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menton1 Apr 4, 2011 03:09 PM

A recent article in the Westchester magazine indicates how wonderful this place is for Chinese food. A glance at the website, the menu seems quite ordinary, but with EXTRAORDINARY prices! These prices rival the high end Chinese spots in midtown Manhattan, e.g., China Grill.

Anybody been here? Why are the prices so high?

I'll take Watermoon in Rye over this place anytime.

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    eatsoutoften Apr 9, 2011 04:32 AM

    Haven't been there in about 2 months but go fairly ofen for dim sum - the hostess knows us by name, all the servers know our favorite must haves. We have eaten dinner there on many occasions, fewer times than dim sum. Have not found a beef dish we love but their Peking Duck is very good- only place we've had home made pancakes- and the Lobster with Ginger and Scallions is fabulous. Vegetables are very fresh and perfectly prepared. Service is pretty good, staff is friendly, courteous and accomodating.

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      debmom Apr 9, 2011 03:14 PM

      EOO, are you referring to Aberdeen or Central Seafood?

      Thanks,

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      285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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        eatsoutoften Apr 9, 2011 03:25 PM

        sorry-Aberdeen- I thought it was implied by heading- Central Seafood also VG dim sum and service- and also good for dinner- eat there often as well- better beef entrees than Aberdeen

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        Central Seafood
        285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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          Dim Sum Diva May 12, 2011 12:16 PM

          Here's a tip for Aberdeen. They take reservations for dim sum on weekends if you make them the day before. Save yourself some waiting and be one of those that seem to waltz in and get a table instantly.

          You're welcome.

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            cubanat May 12, 2011 04:52 PM

            nice diva nice! great tip.

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              pabboy May 12, 2011 07:11 PM

              Seems like they changed their policy. They used to only take reservation for party of 6 or more for dim sum. Good to know! =D

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                Dim Sum Diva Jan 19, 2012 11:20 AM

                Has anyone ever done one of the banquet menus for large parties @ Aberdeen? Was thinking about doing just that for an adult b-day party.

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                  ltlevy Jan 19, 2012 04:19 PM

                  DW has organized many banquets at Aberdeen. However, I don't think she ever used the banquet menus. Instead she's worked with the managers to create a banquet menu, based on the price per person she wanted to aim for,

                  I organized a b'day dinner for DW there and also worked with the managers to create a menu.

                  All in all the managers were extremely helpful in putting together a great menu and the food was well received by the attendees.

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                    vinouspleasure Jan 20, 2012 07:51 AM

                    we've been here many, many times for dim sum but my sense, after reading reviews here, is that the food other than the dim sum, is nothing special. Is that not the case?

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                      pabboy Jan 20, 2012 09:45 AM

                      From my experiences:

                      1) dim sum and regular menu is only guaranteed to be good on Saturday and Sunday.

                      2) Rule #1 does not apply if the back area blocked out for a party.

                      3) never had good dim sum on a weekday

                      4) regular menu is hit or miss on a weekday

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                        Dim Sum Diva Jan 20, 2012 09:49 AM

                        ltlevy: What was the seating situation at the banquets there? I realize they don't have a private room, but was it a decent set up or were people crammed in a corner? Also, did you serve alcohol at the banquet? Would be nice to be able to avoid that. Any suggestions on pp price range?

                        vinouspleasure: I have had their "other" foods there, such as fish from the tank, casseroles, etc. It was good, not mind boggling. I think for my needs for a banquet, most of my guests will be of the non-CH variety (what I call a "beef & broccoli" crowd). Aberdeen, depending on price, will probably fit the bill based on my past experiences there and the convenient location.

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                          ltlevy Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM

                          DSD,

                          Typically, tables of 10. If you are one table, there is an alcove on the main level that can give you some privacy. We've used it and we didn't feel crammed. If you are more than one table, they'll probably sit you on the lower level on one side and spread out across, as needed. We didn't serve alcohol, although sometimes we bring our own wine for our table. Price per person varies based on the dishes you order. For Lunar New Year celebrations we organized, prices were around $40 - $50 pp.

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                            vinouspleasure Jan 20, 2012 01:04 PM

                            thanks! Sometimes we'll order dim sum until we're half full and then an order of noodles. The noodles have always been good though fairly expensive. Of course the kids are never full, so after we're done we head over to nam sen to shop and let kids get a giant pork or sesame bun.

                            Given the recent positive posts on imperial wok, that might be another option for you. I haven't been in a couple of years but i thought their americanized chinese food was better than most and have always wanted to get back to try the hk dishes. My guess is they'll be somewhat less expensive.

