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ORGANIC MEAT, ORGANIC PRODUCE & ORGANIC PACKAGED FOODS

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Zabar Apr 9, 2011 12:11 PM

Hi:
I'm a new member of the Chowhound forum. I joined a couple of days ago and I need your help.
My wife is very ill and requires a completely "organic" diet.
We are not wealthy and I cannot afford to shop at Whole Foods.
I use Trader Joe's in Edgewater or the Shoprite supermarket in Palisades Park to buy fresh "organic" fruits and veggies, and I also find a limited selection of organic packaged and frozen foods in these stores.
My wife is only permitted to eat "red meat" once a week, and, I am having a helluva time finding organic "beef", "lamb" or "pork" anywhere.
"Coleman" organic frozen chicken and Trader Joe's organic hamburger meat is readily available.
Can anyone suggest any meat markets, fresh produce stores or food stores that are located reasonably close by to Edgewater and carry a decent selection of "ORGANIC" products?
I also travel once a week to RIDGEWOOD... so any food stores, fruit & vegetable markets or stores that have a large selection of organic "packaged" goods that are close to ROUTE 4 - between the Ridgewood exit and all the way down Route 4 to the George Washington Bridge would be fine.
I would be very grateful for any suggestions and recommendations.
Thank you.
Zabar

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Trader Joe's
725 River Road, Edgewater, NJ

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    maryanne06 RE: Zabar Apr 9, 2011 12:46 PM

    I believe that by utilizing Shop-Rite and Trader Joe's, you are indeed already on your way to securing the best nutritional choices for your wife. Paramus (Route 17) also has a Trader Joe's that you may like......sometimes different stores carry different items. Since Shop-Rite tends to have the most competitive prices, maybe the butcher at Shop-Rite could help you find the organic beef lamb or pork at a fair price. I know that buying organic meats online is an option, but it is quite pricey. I hope that your wife feels a little better soon and that you do OK as well.

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    Trader Joe's
    725 River Road, Edgewater, NJ

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      maryanne06 RE: Zabar Apr 9, 2011 12:51 PM

      Goffle Road Poultry Farm on Goffle Road in Wyckoff has some items that you may be interested in.......just a five minute drive from Ridgewood.

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        Zabar RE: maryanne06 Apr 9, 2011 02:03 PM

        Thank you "maryanne06"

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          Picnicchef RE: Zabar Apr 10, 2011 07:55 AM

          I don't think Goffle is organic, truth be told.

      2. Quine RE: Zabar Apr 10, 2011 07:52 AM

        You might want to consider a food Co-op. There is a large one here in NJ.

        http://www.purpledragon.com/

        1. tommy RE: Zabar Apr 10, 2011 08:49 AM

          Fairway in Paramus carries organic beef. As does Whole Foods.

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            dkupersmith RE: Zabar Apr 10, 2011 08:56 AM

            "We are not wealthy and I cannot afford to shop at Whole Foods".
            Please don't be short sited and give up on Whole Foods for your organics. I agree that many products will cost more there but we find that if we stick to the store "365" brand, they are almost always less than the organics at Shop Rite and often less than Trader Joes.
            I agree that you do need to know your prices and compare but for organics you may find many of their own items to be your best value.

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            Trader Joe's
            725 River Road, Edgewater, NJ

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              tommy RE: dkupersmith Apr 10, 2011 08:59 AM

              I think 99 out of every 100 people who claim that WF is crazy expensive have never done any sort of scientific comparison. It's a shame, because they are missing out, and probably spending more than they need to. LOL!

