undecided
Lunch - *Del Posto
Snack - Gray's Papaya (Hot Dog & Papaya drink to share)
Dinner - *Café Boulud (tasting)
Dessert - No (stomach) room for dessert

Friday
Breakfast - DB Bistro Moderne
Lunch - *Eleven Madison Park
Snack - Peter Pan (Donut to share)
Dinner - *WD-50 (tasting)
Dessert - No (stomach) room for dessert

Saturday
Breakfast - Jane (Crème-brulee battered French toast)
Lunch - *Jean Georges
Dinner - Keens
Dessert - need to find another one (potentially Momofuku milkbar)

Sunday
Breakfast - Nougatine (big brekkie)
Lunch - day long trip to Woodbury Commons (shopping) so no food plans
Snack - Redhead fried chicken (to share)
Dinner - Momofuku Noodle Bar
Yankees baseball match
Dessert - Chikalicious Dessert bar

Monday
Breakfast - undecided
Lunch -*River Café
Snack - RGR's LES food excursion Katz (Pastrimi to share)
Russ & Daughters (Bagel & Lox to share)
Yonah Schimmel's (Potato knish to share)
Belgian Fries (Ray's) - chocolate egg cream drink to share
Kossar's (baked bialys)
Gus's World Famous Pickles (pickle)
Il Laboratorio del Gelato (gelato to share)
Dinner - Motorino EV / Lombardi's / Blue Smoke (tough decision)
Dessert -

Tuesday
Breakfast - Undecided
Depart NYC

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated as I am still working through the many lists posted in the many threads. Would like to find more brekkie places closer to where our hotel is (53rd St, 7th Ave), am still going through kathryn's list.

A big thank you to everyone for all their replies that have helped me put together the above list!

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Russ & Daughters
179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

DB Bistro Moderne
55 West 44th Street, New York, NY 10036

Momofuku Noodle Bar
171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

Blue Smoke
116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

Gray's Papaya
402 6th Ave, New York, NY 10014

Ippudo
65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

Hard Rock Cafe
1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

Nougatine
1 Central Park West, New York, NY 10023

Spot Dessert Bar
13 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

Motorino
349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

Il Laboratorio del Gelato
188 Ludlow St, New York, NY 10002

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  1. Are there any signature dishes from the above restaurants that I should order when dining? Am currently studying the menus of Le Bernardin, EMP, Jean Georges, Del Posto and River Cafe.

    So far, I have:
    - Whole roasted duck for two at EMP
    - Foie gras brulée and the warm chocolate cake at Jean Georges.

    Also just saw from RGR's post that Gus's World Famous Pickles has closed so will go to The Pickle Guys instead.

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    Pickle Guys
    49 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

    Jean Georges
    1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

    Del Posto
    85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

    Le Bernardin
    155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

    3 Replies
    1. re: ausfoodie

      Jean Georges - in addition to the foie gras brulee, try the tuna ribbons, skate with Chateau Chalon sauce, scallops with cauliflower, and the chicken confit with parmesan crust.

      Le Bernardin - if you're ordering a la carte, you can't go wrong with any of the items featured in the tasting menus, particularly the tuna with foie gras and the octopus with fermented black bean. The surf and turf preparations are also very nice. For dessert, I've enjoyed the Citrus and the Chocolate-Peanut.

      Also look into Kyotofu. Cafe Sabarsky (or Cafe Fledermaus), The Modern Bar Room, Bouchon Bakery, and Lady M as a dessert spots in addition to Momofuku Milk Bar.

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      Kyotofu
      705 9th Ave, New York, NY 10019

      Bouchon Bakery
      10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

      Jean Georges
      1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

      Le Bernardin
      155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

      Cafe Sabarsky
      1048 5th Ave, New York, NY 10028

      Momofuku Milk Bar
      15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

      1. re: Riverman500

        Bouchon Bakery and Lady M are not open very late, so perhaps not the best for post-dinner dessert.

        2nd Kyotofu and the Bar Room at the Modern.

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        Kyotofu
        705 9th Ave, New York, NY 10019

        Bouchon Bakery
        10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

        1. re: Riverman500

          Not sure if it was mentioned on your previous post, but the dessert egg is something that can be requested at Le Bernardin. It is excellent.

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          Le Bernardin
          155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

      2. You're going to have a brilliant week, that's for sure.

        Only thing I might change is to sub Momofuku Ssam Bar for Noodle Bar - not that you wouldn't have a grand meal at either one, just Ssam is a bit more esoteric in their offerings and aims a little higher.

        Also, not sure how you're going to go from Momofuku to a Yankees game only to come BACK to the East Village for Chickalicious. Seems like quite a bit of travelling. Besides, the concessions are FAR better at Citi Field (Mets stadium) - if you're going to take in a game... that's the place to go.

        I probably wouldn't do River Cafe for lunch, either. I find them overpriced, and unless you're going to get that "river at sunset" ambience, not really worth it. Also, it'd be a bit out of the way, unless you were going to walk back to Manhattan over the Brooklyn Bridge. Besides, the LES food tour will take up quite a bit of the afternoon, it would count as "lunch" as you'll wind up eating quite a bit.

