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A good "gateway" single malt scotch?

ipsedixit Apr 3, 2011 04:04 PM

I love single-malts, and I'm trying to introduce my significant other to it, who is game to trying single malts but wants to take baby steps before getting up and walking.

Can anyone recommend a good "gateway" single malt?


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  1. Jenni899 RE: ipsedixit Apr 3, 2011 04:31 PM

    hi, thats a tough one without a bit more detail. I lived in Scotland for 3 years, and have always been a single malt lover. it depends on the tastes of your SO....if he/she likes complex flavors and has good palate for the subtle...make sure you get AT LEAST a 20 year old single malt. The highlands tend to be light, very delicate, the speysides-sweet, earthy. Island malts tend to have peatiness ( which I adore) but not to everyone's taste.
    it would be idea to go to a single malt tasting in your area, or find a very good Pub that has a selection and make your own tasting.
    If you want a generic single thats not just Glenfidich yet again....and you arent sure of your SO's taste, try a well aged Speyside.

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      ipsedixit RE: Jenni899 Apr 3, 2011 08:19 PM


      Re: Speysides. One of my favorites, if not the favorite, is the Highland Park 25. My SO liked it, but wanted something perhaps a bit milder, or "gentler" as she said. What do you think of the 12 or 16 year olds?

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        sku RE: ipsedixit Apr 3, 2011 10:59 PM

        Based on that, I'd suggest Old Pulteney, Dalmore or Clynelish, all of which have some common characteristics with Highland Park but are a bit milder.

    2. yarm RE: ipsedixit Apr 4, 2011 08:37 AM

      For me, it was Dalwhinnie Single Malt 15year. I walked into a Scotch tasting party not liking Scotch (probably 40-50 bottles that I could sample), and I came out liking that one. Worked my way up from there.


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        sku RE: yarm Apr 4, 2011 09:34 AM

        Great suggestion.

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          tdg RE: sku Apr 4, 2011 11:17 AM

          Balblair 1997 might be another light, floral option.

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            hazelhurst RE: sku Apr 5, 2011 07:38 AM

            I agree...a Danish friend got into whiskey using Dalwhinnie...I'll even have it when not nursing Laphroaig.

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            DavidT RE: yarm Apr 4, 2011 12:16 PM

            I agree with the Dalwhinnie recommendation. It is a great "starter" single-malt that is usually available at Trader Joe's for a very reasonable price.

          3. EvergreenDan RE: ipsedixit Apr 4, 2011 08:57 AM

            If your SO doesn't already like Scotch, bourbon might be an easier toe-in-the-water experience. And a bourbon cocktail would be even easier. Or maybe the toe's already wet....

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              ipsedixit RE: EvergreenDan Apr 4, 2011 09:51 AM

              ... I think the foot is wet (both of them).

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                EvergreenDan RE: EvergreenDan Apr 4, 2011 12:02 PM

                Laphroaig 10. Push SO in and hold head under water. ;)

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                  pthaloearth RE: EvergreenDan Apr 4, 2011 06:36 PM

                  lol, great idea!

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                    Dan G RE: EvergreenDan Apr 4, 2011 10:38 PM

                    I convinced my wife, who seldom drinks whisky and when she does it is a light Speyside, to try Ardbeg Supernova one evening a couple of weeks ago... for the next couple of hours she was like a dog with peanut butter on its tongue, trying to get rid of the taste!

                    And this week, I told a friend who is a fairly new to whisky, and drinks a lot of the bog common names (Glenlivet, Glenfiddich and Macallan) he could have any unopened bottle from my cabinet - I'm moving and can't take it with me. There was a huge range of choices: Balvenie, Dalwhinnie, Longrow, Aberlour, Highland Park, 3 Bruichladdichs, a couple Ardbegs (including another supernova and a coreyveckan), a couple of Laphroaigs. I was sure he would go for the HP or Longrow. He grabbed the Bruichladdich Peat! I am seeing him Saturday, will be curious as to how he is enjoying it.

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                      ipsedixit RE: Dan G Apr 5, 2011 07:33 AM

                      Can I help you move?

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                  Dan G RE: ipsedixit Apr 4, 2011 10:11 AM

                  I'm a long-time single malt drinker with a wife and a lot of friends who dabble a bit. I find that the speysides are probably best entry whiskys: Balvenie makes some great whiskies that are both complex and palatable, with notes of honey and citrus rind. Dalwhinnie would be a good choice also.

                  Outside of Speyside, Highland Park (note to ipsedixit - it isn't a speyside) is always a winner - the 12 yo is a good start, but the 18 is far smoother and absolutely beautiful. 25 is maybe a bit too expensive for someone to try if they don't know if they like whisky.

                  I'm also partial to Bruichladdich, which though it is from Islay isn't peated (well, some are but the standard 15 and 17 year olds aren't) and has a great caramel flavour profile that can be attractive to newcomers.

                  Regarding Jenni899's comment about going for at least a 20 year old - I have to strongly disagree. Extended age doesn't necessarily make whisky better, and most of the distillers see that 10-18 years works best. Too long in a barrel can make the whisky too heavy, and sometimes the complexity of the malt gets overpowered by too much aging. The standard bottlings from most distilleries, at 10, 12, 15 and 18, are probably the best choices - they make those decisions for a reason. Longer aging might be interesting to afficianados (I love to try them, but have seldom had anything past 26 years that I thought was worth the money) but for entry level whiskies, stick to the basics.

