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All-Clad D5 Stainless Discontinued?

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KurtK9 Apr 20, 2011 07:39 PM

Does anyone know if the All-Clad D5 Stainless series is discontinued? Williams Sonoma has stopped carrying it and is selling out what stock they have. My fiance and I had just registered for the line when we found out. Does anyone know if they'll be a comparable replacement from All-Clad or an alternative we should consider?

Thanks!

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    rasputina RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 05:47 AM

    They are having a sale that ends Saturday but I've heard nothing of it being discontinued.

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      KurtK9 RE: rasputina Apr 21, 2011 06:27 AM

      The e-mail I got from their customer service stated:

      "The AllClad D5 Collection in Brushed Stainless Steel will still be available from Williams-Sonoma through 2011. We do not plan on offering the AllClad D5 Collection in non-stick and in Stainless Steel after our current inventory runs out."

      Some of the pieces are listed as being no longer available rather than simply out of stock so this makes sense.

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        RudysEquipment_Supplies RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 07:59 AM

        All Clad is going to hell with the current company owning them. If your supplier doesnt have a item instock within the next week probally wont see it for a while since they are shutting down the PA wharehouse for shipping and moving warehousing facility to NJ.GroupSEB doesnt deserve to own AllClad.

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          rasputina RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 11:09 AM

          So they are just getting rid of the polished finish in the stainless. I refuse to own non stick so no loss there on that.

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            olympia RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 05:53 PM

            The rep from which company - All Clad or Williams-Sonoma? I just called WS customer service and two local store and they said it's not being discontinued - not that they know everything. I find this particularly irksome since I just bought into the brand.

            Thanks for any updates/clarification.

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              KurtK9 RE: olympia Apr 21, 2011 07:33 PM

              The rep from Williams Sonoma said they were not selling the D5 stainless series anymore after this sale clears the inventory. The rep from All-Clad said the D5 stainless was available at other high end retailers and when I asked for them to give me some names and if the stainless line was being upgraded, they only told me about the 20th anniversary changes. I guess it's possible the D5 stainless will still exist, maybe at other retailers, but it seems more likely it's being phased out. Not sure, would like to know that...

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          KurtK9 RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 08:32 AM

          Updating with what I just got from an All-Clad rep:

          "
          We know they are going to re-introduce the Stainless Steel line. This new line will be coming out "possibly" the end of July beginning of August at participating high end stores. Here are some of the highlights of the new stainless steel set:

          Celebrating its 20thAnniversary
          •Tri-ply construction:
          -Stainless Steel
          -Aluminum
          -Induction Stainless Steel
          •Handcrafted in Canonsburg, PA using American-made steel
          •Raw materials made within 300 miles of Canonsburg, PA
          •Induction compatible
          •Dishwasher safe
          •Lifetime warranty
          *More comfortable handles and larger loop handles
          *The bottom of each pan will be stamped with....Handcrafted in the USA, All-Clad branding, capacity of pan and a quality control number.
          *New box design
          *Pans packaged in felt bags."

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            RudysEquipment_Supplies RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 09:43 AM

            I covered all this in a previous thread. I think I even attached photos of the new Stainless.Back track two weeks ago. Or look up by my profile.

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              Chemicalkinetics RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 09:43 AM

              So let me guess. This is just another 3-ply stainless steel-aluminum cookware which All Clad has been making since forever. I suppose they may have the newer and rounder handles. Sound like 5-ply didn't work out for All-Clad.

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                olympia RE: Chemicalkinetics Apr 21, 2011 06:01 PM

                Sounds like they're updating the current line to look like the D5 so I guess they don't need to different styles that are so similar. Guess D5 is sticking around in the brushed. *sigh*

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                  Chemicalkinetics RE: olympia Apr 21, 2011 08:40 PM

                  Olympia,

                  Yeah, I guess All Clad must have done some marketing survey and notice the customers like the overall new design, but didn't really care for the 5-ply vs 3-ply. Well, a lot of people do like the newer handle and also the rolled edge (aka flared rim). So maybe these two design features will be kept. If you like the 5-ply, I guess it is time to hunt down the reminding d5 cookware.

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                    olympia RE: Chemicalkinetics Apr 21, 2011 09:01 PM

                    No, they're still keeping the D5 just in the brushed finish. That's still full price and in stock online and in store. It's just the shiny version that they're doing away with. It seems that the updated 3 ply will look identical to the current D5 (shiny). So, I could see doing away with one. What I'd like to know is what the pricing will be like with the updated tri-ply.
                    I think this might just be a good time for me to commit to copper!

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                      Chemicalkinetics RE: olympia Apr 21, 2011 09:12 PM

                      :) Thanks. Somehow I got the impression from other posts that D5 is being discontinued. Why don't you like the brushed finish? Brushed finish remains its look longer.

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                        olympia RE: Chemicalkinetics Apr 21, 2011 09:21 PM

                        It's not that I don't like it - I just like everything to match! I guess I'll probably like the new tri-ply just fine for looks. I've got three pieces in the D5 and contemplating another one or two with the sale. I'm not sure if I'd do better just to wait and get the new tri-ply or hope the D5 makes its way to the WS outlets.

