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Price for dinner at Joel Robuchon

ketchupgirl May 4, 2011 07:11 PM

Hello,

It shouldn't be difficult to figure out how much dinner for two would cost, but I cannot find an updated price list online. 2006 looks like $160 per person for the tasting menu--can anyone confirm the newest pricing? Would it be a $400 meal or really much more than that??

Thank you!

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L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon
57 E 57th St, New York, NY 10022

  1. sgordon May 5, 2011 08:09 AM

    Currently at the Vegas location (the L'Atelier, not the flagship) it's $168 for the tasting, and the usual stunningly high rip-off prices a la carte ($70 for kampachi with endives?) and "small tasting portions" for as much as you'd pay for an entree elsewhere. But then, that's Vegas. Every restaurant jacks up their prices there.

    I've never done the tasting in NYC (or in Vegas, for that matter) but I did their "make your own tastinglike-thing" once - it was, like, choose four courses for $75 or something like that. My date and I left hungry and underwhelmed, after four courses. Found ourselves getting a couple hot dogs to finish off the meal, afterwards.

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    1. re: sgordon
      The Drama Queen May 6, 2011 11:13 AM

      Sorry Sgordon but that's not true. Joel Rubochon's prices are definitely a rip off as are most of the high end, so called Fine Dining restaurants all over this country. Why anyone who knows what a tasting menu consists of, agree to pay those ridiculous prices is beyond me. They get those prices because they can. Franky, I find them pretentious.

      As a long time Las Vegas resident I can tell you that not all restaurants on or off the Strip raise their prices. There are some excellent places to eat where the price is in line with the quality of the food. I lived in California for a number of years and the prices of some restaurants was a joke.

      1. re: The Drama Queen
        c oliver May 6, 2011 11:37 AM

        "They get those prices because they can. "

        And they can because obviously plenty of people consider it worth it. The quality of the ingredients is, IMO, not the key thing. It's the genius (or not) in the kitchen. You can give a subpar chef the same ingredients and not get the prices that a few others get. Oh, right, you won't get the same meal either :)

        1. re: c oliver
          The Drama Queen May 6, 2011 12:23 PM

          And that's fine with me. If you think that $200 per person for a "taste" of a few items, (that's what a tasting menu is) is worth the price then more power to you. I know that several people thought they were getting a full course instead of the tiny portions they actually get and had to go out to eat afterward. Many people are often surprised that the food they got and the amount they were given was no where near what they expected. Pay away as far as I'm concerned. It keeps our economy in Vegas healthy. And we thank you.

          1. re: The Drama Queen
            c oliver May 6, 2011 12:39 PM

            Actually I think most of the tasting menus I've heard and read about and experienced (only a couple so far) were more in the 15+/- courses range. Our last one in Seattle I was glad our extreme athlete daughter was with us or we couldn't have finished it all. I'm surprised that anyone would go to one without learning what it was all about. Especially those that are really expensive. Ooh, I don't spend my dining dollars in Vegas. It's just that when some of the top chefs open places there it is news.

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              Yaxpac May 6, 2011 01:25 PM

              I have had the tasting menu at JR in Vegas. I believe it was about 15 courses and it was more than enough food. I have a hearty appetite and if your friends needed more food after that then they should probably stick to the AYCE buffets.

              I couldn't imagine eating 15 full courses and to expect such is rather naive.

              1. re: Yaxpac
                The Drama Queen May 6, 2011 01:34 PM

                I think you're referring to the "de gustation" menus which are between 12 and 16 courses and run about $250 to $600 pp. One reviewer and his wife spent $1500 on one of these menues. Those are definitely not for the small eater. The tasting menus are very tiny portions of food meant for you to taste. No one can eat 15 full courses. My friends stay away from the AYCE buffets. We prefer to sit down and be served at good, preferrably upscale restaurants where the food in interesting.

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                  Yaxpac May 6, 2011 01:39 PM

                  nope, i am referring to the tasting menu...it had on the menu exactly how many courses and the price. it also listed each course that was in the tasting.

                  But semantics aside...

                  they are small portions meant for you to taste, hence the name. The portions were just the right size since there are 15 courses.

                  Edit: Funny, I just went to the website and it explicitly says SMALL PORTION tastings. I guess small is all relative in the US.

                  1. re: Yaxpac
                    The Drama Queen May 6, 2011 03:44 PM

                    My husband and I spent a few days in Napa Valley several years ago. I had no idea what a "tasting menu" meant so we popped for the $75. per person, sans wine, menu. I was blown away by the incredible tiny portions. We got ONE ravioli, ONE, as the main course. It was the most fantastic thing I've ever put into my mouth, agreed, but ONE? There was not enough food on the menu to satisy us. But shame on us for not knowing. The 250 + lb. gentleman at the table right next to us, was livid. He didn't know either. LOL. Now we BOTH understand "Tasting Menu."

                    1. re: The Drama Queen
                      c oliver May 6, 2011 03:58 PM

                      Did you mean Bouchon rather than Robuchon perhaps? I believe Bouchon is another Keller restaurant.

