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Kayakkid613 Apr 15, 2011 02:43 PM

Where is your favorite place to get a dozen bagels in Boston?

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    Ronzoni Apr 24, 2011 04:51 PM

    Life's a Bagel, 29 Washington St. in Canton. A hole in the wall in a Cobbs Corner ( Canton, Sharon, Stoughton line ) strip mall. Basically just bagels, cream cheeses and coffee, take out only, cash only, fresh hot bagels and fast moving lines out the door on weekends.

    1. Karl S Apr 23, 2011 04:15 PM

      Rosenfeld & Katz (the latter being more traditionally (smaller) sized).

      Good bagels: must be boiled, must have a dense crumb by use of malt instead of other sugars that encourage too much airiness, should not be too big, and should have traditional flavorings (egg, seeds, onion/garlic, salt; nothing sweet). They should being staling quickly (not as fast as a proper hard roll, but still within a half a day). They should feel like lead on your teeth and in your stomach.

      Most people actually don't like really good bagels. Hence the dominance of bread with holes that imitate them. The NY bagel world has been in decline for the past generation, with lots of large, mediocre bagels driving out the better quality items. The imitations are cheaper to make and more appealing to more people for differing reasons.

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        threedogs Apr 23, 2011 09:09 PM

        Karl, I agree wholeheartedly on all points you mentioned. Which is why I'm really going to attempt making (good - hopefully) ones.

        I do hope to try both Rosenfeld & Katz - I was in Chelsea yesterday, but, of course, I'm sure they were closed. At any rate, I was (am) in no shape to even add one more (even a short) stop. Have too much pain in my knee right now, and my expedition to Restaurant Depot took all I had! (but it was oh-so worth it).

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        twentyoystahs Apr 21, 2011 11:44 AM

        Hmm I wonder if I'll get flamed if I say I really enjoy a bagel fresh out of the oven at Brueggers. You definitely have to eat it within an hour of it being made, otherwise they end up being really tough and chewy, and if the timing is right, I think they are pretty good.

        Also agree that Katz in Chelsea makes a good bagel, as does Rosenfeld's in Newton. But in Boston proper, I head to Brueggers and take my chances.

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          teezeetoo Apr 21, 2011 01:04 PM

          i always use breuggers as my back up if i can't get to rosenfelds. the bagels are smaller than at the other chains or local bakeries, and when fresh have a good crust to interior ratio (not too puffy). They are boiled and baked as they should be. Not the perfect bagel but an acceptable bagel.

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            StriperGuy Apr 25, 2011 10:42 AM

            Personally I have really come around on Breuggers. I think they make a good, to excellent product, as good as any of the other's mentioned in this thread.

            Katz, and Rosenfeld's are also excellent. I feel that Kupel's is not as good as it was.

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            hckybg Apr 21, 2011 02:22 PM

            You're good, you're good. Just don't start talking up Lender's and everything will be okay.

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            ajkessel Apr 21, 2011 06:22 AM

            Cafe Fresh Bagel in Dedham (896 Highland Ave) is the best we've found anywhere near Roslindale. Certainly respectable -- they do enough business that there are usually several varieties that are still warm from the oven.

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            896 Highland Ave, Needham, MA 02494

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              Klunco Apr 20, 2011 01:53 PM

              As much as I love a poppyseed bagel with lox, cucumber, tomato, red onion, and cream cheese, growing up in Boston I was just never much of a bagel conossieur and while I heard friends from NYC complain about the quality of bagels here none of them could ever explain to me what was so bad about them.

              What is the perfect bagel to you and what makes it perfect? Is there a difference between NYC & Montreal bagels? Do toppings/cream cheese come into play?

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                lc02139 Apr 20, 2011 07:41 PM

                I don't know about Montreal bagels, but what I like in a ny bagel is a good crust (boiled?) on the outside, good dense yeasty chewy interior, there should be enough turnover that at least one type is still warm, but they should be good warm, cold and even a day later. I find bruegers to be too light. and fluffy.

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                  threedogs Apr 21, 2011 08:57 AM

                  That's my definition of a good bagel, too. I've had Montreal bagels (didn't have them there - was gifted a few bags). I enjoyed them but only because I think of them as something different than my beloved bagel - sweeter because they don't use salt in the recipe. Same w/the stuff I used to buy at my (former-I moved) local Russian grocery store. May have been bialyls. Not sure, as the label was Russian. Loved them as a different treat, but they still didn't fill my yet-to-be-satisfied bagel craving.