        10 Replies
        1. re: sgordon

          agree with the recommendation to do ssam over noodle bar, and the recommendation not to go up to yankee stadium and back down to the EV for chickalicious. the desserts at momofuku are great--i've had wonderful ice creams and truffle size cakes--and i prefer them over chickalicious.

          would skip yonah schimmel: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/224578
          and as others have noted, gus's is no longer at that location. go to the pickle guys (which i've always preferred), across essex from kossar's, instead.

            1. re: tpigeon

              +2 on yonah. Blech.

              Would also skip the duck at EMP.

          1. re: sgordon

            while I would in no way shape or form suggest going to a mets game over a yankees game...a stop for Dim Sum in Flushing prior to a Mets game would make a nice 1-2.

            Also, going from the East Village to Yankee Stadium and back to the East Village is not as daunting as it sounds. Since you would take the 4 train it is a rather easy trip and actually does not take that long.

            1. re: Yaxpac

              If we're talking about the 5/15 (Sunday) game against the Red Sox, that starts at 8pm. Chikalicious Dessert Bar closes at 10:45pm. My concern would be getting there before they stop seating and/or before they cut off the line (if there is one).

            2. re: sgordon

              Thanks sgordon, I am taking Chickalicious out as it may well be closed by the time we come back from the Yankees game as kathryn mentioned. I've already purchased tickets for the match so wont be able to fit in a Mets game as well.

              Will move Chickalicious to another time slot.

              Will look at Momofuku Ssam Bar, is it much harder to get a table here for walkups compared to Noodle Bar? We are looking forward to the ramen there as we love Japanese noodles (ramen, udon, soba)

              River Cafe is purely for the view of Brooklyn bridge and Manhattan - am not expecting much food wise. We were planning to walk over the Brooklyn Bridge after the meal.

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              Momofuku Ssam Bar
              207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

              1. re: ausfoodie

                You could also stop somewhere and grab some sweets from Chikalicious Dessert Club (their takeout place) before you head on up to the Bronx for the game. (PS here in the states, it's a baseball "game," not a baseball "match" :).

                If you love ramen, Momofuku Noodle Bar will pale in comparison to Ippudo. Momofuku Ssam Bar has a bigger capacity than Momofuku Noodle Bar, so your wait for a seat (counter or table) will probably be shorter unless you insist on a table and not two seats at the counter. Neither take reservations except for special large party meals.

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                Momofuku Ssam Bar
                207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

                Momofuku Noodle Bar
                171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                Dessert Club, ChikaLicious
                204 E 10th St, New York, NY 10003

                Ippudo
                65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

                1. re: ausfoodie

                  I worry that the interior atmosphere of River Cafe may be disappointing as well. It's a bit like country club dining, in a bit of a depressing way. There's nothing hip or fashionable or exciting about the place. I would eat on this side of the river and maybe have an ice cream at The Brooklyn Ice Cream factory on the other side.

                  1. re: Nancy S.

                    Thanks for the headsup Nancy - have decided to cancel the meals at Hard Rock Cafe and River Cafe.

                    Are there any restsaurants in Brooklyn that offer a view of the Brooklyn bridge or Manhattan? It does not have to be fine dining food, in fact, I prefer if it wasn't. If we can't find anything, we'll take in the views at the Brooklyn Bridge promenade instead.

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                    Hard Rock Cafe
                    1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                  2. re: ausfoodie

                    You should have a backup plan for River Cafe/walking over the Brooklyn Bridge after the meal, in case it's raining.

                2. I would try to find another place besides Hard Rock Cafe and I would skip River Cafe. Both, to me, would be disappointing. How about on Monday have breakfast at Peels or Locande Verde and work your way uptown, stopping at good eats along the way. For your first dinner, how about The Bar Room at the Modern. It's exponentially better than the semi-fast food you will have at The Hard Rock Cafe.

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                  Hard Rock Cafe
                  1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                  1 Reply
                  1. re: Nancy S.

                    I concur. HRC is a tourist trap, and River Cafe is all view (so-so food, great view though...).

                  2. Meant to also add: surprised no Japanese made it to the list, IIRC you were considering Kyo Ya or Soto? I'd sooner do one of those Monday night (you'd be nearby KY already, after the LES tour), or instead of Keen's - as great as Keen's is, mind you, it's just steak. You can get dry-aged steaks where you're from, I imagine. No matter how good a steakhouse is, it's never going to really be an "only in NYC" experience, at least not food-wise.

                    Also, a Japanese meal could be a respite - one night you won't need to pop an extra Lipitor.

                    That said, if you're going to do a steakhouse, Keen's is the one.

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                    Soto
                    357 6th Avenue, New York, NY 10014

                    Kyo Ya
                    94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

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                    1. re: sgordon

                      I think the two restaurants or places that were questionable from my list were the two you pointed out. River Cafe is purely for the view, and Hard Rock Cafe is because of the convenience as we would both be pretty jet lagged from a long flight - will look for other restaurants nearby instead. The Bar Room at Modern is actually very close so may go with that.

                      sgordon, couldn't get a booking for Kyo Ya so might leave this for the next time we visit.

