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Apr 12, 2011 09:15 AM

quick trip to NYC with GF...what do you think?

I am rolling up from DC for 2 days to NYC. She is Austrian and visiting for a bit and I want to treat her to some food in NYC. We are staying at Gild Hall right by South St. Seaport.

We arrive very early on Sunday morning.

Breakfast/Brunch Recs? Delicatessen maybe?
Dinner - Degustation (any other recs?)

Monday Breakfast Recs?
Lunch - Peanut Butter and Co (I have a fascination with this palce)
Dinner - Ssam Bar (or Ma Peche)

Any thought...I am open to anything.

Peanut Butter and Co.
240 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

Ma Peche
15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

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  1. For early Sunday... Have you ever taken my famous LES eating tour? Nothing like starting the day with a delicious pastrami sandwich at Katz's (they open at 8 a.m.), then going on from there.

    My tour:

    A couple of changes to note. Guss's Pickles has closed; substitute The Pickle Guys, on Essex, off Grand. The correct address for Economy Candy is 108, not 145.

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    1. re: RGR

      wow this is awesome. We will make our way to the hotel and drop off our bags and do this Sunday morning!


      1. re: johnalex13

        So glad you'll be doing the tour. :)

        I'm in the process of revising and including more stops, so here are places I'll be adding:

        Sugar Sweet Sunshine:

        Essex Street Market:

        Bisous Ciao Macarons:


    2. You itinerary for dinner sounds good to me.

      For Sunday brunch, it really depends upon how much you wish to spend and if you're OK with waiting, or if reservations are a must. Locanda Verde (make a reservation), Minetta Tavern (same), Prune (no reservations) would be my picks.

      For Monday breakfast, again, knowing how much you wish to spend will help. For both, preferences for specific dishes? I'd do Maialino, Shopsin's, Clinton St Baking Company. But these are all VERY difference restaurant experiences.

      Shopsin's General Store
      120 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

      Minetta Tavern
      113 MacDougal St, New York, NY 10012

      54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

      Locanda Verde
      377 Greenwich St, New York, NY 10013

      Clinton Street Baking Co.
      4 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

      2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

      4 Replies
      1. re: kathryn

        Clinton St. Baking seems perfect, a little far form the hotel though. Anything near Brooklyn Bridge/South St. Seaport?

        1. re: johnalex13

          Clinton st is not far from where you are at. A couple of subway stops or an easy walk if the weather is nice.

          1. re: AdamD

            Ah, yes, I'd forgotten. Thanks!

        2. sunday not a huge fan of the food but peels is comfortable and a nice scene. could start the trip out well. stick with the basics and you're fine...great coffee too.

          sunday dinner...prune is a favorite...something local. for something a bit more lively, i liked my dinner at spasso recently. great pastas.

          monday lunch...try txikito...quiet for lunch, great spanish tapas.
          monday dinner...minetta tavern...wait for a table.

          240 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

          325 Bowery, New York, NY 10003

          551 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

          1. Is the line at Ssam Bar on a Sunday night atrocious?

            Momofuku Ssam Bar
            207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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            1. re: johnalex13

              0-20 minutes for two unless you insist on a table (as opposed to the counter seating), Sundays are typically slow.

              1. re: kathryn

                thank you. Do you recommended Ssam Bar or Ma Peche?

                It is just two of us so we can't get the Bo Ssam or the beef 7 ways. I have read the book and really like the ham stuff they do at Ssam Bar...but Ma Peche seems a bit more edgier?

                Ma Peche
                15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

                1. re: johnalex13

                  Don't worry about not being able to get a large group meal anywhere in NYC -- if you are only two you'll get a better taste of restaurants by being able to try more items.

                  Overall, Ma Peche is more upscale with higher prices to match and a very different atmosphere since you're dining in a hotel. Calmer, less busy, subterranean (no windows). It's more French and Vietnamese influenced.

                  Ssam is a bit more all over the place (Southern, Korean, Japanese, with the occasional Spanish or Indian flavor), much more casual, as well as being louder and more busy, and it looks out onto the street, with large glass windows that are floor to ceiling.

                  Ma Peche
                  15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

                  1. re: johnalex13

                    We have been to each once.

                    When Ssam Bar is full, the noise level gets so insanely high that it's difficult to carry on a conversation without shouting. But we were there mid-week, so I can't say how busy it gets on a Sunday. Also, seating is hard, backless benches. We were there for the Bo Ssam, but had other dishes as well. The food was o.k., but t's not a restaurant I would ever care to return to.

                    As kathryn said, Ma Peche's dining room is on the subterranean level, in a space with a soaring, two-story ceiling. The restaurant that previously occupied this space had decor that was jaw-droppingly gorgeous. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for Ma Peche's very blah decor. Unlike Ssam Bar, here at least one gets to sit on a real chair.

                    Our only meal at Ma Peche was for lunch just after it opened. The dinner menu now is more French-inspired than it was early on, which appeals to me more. Our good friend/Chowhound member ellenost has had dinner many times and raves about the food.


                    1. re: RGR

                      Many in this board (and this city) will disagree with RGR on Ssam Bar, but yes, it is loud and not particularly comfy so you'll have to be aware of that. But I have taklen many many tourists and locals, and no one has ever not said it was one of their best meals ever. Also, location wise, you dont really want to be in Midtown after dinner on Sunday- while you can always take a stroll or have a drink in the east Village. much more of a tourist-worthy experience.

                      1. re: RGR

                        Do note that both change their menus quote frequently.

                2. Bo Ssam it is.

                  What are the thoughts on Degustation?

                  239 E 5th St, New York, NY 10003

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                  1. re: johnalex13

                    Clarification, you can't get the bo ssam for just two people, but even if you just go for the regular a la carte menu for 2 people, ssam bar is great.

                    I love degustation too.

                    Those sound like two really good choices for moderate-to-high priced fun dinners.

                    1. re: johnalex13

                      ive been to degustation three or four times...the last time was 1 1/2 years ago. i was never impressed with the food there. its a quite place though.

                      i have heard rumours that wesley is leaving/or has left degustation so it might be in a state of flux at the moment. you may want to call ahead.

                      personally, i much prefer el quinto pino, txikito, or even tia pol rather than degustation. tapas served in more of a traditional environment for less money.

                      Tia Pol
                      205 10th Ave, New York, NY 10011

                      El Quinto Pino
                      401 W 24th St, New York, NY 10011

                      1. re: sam1

                        thanks!...I wanted to try reservations. I may try to call that morning and see.