                  After the holidays I am SO working on making my own. Hey, if I'm successful, you're all invited. ;-] (haha - imagining my teeny apt filled w/bagel discerning chowhounds, lol)

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                    GretchenS Apr 21, 2011 02:33 PM

                    If my 15 YO neighbor can make them, you can too! http://www.fireandflour.com/food-blog... Hers are fabulous.

              2. okra Apr 20, 2011 06:48 AM

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/725210

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                  mmocpi Apr 19, 2011 06:44 PM

                  I like Bagel Rising in Allston.

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                  1243 Commonwealth Ave, Boston, MA 02134

                  1. ipsofatso Apr 19, 2011 06:07 PM

                    Abraham's in the 'Port I also happen to like. Boiled and baked just like the real deal.

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                    11 Liberty St, Newburyport, MA

                    1. peregrine Apr 19, 2011 11:43 AM

                      This week is Passover, so you won't find kosher bagels anywhere.

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                        threedogs Apr 20, 2011 08:15 AM

                        Thanks for mentioning this! I might have planned an expedition to Chelsea just for the bagels, not thinking about Passover - would have been VERY disappointed, lol!

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                        RVT Apr 18, 2011 07:19 PM

                        I wouldn't agree that there are no bagels worth eating around here. Too many people make it sound like everything is a waste of time. Nonsense. In addition to some of the ones others have mentioned, If you're near the south shore try Gunther Tooties. There are several with one right in Quincy Center near the T, and I find them perfectly satisfactory.

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                        2053 Washington St, Hanover, MA 02339

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                          ipsofatso Apr 19, 2011 11:27 AM

                          Needs mention:

                          Katz Bagel Bakery
                          139 Park Street, Chelsea, MA 02150-2727
                          (617) 884-9738

                          pass the matzoh!!! happy Passover ‎

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                          Katz Bagel Bakery
                          139 Park St, Chelsea, MA

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                            threedogs Apr 19, 2011 05:08 PM

                            Yes - Happy Passover! I can't believe that I lived in Malden all my life (except for this part of it, lol), and I never knew about Katz. Still haven't remembered to find it whenever I'm out in that area.

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                              ipsofatso Apr 19, 2011 06:05 PM

                              It definitely off the beaten path but Katz's is really the best old-school chewy bagel of your dreams that one can get N. of Boston. I make sure that whenever I happen to be in or around Revere, E. Boston or Chelsea I stop in and grab two dozen as they freeze well too.

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                                threedogs Apr 19, 2011 07:29 PM

                                I am SO getting some as soon as I get over there. I'm not in the area anymore, but I go back there to shop once & awhile. Thanks for the tip! Love the old-school chewy bagels - and hoping when I *finally* get around to trying my hand at baking, I am successful at replicating that chewiness.

                        2. ipsofatso Apr 18, 2011 01:29 PM

                          I am Brooklyn born with strong NY roots and have made Bagel World (Salem, Reading, Danvers) my regular stop. Fantastic bagels and $7.25 a bakers dozen

                          Their french toast bagel is fantastic and I am an everything bagel kinda guy. So are their sandwiches good and the coffee is strong and flavorful.

                          http://www.bagelworld.net/

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                            threedogs Apr 18, 2011 04:16 PM

                            I used to live on the North Shore, and I thought their bagels were too soft & smushy. I hate smooshy bagels. (Have only been to the one in Salem).

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                              ipsofatso Apr 19, 2011 10:27 AM

                              I think they are specially formulated for toasting, so maybe that's why you found them smooshy. I don't they just seem fresh. Sure, I have a friend who will FedEx me some Tal bagels from NYC but the best on the NS is Bagel World. Well, and Katz's is pretty great but I am not in Chelsea too often,

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                                threedogs Apr 19, 2011 05:06 PM

                                I toasted them - well, actually, the way I love me bagels is to cut them, them put them on bake in my toaster oven. Mmm - crunchy on the outside, hot & soft on the inside. Was so excited to get the Bagel World ones, only to be disappointed when they smooched flat.

                                I've seriously given up on finding any that I like. Day old Stop & Shop bagels fill my freezer til I start my attempt at baking my own, as soon as I get the barley malt I'm lacking (not super-fantastic, but they are, at least, not squishy, tops of what I can't stand - any day old bread is brought back to life w/a little water & some time in the oven).

                                I bake my own bread all the time - it's about time I learn how to do my own bagels.

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                                  stomachofsteel Apr 20, 2011 11:27 AM

                                  I've been thinking the same thing (if I can bake bread, I can bake bagels). At the risk of sending this into "Home Cooking" territory, there was a good post on bagel-making recently on Serious Eats. He links to a couple of different recipes.
                                  http://www.seriouseats.com/2011/03/ho...