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                      Kyo Ya
                      94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

                      Hard Rock Cafe
                      1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                      1. re: sgordon

                        Great choices you have made. Specific raising and aging make the steak in US different, not necessarily better but different enough that it should be tried, Keens is perfect for that. If Bkfst at Balthazar, as Kathryn mentioned get the panier, or bread basket, best there is. As others have said skip Shimmel, mere shadow what it used to be. Barney Greengrass is simply amazing and perfect. What a great bonus for you is, as you are aware, our currency currently sucks and yours benefits dramatically thus you get a bargain to boot.

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                        Barney Greengrass
                        541 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10024

                        Yonah Schimmel's Knishes
                        137 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                        Balthazar
                        80 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

                      2. > Dinner - Hard Rock Cafe (closest to our hotel due to jet lag from 22 hour flight)

                        What time do you get in? The easier thing might be to get delivery. That way you can check into the hotel, get comfy in the room, and pick up the phone to order dinner.

                        I'd personally do Szechuan Gourmet. More ideas:
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/757095

                        > Wednesday
                        > Breakfast - Pastis (Brioche French toast
                        )> Lunch - *Le Bernardin
                        > Dinner - Ippudo
                        > Dessert - Spot Dessert Bar

                        You could also do Otto, and get some gelato at the bar. Or cupcakes or some soft serve at Chikalicious Dessert Club. Or walk over to Bleecker Street (stroll through Washington Square Park, it's not very far) for cake at Amy's bread, gelato at L'arte de Gelato, banana pudding or ice box cake at Magnolia Bakery, or macarons and other French pastries at Boise Tea Parlor. These are all open fairly late though I'm not sure exactly when Boise closes (call and ask?).

                        > Thursday
                        > Breakfast - Undecided
                        > Lunch - *Del Posto
                        > Snack - Gray's Papaya (Hot Dog & Papaya drink to share)
                        > Dinner - *Café Boulud (tasting)
                        > Dessert - No (stomach) room for dessert

                        I'd do Locanda Verde, the Breslin, Shopsin's (assuming you follow "the rules"), or Clinton St Baking Co for a weekday breakfast. Especially because for the latter three, the waits are much shorter on weekdays.

                        Or you could do more of a light breakfast of only pastries at Patisserie Claude, Ceci-Cela, City Bakery or Birdbath, or the Doughnut Plant (order the cake doughnuts only).

                        It's going to be tough to find a lot of great breakfast places near your hotel since Midtown doesn't have the same concentration of residents as downtown. It's more office workers.

                        > Friday
                        > Breakfast - DB Bistro Moderne
                        > Lunch - *Eleven Madison Park
                        > Snack - Peter Pan (Donut to share)
                        > Dinner - *WD-50 (tasting)
                        > Dessert - No (stomach) room for dessert

                        Same comment for breakfast. Be careful not to wear yourself out this day! WD-50 and EMP on the same day would be challenging, especially if you get the tasting at both.

                        If you do have space for dessert, know that Dessert Truck works is nearby.

                        > Saturday
                        > Breakfast - Jane (Crème-brulee battered French toast)

                        Jane's Saturday menu is a lot shorter than the Sunday one, BTW. On Saturdays they serve more of a lunch menu. Sundays is proper brunch.

                        Minetta Tavern has excellent French toast as well, BTW, and a much more creative menu. I'd reserve there or Locanda Verde, ASAP for Saturday brunch.

                        > Lunch - *Jean Georges
                        > Dinner - Keens
                        > Dessert - need to find another one (potentially Momofuku milkbar)

                        Why not stay and have dessert at Keens?

                        > Sunday
                        > Breakfast - Nougatine (big brekkie)

                        I wouldn't waste a breakfast at Nougatine when you have better places in town to have breakfast/brunch. If the problem is timing, like you want to eat around 8am, try:

                        Balthazar - continental breakfast starts at 8am
                        Breslin - opens at 7am
                        Peels - opens at 7am
                        Locanda Verde - breakfast at 8am, brunch at 10am

                        > Snack - Redhead fried chicken (to share)

                        I don't think Redhead opens until 5:30pm. What time is your snack?

                        > Dinner - Momofuku Noodle Bar
                        > Yankees baseball match
                        > Dessert - Chikalicious Dessert bar

                        You should put your itinerary into Google Map's trip planner or something to see if this is actually doable given travel time. What time does the game start? How long do you plan to stay? This seems like you're going to burn yourself out by the time you get back from the game!

                        > Monday
                        > Breakfast - undecided
                        > Lunch -*River Café
                        > Snack - RGR's LES food excursion Katz (Pastrimi to share)
                        > Russ & Daughters (Bagel & Lox to share)
                        > Yonah Schimmel's (Potato knish to share)
                        > Belgian Fries (Ray's) - chocolate egg cream drink to share
                        > Kossar's (baked bialys)
                        > Gus's World Famous Pickles (pickle)
                        > Il Laboratorio del Gelato (gelato to share)
                        > Dinner - Motorino EV / Lombardi's / Blue Smoke (tough decision)
                        > Dessert -

                        Motorino, and stay for the tiramisu?
                        http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2010/0...

