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Technivorm, yea or nay? Husband sick of weak Keurig coffee...

I'd really like to get a Jura (his beau idéal of coffemakers, given happy experiences with them when traveling) but can't bring myself to lash out that much dough. Is the Technivorm all that? Is there another coffeemaker at a lower price point that makes strong European-style coffee? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

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  1. Geez, looking at Amazon prices - $299.99 - could this be correct?

    I went through the torture of coffeemakers until I finally decided "espresso" is the only way to go for me. Going through unsatisfactory coffeemakers (and semi-expensive) now is a thing of the past.

    You don't have to go $500 for an espresso maker. You can look around and get something for much, much less.
    Then you may get hooked on it.

    But espreso makers take dedication similar to 'relationships.'
    A lot of work, but fun!

    1. Try a Bialetti Moka. The machine does not make it on its own: you'll always be playing with variants on beans, roasts, grinds and time.
      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/654430

      1. We have a Keurig coffee maker at work and I find it makes a horrible cup of coffee. At home we've gone through many different brands and currently we have a Zjirushi 10 cup carafe and we love it. Good strong coffee, carafe...fantastic. I'm sure the Technivorm makes a great cup of coffee but at some point I feel I just have to say ENOUGH (for me, not for you). Good luck.

        http://www.amazon.com/Zojirushi-EC-BD...

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        1. re: jnk

          The Zo is another one I've been considering, thanks for the vote of confidence!

          1. re: buttertart

            We love our coffee (probably have ten different varieties in the house at present, mostly dark roasts) and we loooove our Zojirushi. It gets the water very hot so it makes a respectibly strong cup of coffee, and then it keeps it hot for 2-3 hours in its thermal carafe without burning it. They're usually around $90 though we found ours on sale at Newegg for under $70.

            1. re: junescook

              A number of folks are advocating a french press. At several point in my life -- eg, when I was a teenager, during the 60's my father tried it, later, one of my professional colleagues tries to wow us with one. Apart from presentation, what you get is acidy coffee, with extraneous grounds at a lower than normal temperature. Believe me, I've done them all and have found the Zojirushi has made us the happiest. We are a retired couple. We drink two pots a morning. We've had the Zo for at least 5 years.

              1. re: junescook

                The level of coffee intensity we're looking for is along the lines of a fresh cup of Major Dickason's or other dark roast at Peet's in Berkeley, or so. I drink a couple of cups a day but he (a midwesterner) drinks at least a potful. We've been using our own beans in the Keurig and he likes the convenience of having a cup in a minute and reasonably hot, but the flavor just isn't where we like it to be. Neither of us has ever been crazy about French presses. We have a stovetop espresso pot for times when only that will do. Thanks very much for the vote of confidence in the Zo, I'm leaning toward it as it seems to meet the criteria we have in mind.

        2. GO Technivorm!
          The best coffee brewer I've ever had.

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          1. A French press can make "strong European-style coffee." You're mixing two concepts, coffee strength and coffee brewing. It's like saying "my vodka doesn't make strong enough mixed drinks."

            It's possible that you may not have found a K-Cup that works for you (or maybe you've tried them all, including the roll-your-own option). However, if all you want is a stronger cup of coffee then find a bean you like, get an inexpensive french press and see if you can get a proper brew to your liking. An easier starting point than buying a $300 coffee maker.

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            1. re: ferret

              By all means, buy an 'inexpensive" french press. I've tried three over the past three decades. I don't think there is really any improvement.
              One of my complaints about the modern french press is that hot water comes in contact with plastic.

              1. re: Rella

                French Press and Plastic? Maybe but there are other options. Having lived in Italy with spouse for over a year, we became completely addicted to espresso drinks 4 or 5 times a day. Returning to the US we opted for a wonderful (admittedly expensive) machine that fulfills our need for great flavor, full crema, hot espresso but it takes some time and is a ritual; so it is often relegated to weekends and entertaining.

                Our day to day caffeine needs are met using stainless steel, double-wall insulated Freiling (sp/) french press pots. They are fabulous, completely dishwasher safe and never break like the glass Bodum carafes did.

                It took a while to find the coffee flavor profiles that could keep us interested (currently Starbucks; 50% Gold Coast and 50% Cafe Verona) for a mix of high bright tones balanced with deep caramel flavors.

                Getting a consistent grind day after day was the next step and that took finding the right setting on our burr grinder, measuring a consistent quantity of beans by scoops into the grinder and using the same timing setting for the beans.

                Water quality was next, we opted for a Brita filter carafe to remove all traces of chlorine and always have one ready to go.

                Water is boiled in a simple kettle, double the amount needed for the press pot. We fill the press with boiling water to pre-heat the stainless steel, cover and immerse the plunger. After about a minute, (during which time the coffee beans are scooped into the grinder), we pour the press pot water into ceramic coffee mugs to heat them and place the measured ground coffee into the pot. By that time the remainder of the water in the kettle has cooled from boiling down to around 195 degrees. That is poured into the press pot slowly to saturate the grounds. Once filled to just under the V groove of the pouring spout, the press is covered. For us, 4 minutes after covering is perfect brew time for a deep rich but not bitter cup. Plunger is pressed slowly, coffee mugs emptied of hot water (back into kettle) and hot, fresh brewed coffee is poured that has a level of intensity with pure, clean flavors.

                Admittedly it took a while to fine tune this 'system approach' but it fits our needs and can be repeated for consistent results. The only plastic in this equation is our use of the Brita Filter carafe but can't believe that has any impact on the flavor of our water.

              2. re: ferret

                French press was my initial thought on reading the OP. I don't know if it will appeal, but sometimes simpler actually IS better, in my estimation, with coffee at least. But, I am not a daily coffee drinker, and that may make all the difference, if convenience is a big factor.