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Can't believe that I've only used a hand mixer for nearly 40 years. I'm salivating over Kitchen Aid stand mixers, but get bleary eyed over the various models. Recommendations? I mostly do desserts, but also love baking bread. However, I don't really mind doing bread dough by hand (find it soomewhat cathartic). Does this mean maybe I don't need a stand mixer at all?

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  1. I love my KitchenAid stand mixer and use it often. It makes pizza dough in a flash. In know you can make bread dough in this mixer but I've never tried since I also have a Breadman bread making machine.
    I have the attachments for making ice cream, meat grinder, pasta roller and ravioli maker. The pasta roller and ravioli maker are a waste but the ice cream attachement is awesome. I love making my own ice cream and this makes is so simple. This stand mixer is a work horse and will do any job you need it to do. I can't speak for other brands but I'm glad I got the KitchenAid. Once you start using a stand mixer, you will NEVER go back to a hand mixer again.

    1. I love my KA, so I don't think a model is where I would change anything. It would be the size. If $$$ were no object, I would get the largest capacity bowl. Mine is great, but when I am adding flour or anythinig extra into my bowl, it doesn't have much overhang. I would also get an extra bowl, because in baking, sometimes there are recipes that I need two bowls and I have to clean the one I have to continue with my recipe. I hear the ice cream attachment is great, but I wouldn't use it. Enjoy!

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      1. re: mcel215

        You would if you tasted Ben & Jerry's Heath Crunch Chocolate or Cherry Garcia. OMG. Awesome.

        1. re: The Drama Queen

          Well, I should have added that I have a Cusinart Ice Cream maker. Thanks. DQ.

          1. re: mcel215

            mce1215: I have the Cuisinart in my RV. The KA has a bigger capacity; 2 qts. as opposed to 1 1/2 with Cuisinart. Both make great ice cream. Now get yourself a copy of Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream and Dessert book and have fun.

            1. re: The Drama Queen

              I know I should, but it's just me at home now. But, I am here at my son's and staying with my grands while he and my dear DIL are away for the weekend. I thought about bringing my IC maker, but forgot..... oh well, summer is on the way. Thanks for the recommendation on the book, DQ. :)

              1. re: mcel215

                mce1215 It's just me at home now too. I live alone and cook everything I eat and yes I make ice cream. I LOVE ice cream, and if you can buy it you can make it. Treat yourself like you matter.

                1. re: The Drama Queen

                  Thanks DQ. I do cook everything too, you can check out my blog too, it's listed under my profile.
                  My sister would perfer sweets/ice cream instead of a meal. Not me, I love just a little taste of something sweet after dinner.
                  But, I still have the Ice Cream maker and Easter is coming, so I'll give it some thought. Perhaps a nice ice cream cake. :)

                  1. re: mcel215

                    OMG, I took a look at your blog and found the perfect solution to my problem of what to bring to a pot luck breakfast I'm invited to attend next week; Mark Bittman's Winter Citrus Salad. Perfect. Okay so it's no longer winter, but the salad will be great. Thanks for leading me there.
                    I too had a food blog (Chew On This) til I decided a couple of months ago that I was a slave to it. Gave it up. I like yours.

                    1. re: The Drama Queen

                      Thank you. I just started a couple of months ago and it's a bit of a hobby, cooking and photography. If I feel slave-ish, I'll give it up also...... I want to keep it fun. :)

                      BTW, I love that Citrus Salad and Mark Bittman. ;)

      2. Still dithering about specific models. CostCo has an upcoming sale on the Professional 5.5 qt one for (I think) $250. That one gets decidedly mixed reviews. The other I'm considering is the Artisan. What do ya'll have?

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        1. re: pine time

          KitchenAid Professional 600. Compromise to a Hobart N-50.

          1. re: pine time

            i have the artisan...
            but then i dont really make bread in it either...its more general all purpose mixer..
            i think if your going to do more breads i would go with bigger and more power....
            if u are only doing the occasional breads..the artisan might be enough...