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                Zabar RE: tommy Apr 10, 2011 10:23 AM

                With all due respect to "dkupersmith" and "tommy", the prices at Trader Joe's in Edgewater for organic fruits and vegetables are usually about 30% less than the Whole Foods store in Edgewater, for the very same organic merchandise.
                I have found that the Edgewater Whole foods store has a very limited selection of organic fresh fruit and veggies, and, never has the organic blackberries that Trader Joe's always stocks. WF's prices for dairy items (cream cheese, eggs, etc) is always much higher than TJs.
                Whole Foods is fondly referred to as "whole paycheck" in our household. However, I agree that the quality of many other (non-organic) items that are sold at the WF stores is excellent, and, if anyone is financially able to afford to regularly patronize a WF store, they are certainly enjoying the experience. Zabar

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                Trader Joe's
                725 River Road, Edgewater, NJ

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                cantkick RE: dkupersmith Apr 10, 2011 11:40 AM

                I have found that the non-special produce at WH is somewhat steep, but the specials are comparable to the supermarkets. Meat prices are on a par with a butcher shop. Frozen foods are often a bargain. Groceries in general are slightly more than the local supermarket, but the difference is minimal.

              3. goodhealthgourmet RE: Zabar Apr 10, 2011 08:56 PM

                Zabar, i'm so sorry to hear that your wife is ill - she's lucky to have such a concerned and diligent husband.

                i used to live in Edgewater, so i did a lot of my shopping along River Road at WF, TJs and Mitsuwa. unfortunately, that WF sucks - it's an older store, you're right about their weak organic produce selection, and the stench from the fish counter is awful. for someone on a budget i'd limit my purchases there to bulk items, the 365 brand, and organic meats when they're on sale. the Paramus WF is a much better store...and actually the Paramus TJ's is better as well.

                the recommendation for Goffle Road Poultry is a good one, and you've got another great resource for meat closer to home - Cafasso's Fairway Market in Fort Lee has terrific butchers and good prices. it's an independent store - no relation to the chain of Fairway Markets...but speaking of the Fairway chain, if you're out on Rte 17 definitely check out the Paramus Fairway.

                there's also Westwood Prime Meats but i'm not sure what their organic selection is like.

                for seafood, of course you've got Mitsuwa on River Road. Peter's Fish Market in Midland Park has been around for ages for good reason, and there's also a fish market that opened in Bergenfield last year called Good Fish Market - you might want to swing by to see what they have.

                and just a random note that on a couple of occasions when i wandered into the Pathmark on River Road, actually stumbled on some surprisingly good deals on organic produce. they don't have a huge selection, and their regular prices on organics are too high, but the sales are worth a look.

                i hope that helps!

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                Cafasso's Fairway Market
                1214 Anderson Ave, Fort Lee, NJ 07024

                Westwood Prime Meat
                190 Westwood Ave Ste 1, Westwood, NJ 07675

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                  tommy RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 11, 2011 04:38 AM

                  Again, Goffle isn't selling organic products. I'd certainly call to confirm, but many people seem to conflate "natural" and "organic."

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                    goodhealthgourmet RE: tommy Apr 11, 2011 01:01 PM

                    thanks - i missed that earlier. i was under the impression that they did have organic poultry...and i'm most certainly not someone who conflates those terms. "natural" is basically meaningless at this point.

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                  redfish62 RE: Zabar Apr 11, 2011 05:25 AM

                  With regard to meat, I think it generally isn't sold as "organic," you have grass fed versus grain fed, meat that is free from antibiotics or hormones, etc.

                  You might get a combination of the various factors (grass fed guaranteed free from antibiotics etc), or just one of them (no antibiotics or hormones but grain fed).

                  Then there is the free range thing for chickens.

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                    tommy RE: redfish62 Apr 11, 2011 05:28 AM

                    Of course you can have certified Organic meat.

                  2. chefMD RE: Zabar Apr 11, 2011 08:02 AM

                    1. With regards to WF and China.... Sure, a lot of stuff is sourced from China and god knows where for private labeling. On that same note, try finding the source of just about anything that is Trader Joe's labeled..... You won't have much luck there and why we stopped shopping there when we still lived in California.

                    2. There is certainly "true" organic meats out there, including chickens that are available, generally harder to find. There is a lot of "green washing" of products out there so knowing where exactly the food comes from is/could be the most important factor. BTW if you want the cleanest "meats", look for 100% pastured stuff, it's your best bet. Unfortunately, it is more expensive but WAAYYYYYYY better for you in every way. Chef's Tip..... Use unfamiliar cuts, much less expensive and frankly, kind of fun for those who like to cook. Also, buy larger pieces and butcher yourself, always cheaper.

