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Falafel: canned chickpeas, or soaked, dried chickpeas?

ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 05:07 AM

I've decided I'd like to try and make my own falafel - but am not sure which way to go.

I can find recipes which call for canned chickpeas, and recipes which call for soaked, dried chickpeas (but not cooked). I even found a recipe that called for chickpea flour. I imagine that the end result between all 3 recipes would be quite different.

Does anybody with prior falafelling experience have any comparisons to note? I'd greatly appreciate your opinions.

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  1. coll RE: ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 05:25 AM

    Felafel I always use dried, the one time I used canned they fell apart. Hummus I always use canned though, it's not so critical there.

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      ursy_ten RE: coll Apr 18, 2011 06:06 AM

      Thank you coll - I was a bit unsure because the dried soaked chickpeas were not cooked (in the recipes I round), but I just tried a couple (soaked about 10 hours) and they were yum!

      I'm a bit loath to eat too many (before cooking) though, I wonder if I'd end up with a bad case of gas!

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      jvanderh RE: ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 06:17 AM

      Didn't know you could start with raw ones. If your recipe works out, could you post it?

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        shaebones RE: jvanderh Apr 18, 2011 06:26 AM

        Dried, soaked 24 hours. NEVER canned.
        Scroll down to second recipe. These are great!!

        http://www.madriverkitchen.com/

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          ursy_ten RE: shaebones Apr 18, 2011 06:29 AM

          Yeah - I did read in a comment somewhere that the canned ones end up too wet and can fall apart - but strangely most of the recipes I've come across so far are for the canned type!

          Thanks for the link - I will investigate :)

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            jvanderh RE: shaebones Apr 18, 2011 06:39 AM

            Cool, thanks! This post is timely-- I've got some dried chickpeas that I wanted to make into falafel this weekend, but it all seemed too time-intensive.

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            ursy_ten RE: jvanderh Apr 18, 2011 06:28 AM

            I will :)

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            rasputina RE: ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 06:31 AM

            add me to the dried and soaked never canned group.

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              ursy_ten RE: rasputina Apr 18, 2011 06:42 AM

              Methinks the canned group is going to be rather small, judging by early replies. Thanks for your input!

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                jvanderh RE: ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 06:56 AM

                Well, in the interest of devil's advocacy, canned is a heck of a lot faster, and I think that metallic taste may be undetectable by the time you season and cook them. But, if you've got the time and inclination, dried is cheaper and may taste better.

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                  ursy_ten RE: jvanderh Apr 18, 2011 02:48 PM

                  Sure! One of these days, I think I'll try a side by side comparison.

            2. DiveFan RE: ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 06:03 PM

              There are Many previous topics on falafel and hopefully the search engine will let us find them.

              I've had good results with both canned and soaked/cooked dried chickpeas. Many people will advise you to rinse and rub the chickpeas together in order to remove the skins. The above MadRiverKitchen recipe is intriguing but non-traditional (baked).

              My important success factor was to avoid blandness by adding enough fresh, minced herbs like parsley and scallion. While mashing the ingredients together I might add a little chickpea flour just to help bind things together. I prefer to shape them into 'hockey pucks', let them set 'for a while' and then pan fry them in ~1/4 inch of olive oil (easier for me than deep frying).

              EDIT - found Chow recipe: http://www.chow.com/recipes/25796-fab...

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                1sweetpea RE: DiveFan Apr 18, 2011 06:23 PM

                During a brief stint as a raw foodist, I made falafel using chickpeas that I'd soaked and sprouted from dried organic chickpeas. I then ground them in my food processor with the appropriate herbs, spices and seasonings, formed balls and dehydrated them at a low temperature for days. They were delicious! I'd do it again, but I'd use a higher temperature in my dehydrator, as I'm not married to the laws of raw. It was an interesting and healthy alternative to the deep fried method. Sprouting the chickpeas was an interesting and worthwhile, though time consuming project.

                To make the more traditional version, I'd suggest a mix of chickpeas and fava beans. The fava beans are tasty and add an interesting green hue. Israeli recipes tend to be chickpea-oriented, while Lebanese recipes lean toward fava beans. I think a mix is best, for flavour and texture. You be the judge. Favas need to be peeled of their tough skins, though, so they add a bit of work. Whatever you do, avoid the boxed mixes. They produce a radically inferior product.

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                  jvanderh RE: 1sweetpea Apr 18, 2011 06:42 PM

                  Interesting! If I have some leftover falafels. I'll put them in a slow oven overnight and see what transpires.

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                LUV_TO_EAT RE: ursy_ten Apr 18, 2011 08:03 PM

                Gonna try this recipe soon. Just made hummus today using dried, soaked, pressure cooked chickpeas. Delicious. Now have to go buy some more dried chickpeas.

                1. ursy_ten RE: ursy_ten Apr 20, 2011 03:08 AM

                  Thanks everyone for your contributions! I tried a falafel experiment so I thought I'd post it here for anyone who was interested.

                  I made one batch of this recipe (dried, soaked chickpeas)
                  http://www.sooogood.org/iraqi_food_re...

                  And *tried* to make one batch of this recipe because it intrigued me.
                  http://www.bobsredmill.com/recipes_de...
                  It uses chickpea flour. I thought besan would be an adequate substitute, since besan is, after all, chickpea flour. Well, it didn't work, it was like a thick paste. So the can of chickpeas that I was planning to use for a third recipe in the experiment got blended up with this recipe just to save it.

                  I'll have to do the canned one another time.

                  I had also planned to do fried vs baked, but I got home late from work, headachey and tired - so I just fried them all.

