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A week in San Fran and Wine Country in early June - Help needed finalizing itinerary

Hello all! I've been reading the San Fran Bay Area posts for a couple weeks now so I've gotten a lot of great ideas but it's hard to tie down certain meals since I don't know the area so I'm looking for a little help here. Our friend is a wine rep so she's scheduling all of the winery tours. Winery reservations so far are at Arrowood, Cakebread, Long Meadow Ranch, T Vine, Staglin & Frank Family.

Thursday: Arrive early afternoon. Staying in Union Square and would like a place close to the hotel for a bite and some drinks before the Alcatraz night tour.

Also need a place for a later dinner after the tour which ends around 9. My SO wants to go to In-N-Out Burger but I'm hoping to convince her to go somewhere a little better.

Friday: Up early to head to Muir Woods. Is there anything good and quick for breakfast either in Union Square or on the way to Muir Woods?

I also need help with a place for lunch after the woods. We would need it to be pretty casual since we'll be in hiking gear.

For dinner Friday we are heading to the Off the Grid event at the Fort Mason Center. I'm very excited about this but don't have a lot of experience with food trucks so not sure what to expect.

Saturday: Heading to the Ferry Plaza Farmer's Market for a few hours. Will most likely pick up breakfast and lunch there. 2 of our friends are coming in to meet us and we're heading to Perbacco for dinner.

Sunday: Driving down to Sonoma. We need a suggestion for a breakfast in San Francisco around 8 am and lunch in Sonoma. We have reservations at Barndiva for dinner.

Monday: SO and I are heading to Napa. I'm thinking of hitting up Bouchon Bakery for breakfast and Bouchon for lunch but open to suggestions. Not sure where to go for dinner this day.

Tuesday: The foursome is taking the tour of Long Meadow Ranch and having lunch on site. Dinner is at Bottega for my friend's 30th bday.

Wednesday: We head home this day on the red eye so we have the entire day to play. We are toying with going to Cow Girl Creamery and Hog Island Oysters on the way back into San Fran.

For lunches and breakfast I really don't want to spend more than $20 a person and less would be better. But I'm willing to spend more if it's something that's so good I just can't miss it. I will spend more for dinners, although TFL is out of my budget. Tasting menus are great but I really don't want to get dressed up except for Bottega and maybe Barndiva so nothing too fancy please.

Places I've researched after reading about them on the board that sound great to me:
Tartine Bakery - but is it hard to get in?
Gitane - definitely want to do drinks here but not sure where it is in relation to Union Square
Blackbird Bar - cocktails again
Perbacco/Barbacco - Was thinking of Barbacco for lunch but not sure if it's too similar to Perbacco.
Bar Crudo
Dottie's True Blue
Oenotri - possible for Monday dinner but not sure if that's too much Italian for one trip

Thanks in advance for your help!

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Perbacco
230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

Tartine Bakery
600 Guerrero St, San Francisco, CA 94110

Bouchon Bakery
6528 Washington St, Yountville, CA 94599

Bar Crudo
655 Divisadero Street, San Francisco, CA 94117

Dottie's True Blue Cafe
522 Jones St, San Francisco, CA 94102

Barndiva
231 Center St, Healdsburg, CA 95448

Gitane Restaurant & Bar
6 Claude Lane, San Francisco, CA 94108

Bottega
6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

Bouchon
6534 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

Barbacco
230 California St, San Francisco, CA 94111

Oenotri
1425 1st St, Napa, CA 94559

Off the Grid
Fort Mason Center, San Francisco, CA 94123

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  1. Forgot to mention that I'll try any type of food as long as it's yummy. :)

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    1. re: Erincc77

      If you are interested in Hog Island Oysters, consider just getting them at the Oxbow Market in Napa instead of driving all the way out to the point -- it is an AWFUL lot of driving just for oysters and you would have the benefit of spending a little more time in Napa and enjoying its offerings.

      Monday dinner at Oenotri in Napa might be overkill on the Italian from Bottega the night before. Consider Bistro Jeanty for French, Morimoto for Japanese fusion, or even Rotisserie & Wine, Tyler Florence's place.

      The rest looks great and having breakfast and lunch at Bouchon is not a bad choice!

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      Bistro Jeanty
      6510 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

      Bottega
      6525 Washington Street Suite A9, Yountville, CA 94599

      Tyler Florence Shop
      59 Throckmorton Ave, Mill Valley, CA

      Bouchon
      6534 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

      Oenotri
      1425 1st St, Napa, CA 94559

      Morimoto
      610 Main Street, Napa, CA

      Rotisserie & Wine
      720 Main St, Napa, CA 94559

      1. re: CarrieWas218

        I had never heard of Rotisserie & Wine but the menu looks really good! I'm not sure my SO would be into the menu at Bistro Jeanty and Morimoto looks a bit pricey. Is it worth the cost?

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        Bistro Jeanty
        6510 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

        Morimoto
        610 Main Street, Napa, CA

        Rotisserie & Wine
        720 Main St, Napa, CA 94559

        1. re: Erincc77

          I guess price is relative; all three are high-end, special occasion dining. For Morimoto, I almost recommend it for lunch with the $25 Bento Box affordable considering the dinner menu's $35+ entrees.

          I do think Bistro Jeanty is worth the money and for Rotisserie and Wine, share an entree (or skip entirely!) and order lots of sides and the potted meat platter! That is where the restaurant shines.

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          Bistro Jeanty
          6510 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 94599

          Morimoto
          610 Main Street, Napa, CA

    2. So a little correction of some of your geography: Sonoma is north from San Francisco (not south). Gitane is very near Union Square, so that would be a great stop for you for cocktails and food either before or after your Alcatraz trip. Tartine Bakery has long lines, but you'll be fine getting in, it would be a good place to grab your early breakfast either before Napa or before Muir Woods, especially if you want to grab food and eat in the car (and the lines won't be long that early). Dottie's is another good idea for breakfast, as is Canteen on that Sunday (they open at 8, I think and if you get there then you'll get right in).

