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EMP Lunch or Dinner?

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DaisyM May 5, 2011 04:06 AM

We'll be in New York for one night and I've wanted to experience EMP. I see there is a 4 course menu at lunch and dinner. Is it the same menu/experience?

Thank you!

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11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

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    nmprisons RE: DaisyM May 5, 2011 04:14 AM

    I have not had lunch there, but I have never been to a restaurant that offered the "same experience" at lunch as it did dinner. There is something quite wonderful about sitting at EMP at the end of a meal, drink in hand, and relaxing with nowhere else to be in the world. I would go then and do the extended menu. It has never disappointed me.

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      nmprisons RE: nmprisons May 5, 2011 05:00 AM

      Note that I am in no way disparaging the lunch there (which I have never had) or making the claim that it others might very reasonably prefer that to the dinner.

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      gutsofsteel RE: DaisyM May 5, 2011 04:15 AM

      The menu is the same....and I prefer the room at lunchtime.

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        fooder RE: DaisyM May 5, 2011 06:09 AM

        My review of lunch at EMP: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/744039
        My review of dinner at EMP: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/763142

        EMP is one of the few high end restaurants that really try to offer a lunch experience comparable to the dinner experience. The menu is essentially the same, but there are more canapes at dinner. If budget or time is an issue, then I would suggest the cheaper, shorter, lunch that still captures the EMP experience. Otherwise, I would suggest dinner.

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          DaisyM RE: fooder May 5, 2011 06:38 AM

          Thanks to all of you for responding. I'm going to figure out our timing and then decide. I'm very much looking forward to dining at EMP. Have been watching this board for some time in trying to choose a spectacular place. Thanks for your help!

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            gutsofsteel RE: DaisyM May 5, 2011 08:38 AM

            The last time I had lunch at EMP it was 3 hours.

        2. kelea RE: DaisyM May 5, 2011 06:41 AM

          BTW, I scored a dinner reservation for in May for 2.

          It's not exactly a celebration, but as I'm leaving NYC, I'm trying to hit all my top restos. Did lunch at LB, dinner at Per Se, will be doing dinner at Daniel. Any tips on how to maximize this meal for a great experience?

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            ellenost RE: kelea May 5, 2011 07:01 AM

            To maximize your dinner experience, I highly recommend that you choose the Tasting Menu for $195--it's fantastic!

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              DaisyM RE: ellenost May 5, 2011 07:32 AM

              Just called for reservations and was told they take them only 28 days in advance. Am I more likely to get a reservation using the hotel concierge for a Saturday night? We usually use open table. Thank you!

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                ellenost RE: DaisyM May 5, 2011 08:17 AM

                I use OpenTable all of the time for my EMP reservations, but if you're seeking a reservation more than 28 days in advance, I don't think the hotel concierge will be able to obtain the reservation either. I believe if you're within the 28 day window and OpenTable has no availability, you should contact EMP directly to see whether they have any availability.

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                  DaisyM RE: ellenost May 5, 2011 08:19 AM

                  Thank you!

          2. biondanonima RE: DaisyM Aug 25, 2011 11:54 AM

            Any more recent lunch experiences? I have a reservation for both lunch and dinner and am waiting on input from my parents to decide which to keep, but if the lunch experience is just as good as dinner I'll coax them toward lunch!

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              gutsofsteel RE: biondanonima Aug 25, 2011 01:28 PM

              I actually prefer EMP at lunchtime. The light coming in those huge windows make the room shine at its best.

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                mr3 RE: biondanonima Aug 25, 2011 10:22 PM

                If you want the full EMP experience, you have to go the dinner.

                Although the lunch and dinner menu are nearly identical, there are 2 fewer mignardises and you don't have the option of getting the Muscovy duck or the clam bake on the tasting menu (although this will change post-Labor day).

                Additionally, if you're into wine, the section that you're sitting in may not have a sommelier assigned exclusively; there is one sommelier roaming the floor for lunch, but you won't have as much of an opportunity to ask in-depth questions.

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                  ellenost RE: mr3 Aug 26, 2011 03:48 AM

                  Two questions:

                  1) what's the "clambake"? Does one need to specifically request it?

                  2) after Labor Day, will the duck be available at lunch without special request?

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                    mr3 RE: ellenost Aug 26, 2011 05:56 AM

                    1) The clam bake is available on the tasting menu. It's right after hors d'oeuvres and includes a clam veloute, corn and chorizo madeleine, razor clam with corn and caviar, manila clam with melon and basil, and a pomme dauphine. The dish is "finished" tableside and is quite the visual spectacle.

                    2) The duck will be available during lunch post Labor Day. I'm not sure if you have to specifically request it.

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                      ellenost RE: mr3 Aug 26, 2011 06:21 AM

                      The clam bake sounds delicious. Too bad I wasn't offered it last time I had the tasting menu at EMP a few weeks ago : - (.

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                        skylineR33 RE: ellenost Aug 26, 2011 06:35 AM

                        The clam bake is such a beautiful course. Here are some pic of it.

                         
                         
                         
                         
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                        doubledoc RE: mr3 Aug 26, 2011 07:59 AM

                        Was the shellfish cooked, or raw?

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                          nmprisons RE: doubledoc Aug 26, 2011 09:11 AM

                          never had it, but the pictures clearly show a cooked clam.

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                      biondanonima RE: mr3 Aug 26, 2011 08:56 AM

                      Hm. Well, in our case we weren't planning on doing the tasting menu in any case. We will be there post Labor day, so the duck should be available - I wonder if they'll allow it as a course in the 4-course menu at lunch? As for wine, we do enjoy it but I think we'd be fine without an exclusive sommelier, especially at lunch - I don't imagine any of us will want more than a glass or two. I made my reservations through Open Table, but perhaps I should call and find out a little more about what's available at lunchtime before making a final decision.

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                        ml77 RE: biondanonima Aug 28, 2011 09:59 PM

                        I haven't had it, but I had a chicken for two at lunch last year. If the duck is becoming available for lunch, then you can have it as part of the 4 course, and it will count as one course for each diner.

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                          miltronix RE: biondanonima Aug 30, 2011 09:18 AM

                          We had the duck as one of the courses in the 4-course menu at lunch. I coordinated it via email prior to our visit. It did add a supplement of $70 though.

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                            biondanonima RE: miltronix Sep 1, 2011 08:32 AM

                            $70 per person or $70 for two? I believe the supplement at dinner is $35 per person so that would make sense for two. I'll have to ask my parents if they're interested.

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                              ellenost RE: biondanonima Sep 1, 2011 08:53 AM

                              I believe the supplement for the duck is $35 per person.

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