            1. re: pine time

              Hey, pine time - wondering how you know about the upcoming sale at Costco - and if you know *when* it's going on sale? I've been considering this splurge (which I hope will be an investment). I think all stand mixers - well, all appliances, actually - are a gamble today, w/the transfer of manufacturing out of the US. At least w/Costco, I'd have their excellent return policy (which I would double check before buying, to make sure THAT hasn't changed.

              I have done everything by hand, fr making bread to well - whatever I want to bake. I would so like a stand mixer to make things easier!

              1. re: threedogs

                threedogs: no real secret--just received a CostCo coupon booklet for sales from 4-14 to 5-8, and the KA is listed, so I went on their site to see the regular price. And you're right about their generous return policy, so it may be worth the splurge and then use the heck out of it for a few days/weeks to see if it holds up.

                1. re: pine time

                  Woo-hoo!! I think I'll be buying myself a belated birthday gift! I *think* I can afford it (there is always the occasional emergency that might crop up, but this deal is too good to pass. Esp. w/the ice cream maker! Easter is going to be great at my house this year - I have a lot of pain due to a disability (never can tell what part of my body is going to go for a few days, a week - or more). My kids have become so much more concerned for my health, and want me to go easy on the cooking (which, translated to my 'language', means baking, lol). As long as I don't get a dud, I'll have the most fun I've had in years, lol.

                  Love creating foodstuff! Will post after I get & use my baby - thank you SO much for the heads-up about Costco. I think I'll be there when it opens on Apr. 14, haha!

              2. re: pine time

                I'd wait for the Bosco AS800 or the AS1200. They are made by an Australian company and are not sold in America, but I heard they will be in a couple of months. Comparably priced to KitchenAid machines, but from what I understand, more powerful and much higher quality. Besides, they come with a ton of attachments inclusing an integrated blender. I have a friend in Australia who has both and two KitchenAids as well. He swears by the Bosco models.

                 
                 
                1. re: DManzi

                  Pretty slick looking. Can you give a price estimate?

                  1. re: Westy

                    They say the AS800 will be around $300, and the AS1200 will be around $450, at least that's what I hear. If you go to PJ Fusco On The News www.pjfusco.com, they're the company importing them and they will have all the news.

                    1. re: DManzi

                      I'm intrigued by this mixer - but this company that's importing them looks really strange. Nothing like a little politics mixed in with my kitchen appliances, lol.

                      1. re: threedogs

                        The company runs several divisions from what I understand, one is an import division. Anyway, I wrote to them and they said the Bosco AS1200 is $389.95 and they're taking pre-orders. They also said the machines may be featured on QVC and in retail outlets in the future, but for now they are selling direct to the customer. Hope that helps.

              3. No contest if money were no object- The Hobart Legacy Counter-Top Mixer with all the bells and whistles. However you might have to take out a second mortgage to afford one. Hobarts have been the gold standard in every restaurant I have ever worked in- tough and versatile with a gazillion available attachments. Some of those machines were in use daily for 20 years or more and never broke down.

                I just googled this model for pricing- around $4500- $5000!!!! A guy can still dream, can't he?

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                1. re: LorenM

                  Live your dream, Loren, but that's way out of my budget! Hubby even thinks the KA is ridiculously expensive.

                  1. re: LorenM

                    The Hobart N-50 is less then 1/2 that brand new and the N50 are frequently found used for under $1000 on Ebay.

                    @Pinetree, if you can get the KA Professional for $250, its a great bargain.

                    1. re: LorenM

                      Do you actually need a commercial mixer at home?

                      1. re: MacGuffin

                        There is a difference between necessity and "would be great to have". If I had one, I certainly would use it but I can get by without it.

                        1. re: wekick

                          Oh, believe me, I'm aware of the difference. It's just that a commercial mixer, albeit a countertop model, is beyond even where I'd go. I guess I can't conceive of baking enough of anything at one time to make it workable. Out of curiosity, what's the minimum amount something like that could process effectively?

                          1. re: MacGuffin

                            I have a Kitchen Aid commerical mixer with the lift bowl and mine is a 6qt bowl.