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                              Westjanie Jan 20, 2012 01:26 PM

                              Central Seafood also does a lot of banquets (or at least big groups), especially for Chinese families. Their prices are probably a bit better than Aberdeen (or at least we have found them so for regular menu) and the parking is easier (and free,)

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                                ltlevy Jan 21, 2012 04:48 PM

                                Parking for Aberdeen is available in the parking lot on Barker just past the building. During the week it is free after 7pm (even if you get in before 7pm, but leave after it is free). Earlier, during the week, there is a charge, but Aberdeen will validate for some or all of it. On the weekend the lot is free.

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                                rolise Jan 21, 2012 08:19 AM

                                I have always liked Imperial Wok and parking is much easier there too.

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                                  cubanat Jan 21, 2012 11:01 AM

                                  I too like imperial wok but aberdeen for me is better when they are on. never do the dim sum as mentioned during the week but on Sundays its as good as it gets up here. i have not dined in at imperial wok and tried the secret menu mentioned on another board but as for the "beef & broccoli" types its fine. Aberdeen is a notch above but it is harder to park but once your in your good! plus walking distance to kam sen to pick up char sui bao and other staples

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                                    Elisa515 Jan 22, 2012 07:33 PM

                                    Just want to be clear about Imperial Wok--there is no "secret menu" at all--just a recommendation from CHers to look in particular at the Sichuan choices. Also the Taiwanese ones. I eat there with some frequency (especially during second semester), and I don't see it as pedestrian at all.

                                    If I were hosting a group in the White Plains area, Imperial Wok would be up there among my options: reasonable prices, separate room or area depending on group size, variety of dishes to suit different palates, plenty of and easy free parking, easy to find for out of towners. Just sparing them the hell of figuring out downtown White Plains is a gift.

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                                      Elisa515 Jan 22, 2012 07:34 PM

                                      P.S. My post is not a comment on the food at Aberdeen, a place I've never been to. I'd like to try it, although the warnings here that it's only reliably good on weekends is probably why I've never been.

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                                        kdgchow Jan 23, 2012 06:42 AM

                                        Agreed. The thing with Aberdeen and Imperial Wok, they have different strengths. If you're looking for dim sum/Hong Kong/Cantonese dishes, Aberdeen is the place to go. If you're looking for Sichuan - and apparently, Taiwanese, though I haven't tried that part of the menu yet - Imperial Wok is the place to go.

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                                          Dim Sum Diva Jan 23, 2012 07:12 AM

                                          Not a fan of Imperial Wok after a bad experience many years back, on which I'd rather not elaborate. It does sound like things may have changed there, but I am still spooked.

                                          I did pick up Aberdeen's banquet menus this weekend although they do change them after Chinese New Year. It looks reasonable and as if it will be a crowd pleaser. I checked out the spaces and they would work. They charge an $8 / bottle corkage fee if you BYOB.

                                          I always thought that Central Seafood was inferior to Aberdeen. What would their big party space look like, anyone know? Jade Palace (Garden?) also on Central is not even a contender any more, alas.

                                          The only other place I can think of that may work is the Chinese place is Armonk-- is it David's? Anyone know about large parties there?

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                                            Westjanie Jan 23, 2012 11:02 AM

                                            Central Seafood and Aberdeen are both good, but may have different strengths, as would any two French restaurants, etc. Both also cater to a lot of actual Chinese people. Central Seafood has two rooms that comprise the restaurant. Depending on the day of the week and the size of your group, they would probably either put you at one very big table or, possibly, give the smaller room over to you.

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                                              rgny Jan 23, 2012 05:21 PM

                                              I've been to Central Seafood twice with lots of Chinese people (our kids Chinese school holds their banquets there), and enjoyed it. It is definitely Cantonese food, though - don't expect spice! I haven't tried Aberdeen yet but keep meaning to. Right now, my go-to Chinese spot is Hunan Kitchen in Flushing.

              2. BAFU Apr 6, 2011 07:24 AM

                So here's a fair question then: dim sum. Better at Aberdeen or Central Seafood? Opinions please! Have eaten at C/S many many times and believe it to be quite good (for Westchester at least). I can walk to Aberdeen from where I live so I'm debating going there on Sunday.

                Thoughts?

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                Central Seafood
                285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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                  pabboy Apr 6, 2011 07:51 AM

                  See my post above.

                  I'll add that Central Seafood does have a greater selection and only go to Aberdeen on weekends because it's very average on weekdays.

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                    discounteggroll Apr 6, 2011 08:03 AM

                    I was a normal weekender at CS for years (used to go 2-3 sundays a month with my dad) and finally gave aberdeen a try last year. I consider CS a decent dim sum, nothing to write home about. Aberdeen's food in comparison tasted crisper, fresher, and all around cleaner. They get busy so try to get there at 11 or 11:30 if possible. Prices seemed a bit steeper at aberdeen and the layout of the dining rooms (yes there are like 3 or 4 separate rooms) is a bit weird, but I like it since you don't feel like you are in a mess hall.

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                      ltlevy Apr 6, 2011 02:51 PM

                      I second pabboy's comment.

