Shhhh — quieter Oakland dinner decision
It's my birthday this weekend and my mother (who's from out of town) wants to take me out to dinner, but asked that I pick a restaurant. I love Oakland and would like to stay in the city. I'd like a nice mid-range restaurant (no Commis) with variety of food and great cocktails. So here's my shortlist:
Plum (largely based on the SF Chron rating and this fine review by Daveena: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/737525 ). My front-runner.
A regretful no to: Bay Wolf (beer/wine only), Levende East, Ozumo (overrated IMO), Bar Lata (love, but had a birthday there last year), A Cote (birthdayed as well), Pican (3rd time's the charm), Flora, Mua, and most Italian (the next night we'll be at Caffe Sociale in SF).
The catch is that I'd prefer the restaurant is not screamingly loud (one of the reasons I eliminated Flora and Mua). I still haven't been to Plum, but it's got 4 bells from the Chronicle—not something that would normally deter me, but I know my mom would feel more comfortable without having to shout or strain to hear. I'm looking for opinions from diners who prefer it quiet to see if we can get by at Plum anyway, or if I should pick another option.
5478 College Ave, Oakland, CA 94618
6317 College Ave., Oakland, CA 94618
827 Washington St., Oakland, CA 94607
3665 Sacramento St., San Francisco, CA 94118
468 8th St, Oakland, CA 94607
Bay Wolf Restaurant
3853 Piedmont Avenue, Oakland, CA 94611
2442A Webster Street, Oakland, CA 94612
2251 Broadway Avenue, Oakland, CA 94612
2295 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94612
3859 Piedmont Avenue, Oakland, CA 94611
re: Robert Lauriston
I do plan to schedule before the peak dinner hour, so it's possible we could avoid the loudest times. Tamarindo can get noisy with a lot of people, but it's small, so the odds of a lot of loud folks at once is much less than, say, Camino.
Bocanova is a definite contender I had forgotten about. If it's a warm night like we've had lately, sitting on their patio could be perfect. I also had a great experience at Chop Bar this past weekend, which I'd recommend for this if I hadn't just been.
Re cocktails at Plum: Rats, I could have sworn I read they did. A side effect of aging, I guess.
468 8th St, Oakland, CA 94607
55 Webster Street, Oakland, CA 94607
The outdoor tables at Pizzaiolo or Dona Tomas are quiet, though they may not allow you to specifically reserve a table outdoors, and then you need to request outdoors when you arrive for your reserved time and may have to wait for a while. But both places have good cocktails to enjoy while waiting! Happy Bday!
5008 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA 94609
5004 Telegraph Avenue, Oakland, CA 94609
Thanks to everyone for the thoughtful recommendations. I'm actually now leaning towards Bocanova—the small plates format is up my alley, and the portions are a nice shareable size that will allow us to try a variety of items. The Central and South American flavors will be a nice counterpoint to the classic Italian meal we will have the next night.
I think I will save Plum for another day—although I still plan on trying it, I realize that the counter stools (where I would likely request we sit) are backless, and that the whole experience may be more up MY alley than OUR alley. However, I look forward to trying it when their bar is up and running as well.
I like B and Pizzaiolo very much, but I had not put them on my list because most of the dishes are Italian (even though a more rustic approach than Sociale) in leaning or origin. Great places, but looking for a variety this time.
I'll post my final decision and our actual experience when I have them!