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                    ipsedixit RE: Dan G Apr 4, 2011 10:26 AM

                    Thanks Dan G.

                    Re: Speyside and Highland Park ... yes, realize that HP is not a Speyside. My comment was just that the HPs share alot of the same qualities as Speyside single malts. Thoughts? Not true?

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                      sku RE: ipsedixit Apr 4, 2011 10:36 AM

                      Speysides, by reputation, tend to be smooth drinkers with malty characteristics. Highland Park which comes from the Orkney Islands, is much more coastal in characteristic and has more peat than your average Speyside; it is more similar to the traditional northern Highland malt. Of course, the caveat is that there are, in every region, whiskies that don't fit the steretype of whiskies from that region (sometimes it seems there are more exceptions than rule followers).

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                        ipsedixit RE: sku Apr 4, 2011 11:22 AM

                        Gotcha. Thanks.

                  2. M_Xandria RE: ipsedixit Apr 24, 2011 10:41 PM

                    I only wish to echo and add that Balvenie Doublewood and Dalwhinnie are both good introductory scotches, in my opinion. Easy on the palette, very smooth finish and leave you wanting more.

                    Scotch bars or local scotch clubs are also very useful for choosing new scotches as well. I find most scotch review websites to be fairly informative, and tasting notes are some of the most specific and explicit (very helpful, they are).

                    Of course, surrounding onself with fellow scotch drinkers allows for excellent suggestions and sampling! ;-)

                    Good luck!

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                      hawkeyeui93 RE: ipsedixit Aug 27, 2011 04:58 PM

                      If you can find it, I think a good gateway single malt scotch is 12 year Cardhu [Speyside] ... ''Just about the cleanest, most uncluttered, pure, sweet malt you will ever find.'' -Jim Murray, Whisky Bible 2008.

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                        ncyankee101 RE: hawkeyeui93 Aug 27, 2011 09:30 PM

                        I've never had Cardhu but seem to recall it is one of the main components of a blend I like, maybe Johnnie Green?

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                          hawkeyeui93 RE: ncyankee101 Aug 28, 2011 04:45 PM

                          Yankee: I read somewhere it was one of the main blends used for the JW label ...

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                            sku RE: ncyankee101 Aug 28, 2011 06:30 PM

                            I think it was supposed to be a big component in Johnnie Blue.

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                              hawkeyeui93 RE: sku Aug 28, 2011 06:46 PM

                              The last bottles of Cardhu I bought at a duty free shop in Canada were in the $35 range, so it is quite a bargain [compared to JW Blue].

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                                ncyankee101 RE: hawkeyeui93 Aug 28, 2011 10:08 PM

                                Hitimewine has it for $35.

                                I actually got a decent price on some Blue label - had a friend bring back a sample pack of 200 ml bottles from out of state for me for $50, with the blue, gold, black and red labels. Haven't tried the blue yet, saving it for a special occasion.

                                The sample pack originally retailed for $80 and has become very hard to find - so when i saw it for $50 I jumped at the chance. I saw it in Myrtle Beach recently for $93!

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                                  hawkeyeui93 RE: ncyankee101 Aug 29, 2011 09:07 AM

                                  I have a classmate from law school that drinks JW Blue as his regular drinker ... He raves about it. Sometime, I will have to step up to the plate and buy a bottle. If you special occasion ever pops up, let me know how it is ....

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                                    ncyankee101 RE: hawkeyeui93 Aug 29, 2011 09:32 AM

                                    From what I have heard from many who have had both, JW Gold (and some say Green) are both better than the Blue, and what you are paying for is the age and rarity of some of the malts in the Blue, several of which have been discontinued and are only used in that blend.

                                    Also nearly everyone who has had both says for the same money Chivas Royal Salute is much better.

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                                      sku RE: ncyankee101 Aug 29, 2011 10:15 AM

                                      Blue is very good. I personally like it better than Gold and Green, but there is no way it's worth the price. You can get lots of better single malts for the money.


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                                        hawkeyeui93 RE: sku Aug 29, 2011 03:04 PM

                                        That has been my position on forking over the money for it ... Thanks for the review link.

                        2. scubadoo97 RE: ipsedixit Aug 29, 2011 08:56 AM

                          Aberlour 10 is an excellent single malt for the $ and an easy one to drink as well.

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                            mrs bacon RE: ipsedixit Aug 29, 2011 05:48 PM

                            Glenmorangie 10 is a smooth, easy to like and very pretty whisky.

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                              ncyankee101 RE: mrs bacon Aug 29, 2011 08:24 PM

                              Sorry but I would disagree, Glenmorangie 10 "The Original" is one of the very few single malts of which I have finished entire bottles and would not buy again. I found it bland, watery, with a slightly sour and hot finish.

                              Glenlivet 12, Isle of Jura 10 yr old. Balvenie Doublewood, Dalwhinnie all are smooth, easy to like whiskies IMHO. Other than the Balvenie they are not all that complex or interesting, but all are pleasant enough.

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