                      Central Seafood has the bigger selection, but what Aberdeen has is tastier. This is not to diminish Aberdeen's selection which has all the standards and then some.

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                      Central Seafood
                      285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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                        cubanat Apr 8, 2011 01:40 PM

                        Agreed with above comments. Also try Kam Sen for "easy dim sum". Far from great dim sum selections but cheap and no waiting! Also the buns & meats are decent. especially the char sui & ribs.

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                          mrsdebdav Apr 8, 2011 09:00 PM

                          For what it's worth (and that may not be much considering I'm veg and don't eat most dim sum anymore), there are quite a few fresh dim sum offerings at Golden Village on Central Ave in Scarsdale, especially on the weekends. I think they are brought up from Chinatown, and are often labeled only in Chinese. Anyways, perhaps worth a try. Hope this helps.

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                          Golden Village
                          365 Central Park Ave Ste 6, Scarsdale, NY 10583

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                      vinouspleasure Apr 5, 2011 07:12 PM

                      >>I'll take Watermoon in Rye over this place anytime.

                      you have somehow divined that watermoon is better not by tasting the food at aberdeen but by looking at the menu on the website? Sounds like the basis of a career, you can review restaurants all over the world from the comfort of your home as long as their menu is online.

                      1. TheDegustationAsian Apr 5, 2011 01:41 PM

                        Haven't been in a few years, but when I lived in White Plains for law school I would frequent Aberdeen for their dim sum. Honestly, living in Brooklyn Chinatown now and having eaten at many of the popular jaunts in Manhattan and Flushing, I feel Aberdeen offers the best Cantonese options in Westchester.

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                          foodiemom10583 Apr 5, 2011 05:27 PM

                          Aberdeen is fine, but like you, Degustation, we miss Brooklyn dim sum. Ocean Palace (Avenue U and 14th Street) was a few blocks away from me when I lived in Brooklyn and it was wonderful (until they chose to close rather than allegedly be taken over by "outside interests.") We just drove in Friday to go to East Harbor on 65th Street. It was SO worth the trip. Parking was lousy (the lot was full by 11 a.m.), but the food and service were phenomenal. I know, wrong board.

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                          1560 Central Park Ave, Yonkers, NY 10710

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                            TheDegustationAsian Apr 6, 2011 06:26 AM

                            The only other place I had dim sum in Westchester was at Central Seafood in Hartsdale. Good enough to satisfy a craving but nothing compared to Brooklyn, which IMHO has better Cantonese food than whats being served in either Manhattan or Flushing.

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                            285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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                              pabboy Apr 6, 2011 07:22 AM

                              I agree Brooklyn Chinatown has the best dim sum but it's far and isn't tourist friendly (a good thing. It's not even Mandarin friendly (a bad thing for me).

                              Here's my order of dim sum preference:
                              1) Brooklyn
                              2) Flushing
                              3) Aberdeen
                              4) Manhattan
                              5) Central Seafood
                              6) Jade Garden
                              7) Hartsdale Garden

                              Even if it was free, I will not eat at Jade Garden nor Hartsdale Garden.

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                                TheDegustationAsian Apr 6, 2011 07:29 AM

                                Haha, thanks for the advice. Should I ever happen to be back in Westchester and in dire need of dim sum I'll be sure to avoid.

                                IIRC both Aberdeen and Central Seafood had carts with their dim sum. The largest problem I often find with these places, is that with less people, often the dim sum wasn't being freshly prepared as often as in the city locations.

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                                285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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                                  pabboy Apr 6, 2011 07:53 AM

                                  Yes. Only go for dim sum at Aberdeen on weekends. It's very average on weekdays.

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                              demifast Apr 8, 2011 04:46 PM

                              So true. Love East Harbor. Going there tomorrow. Worth the drive and the crazy hunt to park. But in Westchester, I agree with other posters - Central Seafood has very decent dim sum on weekends. I've never been to Aberdeen - I'll have to try it.

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                              1560 Central Park Ave, Yonkers, NY 10710

                              Central Seafood
                              285 N Central Ave, Hartsdale, NY 10530

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                            pabboy Apr 5, 2011 07:08 AM

                            Apples and oranges!

                            Aberdeen serves authentic Cantonese style cooking with most entrees $10-$25.

                            China Grill is pan-Asian with appetizers $25-$35 and entrees $35-$60.

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                              menton1 Apr 5, 2011 07:18 AM

                              "Cantonese" reminds me of the old-world places of the past, Egg Foo Young, Shrimp in Lobster Sauce, et al.

                              WaterMoon is a much more modern menu, a gorgeous environment, and really creative dishes. Love the Jicama Salad!

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                                JMF Apr 5, 2011 07:42 AM

                                Menton, the "Cantonese" you are thinking about is that 1950's style American Chinese. Aberdeen does real, authentic Cantonese. Even their "Americanized" dishes are better than most of that style. I haven't been there in a while though.

