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Ediblethoughts Apr 17, 2011 07:47 PM

Other than Lobster Trap, any other place to have good (simple) lobster?

And by simple I mean just a tail and melted butter with some nice sides.

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Lobster Trap
1962 Avenue Rd, Toronto, ON M5M4A1, CA

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    Big Kahuna 1 Aug 24, 2011 07:56 AM

    The last non-Cantonese preparation of lobster I had was at Lobster Royale on the east side of Yonge Street in Thornhill. It was very well prepared and served simply with drawn butter. The lobsters we had were whole. Invariably, any lobster tail meal you have in any restaurant is a frozen one (as Charles Yu has pointed out) and not of the "Homarus Americanus" ( Maine or Canadian Maritime) variety of lobster. These tails may be from Caribbean waters, Central America, or South Africa. The texture and taste of these tails are totally different from the whole lobsters we get in T.O. restaurants. If you do insist on simple tails with butter, any suggestions from CHers above will do.

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      Ediblethoughts Aug 24, 2011 06:56 PM

      I doubt Starfish used a frozen lobster. And it was definitely a whole lobster. But as I said above, some were not keen on the texture. The lobster claw was certainly less chewy than the tail. If I'm near Thornhill, I'll give your suggestion some consideration. In any case, I think we kind of got the whole yen out of our systems (and I'm feeling wistful about Chinese-prepared lobster again...).

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        Full tummy Aug 25, 2011 10:50 AM

        Sounds as though maybe they overcooked it?

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          Ediblethoughts Aug 25, 2011 06:57 PM

          Yeah, I think that's quite likely.

    2. Ediblethoughts Aug 23, 2011 06:51 PM

      I tried Starfish for the lobster meal and I wasn't that impressed. They nicely cleaned off all the shell but the lobster was really, really chewy. I didn't so much mind it but my dining companions were not impressed. And at $38 a pound.... also, the chickpeas in one of the fish dishes (done with a reasonably nice curry) were really firm. Way too firm.

      A meal that required a bit more chewing than should have been necessary really....

      On the plus side, service was very helpful and friendly and chocolate creme brulee was quite nice as was the seafood soup. Still, overall I don't think I'd go back.

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        toronto guy Apr 19, 2011 09:40 PM

        Lobster Royale is the nearest facsimile

        It was opened in '95 by a former Lobster Trap staffer

        The menus are identical

        http://www.lobsterroyale.com/menu.htm

        Enjoy

        TG

        7323 Yonge Street

        Markham, ON

        (905) 707-0546

        1. shekamoo Apr 18, 2011 12:30 PM

          I know this is not what you asked, but personally, having been addicted to the Cantonese preparation of lobster, I just cannot bring myself to order the 'simple' version anymore. you may or may not have tried it, but if you have not, I think O'Mei will be revelatory. just sayin

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            acd123 Apr 18, 2011 12:42 PM

            What are some other dishes to order at O'Mei?

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              shekamoo Apr 18, 2011 12:51 PM

              better qualified people than I have discussed this on the board at some length, personally we usually go in a group of 2 and take on a giant lobster, so there is no room for anything else, at best a plate of veggie!!

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                1sweetpea Apr 18, 2011 02:44 PM

                Wow! Shekamoo, how big a lobster do you order when there are only 2 of you? 9 people in my party had trouble with a 13.25 lb monster done 4 ways. We had other dishes as well, but wished we hadn't bothered with so much food. We had an excellent whole grouper that was steamed with soy, scallions and ginger, some pea shoots with garlic, steamed rice and another dish or two ordered by the one diner that doesn't eat shellfish. I think complimentary desserts were delivered as well. It was insanity. The next time I go, I'll take 3 or 4 friends and just stick to a smaller lobster and a vegetable dish or two, such as tung choi/ong choy and either pea shoots or gai laan.

                I just reread the original post and since the OP was only looking for lobster tails, I'd add that most good steakhouses can handle lobster tails with drawn butter.

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                  shekamoo Apr 18, 2011 05:10 PM

                  last one was 7 lbs and change!! It was a feast! and not to have hijacked the thread, agreed that any decent steakhouse will be able to pull that off...