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                          Chemicalkinetics RE: olympia Apr 21, 2011 09:31 PM

                          "I just like everything to match ... I've got three pieces in the D5"

                          Ah, now that makes sense. You already have some d5.

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                            olympia RE: Chemicalkinetics Apr 21, 2011 09:35 PM

                            I'm not really all that concerned with the five layers so I should quit my bellyaching! I've got a saucier in the tri-ply that's treated me well but it also has a rolled rim. My preference really just is for the rolled rims and more comfortable (to me) handles. If the tri-ply will have these features at a potentially lower price as well as at retailers that have sales and specials that will be a good thing.

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                  kaleokahu RE: Chemicalkinetics Apr 21, 2011 07:29 PM

                  Hi, Chem:

                  Yup. 3, 5, 7, 9 [layers], who's been shucking all the time??? All-Clad! All-Clad! NEW! IMPROVED!

                  Anyone know how THIS 3-layer differs from prior iterations (besides the felt bags, CQC #, and better branding? This has Wharton/Harvard/Stanford MBA written all over it.

                  Cheers,
                  Kaleo

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                    Chemicalkinetics RE: kaleokahu Apr 21, 2011 08:44 PM

                    :) Yep, but in all fairness, it is pretty difficult to innovate cookware. We have cast iron cookware hundred years ago and we still have them. Same as copper cookware or ceramic cookware. There is only so much can be done to cookware.

                    "This has Wharton/Harvard/Stanford MBA written all over it. "

                    I almost thought you said "Hogwart"

                    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bfEx06PBU60...

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                      kaleokahu RE: Chemicalkinetics Apr 21, 2011 09:04 PM

                      Hi, Chem:

                      Yes, as usual, you are right: there is little with which to usefully innovate (at least given our place in time) in cookware. This means that, generally, market forces must seek ways to convince the consumer that real innovation HAS taken place ("It's PATENTED!", d5, 11 layers, etc.), when in fact most modern cookware is more akin to seasonal fashion than tools.

                      What I'd *like* to see is a bit subtler, honest approach from the manufacturers, in which they at least TALK about *refining* what already works well. IMO better handles are a perfect example--if AC did a mea culpa and said: "This handle is so much more comfortable and ergonomic, we just had to design a new pan to go with it", I'd respect that a lot more. Or, PUBLISH a study showing that 6mm of aluminum in the core is superior to the 3mm the competition uses. Some honoring of what has been a great history of (the best) cookware seems to me to be a sales point (e.g., "We studied what made Wear-Ever/Griswold/Jaeggi great, and we think we've improved it a bit, all for this low, low, price.")

                      Less flimflammery and more utility. Yes, the margins for improvement are (presently) small, but folks are willing to spend for value. Just don't deceive me!

                      Kaleo

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                        Chemicalkinetics RE: kaleokahu Apr 21, 2011 09:15 PM

                        "when in fact most modern cookware is more akin to seasonal fashion than tools."

                        Agree, and I can think another famous cookware brand which routinely changes its fashion look. :)

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                cutipie721 RE: KurtK9 Apr 21, 2011 10:12 AM

                I just picked up a d5 9" french skillet for $3x at the WS outlet this past weekend. It was 50% off originally plus a coupon for extra 15% off. If you live close to a WS outlet, I wouldn't bother putting AC on the registry since you can almost always get them for MUCH less.

                You can also get these deals online at cookwarenmore.com

                Have you considered All Clad copper core, Mauviel M'cook, Scanpan CSX, or Viking?

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                  c oliver RE: cutipie721 Apr 21, 2011 07:55 PM

                  What is "$3x" please?

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                    cutipie721 RE: c oliver Apr 22, 2011 06:23 AM

                    Thirty something dollars.

                    I looked at the receipt and it's actually $38.

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                  KurtK9 RE: KurtK9 Apr 22, 2011 06:23 AM

                  How does the Calphalon Tri-Ply compare to All-Clad's 3-ply series? It's much cheaper (over 2x), has flared rims, comfortable handles, and tons of pieces in the set. I'd like to get a set that'll last me forever, should I wait on registering for the All-Clad or get more pieces of the Calphalon?

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                    olympia RE: KurtK9 Apr 24, 2011 09:23 AM

                    Just reporting back. I was in WS yesterday to pick up the 6 qt saute (the price still hurt after discount and all)! They maintained that the line is not discontinued. However, I checked online today and some of the pieces are no long available including all of the sauce pans and the saucier. Some of the saute pans are back in stock but I don't take it to be a good sign that there are no sauce pans available. hths.

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                      KurtK9 RE: olympia Apr 24, 2011 12:27 PM

                      Thanks for the update, we looked at the Calphalon Tri-Ply and the All-Clad Stainless and I just can't see the premium for All-Clad. The D5 at least was better, the current All-Clad Stainless just seems way over priced to me. I think we'll register for the Calphalon for now, but if the D5 becomes available at other retailers or the 20th Anniversary is amazing we could change it.