                        2. re: MacGuffin

                          I have a Hobart A-120 12qt at home. Found it on CRaigslist for $295. Now I can do 8 pumpkin pies at a time.

                      2. edit.

                        1. KA is definitely a solid choice, but I have only heard good stuff about Electroluxes. Any experiences?

                          http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/magi...

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                          1. re: Westy

                            This is the mixer I wanted to get - but it's more than 2X as much as I can afford. I'm on a fixed income, & there's no way I can buy this.

                            Looks like it can really handle dough (don't know anyone who has used it, though), but I don't know how it handles stuff like egg whites, cake, etc. I make bread, pizza a lot (or at least I used to - less people at home now, w/three out of my four kids out on their own), but prefer to let time develop the gluten rather than kneading, so I'm more concerned about delicate cakes & other stuff that takes too long by hand.

                            Would be very interested to hear if anyone here has used this, just the same. I love the design of this, too.

                            1. re: threedogs

                              Have a Magic Mill aka Assistent in addition to a KitchenAid Pro HD (refurbished Costco model). KitchenAid is for cakes etc, the Assistent is for grinding meat and makig bread.

                              I love the Assistent, though you'll need to adjust your yechnique somewhat as compared to traditional spiral mixers. Nothing to complicated, you just start off with the liquid, then add the flour and let it knead. Capacity is enormous! And no worries about it breaking it, this thing is literally built like a tank.

                              I know that Assistent is not cheap, but if I hear people who've gone through one or more KAs, well, after 2 KAs, you laid out as much as the Assistent will set you back.

                              If I am not mistaken, the Electrolux has probably the same number of attachments as the KA. They cost more, but are so much sturdier. The meat grinder is cast aluminum with stainless steel discs about 1/4" thick, just to give you an idea.

                              There's an attachment for making cakes, plastic bowl and two whisks, though the manual lists recipes for cakes to be made with the base model. Have not tried those as I have the KA for that purpose.

                              1. re: walliser

                                Yeah, the Magic Mill sounds great - but I just can't spend that amt of money.

                                Well, I was all set to get the Kitchenaid that's going on sale at Costco tomorrow - but now I have a concern about the wattage. I guess, in a nutshell, that it's actually the horsepower (HP) that shows how powerful the machine is, while the wattage is how much electricity it consumes. If that's so, then I may not even be able to use that Kitchenaid - I have a Bamix (love, love, LOVE that stick blender) I bought a few yrs ago.

                                Don't want to confuse anyone w/my extensive technical knowledge here, but I'm constantly setting off the do-hicky button on my kitchen plug that prevents a blown fuse. This apt. has the very old glass fuses & I managed to blow a fuse the first week we were here.

                                Of course, I could buy one & try it out. Problem is, the outlet I'll be using is do-hicky button-less, and I really, really don't want to deal w/that right now. (painful injury to my knee last year is flaring up, & I'm in too much pain to deal w/cellar stairs

                                Wondering if I should take a chance w/an older KA/Hobart model, now. Some were only 250 watts, and are still going strong.

                                Arrgh! Big decisions!!

                                1. re: threedogs

                                  Older KA (Hobart) were supposedly more sturdy, hence you hear the "my mom's KA keeps on going strong and she bakes bread all the time".

                                  As I understand, problems started when KA was bought by Whirlpool.

                                  If I didn't have the Magic Mill, I would use the KA, though I have a Heavy Duty model. Obviously, while watching it closely and staying within specs. Anything can be ruined if you exceed it's limitations.

                                  1. re: walliser

                                    Agreed - first thing I'd do is read the manual (for me, this would be more interesting than the latest best selling novel, lol).

                                    Manufacturing on a whole has lost so much of the quality that was taken for granted, back in the day. It's still taking a chance - can't tell what kind of care - or abuse - the mixer might have had in it's previous life.