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                  szw Apr 19, 2011 02:58 PM

                  Can you tell me roughly how much is your bill for a dinner for 2 like that?

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                    shekamoo Apr 19, 2011 03:49 PM

                    $200

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                Ediblethoughts Apr 18, 2011 06:46 PM

                I've tried lobster in the green onion/ginger Chinese style and I enjoy it. However, a dining companion wants it the more traditional (non-Chinese) way.

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                mstacey42 Apr 18, 2011 08:48 AM

                I had a delicous plain lobster at Phoebe's Zee Grill on Mt. Pleasant about 8 months ago--can't remember if it was steamed or boiled, but it was some of the sweetest, most succulent I've ever had. Good fries, as well.

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                Zee Grill
                641 Mt Pleasant Rd, Toronto, ON M4S, CA

                1. Charles Yu Apr 18, 2011 06:17 AM

                  Starfish!

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                    JennaBean Apr 18, 2011 06:49 AM

                    Second Starfish.

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                      1sweetpea Apr 18, 2011 07:37 AM

                      Starfish or House of Chan.

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                      House of Chan
                      876 Eglinton Ave W, Toronto, ON M6C2B6, CA

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                        Everythingtarian Apr 18, 2011 08:59 AM

                        Ill 4th Starfish. love that place too!

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                          Ediblethoughts Apr 18, 2011 07:00 PM

                          I've been meaning to go back to H of C at some point; however, I don't get the sense they do lobster in the way I'm looking for. Does Starfish? I'll look at that idea for a steak house.

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                            prima Apr 19, 2011 07:22 AM

                            Starfish serves the lobsters plain, with drawn butter and lemon on the side, which sounds like the preparation you're looking for. That is why so many of us recommended Starfish after reading your post. ;-)

                            Mind you, Starfish includes the claws, the little side legs and the tomalley (the lobster's digestive gland, which some people consider a delicacy) on the plate. If I'm paying $28/lb (or whatever the current price is), and most lobsters are in the 1.25-1.75 lb range, you can bet I want the whole enchilada.

                            If you want really good, fresh tasting, simple lobster, and nice sides (salads, frites, etc.) Starfish is the place to go.

                            If you're only looking for the tail, you might be better off going to a steakhouse. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if Rodney's, Starfish or Zee would serve you a lobster tail, without the clawmeat or lobster guts, if you ask nicely. Might be a good idea to call in advance, to see if they'll agree to this.

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                              Charles Yu Apr 19, 2011 03:30 PM

                              Lobster tail are usually from ' southern varietal' and 'previuosly frozen'! Can tell by looking at the shell ( colour, texture and pattern )

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                                jayt90 Apr 19, 2011 04:20 PM

                                That's what I was thinking, too. You don't need to go to Lobster Trap, or Starfish for frozen lobster tails or langoustine with melted butter.

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                                Ediblethoughts Apr 22, 2011 02:00 PM

                                Thanks for that explanation. I will give Starfish a call and see...

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                                glickjor Apr 19, 2011 09:07 PM

                                I love House of Chan for lobster - order it broiled - it comes chopped in half with a side of butter - I also crave the sides that it comes with (fried onion strings and silver dollar potatos)

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                                House of Chan
                                876 Eglinton Ave W, Toronto, ON M6C2B6, CA

                          2. re: Charles Yu
                            prima Apr 18, 2011 09:27 AM

                            Love the lobster at Starfish. They fly their lobsters in from the Maritimes, as does Rodney's.

                            Starfish also acccomodates guests who wish to share a lobster with a friend, splitting it down the middle, and serving each half on a separate plate. Which is a good thing for a CH like me, who is often lacking in self-moderation. ;-)

                            For anyone who likes soft shell crab, the Chesapeake soft shell crab season opens May 15, 2011, so expect to see some Chesapeake soft shell crab on the menu at Starfish after May 15th. The current soft shell crabs that have been showing up at Toro's, Nota Bene, Malena and Campagnolo, are most likely Floridian in origin.

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                            Everythingtarian Apr 18, 2011 05:48 AM

                            the wife and I love Rodney's on King. Great atmosphere, great oysters, very helpful staff...and the fries! yum!

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