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Rosario's restaurant? (Ditmars and 38th St., Astoria)

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bennyt Apr 3, 2011 03:24 PM

I passed by a storefront at the corner of Ditmars and 38th today that advertised a Rosario's pizza and burger joint, slated to open this spring. I assume this is the same Rosario who owns the Italian grocery on 31st St. near the Ditmars subway. Anyone have any info?

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Rosario's Deli
22-55 31st St, Queens, NY 11105

Rosario's Famous La Bella
38-01 Ditmars Blvd, Queens, NY 11105

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    emfred Jun 22, 2011 04:53 PM

    Rosario's La Bella is actually really, really good. My boyfriend and I have been trying all the pizzas in the area lately and this is our favorite. We had the regular (non-Sicilian) recently and it seemed to have a lot of garlic and seasoning on top, in addition to the toppings. Can't wait to try the Sicilian. They also had a pretty robust menu of pasta standards, calzones, zepps, and unique items like sweet potato fries! with marshmallows! This completely knocks Alba's off the list. The only downside is the hours could be longer - they close at 10 pm most nights. Try!

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    Rosario's Famous La Bella
    38-01 Ditmars Blvd, Queens, NY 11105

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      SpiceJunkies Jul 6, 2011 06:13 AM

      Sorry emfre, but I'd have to dissagree with you. While the round pies' are passable, the square pies was just a square version of the round pie's. I'm not sure what style I would call this either. It's like a cross between a NY slice and NJ tomato pie. And the cheese and sauce combo on the pizza was really nice. The aged mozz was fine, and the sauce was really, really good. But the crust was really where the pie faltered for me.

      First off, they are cooking the round pies on a screen. This means none of the char that I look for. I don't know why folks use those things. The crust was sturdy enough to hold all the chesse and sauce, and was a thickness that I would call a little on the thick side for a NY pie, but it was the texture that turned me off. It's not that the crust was bad, but it just does't have any of the 'chew' that I desire in top-notch pizza. It was too delicate, almost like they were using cake flour.

      The Sicilian was even more dissapointing. Why even bother making a 'Sicilian' if it made from exactly the same ingredients in exactly the same way as the round pie? While it tasted fine, there was none of that fried in the pan texture on the bottom on the crust, and it too suffered from the lack of chew in the dough,. Cheese and sauce were good enough, but they were on the pie exactly as with the round.

      The folks running the joint were nice enough, though I'm not sure how or why they had so much staff with too little to do. I imagine that in time there will be less employees sucking the profits out of the place. The sitting area was not arranged in a thoughtful manner. The tables seemed like an afterthought, and they could fit many more seats in there. And while this did not affect my experience I could not help to think that this would hurt their bottom line. Their extensive menu could get them a large eat-in crowd at dinner, but the dinning room isn't conductive to anything but having a slice.

      So that's my first report. I wish them the best, but now I know 'I've tried the rest,' and La bella is not 'the best'. (If your slogan says you are the BEST pizza, you better back it up. Particularly in NYC)

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      Rosario's Famous La Bella
      38-01 Ditmars Blvd, Queens, NY 11105

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        Cheese Boy Jul 6, 2011 12:43 PM

        >> 'fried in the pan texture on the bottom on the crust' <<

        Artichoke probably does this best for sure on 14th. As for Rosario's, I will have to give it a try next time I'm in the nabe. Maybe they're still in a learning phase of some kind.

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          SpiceJunkies Jul 6, 2011 06:02 PM

          Artichoke does do this well. I stopped in to Ben's in SOHO for the first time in a while this past weekend, and I sure love their tomato and onion Sicilian too. Another great fried crust. I could go on and on others that do it right, so maybe this new spot will adjust. I hope they figure it out, because based in the sauce they have real potential.
          I'll still eat mostly Rosario's (the deli) pizza for me when in the hood.

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      richg35 Apr 6, 2011 05:38 PM

      My understanding is that it is not the same Rosario.

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        bennyt Apr 24, 2011 07:25 AM

        Really? What is that understanding based on? (The picture of the dude on the menu bore an uncanny resemblance to the 31st St. Rosario...)

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          richg35 Apr 27, 2011 10:47 AM

          Based on someone actually asking him about it back in September.

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            bennyt Apr 30, 2011 03:10 PM

            That's a good clue ;)

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              SpiceJunkies May 1, 2011 04:35 PM

              I too asked Rosario of Rosario's on 31st St. and he laughed and said he knew nothing about it. Of course he is a real ball buster, so maybe he was being sly, but I doubt. With the great reputation he has in the 'hood, I'd hope any restaurant he'd open would have his picture all over.

              I hope for the best with the new place, but for some reason I don't have high hopes. It'll be hard for them to beat the other red sauce Italian offerings close by. We sure could use a top notch pizza place, but for some reason I'm not holding my breadth. I guess I'm trying to set myself up to be plesantly surprised.

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                richg35 May 3, 2011 10:04 AM

                Just curious - what nearby red sauce Italian places would be hard to beat?

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                  dannyola May 3, 2011 10:29 AM

                  What would be hard to beat? Forno Italia on Ditmars and 45th. Unbelievable pies. Really. Not to mention spedini alla Romana, and the free focaccia that comes straight out of the brick oven before your meal. Plus the veal and chicken cutlets are at least as good as at any overrated joint in Little Italy/Arthur Avenue/South Philadelphia. All served in an old-fashioned-looking pair of dining rooms one of which features a framed photo of Al Pacino as Michael Corleone (circa I or II) who glares at you over every delicious bite.

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                  Forno Italia
                  43-19 Ditmars Blvd, Queens, NY 11105

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                    richg35 May 3, 2011 04:35 PM

                    That's really was the only place I could think of - was wondering if there were any others I was missing.

                    Hellgate on the Park is supposed to be good but I haven't gotten around to going.

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                    Hellgate on the Park
                    19-19 Ditmars Blvd, Queens, NY 11105

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                      SpiceJunkies Jun 2, 2011 03:37 PM

                      richg35: Go ahead and try the place you mentioned. But after you try the chicken parm don't tell too many people :)

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                      Jeffsayyes May 3, 2011 07:01 PM

                      I don't know man, the pies I've had there were much less than stellar. I definitely like the ones at rosario's deli better.

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