                                    I think the wisest thing in my case (unless I come across a gem in a thrift store, which in that case, I'd grab it, of course!) is to get the KA that'll be on sale tomorrow at Costco. If I have any problems w/the house voltage, wattage, or whatever that might be unforeseen, I can return it (*before* I cut out the UPC label on the box for the free ice cream maker...mmm... ice cream...), and then start a search for an older, Hobart KA. I can check out how it handles bread right away, too - I've been making bread by hand for more yrs than I want to admit, now mostly a combo of stretch & fold and no-knead (because of my aching, painful joints which do not mean I'm getting OLD!!! lol).

                                    I've already mapped out where the mixer will go and how I should rearrange other baking items to make my kitchen footprint more practical.

                                    I think this is how I used to feel about Christmas when I was a teeny tyke, something like a thousand years ago... :D

                                  2. re: threedogs

                                    wattage and horsepower are similar..
                                    they basically determine how much work a given motor (in this case) will do..

                                    but generally the higher wattage rating the more work the motor will do..

                                    as far as hp..1 HP is roughly 750 watts...
                                    so to equal the 220 hp of my car i would need a stand mixer rated for 165,000 watts

                                    1. re: srsone

                                      I just read that there is a big difference between input & output regarding wattage. I need to find the page & I'll post the link when I do. The person who wrote it is in the UK, where they are eons ahead of the US regarding global footprint. As I understood it, it is required that the input & output is labeled for appliances.

                                      I'll be finding out, as I have a brand, new, shiny KA on my table right now. I'm kind of worn out, as I had a problem w/my car on the way home & I have had horrible knee pain for the past wk or two (brain won't work). This didn't help any (neither did the cortisone shot my dr gave me Tues, lol). We have a fairly old car that we bought used - came w/a car alarm that automatically disables the car. It decided to go off while I was at a lumber yard (amazingly close to the apt I moved into only a few months ago). Spent an hr (or was it two? Like I said - brain won't work...) until my son FINALLY called me & told me how to get the car going again.

                                      Day was good, just the same - they had a closet pole I had them cut to size for me, and I now have a very long rolling pin for raviioli making on Easter, and (hopefully) a KA to help w/the rest.

                                      Will look for the web page later & post it if I can find it.

                                      1. re: threedogs

                                        3dogs: is it the KA on sale at CostCo?? If so, please give a review once you've used it.

                                        Oh, and I send best wishes on the knee. I had a knee replacement last year, and it was the best thing I've done in ages.

                                        1. re: pine time

                                          Yes!! It's on sale for $249 for a short period of time (the site tells you how long - I need to rest this knee right now - how I wish I had a laptop... or, as long as I'm wishing, an iPad!! Haha, might as well wish for the best...

                                          Thanks so much for the well wishes - knee replacement surgery scares me so much!! It's encouraging to hear fr that it worked for someone. I had a friend who had a horrid time w/it, but she was older than I am now. I have problems w/both knees, but recently my left is the worse. My three dogs actually pulled me to the ground last yr when they saw another dog. My oldest & biggest was strong as a horse, that him alone could have sent me sailing. Sad to say, he crossed over Rainbow Bridge last fall, as they say, after a long life for a dog (but way too short for us human companions). Sigh... he was amazing, to say the least, but I was (and am) a terrible dog trainer, so I couldn't have blamed him or the other two for my injury, lol.

                                          Going to hobble over to take a look at my new toy right now. :D

                                        2. re: threedogs

                                          yes ...wattage rating of the motor doesnt always equal wattage input ..
                                          usage in the usa is usually measured in kilowatt hours so a 325 watt mixer run for one hour would run around 46 watts on your meter (i think my math is close)

                                          1. re: srsone

                                            Wattage rating in the USA does in fact reflect wattage usage or input. But it does not power reflect output. Horsepower is also deceptive. Amperes is actually a more rigorous mode of comparison for motors.

                                            Odd as it might seem, more efficient (but expensive) motors produce more working power with less wattage. A 300-watt Hobart N50 ($1500) is much more powerful than a 600-700 watt KitchenAid or Cuisinart ($400-500).

                                            1. re: Bada Bing

                                              true...its they are but they arent
                                              then also marketing/advertising comes into appliance sales also...

