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Apr 6, 2011 02:55 PM

Places that serve UNACCEPTABLE food

We can't mention anything regarding the hygiene of such places. It's a chowhound board rule.

Only mention that the plate you were served was not good and the reason why?
And what did they do to make you happy about the situation.

Obviously some restaurant can serve you a delicious plate on one day while it's a total FAIL on another one!

So please do mention the reason why is wasn't up to par and did they fix the situation!

My first nominees is La merveille du vietnam also know as YOY on St-Denis see link for the reason

Yoy Cafe
4526 Rue Saint-Denis, Montreal, QC H2J2L3, CA

Merveille Du Vietnam (La
)4526 Rue Saint-Denis, Montreal, QC H2J2L3, CA

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      1. Folks, we do leave up these 'worst of' threads because helping people to avoid bad food is important. But generalized bashing of the entire city's restaurant scene doesn't further that goal -- it doesn't help people sort out the bad from the good from the great -- and it raises hackles and causes a lot of anger and hurt feelings.

        We've removed those replies, and ask that people focus on providing specifics of places they think are poor or overrated, rather than generally complaining about all the food in Montreal.

        1. In terms of bad food, I nominate maison VIP.

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          1. re: vanierstudent

            there's lots of good stuff at VIP
            maybe you haven't ordered it

            1. re: celfie

              Meh, I just feel is a gross misrepresentation of Cantonese cuisine, and considering there is so much more better in the city...

              what would you suggest if some of my friends decide to go on a drunken quest for general tao?

              1. re: vanierstudent

                not everything has to be culturally authentic.

                1. re: celfie

                  Chinese food usually needs to be when you are of Chinese...

                  1. re: vanierstudent

                    How is General Tao that much different than Sweet and Sour pork which is considered "a typical" dish at chinese restaurants, ordered very often by chinese patrons? Both are deep fried, then in some sweet and sour sauce......... Just a thought.

                    1. re: saltnpepperwhat

                      The sauce.

                      Traditionally, Sweet and sour sauce is traditionally made with Haw Flakes as the key ingredient. It has a more complex flavour than General Tao, which I don't enjoy as much.

                      But I find Maison VIP got some really poor dish based on Wok Hei. I guess it is only personal preference...

                    2. re: vanierstudent

                      sorry vanierstudent but this comment does not make sense. You state that chinese food must be culturally authentic when you are chinese, but I am sure you are aware that there is no consensus that General Tao is even authentically chinese. And to say something is culturally authentic is to imply it carries some cultural meaning to all chinese. This is not the case and most chinese view General Tao chicken as fast food.

                      Finally, if you truly believe that General Tao (or General Tso) is of chinese origin, then you should know that the actual General Tso was actually from Hunan. So when you say that Maison VIP serves poor Cantonese then why would you expect it to serve good Hunan?

                      1. re: nextguy

                        There was an article in the NYtimes about it a few years ago, which stated the dish was invented in NYC by a chef from Hunan that was based in Taiwan.


                        Iv'e actually made a post about why I thought it was an overrated and inconsistent restaurant, but it was removed. Basically, the reference to General tao in my post was to the kind of crowd the restaurant gets at 3AM, which is when I was there the few times. I've had hugely oversalted food, and a few dishes that they forgot to put some seasoning in it.

                        I also offered my apologies for not giving out any precisions about my post, thus coming out as aggressive, and I'm sorry about it.

                        1. re: vanierstudent

                          Don't misunderstand me, my comments about your post had nothing to do about your opinion of the restaurant (which I do not frequent anymore for much the same reasons - the food just isn't that good). My comments were strictly about the provenance of General Tao, it's frequently misstated origins, and the idea that chinese need culturally authentic chinese food. Good food is good food whether it is authentic or not. A burger with truffles is not an authentic composition but I am sure a lot of germans would not say it was bad because of it.

                          1. re: nextguy

                            I should have precises this part of my response also.

                            By missrepresentation, I meant overly sweet sauce that is solidified by cornstarch. mystery meat tenderized with a mysterious process that is linked with the used of baking soda, and the like, the lack of dryness in the stir fried noodle etc...

                          2. re: vanierstudent

                            This is a good point. I've been to VIP several times...when I've gone on Tuesday or Wednesday evenings, the food's been great/ Because of that, I also went there for some 3am post-bar eats, and the food was awful...just as vanierstudent describes.

                            Now I know to avoid the place for drunk food, and will continue to eat there for dinners. This is why it's important to have multiple reviews on a resto, and not to rely on just one bad review. I think anyone decides not to try a place based on a single review, or who doesn't consider all the details given in all the reviews, is someone who can't think's hard to be a food-lover (etc., etc.) without having such a skill.

                        2. re: vanierstudent

                          @Vanierstudent: I understand what you are saying. Even if a recipe is not cooked as the original cantonese it still can be delicious to me since I'm not from China.

                          For this thread, what would be unacceptable is being served the same dish with no flavors in it, being burnt or is not fresh.

                          You know that you will never have the real deal here in north america like you do in China. To many factors are involved.

                          As for VIP my experience is from 10 years ago and it was very good but when they had a staff change, I noticed that their food was to salty to my liking. I haven't been there since.

                          La Maison V I P
                          1077 Rue Clark, Montreal, QC H2Z1K3, CA

                2. Benedicts on Monkland. since the change in ownership, they can't even make a burger right.

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                  1. re: C70

                    I second Benedict's. I will never, never go back there after an astonishingly poor experience there. Details here:

                    1. re: kpzoo

                      I'll third Benedict's and raise you one Monkland Grille pizza. Yuck!