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Phantom Gourmet: what role does it play?

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blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 08:23 AM

I am not from Boston but we get the Phantom Gourmet in Montreal and I have been watching it for at least 6 years on and off. I cannot figure out what role it plays in the food scene in Boston. Can someone enlighten me as to what this show is all about and the role it plays in Boston's food scene.

I also have never read any blurbs on it or about it from any of the national food sites; blogs; or online food news.

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  1. Science Chick RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 08:26 AM

    It's role is to promote food for the masses. BTW, this thread will probably be moved by the powers that be to the "food and media" board................

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      blondee_47 RE: Science Chick Apr 23, 2011 08:52 AM

      ok thx so food for the masses translates into 'fast food big box dining?' I guess.

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        cambridgedoctpr RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 09:18 AM

        i think that the role of the phantom is to get money from sponsors and use the show as advertisement for said sponsors.

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          jgg13 RE: cambridgedoctpr Apr 23, 2011 09:41 AM

          This.

          PG will sometimes stumble upon something good, but I can't remember them ever (at least in the last handful of years) identifying something good that I hadn't already known about for quite some time. By and large, if I haven't heard of a place and I see it pimped on the PG, I know it's likely to be garbage.

          They're blatant shills for their sponsors, which should tell you something.

          As far as "what role does itp lay?" - For me it plays the role of food porn when I'm plopped on the couch weekend mornings. As much as I dislike all of their "ooey, gooey cheese!" and syrup money shots, that's kinda what I want to watch at 10:30 on a saturday :)

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          PinchOfSalt RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 09:28 AM

          Not necessarily, but food for the masses does not include a lot of stuff that gets discussed here. What you see on Phantom Gourmet is very mainstream, never high-end or challenging in any way. They might cover a neighborhood red-sauce Italian restaurant, but they would not feature a restaurant that specialized, say, in offal or had a lot of flavors that would be strange to the typical North American palate, such as Cambodian or Laotian fare. I would not expect them to be at a restaurant that a blue-collar middle class family would not be able to comfortably afford. That's their demographic. Which is not to say that everywhere they go is bad; it's just that on this board we tend to talk about a lot of things that would never be on the Phantom Gourmet.

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            jgg13 RE: PinchOfSalt Apr 23, 2011 09:43 AM

            You might not want to say "would not feature", as I've seen them do it. Never say never. It's just not what one typically sees on their show. Over the years I've seen them feature a lot of places that completely surprised me (typically in the 'high end' category, but that's still not 'mainstream').

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              EATTV RE: jgg13 Apr 23, 2011 10:06 AM

              I think the Andelbrothers are sensitive to this and are adding new field producers with better story telling abilities.

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            Science Chick RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 12:54 PM

            I didn't mean corporate/fast food/big box, as much as what the average joe would find appealing. I think the other hounds have done a more than adequate job of explaining PG's primary motivating factor. Bottom line: Garbage in = garbage out

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          Jenny Ondioline RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 10:15 AM

          The Andelmans are strictly pay-to-play. You might see them in a decent restaurant from time to time -- I saw them in Marliave once, for example -- but they're not going to feature it on the show unless it buys an ad or otherwise greases their palms.

          Phantom Gourmet's role in the Boston food scene is mostly cautionary: if they shill for a place, it's probably not worth going there. No one here takes them seriously at all, and if their dad wasn't a beloved local media personality, they never would have gotten a gig.

          1. greygarious RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 01:06 PM

            They have some very small value in that their footage shows what the interiors and exteriors of many restaurants is like. You get to see what the customer base looks like (can help in deciding if it's your demographic), and close-up shots of some of the food. Watch the show with the volume off - it's much less annoying that way, and you won't miss anything important.

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              jgg13 RE: greygarious Apr 23, 2011 02:07 PM

              Those are all good points and I've said in the past that some of the video they show has helped to shape an opinion I had of a place that I was already interested in.

              One thing though, I've *never* seen them show a burger in a way that makes me want to eat it. Even burgers that I know I like. Don't know who their food photography person is, but they need to be canned.

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                greygarious RE: jgg13 Apr 24, 2011 09:23 AM

                I sometimes think they only HAVE one burger shot. No matter what the restaurant, the cheddar-oozing burger pictured looks shellacked, with the top of the bun precariously perched upon a mound of toppings. It looks like only one of the jaw-dislocating aliens on "V" could consume it.

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              sablemerle RE: blondee_47 Apr 23, 2011 02:52 PM

              Bottom line, they are "pay to play" product placement. Their dad was indeed once a beloved sports radio figure in this town, but I can personally attest to the fact that he was also a giant ass in person (having had the misfortune to wait on him as a 17 year old). My basic instinct is to say, if it's from an Andelman, run.

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                blondee_47 RE: jjbourgeois Apr 24, 2011 07:11 AM

                Here they play on Saturdays and Sundays on a Boston based station here and on Saturdays as yesterday, it was a marathon of hour long shows...yet the food they highlighted and the restos seemed like the big box big size outfits. Now I understand that it is based on revenue but is this station a cable network.(WSBK?)

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                  greygarious RE: KilgoreTrout Apr 24, 2011 09:17 AM

                  WSBK, channel 38, is now a subsidiary of WBZ, channel 4, which is the CBS network affiliate in Boston. WSBK broadcasts local WBZ news an hour earlier than the "main" channel does. The rest of their programming, other than Phantom Gourmet, is mostly reruns of primetime dramas and comedies. Phantom Gourmet also has clips of their program on WBZ TV and radio, and they have a weekly program on WTKK-FM, which is a talk radio channel.

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