                                              1. re: Bada Bing

                                                From what I can get from the spec sheets on the KA and the hobart , the hobart gets it's power from having more mechanical advantage due to lower gearing and having a much larger motor(physical size) than the KA , it's possible to build a large motor with a low wattage draw as you can build a small motor with a high wattage draw. Wattage input is a misnomer as you can't put more wattage into a motor than it needs , but that being said a motor will draw(pull, suck,use) as much as is available untill it either overheats or draws more than the ciruit can supply(on 120 vac this is about 1700 watts on a dedicated circuit) then the fuse or breaker trips. All this being said you really can't compare the N50 to any other one of these mixers(KA , CA) as they are just not in the same league.

                                                1. re: Dave5440

                                                  so if i had 1500$ laying around i would buy the hobart....

                                                  but i dont ...
                                                  so i have a 300$ KA ...

                                                  1. re: srsone

                                                    I have neither , I'd buy the KA but don't want the problems and don't have the 1500 to be worry free , looks like a good reason to buy another knife!

                                  3. re: Westy

                                    After reading all the mixed reveiws about the KA an CA i'm holding off on buying one, I found this one at our local resturant supply store, has anybody used/tried a Hamilton Beach mixer?
                                    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00015NMX6/r...

                                    1. re: Dave5440

                                      That Hamilton Beach looks an awful lot like a DeLonghi Major Classic DSM7 and an even more striking resemblance to a Kenwood Mixer Model KMP77.

                                      I believe the Kenwood has been discussed on chowhound before. IIRC it was whether to buy a KitchenAid in Europe or something else.

                                  4. I have a KitchenAid mixer that we received as a wedding gift, 35 years ago this June. It gets used weekly (at a minimum) and I have not had to replace or repair anything on it. Yes, they may cost a little more, but definitely worth it!

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                                    1. re: mommystar

                                      Only problem is, the Kitchenaid of 35 yrs ago is not the same as the one manufactured today. It's not stopping me because I can't see another alternative that I can actually afford (even the KA that I hope/plan to buy at Costco is def in the 'most expensive toy ever' range for me). All seem to have their share of problems (I've read reviews until my eyes almost fell out of my head) - getting an older one was something I considered, but I'm opting for a new one at this point, even though the company isn't even run by the same people. Hopefully they'll have the sense to keep the valued name from becoming yet another Hall of Fame machine of years past.

                                      1. re: threedogs

                                        Point well made.I still think KitchenAid will be worth it for you. Many happy years with it!

                                    2. A few years ago I was like you--I had a good hand mixer and made bread by hand and wasn't convinced I needed a stand mixer. My husband gave me the Pro600 for my birthday and I love it. It's one of the appliances I'd replace right away if it broke. I find I make bread far more often with it, plus you can multi-task with it (making cookies/batters, let it mix butter/sugar/eggs as I measure out dry ingredients. As it mixes the dry, I'm cleaning up). Frosting/whipped cream/meringues come together in no time.

                                      As bread making goes, I've found some doughs tax the Pro 600 so wouldn't consider a lower model. It's mostly brioche and bagels where I've had problems. And, even though I use the mixer, I still finish up by hand for the most part because that's how I get the best feel for when it's done. But, it's only for a few minutes vs much longer if you do it by hand.

                                      And, I've started using it to grind my own meat, too. I'm looking at pasta attachments (again, I do it by hand so it's hard to convince myself to spend that much money on the attachment).

                                      1. If you prefer a flip top get the Artisan, it's a fine mixer for general duity. If you prefer the lift bowl then get the pro, it's more expennsive and more power, which makes it more suuitable for bread. You will find you use it way more than you think. The stand mixer is the one thing that stays on the counter top besides the knives and cutting board.

                                        1. Although I recognize that the KA "Pro" models have more powerful motors than in the flip-top design, and would thus be more suited to breadmaking, etc., I've always felt that the bowl raising-and-lowering business would be a real PITA. Apparently you have to lower the bowl _and_ remove the beater, just to take the bowl out. So I got the flip-top kind, for that reason alone.