                                  My wife and I try to pick up bagels when we are visiting her family in NJ, and then freeze them for future cravings. If I want to buy bagels around here, I usually go to Bagels by US in Arlington. As someone already mentioned, they have H&H Bagels. Not perfect but better than most of my alternatives. Until I start baking them, that is!

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                                    threedogs Apr 20, 2011 12:04 PM

                                    Good link - thanks! I *do* go to The Fresh Loaf (mentioned in the link that followed this link) all the time, and believe me, people there have dissected the art of bagel making, lol.

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                                      Jenny Ondioline Apr 20, 2011 01:54 PM

                                      Huh. That recipe looks entirely promising. I should experiment.

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                                      smtucker Apr 20, 2011 06:28 PM

                                      Homemade bagels are just like the ones I got from the corner deli in Brooklyn as a kid. Of all the recipes I have tried, I am most pleased with the Bread Baker's Apprentice. They are surprisingly easy to make, especially if you have a stand mixer [a heavy duty one.]

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                                  GretchenS Apr 19, 2011 08:20 AM

                                  I love Bagel World bagels too. Luckily for me they are a long drive away so I only get them a couple times a year.

                                3. CocoDan Apr 18, 2011 07:36 AM

                                  Rosenfeld's and Katz's stand up pretty well to a NY bagel. Have always served them to guests from Ny and NJ with great success. If those two don't satisfy you'll have to go to yankeeland.
                                  Enjoy,
                                  CocoDan

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                                    aburstyn Apr 17, 2011 11:25 AM

                                    cafe fresh in needham

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                                      winedude Apr 25, 2011 10:33 AM

                                      +1 for Cafe Fresh. I think there's as good as nearly any bagels I've had in NYC, and I've tried a lot of the famous places.

                                      I still need to get to Katz's though.

                                    2. nsenada Apr 16, 2011 06:54 PM

                                      I've heard the Walnut Street Market in Newton gets Montreal bagels somewhat regularly.

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                                        zach272 Apr 15, 2011 08:09 PM

                                        I really like the bagels at Rosenfeld's in Newton and Katz's in Chelsea. Most people will tell you that nothing in Boston can stand up to NYC, Montreal, etc., but I think these two can...

                                        That said, in my experience, the other bagels around Boston aren't too great. (Although I am a sucker for the occasional Au Bon Pain asiago cheese "bagel.")

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                                          CookieLee Apr 16, 2011 09:29 AM

                                          +1 for Rosenfeld's and Katz's. However, I will +1 for what Jenny says too!

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                                            teezeetoo Apr 16, 2011 10:01 AM

                                            rosenfelds, katz's, iggy's for a montreal style bagel, and breughers even though it's a chain. with due respect to jenny, kupel's bagels are close to inedible for size and puffiness.

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                                              hckybg Apr 16, 2011 10:17 PM

                                              Do you mean to say that Rosenfeld's, Katz's, and Iggy's actually have Montreal-style bagels (thinner, sweeter, etc.)? I haven't had the first two but Iggy's bagels that I have had are definitely not Montreal-style. They are good though - if a bit bready - if one needs a bagel. I haven't found anything I love yet in this area but find the bagels at Johnny's Foodmaster (in the bins) are actually not too bad when really fresh. A pretty generic bagel, but they have a decent chewiness, aren't too bready (a good crust to insides ratio), and have the standard bagel flavors: sesame, poppy, onion, everything, plain as well as blueberry and raisin.

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                                            LStaff Apr 16, 2011 08:26 PM

                                            Rosenfeld's are the best I've had in the area and are pretty good, and a step above Bruegher's which aren't bad, but not quite the level I experienced at a few shops I used to frequent in Rockland Co. NY when I lived in the area. May have to take a trip to Rosenfeld's tomorrow morning now.

                                            There is also a pretty decent bagel shop we used to frequent in Acton called Bagels Plus on Great Road in front of the Colonial Spirits lot.

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                                              LStaff Apr 17, 2011 06:34 PM

                                              Got a half dozen at Rosenfeld's this morning and they were not as good as I remembered them to be. By the time I got home (20 minutes from being handed the bag and still warm), they were already too hard and crusty for my likes. Sort of an airy breadiness on the inside too, not dense and soft.

                                              Next time I am craving bagels, I'll take the trip out to Acton instead and see how they live up to my memory..