                        > Tuesday
                        > Breakfast - Undecided
                        > Depart NYC

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                        WD-50
                        50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                        Russ & Daughters
                        179 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                        Patisserie Claude
                        187 W 4th St, New York, NY 10014

                        Ceci-Cela
                        55 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

                        DB Bistro Moderne
                        55 West 44th Street, New York, NY 10036

                        Minetta Tavern
                        113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

                        City Bakery
                        3 W 18th St, New York, NY 10011

                        Szechuan Gourmet
                        21 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018

                        Momofuku Noodle Bar
                        171 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

                        Blue Smoke
                        116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

                        Gray's Papaya
                        2090 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

                        Ippudo
                        65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

                        Locanda Verde
                        377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

                        Hard Rock Cafe
                        1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                        Bleecker Street Bar
                        56 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10012

                        Nougatine
                        1 Central Park West, New York, NY 10023

                        The Breslin
                        20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

                        Spot Dessert Bar
                        13 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

                        Motorino
                        349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                        Il Laboratorio del Gelato
                        188 Ludlow St, New York, NY 10002

                        Doughnut Plant
                        220 W 23rd St, New York, NY 10011

                        11 Replies
                        1. re: kathryn

                          The tiramisu at Motorino is excellent. I have had it many times.

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                          Motorino
                          349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                          1. re: kathryn

                            For one of your undecided breakfasts, how about Saravanaas? I don't know how good the Southern Indian food is where you live, but this is one of the best places in the US to try authentic idli, sambar, and the coconut chutney (+ a cup of sweet coffee, Southern India style).

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                            Saravanaas
                            81 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

                            1. re: kathryn

                              > What time do you get in? The easier thing might be to get delivery. That way you can check into the hotel, get comfy in the room, and pick up the phone to order dinner.

                              We actually get to JFK at 2pm, so would probably get to our hotel around 4-5pm depending on customs/traffic. After we check in, we'll explore the area and will be walking down to Planet Hollywood to pick up our NYC tour passes, hence why we picked Hard Rock as it was nearby.

                              > It's going to be tough to find a lot of great breakfast places near your hotel since Midtown doesn't have the same concentration of residents as downtown. It's more office workers.

                              Will look into the locations of the other places you've suggested. We are not picky with breakfast at all, the lighter the brekkie, the better. Neither of us are big eaters and I think we'll both be rather full from most of the lunch prix fixes we'll be doing. Are there many places where we can just buy pastries in Midtown?

                              > Same comment for breakfast. Be careful not to wear yourself out this day! WD-50 and EMP on the same day would be challenging, especially if you get the tasting at both.

                              > If you do have space for dessert, know that Dessert Truck works is nearby.

                              Will only be doing a light breakfast on this day. We are going for the 3 or 4 courser at EMP and then the tasting at WD-50, don't think we'll have space for dessert after that!

                              > I don't think Redhead opens until 5:30pm. What time is your snack?
                              You're right - Redhead opens at 5:30pm. Is it rude to just order the fried chicken to share between the two of us and leave after this? We plan to snack at Redhead at 5:30pm and then head straight to Momofuku for the noodles and then take the subway to the Yankees game (at 8pm).

                              > You should put your itinerary into Google Map's trip planner or something to see if this is actually doable given travel time. What time does the game start? How long do you plan to stay? This seems like you're going to burn yourself out by the time you get back from the game!

                              Have now taken out Chickalicious from our plan and we'll just take it easy given that the whole schedule up to now is quite intense.

                              > Motorino, and stay for the tiramisu?
                              Did not know about the tiramisu, will remember to order this.

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                              WD-50
                              50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                              Eleven Madison Park
                              11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

                              The Redhead
                              349 E 13th St, New York, NY 10003

                              Planet Hollywood
                              1540 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                              Hard Rock Cafe
                              1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                              Motorino
                              349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                              Dessert Truck Works
                              6 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

                              1. re: ausfoodie

                                The roasted beets with red onion, honey and soft boiled egg at Motorino is also excellent. It makes for a perfect first course.

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                                Motorino
                                349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                                1. re: Nancy S.

                                  We are both small eaters and always struggle to finish the tasting menu at the restaurants in Australia, so will probably have to skip the first course and go for the Pizza plus dessert. But the roasted beets do sound tempting!

                                2. re: ausfoodie

                                  There'll be a couple of (excellent) desserts as part of the WD-50 tasting, no reason to get seperate desserts afterwards, anyway. I'd actually suggest skipping the afternoon donut @ Peter Pan that day - between EMP & WD, maybe just do a lot of walking to get your metabolism going!

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                                  WD-50
                                  50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                                  1. re: sgordon

                                    Will keep this in mind - we will probably need the entire afternoon to digest the meal at EMP (!) before going for the tasting menu at WD-50.

