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Hi everyone,
Surely I cannot be the only one dealing with this. Our house, built in the 1960s, features in its kitchen a 26-iinch wall oven, which is way smaller than most these days, but not as small as the next level down in terms of size, which is 24 inches.

Please, tell me I can replace my oven which has died (and which has 50 years of filth in it--they didn't
self-clean in those days!).

Although I should say, we are hoping to remodel our kitchen entirely in a few years since it is the total original 60s kitchen, so I don't want to go nuts customizing something to fit it if it won't fit the new kitchen well a few years down the line.

help??? help!

thanks!
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  1. A good carpenter can, using shims, make the hole smaller to fit a 24" oven. If you want to go larger...perhaps a carpenter can build a quasi-temporary cabinet. For that, a lot depends upon the current cabinet configuration.

    1. I had precisely the same problem last year when my oven died. A company that still manufactures a single wall oven that fits those openings is "Summit Appliances." http://www.summitappliance.com/. They do not sell to consumers but they will hook you up with someone in your area that does. The oven was around $500 and another $100 for installation.

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      1. re: Ambimom

        I'm afraid I got very little help from Summit (in fact, some of the people there were downright RUDE---one of them told me my oven COULDN'T be the size I said it was "because that oven doesn't exist!"). They told me they carry no ovens less than 34" long, but they redeemed themselves in my eyes when another person with their sales department gave me the name of ANOTHER company that DOES carry the smaller ovens.

        That company is A.J. Madison (www.ajmadison.com ) and in looking there tonight I did find a 24" wide oven that I'm going to call them about tomorrow. (My opening space is 24" W X 26" high or long).

      2. Yes you are not the only one having to replace an old built in small wall oven.
        I am considering the 30" American Range wall oven-gas- which will replace a 1980s Magic Chef gas wall oven so I am facing a similar dilemma as Indy Girl. I will have to enlarge existing cabinet. If I replace with 24" wide gas oven, cabinet work will be minimal but I will have to live with very small amount of oven interior cooking space.
        Choices are: American Range, Blue Star or Viking 30" gas wall ovens
        The American Range so far is the my #1 choice. Does anyone own the American Range 30" gas wall oven?

        1. There are quite a few 27" ovens out there. I hope they'll fit. Otherwise, like E_M said, someone should be able to fill the hole.

          If I'm sure I'll remodel the kitchen in a few years, I may even try to ride it out with a countertop oven.

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          1. re: cutipie721

            American Range 30" gas wall oven? Pros:-the interior oven space is huge plus small amt of energy usage. Cons: doors can get really hot plus this product is new & untested.
            I have heard that AR customer support may be a problem.
            I only have gas no 220 line-can't run one to kitchen-long story. Not much choice in gas wall ovens either than the AR, Viking, Blue Star or
            Maytag. Maytag is small but gets great reviews. SS Maytag is pricey-$1000 for a basic product.
            Anyone buy the American Range gas oven?
            Thank U!!

          2. It's dead and you're planning on doing a reno in a couple of years anyway.

            I'm going to continue cutiepie's heretical direction and say go buy a countertop oven and not buy a replacement. The replacement and whatever you need to do to get it to fit is only going to take away from your eventual reno so why not save the $$$ and get the oven you want in the cabinetry you want when it comes time to do it. If you buy an oven now, you'll be spending extra to re-integrate it into the reno which will just eat $$$.

            The advantage is that you'll have a backup oven if you do that US Thanksgiving thing once the reno's done. In the interim, go to someone else's house for turkey or deep fry outside.

            And for the eventual oven: Miele's MasterChef double oven. You won't be sorry.

            1. Well there are 27'' and 30'' wall ovens available. Ge, Bosch, Maytag offers best and durable appliances. You can check them out they're really reasonable and efficient.

