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Anyone know who the importer of the Corsendonk Abbey Ales is?

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  1. http://greatbrewers.com/importer/st-k...

    Just changed the beginning of the year http://beernews.org/tag/corsendonk/ Had previously been Phoenix Imports.

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    1. re: JessKidden

      Thanks. Guess Phoenix is done? Did business with them way back.

      1. re: chimay5

        Phoenix did some good work over the years, not least being to work very hard to revive Thomas Hardy's Ale.

        1. re: Jim Dorsch

          Doesn't Phoenix actually own the "Thomas Hardy" brand now? IIRC, that was the hang-up finding another UK brewer to product it after O'Hanlon dropped, or at least rumored to be.

          Phoenix also was the Samichlaus importer back in the Hurlimann-era days, IIRC.

          1. re: JessKidden

            I believe you're correct on both counts.

            1. re: Jim Dorsch

              The Saxons, George and his wife Pat are interesting people. George was an executive at National Brewing in Baltimore when it was bought out by Paul Kaulvinovitch (think I have his name right) of consolidation fame. He bought failing breweries for their labels which he then had brewed I think, by Heileman. George was riffed as part of the process. He had some contacts in England and decided to get into the beer importing business, thus the name Phoenix Importing (resurrected bird connection). His first imports were, from Eldrige Pope in Dorset, Royal Oak Pale Ale and Thomas Hardy's, Samichlaus from Zurich and the Leifmans Ales from Belgium.
              Phoenix was one of the first to help build the special beers import market.

              1. re: chimay5

                I recall that George learned about importing through an import he worked on before going on his own. I think the beer was Presidente.

                1. re: chimay5

                  Paul Kalmanovitz owned the General (Lucky Lager), Falstaff, Pearl and finally Pabst Brewing companies, but never had anything to do with National or Heileman (except some lawsuits involving the latter during the merger mania of the 70's-80's).

                  Heileman bought the merged Carling-National a few years after the two Baltimore headquartered companies had merged in the late 1970's.

                  Long after Kalmanovitz died, Pabst did wind up owning many of the Heileman brands (including the C-N brands) when they bought the Stroh collection of labels in 1999. Stroh had bought Heileman a few years earlier.

                  1. re: JessKidden

                    Thanks for helping my poor memory.

                    1. re: chimay5

                      No problem. Now, if you can just remind me of my nieces' and nephews' names before the next family event, we're even.

                      (Watching my once favorite pre-craft era beers, Ballantine XXX Ale and India Pale Ale, be destroyed by Kalmanovitz and his company during the 1970-90's helps with my memory of the specifics).