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                                              katzzz Apr 20, 2011 04:06 PM

                                              I finally had Montreal bagels in Montreal last summer -- straight out of the oven at the legendary St. Viateur's -- and as someone who grew up on bagels in Brooklyn, I thought they were interesting but basically lousy: insubstantial and overly sweet. Iggy's bagels, which allegedly have some stylistic connection to Montreal (besides the fact that Iggy's founders spent time there) are not really at all like what I had in Montreal: way too chewy and none too tasty (and I say this is a huge fan of Iggy's breads in general). Hell, Breugger's is a better bagel than Iggy's. But, as other posters have pointed out, Katz's and Rosenfeld's are as good as you can get in Boston -- and both are nearly or as good as most bagel's you'll get in NYC these days.

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                                              autopi Apr 15, 2011 06:45 PM

                                              i like the ones at iggys, but they are best if you can get them from the retail outlet in alewife.

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                                                keith Apr 15, 2011 03:39 PM

                                                Rosenfelds in Newton comes pretty close to approximating a good bagel.

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                                                  Jenny Ondioline Apr 15, 2011 03:14 PM

                                                  I'll attempt to preempt the usual carping about the sad state of bagels in Boston by acknowledging that, sadly, there are no genuinely great bagels here.

                                                  That said, once or twice a summer, I do love a weekend brunch of a mixed dozen from Kupel's on Harvard Street in Brookline, with fresh farmstand tomatoes, thin-sliced onions, good cream cheese and some nice smoked salmon and/or whitefish salad. They're not the greatest, but they get the job done. (Would I ever make the trip if they weren't walking distance from my house? Maybe not.)

                                                  Fair warning: literally EVERYTHING ELSE they sell at Kupel's is vile. Never get anything except the bagels.

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                                                    scotty27 Apr 19, 2011 07:45 AM

                                                    Iggy's, while not making bagels in a traditional way (boiling), has good "bagels." At Tico, on the weekends, Schlow has H&H bagels shipped up from NYC. I get bagels shipped to me from H&H routinely and otherwise enjoy the poppy "bagels" from Iggy's.

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                                                      loper Apr 19, 2011 08:07 AM

                                                      Iggy's "bagels" are definitely something different, but the multi-seeded ones are my favorite bready crusty breakfasty thing with a hole in the middle.

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                                                        PinchOfSalt Apr 19, 2011 08:20 AM

                                                        Having spent my childhood in Brooklyn, with a traditional bagel store two blocks away, I have to give a reserved thumbs up for Iggy's multiseed. It is by no means a NY bagel, but it is satisfying in its own way, perhaps because it is so nice and dense and chewy, quite unlike the fluffy donut-like things peddled by so many around here.

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                                                          scotty27 Apr 19, 2011 08:39 AM

                                                          I agree. It's no more a bagel than the pizza at Emma's is pizza, but both are delicious. I mean, what else could these purveyors call them? Baked Serbian Rolls with a Hole in the Middle? Armenian Style Flatbread with Tomatoes & Cheese? A bagel. A pizza. Much easier.

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                                                        kimfair1 Apr 19, 2011 08:58 AM

                                                        Bagels By US in Arlington uses H&H bagels (shipped frozen, baked there). I'd go there more often if I lived in Arlington.

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                                                          robwat36 Apr 19, 2011 09:13 AM

                                                          Rosenfeld's boils, FYI.

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                                                            autopi Apr 19, 2011 12:06 PM

                                                            interesting. i didn't realize iggy's didn't boil their bagels. source?

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                                                              scotty27 Apr 20, 2011 01:31 PM

                                                              The source is Ivan, who with his wife, Ludmilla, are the original owners of Iggy's. They have since moved to Australia. In conversation with an Australian blogger, Ivan said, "Ivan informed me they are steamed, not boiled, as Iggy does not believe in boiling bagels." Now why the bakery doesn't "believe" in boiled bagels is a different matter...

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                                                                autopi Apr 20, 2011 02:41 PM

                                                                interesting -- thanks for sharing! steaming is probably easier for a commercial bakery (assuming you are foregoing the lye bath), but for making at home, boiling is probably easier (or at least not harder).

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                                                                  scotty27 Apr 20, 2011 04:35 PM

                                                                  I can't imagine why they steam. The big NY bagel guys are commercial, they boil. As I said, Iggy's is a Serbian bakery; it has as much to do with "real" bagels as Emma's does with "real" pizza. Still: Iggy's "bagels" are delicious. And: When I want I real bagel, I ship up H&H.

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                                                            Alcachofa Apr 20, 2011 07:07 AM

                                                            I disagree with Jenny. Katz Bagel Bakery would be considered WELL above average in the NYC area. It might not win "Best in the Five Boroughs" or whatever, but people would go out of their way to go there.

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                                                              Zut Apr 21, 2011 11:27 AM

                                                              I concur, Alcahofa. While I know excellent bagels are available in New York, they can be elusive. And Katz is up there with the best that I've had from there (and I've had a good number).

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