                  2. re: The Drama Queen
                    c oliver May 6, 2011 01:42 PM

                    Just for clarification, Thomas Keller refers to his Per Se menu as a "tasting menu":

                    http://www.perseny.com/

                    With all the extras it's probably >15

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                    Per Se
                    10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

                    1. re: c oliver
                      The Drama Queen May 6, 2011 03:38 PM

                      The 15 courses may be Keller's tasting menu but as I mentioned these are not full courses. I am a huge fan of Keller's and watch his cooking show every week. I've made his recipes and never had a bad one. Having said that, I also had a chance to see his tasting courses on one of his shows awhile back. The portions are very tiny but that's what a tasting menu is. BTW Thomas Keller's Burger Bar at Mandalay Bay has a $75.00 hamburger. Yep, just the burger. Kobe beef. Yikes!!!

                      1. re: The Drama Queen
                        c oliver May 6, 2011 03:44 PM

                        Do you not understand that a "tasting menu" is a few small bites of a whole lot of food? I thought you said that was a "degustation" menu. I didn't know he had a tv show. Not much of a tv watcher though.

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                          fooder May 6, 2011 04:11 PM

                          Robuchon, the subject of the OP, refers to Joel Robuchon, French chef of the century
                          Bouchon, with locations in Napa and LV, refer to Thomas Keller's restaurants
                          Hubert Keller, not Thomas Keller, is the owner of Burger Bar and has a cooking show

                          1. re: fooder
                            c oliver May 6, 2011 04:15 PM

                            Oops, I forgot about Hubert. Maybe THAT'S who The Drama Queen is talking about. I'm confused :)

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                              The Drama Queen May 6, 2011 05:58 PM

                              Yikes, I'm so sorry. I was referring to Hubert Keller not Thomas Keller. I guess I should have made that clear. We didn't have that tasting menu at The French Laundry (Thomas Keller's restuarant) but somewhere else. It's been long time, maybe 16,17 years so I don't remember where it was. And just so we're clear, we had 8 courses, all of them consisted of ONE bite each. THAT much I remember. I don't care what we were eating, 8 bites of food is not enough to satisfy me or my husband let alone the big guy at the other table. And $150 plus tax and tip is outrageous. Lesson learned. I'm done with this subject.

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              nextguy May 6, 2011 11:03 AM

              I would just email the four seasons. They are very good with answering those kinds of questions quickly.

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              The Four Seasons
              99 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

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              1. re: nextguy
                c oliver May 6, 2011 11:41 AM

                Agree. I think with the ease of the internet we sometimes forget that there are other ways :)

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                fooder May 6, 2011 01:37 PM

                Just call the Four Seasons, have them put you through to the restaurant, and ask them directly.

                With regard to the discussion above, I've actually always felt that the L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon in Vegas was both cheaper and tastier than the one in NYC. I find the prices at L'AdJR to not have increased as noticeably as other fine dining restaurants, but they manage to increase the cost in other ways. I remember back in the day when an order of langoustine en papillote meant two rolls for the same price that they now serve one roll for.

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                  ejswanso May 7, 2011 06:25 PM

                  This thread is fantastic. Wow.

                  The food at Robuchon is certainly not cheap, and the portions aren't huge, but it's hard not to leave satisfied after two little burgers with a huge slab of foie, or the famous potato (-butter) puree with your entree of choice.

                  What really digs deep into the wallet here is the wine, however. This could have changed, but the last time I was there, maybe a year and a half ago for the NYC branch, it was a struggle to find a full bottle of wine at $100. Half-bottles, similarly, bottom out around $50 and rise from there.

                  The cocktails are quite nice, however. I don't know that there's much nearby, but a before-dinner cocktail at another spot could help keep the bill down.

                  Chef Robuchon is going to be in the kitchen this week, according to an e-mail I almost forgot about from a month ago. If I recall correctly, the kitchen usually sends out an extra amuse or appetizer when he is in town.

                  1. ketchupgirl May 8, 2011 04:33 PM

                    Well, it isn't that easy to figure out how to plan ahead when you cannot view the menu and prices online. Zagat lists per person price at $138, the restaurant on the phone said it's possible to eat for $75 per person, but the tasting menu is now $268 a person! Sorry, it just seems too difficult to plan not to spend way too much for dinner. I'm curious about a rough estimate and cannot seem to find one. I'm sure it's delicious, but planning to spend over $600 for dinner is way too much (for us).

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                    1. re: ketchupgirl
                      sgordon May 9, 2011 07:08 AM

                      You can do much better in this town, anyway. Go to EMP - for $125/pp, you'll have a knock-out meal that'll blow the pants off L'Atelier. Or go with the tasting menu ($195) which'll blow the pants off just about any meal anywhere.

                      I know Robuchon has his worshippers - and someday, if I have the money, I might try his flagship restaurant - but I won't do L'Atelier again.

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                        nextguy May 9, 2011 01:27 PM

                        I have not been to EMP yet but Joel Robuchon (not L'Atelier) in Vegas remains my all time favorite meal. Ketchupgirl, I agree that it is frustrating when restaurants don't publish their prices or keep their online menus up to date, but as I mentioned in a post earlier the Four Seasons is very good answering inquiries. Email or call them and you'll get the prices. Keep in mind also that restaurants that publish menus and prices online is still a very North American practice. I am planning a trip to Paris now and finding menus, prices, and making reservations has been maddening!

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                          ellenost May 9, 2011 02:07 PM

                          I've been fortunate to have dined at Joel Robuchon (my new favorite LV restaurant), EMP, and L'Atelier in NYC on a night that Chef Robuchon was in the kitchen. For the cost, quality of food and service, I highly recommend EMP over L'Atelier.

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