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                                    WD-50
                                    50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

                                    1. re: ausfoodie

                                      For Friday

                                      Between EMP & WD, I'd suggest walking around LES. Falai's Panetteria is also very close to WD. Sweet Sugar Sunshine is also a decent cupcake & coffee spot. If you are heading to WD area around 6pm, you might get there early enough while Donut Plant and or Essex Market is still open (which is good for gourmet and ethnic snacks, or just walking around). Around WD there is plenty to walk around regardless to shop, window shop, people watch, etc.

                                      Also, not sure what your sightseeing itinerary is, landing at Union Square Greenmarket and walking to EMP, or after EMP and walking down to the USGM might be fun. Along the way from EMP and USGM is also Eataly, Shack Shake, ABC Home and Carpet, and Paragon Sports (for walking suggestions).

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                                      Union Square Greenmarket
                                      Broadway and E 17th St, New York, NY 10003

                                      Shake Shack
                                      Madison Ave and E 23rd St, New York, NY 10010

                                      Doughnut Plant
                                      379 Grand St, New York, NY 10002

                                      Sugar Sweet Sunshine
                                      126 Rivington St, New York, NY 10002

                                      Essex Street Market
                                      120 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

                                      Falai Panetteria
                                      79 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

                                      Eataly
                                      200 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

                                  2. re: ausfoodie

                                    Don't waste a meal at Hard Rock Cafe.

                                    If you're going to snack at Redhead, I'd order at the bar, and not take up a table. It's not a big place.

                                    For breakfast:
                                    Bouchon Bakery in Time Warner Center (59th and 8th) though they have a Rockefeller Center one opening any day now
                                    Wichcraft in Rockefeller Center or Bryant Park
                                    Petrossian (58th and 7th)
                                    Amy's Bread (bakery, 47th and 9th)
                                    Sarabeth's (59th and 6th)
                                    Sullivan Street Bakery (47th and 11th)

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                                    Sullivan Street Bakery
                                    533 W 47th St, New York, NY 10036

                                    Bouchon Bakery
                                    10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

                                    Amy's Bread
                                    672 9th Ave, New York, NY 10036

                                    Petrossian
                                    182 W 58th St, New York, NY 10019

                                    Hard Rock Cafe
                                    1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                                    1. re: kathryn

                                      Have decided to skip the meals at Hard Rock Cafe as well as River Cafe. I think its quite clear from the reviews I've read and responses here that the money used can be spent on much better food elsewhere.

                                      Assuming we get to the hotel by 4-5pm, we'll take the subway to 8 St NYU station and then choose between Ippudo or Momofuku noodle/Ssam bar for dinner and then either Spot or Chickalicious for dessert afterwards.

                                      I think this is a much better 1-2 combo for our first evening compared to Hard Rock Cafe!

                                      Thanks kathryn for the list of other brekkie places, we plan to eat light for brekkie on most days.

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                                      Ippudo
                                      65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                      Hard Rock Cafe
                                      1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                                      1. re: ausfoodie

                                        momofuku ssam is superior, in my opinion, to noodle bar. if you do choose ippudo, get there early, put your name on the list, and then go get some drinks nearby, and call them around the time they told you it would take (i recommend angels share for cocktails while waiting)

                                3. I've lived in NYC for 5 years and I'm jealous! This is a really ambitious and fun list, and I haven't eaten at many of these restaurants!

                                  All I can say is that between Blue Smoke and Motorino, I'd go with Motorino. But then I'm also a vegetarian, so I've never eaten the barbecue there, and so am probably not qualified to weigh in!

                                  (If you do go to Blue Smoke, their chopped salad is surprisingly delicious. Everything else I've eaten there was tongue-searingly salty, though.)

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                                  Blue Smoke
                                  116 East 27th Street, New York, NY 10016

                                  Motorino
                                  349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

                                  1. Please don't go to Hard Rock.

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                                    1. re: ttoommyy

                                      Agreed. A couple of good restaurants near the Hard Rock are Sushi Zen and Bar Room at Auerole. Or do as Kathryn suggests and order delivery.

                                    2. You really need to do something like barney greengrass and/or russ & daughters. Barney's Nova eggs and onions soft scrambled with two plain untoasted bagels on the side (to put eggs on pieces you break off), is still my favorite breakfast in the entire universe.

                                      You also need to got to Doughnut Plant.

                                      Edit - missed the R&D on monday. I think you should do greengrass too however for the dish described above.

                                      1. I think Bouchon Bakery will be perfect for breakfast option close to your hotel.

                                        Given where you're staying, I suggest you get some street meat from the Halal guys (53/6th). There's nothing like waiting in an obscenely long line to really get a feel of NYC.

                                        I think momofuku milk bar after Keens will be perfect for you. Walk over to 5th Ave, walk up 5th Ave to momo milk, then walk across back to your hotel. You'll get your sightseeing in as well.

                                        1. If you want to get out of Manhattan take the Number 7 train out to Queens, where is it elevated above roof height. Check out the suggestions on Chow for what is interesting out there, or just take the 7 back.