                  Recipe number one (dried, soaked beans) was lighter textured, with a crisper crust and lovely greenish tinge inside. The chickpea flavour was nutty and subtle.

                  Recipe number two (besan flour and canned chickpeas) was more brownish inside, and the outside didn't really crisp up. The texture was heavier, and doughier (totally to be expected). It tasted a lot more "chickpea-ish" (though I have to admit, I've had more canned chickpeas than dried, so that descriptor could just be a reflection of this fact).

                  The verdict:
                  Daughter: liked recipe 1 (dried) better for the texture, and liked recipe 2 (besan/canned) for the flavour.
                  Husband: liked them both, but recipe 2 a bit better than recipe 1 (probably understandable, he sometimes eats a can of chickpeas for lunch, just the chickpeas by themselves)
                  Me: I liked recipe 1 the best, for the texture and flavour. I found recipe 2 a little bit heavy and stodgy, and I really liked the subtle nuttiness of recipe 1.

                  So, I think next experiment might be to marry the two recipes together and see what I get! Hopefully that way everyone in the family is happy and I won't have to make 2 different recipes every time I decide to make falafel!

                  Oh, but I still have to do the dried vs. canned...

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                    jvanderh RE: ursy_ten Apr 20, 2011 06:16 AM

                    Thanks for reporting back!

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                      ursy_ten RE: jvanderh Apr 20, 2011 06:29 AM

                      No problems - I'll try to remember to post my findings for future experiments too :)

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                    HillJ RE: ursy_ten Apr 21, 2011 06:29 PM

                    I checked out this really fun and flavorful take on falafels and was truly surprised by the results.
                    Ever make a falafel on a waffle iron? Meet Fawaffles: http://nofaceplate.blogspot.com/2011/...

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                      ursy_ten RE: HillJ Apr 22, 2011 06:16 AM

                      Ooh! You know, I've been wanting a waffle iron for awhile - now I have one more reason to get one :)

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                        HillJ RE: ursy_ten Apr 22, 2011 06:18 AM

                        I ate the leftovers with cucumbers for breakfast! I would definately make these again.

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                          ursy_ten RE: HillJ Apr 22, 2011 06:24 AM

                          Thanks for reporting back - they look great!

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                      LUV_TO_EAT RE: ursy_ten Apr 22, 2011 11:04 AM

                      So I bought some more chickpeas on Wednesday, soaked them overnight and made this recipe yesterday. (I left out the lemon because I forgot it).

                      http://www.madriverkitchen.com/2011/0...

                      Baked them off under a broiler. I like my falafel's crispy so I cooked them a bit longer and they dried out a bit but still tasty.

                      It's Friday!!!! I had some falafel mix leftover and took some black beans which I have on hand, mashed them up, added the mix, some Frank's red hot sauce and worcestershire sauce. Fried them in a pan for a veggie burger (no bun) with shredded lettuce w/lemon dressing, tomato and some homemade hummus. It was sooo good.

                      So make extra mix next time and make yourself a veggie burger for another meal.

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                        ursy_ten RE: LUV_TO_EAT Apr 22, 2011 03:32 PM

                        Great idea! Do you have any preference between broiled and fried for texture, etc? (I know the second time had extra things in it... but still, I'm interested)

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                          LUV_TO_EAT RE: ursy_ten Apr 22, 2011 03:47 PM

                          I liked the fried better...perhaps the oil gives it little extra something (I like crispy crust). Broiled is healthier though. Gonna tried broiled again but for the twenty minutes as per the recipe.

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                            ursy_ten RE: LUV_TO_EAT Apr 22, 2011 03:49 PM

                            Yeh, I like the crispy crust too - but like you, I'm trying to be a health conscious.
                            Thanks for your thoughts!

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                        shaun theewe RE: ursy_ten Nov 10, 2011 05:01 PM

                        The different forms of chickpeas produce different textures and tastes. Canned chickpeas are already cooked and good for hummus and cutlets. Chickpea flour is used for pakoras (baji). Raw dried chickpeas are soaked and ground to make falafel.

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                          Stein the Fine RE: shaun theewe Nov 21, 2011 08:58 AM

                          The important difference is not dried vs. canned, but raw vs. cooked. The metal can taste has nothing to do w/ the inferiority of canned chickpeas for falafel. The problem is that the street food known and loved as falafel is made w/ UNCOOKED chickpeas and/or fava beans, fresh or dried and reconstituted by soaking--NEVER precooked before forming the balls or patties. CANNED ARE COOKED.

                          Those "recipes" that call for canned chickpeas and lots of breadcrumbs and/or flour to create a fritter that will hold together while being fried taste watery and bland compared to the real thing no matter how you season them. They don't deserve the name "falafel" IMO. Ditto any recipe that suggests pressure cooking the chickpeas/beans. The abominations that result are to real falafel as Chef Boyardee spaghetti-os is to true pasta w/ marinara sauce.

                          Any questions?

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                            jvanderh RE: Stein the Fine Nov 21, 2011 11:30 AM

                            The person you replied to said that raw chickpeas are used for falafel, and this was also discussed extensively upthread when the question was asked.

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                              Stein the Fine RE: jvanderh Nov 22, 2011 07:43 AM

                              I was expanding on shaun theewe's post, and clarifying that the need for uncooked chickpeas in falafel is an issue of FUNCTION and authenticity, not a matter of opinion or taste. And I checked, no other poster made this point. I was trying to spare cooks like ursy_ten from wasting time and ingredients, including a whole lot of frying oil.

                              Does your post have any other point than to tell me I had no right to post mine?

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