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              1. re: jack220

                What one place told me, however, is that the numbers "27" and "30" refer to WIDTH, not length---and in my kitchen there is only open empty space on both sides of my built-in-oven---one side is a doorway and the other is the open space over my cooktop. Where the oven is built-in, there is cabinet space above and below. I "could" have those cabinets rebuilt to accomodate a LONGER oven, but there isn't much I can do about greater width without remodeling the entire kitchen to find a new place to put a built-in oven. Since it's small kitchen, there really isn't anywhere to put it except where it is (agian, without tearing out ALL the cabinets and starting all over).

                1. re: countrymouse712

                  countrymouse712-
                  I have been dealing with this issue for a while. Research 24" width on ajmadison & other sites-also european made ovens are small-some, like Smeg, are sold here in the US. Take note of products' electric requirements in addition to cut out-all are in install manuals online.
                  Also if you can-install a speed oven somewhere in your kitchen if U have space-they come in 110 or 220-can serve as a 2nd oven. Commercial micro/speed ovens are small compared to residential. Always check product reviews.
                  Hope this helps!

                  1. re: countrymouse712

                    Just about all cabinetry in the US is made with what's refered to as a face frame. This is kind of like a picture frame around an opening. If the face frame is wide enough it may very well be able to be trimed the 3 inches you would need to install a larger oven. We had friends who were able to do this, but we were not, so it doesn't work for everyone, but you should double check, just in case you do have enough room.

                    1. re: mikie

                      Thanks, but unfortunately my cabinet doors are beveled---I guess that was the style in the 60's! (smile)

                2. I just replaced our 26" wall oven with a 27" Kitchenaid oven (KEBS207BSS) and I did the installation myself. The actual cavity for the old oven was wide enough (25-3/4") to take the new oven as the bulk of the oven is just 25-1/2" wide. However, the front trim around the cavity obstructs part of that width and you need to trim off a little bit of that trim on each side. My cutting was not beautiful but you don't see that when the oven is in place because the remaining 1-1/2"of the 27" width of the oven is the front flange and door edge that coverand attach to the trim around the cavity. While I'm on this topic, I found that the junction box intruded into the oven cavity - the instructions say you need 24" depth of the cavity. We had a shade over 24" depth except that the junction box intruded into that depth. So I had to relocate the junction box so that I had the full 24" available to push the oven in. You might have the same problem with your oven cavity.

                  I realize that you won't want to do the work yourself but I've covered the key points. Oh, and you can get the required cavity dimensions from Kitchenaid (and I guess other manufacturers). You get both exterior and interior dimensions - you can measure the exterior dimensions easily. The interior dimensions can be guessed by subtracting the cabinet thickness from the exterior dimensions or measured if you pull the old oven out.

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                  1. re: kagemusha49

                    May I ask which oven exactly you replaced? I am trying to replace a 1990 double thermador wall oven, the outside measures 25 1/2 across. I would LOVE to get a 27 inch! I am able to get a replacement through my home warranty but if I order the wrong size and it can't be installed I am stuck with an oven, so I really need to get this right? Any advice, I can't seem to figure this out!? Thanks! :-)

                    1. re: fivefoxes

                      The original 26 inch double oven was a GE - I don't recall specifically which model. However, as I pointed out in my original post, the critical thing is to get the dimensions of your wall cavity (directly measured if you pull out the old oven or calculated by subtracting cabinet thickness from the exterior dimensions) and compare those with the dimensions stated by Kitchenaid. If your old oven was 25-1/2" wide you almost certainly have more than 25-3/4" width in your cabinet - your oven is wider than the one we replaced. As I said in my post, if things are very tight, you may have to do what I did and shave off some of the wood trim at the front of your cabinet and you may also have the problem that I had of relocating the junction box as my cabinet wasn't quite deep enough until I moved the box. All in all, this is simply a problem of careful measurement and a bit of work if things are tight. IMHO there are no safety issues involved (unless you're a klutz with electricity).

                      1. re: kagemusha49

                        Thank you for your help! I'm definitely going for a 27 inch but leaving it to the professionals! :-)