                                          1. My comment is that it looks like you've done a great job of sampling all sorts of places.

                                            Great job, congratulations, and I hope you have an awesome visit to NYC!

                                            1. Just wanted to get a better idea of how long the prix fixe lunch meals will usually go for at Le Bernardin, EMP, Jean Georges and Del Posto - I'm guessing it'll largely depend on our eating pace, but would 1.5-2 hours be a good estimate?

                                              This is so we can plan sightseeing attractions/tours into our schedule as well (and allow free time for potential delays e.g. traffic, long lines)

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                                              Jean Georges
                                              1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

                                              Del Posto
                                              85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                                              Le Bernardin
                                              155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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                                              1. re: ausfoodie

                                                That's a fair estimate, I find I can usually be out in 2 hours.
                                                I would also recommend Bouley - they do a $38 lunch tasting course Mon-Sat, and the interior is beautiful. Very reminiscent of Provence.
                                                If you like ramen, Hide-Ramen on 51st is also good, likewise Ippudo which is already on your list.
                                                Being an Aussie myself I have to mention SHO Shaun Hergatt (Aussie chef). Their lunch fixe prix is pretty decent too (though I have to say I prefer Bouley).
                                                Welcome fellow Aussie!

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                                                SHO Shaun Hergatt
                                                40 Broad St, New York, NY 10004

                                                Bouley
                                                163 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

                                                Hide-chan
                                                248 E 52nd St, New York, NY 10022

                                                1. re: lena2065

                                                  Thanks lena! Bouley was on my list initially, but as all the lunches were filled up by other restaurants, I did not have space left for it!

                                                  I've heard about SHO Shaun Hergatt, so will look into that too.

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                                                  SHO Shaun Hergatt
                                                  40 Broad St, New York, NY 10004

                                                2. re: ausfoodie

                                                  Can I ask how you are getting to Woodbury? Driving yourself, or bus? Wondering because maybe if you are getting there yourself, maybe some suggestions in the Bronx or Harlem, instead of coming back (like Dinosaur for BBQ, or some other options). If you have to come back to drop of your shopping booty (I think if you are heavy shoppers, the bus company or showing your passport at the info desk will give you a discount book), maybe switch the Keens dinner to an early dinner for Sunday (5:30?) and free up Saturday for other options.

                                                  When you are on your LES tour, Donut Plant, and tres leches or oatmeal donut are worthy tries.

                                                  1. re: villainx

                                                    We are taking the coach/bus from Port Authority in the morning and taking the coach back in the afternoon. Would it be difficult to get a table for 2 at Keens for an early dinner on Sunday, say around 5.30pm, without reservation?

                                                    Thanks for the additional palces for the LES tour - we are both small eaters so will do our best to fit as much food in as possible!

                                                    1. re: ausfoodie

                                                      Pre 6pm is probably the sweet spot in getting a table at most places. The only drawback would be the space won't be as bustling as it otherwise normally would be. On the other hand, that could definitely be a plus too.

                                                      But that would be a good time to fit Keens in, or one of the options near your hotel. Just thinking it'll either be too much running around from returning from shopping/dropping off your shopping loot and racing to make the match.

                                                      This way you can also fit in Redhead, Chickalicious, etc (or something else) on Saturday instead. I'd also add that instead of the fried chicken (or in addition), if you never had a lobster roll, Luke's on 7th Street should be a prime target.

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                                                      Keens
                                                      72 West 36th St., New York, NY 10018

                                                      ChikaLicious
                                                      203 E 10th St, New York, NY 10003

                                                      Luke's Lobster
                                                      93 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

                                                      1. re: villainx

                                                        i for one, am not crazy about the lobster roll at lukes. i found it underseasoned. i prefer pearl oyster bar

                                                        1. re: thew

                                                          Perfect enemy of the good?

                                                          It's a sorta unique American / Northeast American thing, and while Lukes ain't the best, I'd put it way above average, and among conversation with city's top version (Pearl is best in my book too). Plus it's convenient to the rest of the OP's itinerary that day.

                                                          Or basically, I wouldn't turn down a Luke's lobster roll if it was presented.

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                                                          Pearl Oyster Bar
                                                          18 Cornelia St, New York, NY 10014

                                                          1. re: villainx

                                                            I think at the price, Luke's is far, far, superior. But I'm from CT, originally, where a lobster roll tops out at $14. The near-$30 Pearl's (and a number of other places) charges is just ludicrous, and a rip-off IMHO.

                                                        2. re: villainx

                                                          I just checked out the OP's profile and they'll be in Boston for a few days, so a lobster roll here is probably unnecessary.

                                                  2. For Tuesday

                                                    Especially as you are getting in kinda early on Tuesday, it could be an idea to sneak in to an early dinner at some casual splurge place you wanted to go but didn't have time to fit in. Modern (bar or main room) seems like a good idea. Or Benoit. Marea.