                    3. you're cheapest option in season would be to find an organic CSA somewhere in you're area (sorry not familiar up there outside of the Mitsuwa and the ferry).

                    I saw Coleman's chickens at Costco down this way. Pineland Farms Beef is available through whole foods. While not organic, no hormones, antibodies, humanely raised, 100% vegetarian diet, and from within 300 miles of NJ. Simply Grazin' products are available down this way at WF and actually LESS expensive than if you go to see Mark and Lynn at the Farm!

                    Hope this helps....

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                    Trader Joe's
                    725 River Road, Edgewater, NJ

                    1. menton1 RE: Zabar Apr 11, 2011 09:02 AM

                      I think when it comes to health, non-organic vegetables are a lot more healthful than "Organic" meat. Also bear in mind that with meat and other flesh items, "organic" has an entirely different meaning than it does with vegetables and fruits.

                      Cutting back or eliminating meat entirely can also be a terrific money saver, as well as a boon to overall health.

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                        Zabar RE: menton1 Apr 11, 2011 09:46 AM

                        Thank you all for your helpful suggestions. Zabar

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                          Tay RE: Zabar Apr 11, 2011 10:07 AM

                          Zabar...
                          "Whole Foods is fondly referred to as "whole paycheck" in our household. However, I agree that the quality of many other (non-organic) items that are sold at the WF stores is excellent, and, if anyone is financially able to afford to regularly patronize a WF store, they are certainly enjoying the experience"

                          You are so right on with your comments about the high cost of shopping at WF. To shop for one item here and another there would end up costing you in both time and (gas) money.

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                            menton1 RE: Tay Apr 11, 2011 12:24 PM

                            The proximity of Fairway in Paramus to my work and home make it totally unnecessary to patronize WF. WF is more expensive on 90% of the items they mutually carry.

                            I think WF's survival is owed a great deal to their prepared foods bar, which is mediocre at best, but is extremely popular. Go figure.

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                          c oliver RE: menton1 Apr 12, 2011 01:30 PM

                          I find that most produce I buy is more expensive than most meat I buy. YMMV.

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                          joonjoon RE: Zabar Apr 19, 2011 11:44 AM

                          Just out of curiosity Zabar, what condition necessitates an organic diet? I've never heard of anything like that. Hope you're able to find what you need for your wife.

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                            goodhealthgourmet RE: joonjoon Apr 19, 2011 12:17 PM

                            people with compromised immune systems - whether from diseases like leukemia or from treatments such as immunosuppresive drugs - often limit their exposure to pesticides, chemicals, additives, and any other food "nasties" as much as possible.

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                              menton1 RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 19, 2011 02:30 PM

                              Hmmm... What about the idea that eating any kind of Veggies will enhance and fortify one's immune system and is far superior to eating any kind of Meat!!

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                                goodhealthgourmet RE: menton1 Apr 19, 2011 05:46 PM

                                well, that's a separate matter of personal opinion and discussion with one's healthcare providers...and the mods would definitely bust us for wandering into such OT *and* medically-related territory ;)

                                oh, and because it's driving me nuts that i didn't notice my typo until the edit window had closed...it should say *immunosuppressive* drugs - i was missing an s.

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                                  menton1 RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 20, 2011 05:02 AM

                                  Dup.

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                              Zabar RE: joonjoon Apr 19, 2011 02:57 PM

                              "joonjoon"... I believe your question has been answered by "goodhealthgourmet". Zabar

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                                goodhealthgourmet RE: Zabar Apr 19, 2011 05:48 PM

                                i suspected as much. i hope she's doing okay.

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                                  menton1 RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 20, 2011 05:02 AM

                                  So you're of the opinion is that it's better to eat "organic" meat (This word used with meat can be ambiguous) than all sorts of great veggies, even non-organic? That's an opinion that's strongly in the minority column today. Probably under 10% of health professionals and diet pros believe or would recommend that, unless they work for a meat packing outfit..