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                        olympia RE: KurtK9 Apr 24, 2011 04:04 PM

                        Just to clarify - not sure if this has been covered upthread or not - the D5 in the brushed finish is not going anywhere. I agree that the premium is pretty large. I've enjoyed the pieces that I have but I'm wondering if the money would have been better spent toward a collection of copper. I'm going to keep working on that question for a while though.

                        I may have missed something but what is the 20th Anniversary?

                        If you have your heart set on the shiny D5 I'd buy now or keep in touch with the outlets about their stock. For a much lower prices I'd be tempted to check out the tri-ply line by tramontina which is also highly regarded.

                        Let us know how it goes!

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                          KurtK9 RE: olympia Apr 24, 2011 06:33 PM

                          I'll have to go back and check out the All-Clad again, my fiance seems to want a non-brushed exterior and is wondering whether the D5 brushed is worth the cost.

                          The 20th Anniversary seems to be the reason the Stainless All-Clad is on clearance everywhere, from what the All-Clad rep told me via e-mail it'll update the current stainless line, hopefully with better handles and lips on the pans. I might just leave the Calphalon on my registry and see what July/August brings in terms of All-Clad and go from there.

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                            olympia RE: KurtK9 Apr 24, 2011 07:45 PM

                            I think the update (didn't realize that it was called 20th Anniversary) will be just like the D5 shiny. I think that's why it might be discontinued as well as the regular tri-ply. I just hope the anniversary stuff isn't as pricey as the D5.

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                          knet RE: KurtK9 Apr 24, 2011 05:15 PM

                          All Clad Stainless would be far better than Calphalon tri ply. I've tried the Calphalon and it does not compare to All Clad. As olympia says, take a look at the Tramontina Tri ply line for something more comparable to All Clad for a much lower price.

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                        sylviedavid RE: KurtK9 May 3, 2011 08:44 AM

                        I heard from an All-clad rep that Williams Sonoma was initially awarded exclusivity for the D5 line, but when they saw that WS were not selling the D5 well, they flipped and aborted the WS exclusivity and offered it to all retailers. Naturally, Williams Sonoma felt screwed and discontinued the line.

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                          olympia RE: sylviedavid May 3, 2011 07:47 PM

                          As far as I can tell it's not going anywhere. It's in store and online now.

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                            RudysEquipment_Supplies RE: sylviedavid May 6, 2011 01:50 PM

                            D5 is still an exclusive...

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                            BigE RE: KurtK9 May 6, 2011 01:32 PM

                            FYI, Williams Sonoma is selling a 9" and 11" d5 french skillet set for $99 right now.

                            Seems like a pretty good deal to me...anyone? I have no stainless steel in my kitchen (hangs head in shame), but this might be too good to pass up.

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                              olympia RE: BigE May 6, 2011 03:47 PM

                              I don't have the french skillets but I've got the saute pans. I really love them. I think two for $99 (or go on a demo day for 10% off!) seems like a good deal. I remember that they were going for about that for seconds at the outlet.

                              What would you be using them for?

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                                MCFAC RE: olympia Jul 18, 2011 07:25 PM

                                Wow, a little confusing. However, I hit the WS sale today, and picked up a few pieces of D5, some in the brushed finish, because the prices were lower, and some in the smooth finish. In brushed: 1.5 qt. sauce for $50, 3 qt sauce for $100, 4 qt. sauce $100, 4 Qt. Saute and Simmer for $80. In smooth, 2 qt. saucier for $70. Also the 12 qt. multi pot for $150. They threw in a gift of a lasagna pan, cookbook and oven mits. Everything new in boxes. All that for $550 before tax seemed like a great deal, but I didn't know about the outlet stores!

                                My only concern is caring for the brushed finish. I already had a large saute pan, and I notice that it is developing a strange patina. I think it's from the dishwasher, as the marks look like water marks. Maybe it's hard water, or the soap. I tried BKF, it didn't make any difference. Maybe I should try a vinegar soak? I saw some people saying the brushed finish would hold up longer, but it seems more delicate to me. Any pointers? That outer layer is brushed SS according to the packaging.

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                              blondelle RE: KurtK9 Jul 19, 2011 03:26 AM

                              Blooomies will have the d5 in a few weeks. What I heard was that WS had the exclusive but weren't selling enough of it, so All-Clad decided to roll it out to other stores. This POed WS so they dropped the line.

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                                AmyEsq RE: KurtK9 Jul 24, 2011 05:44 AM

                                I was in Macy's a few days ago and they have all their regular stainless at 40% off. They also had some of the new pieces in stock. The Macy's sales rep said that All-Clad had so many complaints about the lids and handles being made overseas that they are now making it in the US.

                                I really hope Groupe gets it together...I will be upset if they ruin my favorite cookware.

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                                  Jay F RE: AmyEsq Jul 24, 2011 09:22 AM

                                  <<<The Macy's sales rep said that All-Clad had so many complaints about the lids and handles being made overseas that they are now making it in the US.>>>
                                  I think they should issue free replacements for all the lightweight lids they had made in China.

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