                                                    Or casual comfort Japanese (ramen and such) at Menkuitei or (tonkatsu) at Katsuhama on 55th, or a pretty good burger at Burger Joint (only burgers, and the black and white milk shakes are pretty good), or Chinese at previous mentioned Szechuan. Or maybe some of the better food carts along Sixth Ave (Halal, or Halo Berlin, or something else).

                                                    Sorry, but getting the good middle tier places are usually harder versus naming low or high end. If you want to go corporate, Brooklyn Diner (on same 57th Street) might be a fun-er choice? And I think there is a Momofuku Milk Bar near you, so since you get in early enough, maybe you could head there for some sweets too. Petrossian on 7th Avenue is also a nice place to stop by for cookies and pastries (and probably breakfast)

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                                                    Burger Joint
                                                    118 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

                                                    Brooklyn Diner
                                                    212 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

                                                    Petrossian
                                                    182 W 58th St, New York, NY 10019

                                                    Marea
                                                    240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

                                                    Momofuku Milk Bar
                                                    251 E 13th St, New York, NY 10003

                                                    1. On a side note, are there restaurants which offers a view of Manhattan (skylin or Central park etc) that doesn't require advance reservation?

                                                      This could be a cafe (like Bouchon Cafe) or even a bar for drinks in the evening. So far, I think Jean Georges is the only restaurant from the list that has a view over Central Park. I have requested for window seating.

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                                                      Jean Georges
                                                      1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

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                                                      1. re: ausfoodie

                                                        The Jean George view isn't all that raised, so you don't get much more than what you would see from sidewalk level, across the street. Bouchon Bakery is situated in the middle of an almost mall like lobby, and I don't recall it having been windowside.

                                                        Asiate is supposed to have views.
                                                        The Standard Hotel along the highline offers views, and a rooftop bar.
                                                        Some of the midtown rooftop bars will have views of the Empire State Building. Gramercy Park Hotel, and Hotel Giraffe both come to mind.

                                                        Every other place I can think of has closed, and also keep in mind, the best views of the city will be from Brooklyn.

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                                                        Bouchon Bakery
                                                        10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

                                                        Jean Georges
                                                        1 Central Park W, New York, NY 10023

                                                        Asiate
                                                        80 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10023

                                                        Gramercy Park Hotel
                                                        2 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10010

                                                      2. Wednesday or Thursday

                                                        After Pastis preferably or before Del Posto, walking around the area for shopping/window shopping should be included. Maybe a brief stroll on the Highline. And a trip through Chelsea markets: different gourmet and ethnic eateries, snack places, grocery stores, and restaurants.

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                                                        Del Posto
                                                        85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

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                                                        1. re: villainx

                                                          +1
                                                          Definitely take a stroll on the Highline (an old elevated rail track converted to a beautiful park with wonderful views) after Del Posto.

                                                        2. My opinion, for what it's worth since people have already chimed in:

                                                          Do NOT go to the Hard Rock Cafe. This is not worth your time and certainly not worth the trip for authentic food. Since you are in the Times Square area, yes there are many low-quality touristy restaurants but that doesn't mean you can't find a good place within walking distance. You can walk to a place called Hagi from your restaurant. They have amazing Japanese dishes like yakitori, onigiri, and excellent sake options. The address is 152 West 49th Street, at the corner of 7th avenue (it's underground, only one door with small letters, so make sure you have the address with you when you go and enter the right place). Or, you can go to Esca, which is at 402 West 43rd Street. It's a pretty good Italian restaurant for that area. Finally, you can try Swizz, which is at 310 West 53rd Street, that has the best damn fondue I've eaten in the Theater District and excellent beer/wine options. Blocks are easy to walk and are short in distance, whereas Avenues are longer. All of the options I mentioned are within a few minutes away from your hotel. But I definitely wouldn't suggest Hard Rock.

                                                          Also, since you are planning to visit the Lower East Side, consider going to the Clinton Street Baking Co., especially if you go during the week. Tuesday morning is a good option. It is not busy during the week and you can walk in right away. They have been voted as having the best brunch and breakfast in NY a few years in a row. Their pancakes are famous, but you can get anything and be happy. They serve breakfast items until about 4:00 pm, or you can get lunch. The address is 4 Clinton Street, right on the corner of Houston. It's right by Russ and Daughters and Katz's Deli, which you referenced in your post.

                                                          Another brunch spot which I absolutely love and which is also on the Lower East Side is Prune, run by the famous Gabrielle Hamilton. Go here on a weekend, preferrably Saturday. I know you referenced Jane, but Prune is much better. I ate at Jane twice last year and decided to not go back. The eggs benedict were too runny and the drinks were definitely not as good as Prune. My mimosa was watered down and last time I sat at the bar and saw how the bar man was making it. In contrast, Prune makes their own bloody mary juice with organic products, for example, and gives you a small glass of Red Stripe beer to cleanse your palette, and their bar woman really knows how to make a drink. Look at Chowhound posts from previous years on Prune and you'll see what I mean. The trick is to go exactly at 10:00am when they open or at 3:20pm which is the last seating for brunch, and you can sit right away. Trust me, better than Jane.