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                                          1. re: Steve Green

                                            I bought one! Didn't realize Costco requires a coupon, but they scanned one for me when I noted the wrong price rung up on the cash register. Wasn't happy that they didn't have red. >:( but I chose a black one instead (the one I went to had grey & black only). Will find out as soon as the throbbing pain in my knee calms down... can't wait to try it out.

                                            I read on The Fresh Loaf forum that the Bosch Compact is back in production. Cost the same as the sale price of the KA pro I just bought, but it looks fantastic. Much more compact (I am very limited for space), light weight (that makes me a bit concerned about the construction of it, but I have limited mobility these days, so anything to help me be more independent (rather than having to wait for help from one of my kids, or hurting myself moving a mixer myself) is good. Plus it has the same sort of attachments - with veggie slicer included (I don't have a food processor, so that's helpful). They have a FP you can buy to go on it, too, although I doubt I'd shell out the money.

                                            Take a look:

                                            http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/bosc...

                                            Watched a couple of videos on youtube & it looks great. Esp. because it's supposed to do both breads and lighter stuff very well - that's what I want in a mixer.

                                            We'll see - I'll post my thoughts about the KA I just got, as soon as I can use it.

                                            1. re: threedogs

                                              I love Pleasant Hill Grain, they are a great company. I bought my pressure cooker and my Viking mixer from them. Extremely helpful and knowledgeable.

                                              When I was mixer-shopping I did look at the Electrolux/ Magic Mill Assistent/DLX or whatever it calls itself nowadays :-) and was really intrigued by it. The main knock against it for me was all the reviews I found saying that it really does not work well at all for small (meaning home cooking size) batches. And since that it is all I do, it just sounded to me as if it was the wrong tool for the job in my situation.

                                              The Bosch at that time only came in the one large size which would again have been overkill for what I do -- if they'd had the Compact model at the time, not sure which I'd have chosen (that one or the Viking). Sounds like the price would have come out to the same as (or perhaps even more than?) the Viking though, because I'd have definitely wanted the Stainless Steel bowl rather than the plastic one it comes with, and that's another $122 above the Bosch base price. The fact that the Bosch standard bowl is plastic really surprised me.

                                          2. I replaced my almost 20 year old KA stand mixer with the new Cuisinart stand mixer last year. I like it a lot more. I wanted to upgrade and they just aren't like they used to be, my mom still has hers that is 30+ years old. The Cuisinart has more features and their meat grinder attachment is made of metal. The KA one has a plastic housing and mine cracked.

                                            1. I'd definitely go for the KitchenAid Pro 6qt stand mixer. I was on the hunt last year and thought the 5qt would be perfect. Found the 5 plus model but returned it after reading some reviews of the benefits of the metal dough hook - that model was on sale for $220.

                                              Thankfully, I was able to take advantage of the Thanksgiving sale online. After instant discounts and rebates, I bought a Pro 6qt for a about $190 - much less than the 5qt artisan. Very happy with it and it makes baking a breeze.

                                              1. Watch Craigslist. I found an A-120 12qt Hobart for $295. I have Mom's C-3 KA from 1950, a 70's? vintage avocado green KA , and I have a couple of fixer upper classic KA's. Mom's was in general use till I inherited it. Still works fine, and I like the looks of the glass bowl, but it does not have the capacity I like. The avocado has more cap, and was a $30 thrift store find that I use when I need high speed whipping. The A-120 gets used for big batches, and tough doughs. The Artisan has plastic gears from what I have heard which would count it out for me. I gave a Pro 600 to my nephew when he got married, and so far I understand it has done great.

                                                As to the current quality issues with KA. Maybe if all of you that have had problems with yours liked the KA Facebook page you could harass them enough to bring the vintage quality back.

                                                1. One word: Viking (I have the 5 qt model).

                                                  I had a KA Artisan for about 8 years. Started giving me intermittent problems in year 6 (shortly after the warranty expired, what a coincidence).

                                                  I never had good luck with bread (either by hand or with the KA) but the breads that I have tried so far in the 6 months I've had the Viking have been great.

                                                  Yes, pricier ($370 for the 5-qt Viking vs. $227 for the Artisan on Amazon) but IMHO well worth it.