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                                  pabboy Apr 5, 2011 10:00 AM

                                  Try to find Egg Foo Young in Guangdong, China.

                                  Creative and authentic are mutually exclusive. You won't find Jicama Salad or modern menu at an authentic Cantonese restaurant.

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                                    cubanat Apr 5, 2011 01:03 PM

                                    Watermoon is "gringo-chinese" food for bad palates. It's Olive garden is to Italian cuisine or Taco bell is to Mexican. Menton come on! We would expect more from you!
                                    Aberdeen for Westchester Chinese fare is super. Yeah it's expensive but ya don't have to drive to Flushing either. Its also very rarely as crowded as the lesser expensive dim sum at the placve on central Ave near TJ's so one pays for the convenience.

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                                      menton1 Apr 5, 2011 02:52 PM

                                      I disagree. WaterMoon, and even better its counterpart in Greenwich, Penang, have wonderful, creative dishes with the absolute freshest ingredients. True, these are original creations, and won't be found in Asia, but so what? The dishes are interesting and tasty, the ambience is really gorgeous, and the prices are reasonable.

                                      The Crispy Red Snapper, the Duck Fajitas, and the Ching's Salad (with jicama) are some of my favorites. All very memorable.

                                      This place is certainly NO Olive Garden!! (Let's not get started on the the idea of absolutely NO authentic "Italian" food in this country. Or maybe at best, very rare!)

                                      I know jfood loves Chings/New Canaan, another restaurant operated by the same management, similar menu.

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                                        cubanat Apr 5, 2011 03:40 PM

                                        I have been to both Penang & Watermoon. They IMO are overly sweet sauced palaces! The same way that one would say that a mediocre and boring Italian resto is simply a "red sauce" type of place or a "meatball and spagetti house." No doubt they are not solid performers in that niche/market but they can't be compared to any serious Chinese resto like Aberdeen. They are on the same level to me as Haiku, Toyo, or any of the other fusion-joints that have sprouted up in the area like Starbucks. The worst of them and I know some people that like this place is the Chinatown Brasserie in nyc. Talk about over priced and mediocre! Bleh!

                                        Now I would choose to drive to Flushing all things being equal but Aberdeen does a wonderful job in this area. And the woman server that wears glasses that has been there for ever is superb for the record!

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                                          Shawn Apr 5, 2011 05:24 PM

                                          I haven't been to Penang, but I don't like Water Moon. I think the comparison to Haiku is appropriate-- neither are places that are appealing to true lovers of Asian food. I like my Chinese food at good Chinese restaurants, and my Thai and Japanese in true Thai and Japanese restaurants. These pan-Asian places usually don't do any of the above well. It's like the people who rave about the "creative rolls" at Toyo and complain that Nanase only has plain old boring sushi. To each his own.

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                                  kdgchow Apr 5, 2011 05:50 PM

                                  Anyone had any of Aberdeen's casserole dishes? I've had some excellent ones at Cantonese restaurants in Chinatown and I'm wondering if Aberdeen's measure up.

                                3. ltlevy Apr 4, 2011 08:27 PM

                                  I agree with Shawn and kdgchow on this. Apples and oranges to compare to Watermoon. Aberdeen has the best dim sum and Cantonese cuisine in Westchester. And, believe it or not, pretty decent "Peking" duck. I put Peking in quotes as I think it is really roast duck served Peking style, but the duck and the carving is done well.

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                                    i_eat_a_lot_of_ice_cream Apr 5, 2011 02:52 AM

                                    I went in the fall and had the Peking duck-- it is indeed very good. 4 of us split it and with all the multiple included courses it was more than enough food. I would go back just for that. I've been for dim sum in the past, but not recently, and have always enjoyed that too.

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                                    kdgchow Apr 4, 2011 06:33 PM

                                    Been to Aberdeen a few times. For Cantonese/Hong Kong-style cooking, you can't do better in Westchester. Their dim sum and seafood dishes are very good. Haven't had many of their American Chinese dishes, but then again, I normally don't order those dishes. Is it pricy compared to Chinatown or Flushing? Yes, but I don't think it's outrageous for Westchester.

                                    Never been to Water Moon, but that's an Asian fusion place, so to me, it's not a fair comparison.

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                                    66 Purchase St, Rye, NY 10580

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                                      Shawn Apr 4, 2011 06:28 PM

                                      I haven't been to Aberdeen in a while, but if it is as good as it used to be, it is far superior to Watermoon. There are some excellent, authentic dishes at Aberdeen. Can't say the same about the Asian Fusion at Watermoon (not a fan of Asian Fusion). Yes, prices at Aberdeen are on the high side, but the food really is quite good. One can find better in Flushing, but not in Westchester.

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