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                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: menton1 Apr 20, 2011 09:33 AM

                                    So you're of the opinion is that it's better to eat "organic" meat (This word used with meat can be ambiguous) than all sorts of great veggies, even non-organic?
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                                    where did i say that?

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                                      menton1 RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 20, 2011 03:03 PM

                                      In my first mention of veggies being more3 healthful than meat, you said that "that's a matter of opinion", implying that you are of a different opinion. Logic 101.

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                                        goodhealthgourmet RE: menton1 Apr 20, 2011 05:48 PM

                                        misinterpretation/presumption. i pointed out that the opinion you offered isn't necessarily shared by everyone...but i never said that i didn't agree with you.

                            3. sixelagogo RE: Zabar Apr 21, 2011 03:54 AM

                              Farmers market season is just getting underway...Ridgewood's got one as does Tenafly, Haworth, Rivervale, etc...Lots of organics in Tenafly and Haworth, some in Rivervale, though I don't know the state of other ones in the region. .Most start up mid-end of may. For now there's the indoor palisades - haven't gone, but it's worth a look
                              http://food.lohudblogs.com/tag/palisa...

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                                Zabar RE: Zabar May 2, 2011 01:20 PM

                                Mother's Day is on Sunday.

                                I'd love to take my wife to an "organic" restaurant that is within a 30 minute drive from the George Washington Bridge. It would be great if the restaurant had a selection of "organic" meat or fish entrees that were served with organic veggies. Organic desserts would also be welcomed.
                                Can any Jersey Chowhounders offer a suggestion?
                                P.S... I'd be willing to consider a drive into Manhattan if there are no noteworthy organic restaurants in Northern New Jersey.
                                Thank you for your help! Zabar

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                                  menton1 RE: Zabar May 2, 2011 01:45 PM

                                  Sorry, dup.

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                                    menton1 RE: Zabar May 2, 2011 01:47 PM

                                    https://foursquare.com/venue/33849

                                    http://www.blossomnyc.com/

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                                      goodhealthgourmet RE: Zabar May 2, 2011 01:48 PM

                                      http://www.new-jersey-leisure-guide.c...
                                      http://www.localharvest.org/restaurants/
                                      http://www.organichighways.com/
                                      http://www.eatwild.com/products/newje...

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                                        Zabar RE: goodhealthgourmet May 3, 2011 07:16 AM

                                        Thank you both. My wife has chosen "Park and Orchard" in East Rutherford. "P&O" completely slipped my mind.
                                        Happy Mother's Day to all of you Chowhound "moms" and "Grandmoms". Zabar

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                                          goodhealthgourmet RE: Zabar May 3, 2011 12:05 PM

                                          ah, my brother's favorite restaurant for lunch - he eats there 3x/week :)

                                          hope everyone enjoys their meal, and that your wife is feeling well and has a happy Mother's Day!

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                                            Zabar RE: goodhealthgourmet May 3, 2011 01:13 PM

                                            Dear "goodhealthgourmet":

                                            I called Park & Orchard and was told that NONE of their dishes are completely organic. I'm simply posting this information so that I do NOT mislead any other CHers regarding the food that is served at "P&O". Oh well.... Z

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                                            Park & Orchard Restaurant
                                            240 Hackensack St, East Rutherford, NJ 07073

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                                              goodhealthgourmet RE: Zabar May 3, 2011 02:10 PM

                                              thanks - it has no impact on my life but it's still good for anyone else to know :)

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                                      jhart RE: Zabar Feb 8, 2014 12:53 PM

                                      http://www.hungryhollow.org/about/abo...

                                      The Hungry Hollow Co-Op is about 30-40 min away from Park and Orchard. A bit pricey but have great sales. I bought a lb of grass fed/organic stew meat for 11.00 and a huge head of organic celery for 1.99 (celery sale)
                                      I have found grass fed at the A&P or organic but not both. Usually grass fed does not spray though. You need to call first though or suggest they carry. Much luck with your wife.

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