                                                  The beater, dough hook, and whisk on the Viking are very substantial 100% stainless steel, btw. No plastic, or even an enamel coating to get chipped. I have since bought the pasta attachment and also the food mill, though I have yet to use those I'm sure I will during the holidays.

                                                  The bowl on the Viking has a wider bottom than the KA, which IMHO is a big plus (bowl is wider as well, IMHO easier to reach into). Bowl locks onto the base easily and securely but also is not a hassle to disengage.

                                                  I shopped exhaustively for a mixer before choosing the Viking and have no regrets at all (other than that I didn't buy it 8 years ago, LOL).

                                                  1. I bought a refurbished Kitchenaid from http://www.kitchencollection.com, comes with 1 yr warranty and the best prices. Backordered items are usually available within a couple weeks. It's refurbished, I called the manufacturer, & they were very helpful & explained that most of these mixers were returned to the store as unwanted gifts, wrong color,etc. Mine appeared to be brand new & I couldn't find any flaws. It's a 5 qt Artisan. I use it a lot more than I thought would. It works well with smaller batches of light doughs like pizza, pasta,etc. Better knead larger batches of stiffer doughs by hand, as heavier doughs strain the motor.

                                                    1. Check garage sales for KA back when Hobart owned them.
                                                      I picked up two for $10 each that required me to just replace the power cord.
                                                      These things will never die.

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                                                      1. re: exvaxman

                                                        You're right. I have a 30+ year-old KA, and just needed to have the thing oiled recently. It will never die.

                                                        1. re: exvaxman

                                                          Wow, wish I lived in your neighborhood! Those are amazing prices, even with the power cord cost.

                                                        2. Not sure I see this referenced in the posts below: I saw a Breville mixer at WS. Anyone tried one?
                                                          Matt

                                                          1. Bosch all the way. We burned out our KA trying to do pasta one time. Replaced it with a Bosch and had it for 13 years before giving it to our niece who is still using it. Runs beautifully. We replaced that Bosch with the newer one which we love.

                                                            Based on our experience we wouldn't recommend KA.

                                                            Also look at some of the Bosch demos on how easy their beaters do merrangue. We also do bread often and Bosch makes short work of that.

                                                            Jim

                                                            1. I'm the OP, and here it is a year later, and I've never bought one! The rational brain keeps saying if I haven't needed one all these years, why now? Should have bought one a hundred years ago!

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                                                              1. re: pine time

                                                                LOL
                                                                Seriously, if you decided to go for one and want to make bread, go for a Bosch Compact if you have a small family. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

                                                                1. re: pine time

                                                                  I'm not telling you that you *should* but if you are using a hand mixer now you would probably love a stand mixer!

                                                                  I have a Kitchenaide Artisan and love it!
                                                                  I keep it in my kitchen counter. Not only is it too heavy to be hauling around much, it gets used more because it's already there and ready to go.

                                                                  I chose KA because I kept seeIng them on Food Network.
                                                                  Most especially on Iron Chef.
                                                                  If chefs are using them, that is a better recommendation than tons of advertising.

                                                                  I chose the Artisan because the Pro was too tall to fit under my top kitchen cupboards.

                                                                  I can have whipped cream in seconds, literally.
                                                                  Probably in about the time it would have taken me to dig my hand mixer out of the cupboard.

                                                                  For decades I had been mixing ground meat for meatloaf of patties.
                                                                  But with the KA paddle it mixes it so much faster and easier.

                                                                  I'm still looking at attachments.
                                                                  No it's not about what I need. It's about what will bring more fun to my kitchen and cooking.
                                                                  If you love to cook I think you would love a stand mixer.

                                                                  1. re: Sparklebright

                                                                    Chefs (unless they're pastry chefs) and bakers have very different needs. If someone's planning on baking bread even occasionally, the KitchenAid isn't the way to go. And I agree with you, a stand mixer is wonderful and lots of fun. It got to the point that I wanted to go beyond what my little hand mixer (which I ended giving away) could reasonably handle. I never looked back.