                                                          By the way, the best place for Belgian pommes frites is in a small little shack on 2nd Avenue called Pommes Frites. The address is 123 2nd Ave, at 7-8th Streets. They're frites are made fresh right in front of you and they have over 30 sauces to choose from. There is always a line (which tells you how good it is) but it moves very fast because there are always at least 3 people working at the counter, so you can get your fries within 5-10 minutes. Excellent place!

                                                          A note on Woodbury Commons: I've been here several times to shop. DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT, EVER GO ON A SUNDAY. I am a New Yorker who loves her bargains, but this mall is not a place where you want to go on a Sunday. Sunday is a big shopping day, but this goes double for people living in the suburbs. They come with their kids, they shop for their house, their relatives, and they will want to fucking kick your ass over a parking space. Yes, I actually have gotten into an argument over parking here (and managed to win a spot). There is a lot which is free, but if you come on Sunday, forget about it. I spent over an hour trying to find parking. Again, avoid Sunday at all costs. I know it seems like I am being too stringent here, but trust me I know what I'm taking about. I took my tourist in-laws here on a Sunday and they wanted to go to Coach to buy some handbags (50% off). There was a ONE HOUR LINE just to get into the store! Again, trust me when I tell you, I have experience in this area. Which reminds me, when you come to Woodbury Commons, which should be between Mondays and Fridays only (when you can actually park and get into the stores no problem), you should come by car, not by bus. If you are from out of town, like my in laws were, and you come to this mall, you will want to buy EVERYTHING. You will want to buy designer curtains for $40 or a J. Crew sweater for $20, prices which you have never seen anywhere, especially in Manhattan. You will want to buy a full wardrobe for yourself from Dolce and Gabana, Gucci, etc. and possibly gifts for others. You can get lost in this labyrinth of a mall and want to buy everything pretty quickly, so there's no way you're going to be able to carry everything back with you into the city. Be smart, rent a car. Zipcar.com is pretty cheap. Make sure you get a car with GPS so you don't get lost trying to get there.

                                                          Best of luck and have a great trip!

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                                                          Jane
                                                          100 West Houston Street, New York, NY 10012

                                                          Hagi
                                                          152 W 49th St, New York, NY 10019

                                                          Pommes Frites
                                                          123 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                                          Esca
                                                          402 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036

                                                          Swizz
                                                          310 West 53rd Street, New York, NY 10019

                                                          Prune
                                                          54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

                                                          Clinton Street Baking Co.
                                                          4 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

                                                          Hard Rock Cafe
                                                          1501 Broadway, New York, NY 10036

                                                          6 Replies
                                                          1. re: citykid426

                                                            > Or, you can go to Esca, which is at 402 West 43rd Street. It's a pretty good Italian restaurant for that area.

                                                            I wouldn't walk into Esca around 5pm without a reservation as that is prime pre-theater dining time.

                                                            > Another brunch spot which I absolutely love and which is also on the Lower East Side is Prune, run by the famous Gabrielle Hamilton. Go here on a weekend, preferrably Saturday

                                                            Technically Prune is in the East Village, being above Houston Street. And yes, you must go on a weekend, because they don't offer breakfast/brunch on weekdays. With Prune, the OP seems mainly interested in French toast, which Prune doesn't offer, though.

                                                            I was actually at Prune for brunch a few Saturdays ago and we got there at 9:30am and the line was already 6-8 people long. People who got there just before 10am were not able to sit down in the first seating.

                                                            > By the way, the best place for Belgian pommes frites is in a small little shack on 2nd Avenue called Pommes Frites.

                                                            I find their fries to be too thick and stubby (too often you end up with a cone full of "the ends") for my liking. If you want perfectly executed shoestring fries, go elsewhere, like DBGB nearby.

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                                                            Pommes Frites
                                                            123 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

                                                            Esca
                                                            402 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036

                                                            DBGB
                                                            299 Bowery, New York, NY 10003

                                                            1. re: kathryn

                                                              I hate to be critical, but Pommes Frites don't twice fry their fries as far as I can tell. And while the variety of sauces are fun, the fries don't hold up. It's certainly decent, but I guess fries are just fillers, and with the OPs aggressive dining plans, less fillers and or get the fries at a good restaurant.

                                                              1. re: kathryn

                                                                Most old-timers call anywhere below Houston St. LES. NOT calling you old, citykid.

                                                                I agree that Pommes Frites isn't worth the calories or stomach space.

                                                                  1. re: uwsister

                                                                    I meant anywhere below14th St. NOT Houston St. above - DUH.

                                                                1. re: citykid426

                                                                  I don't think the OP have to worry too much on the Woodbury on Sunday thing. It sounds like from the schedule they will be traveling at slightly off peak times. And if they go with a plan or aren't maniacal about things, they might enjoy some of the energy there.

                                                                  I would worry a little about carrying everything. But if they shop at the higher end stores, they probably will hold items till later for purchase. So that should take care of some of the hassle. Or basically, if that's when you already plan to go, then go for it.

                                                                  If you are checking the board, welcome to NY!