      I agree that you shouldn't go all the way out to Point Reyes; either get your Cowgirl/Hog Island fix at the Ferry Building or at Oxbow (only Hog lsland at the latter, both are at the former).

      I loved Boon Fly Cafe in Napa for breakfast, so that could be an idea instead of Bouchon Bakery, especially depending on which way you're coming from Sonoma, it might be literally right on your way.

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      Tartine Bakery
      600 Guerrero St, San Francisco, CA 94110

      Bouchon Bakery
      6528 Washington St, Yountville, CA 94599

      Boon Fly Cafe
      4048 Sonoma Highway, Napa, CA 94559

      Gitane Restaurant & Bar
      6 Claude Lane, San Francisco, CA 94108

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      1. re: JasmineG

        Thanks for the breakfast recs. I will definitely try one if not all three!

        I've been trying to convince our friends to go to Hog Island and Cowgirl at the Ferry Building and now I can show them this post as proof that it's a better idea then going to the other locations.

        I just checked out Boon Fly's menu and the "Morning Libations" section caught my eye in an awesome way. This looks like a great place for breakfast. Have you been there for lunch or dinner?

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        Boon Fly Cafe
        4048 Sonoma Highway, Napa, CA 94559

        1. re: JasmineG

          You might want to put Fremont Diner on your list for one of your breakfast/lunches in the wine country.

          I suggest, since you have plenty of time, that you map some of the places you're interested in on google maps and get some kind of idea of the geography. I'm going to demur a little and say that if you are going to have a whole day to "play" and you like to hike, that heading out to Point Reyes for a hike and stops at Cowgirl and Hog Island might be a nice way to spend the day.

          Where are you coming from? That will give us a better idea for prioritizing places that are different from what you might have available back home.

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          Fremont Diner
          2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

          1. re: Ruth Lafler

            Yes! I saw a post about Fremont Diner last night and their pulled pork sandwich and put that on my life of places to check out. It looks wonderful.

            I will definitely map it out but the thing I'm finding difficult is that it's somewhat hard to tell distance especially in San Francisco. For example, something might be a few miles away, but it might be quick to take the BART or even a taxi. I'm not opposed to walking either within reason, say 15-20 minutes. I'm going to try to make stops in Wine Country a bit more linear though.

            I'm coming from Ft. Lauderdale so most of the places in San Francisco are going to be new to me simply because of the "farm to table" element. We do have some gems here but for the most part it's chains and places that seem to miss the mark. I'm also more apt to cook at home or hit up my favorite local places rather than branching out.

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            Fremont Diner
            2660 Fremont Dr, Sonoma, CA

            1. re: Erincc77

              The city of San Francisco proper is very compact, especially the parts that are of interest to visitors. The hills divide it up into distinct neighborhoods and pockets, though, and some of them are effective barriers (I have walked up and over Nob Hill, but I don't recommend it!). If you like to walk, it's a really lovely city to walk in.

              For after Muir Woods I have a couple of suggestions. You can go into Sausalito, which is touristy but still enjoyable, or you can come back into the city into the Richmond District (on your map, the area north of Golden Gate Park), which is one of my favorite parts of the city and is packed with eateries of every possible ethnicity. For something really different, maybe try Burmese food at Burma Superstar. Don't worry about your clothes: San Francisco is very casual. Bring layers: San Francisco is famous for being cool and foggy in the summer, but often warms up midday (between 11 and 4), and then the wind comes up and brings the fog back in the late afternoon. It will be warmer in the wine country.

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              Burma Superstar
              1345 Park Street, Alameda, CA

              1. re: Ruth Lafler

                I'm definitely going to Burma Superstar for lunch on Friday. It looks incredible!

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                Burma Superstar
                4721 Telegraph Ave, Oakland, CA

                1. re: Erincc77

                  Read up on Burmese food, their menu also includes Indian and Chinese dishes that are less interesting.

                  I think Little Yangon is the gold standard, in SF I prefer Larkin Express.

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                  Larkin Express Burmese Kitchen
                  452 Larkin St, San Francisco, CA 94102

                  Little Yangon
                  6318 Mission St, Daly City, CA 94014

        2. For your Muir Woods trip, try the Dipsea Cafe for breakfast, it is right on the road to Muir Woods, just after you exit Highway 101. They are open for lunch too. But by lunch time you will have many other options. Look for some of the recent threads about Sausalito.

          http://www.dipseacafe.com/

          Sounds like you will be doing a lot of driving, a GPS unit will be your friend.

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          Dipsea Cafe
          200 Shoreline Hwy, Mill Valley, CA 94941

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          1. re: pamf

            Dipsea looks great! I'm especially drawn to the homemade Gravlax. Yum!

            And I will be bringing a GPS and have one on my phone but I can get lost anywhere! I just call it an adventure and hope I get to where I need to be eventually.

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            Dipsea Cafe
            200 Shoreline Hwy, Mill Valley, CA 94941

          2. It sounds like for breakfast near Union Square you're looking for a sit-down place, but if not (or not necessarily), then consider a stroll through Chinatown to pick up Chinese breakfast items. Stockton. I love to do this every time we visit San Francisco, and always end up with way more food than we can possibly eat (and for a very low price). There are restaurants you can sit down at, but I prefer to stop at several places (generally on Stockton, or on Jackson near Stockton/Grant) and pick up a variety. Some places also have coffee, just regular, not fancy espresso drinks.

            I haven't been real good at keeping track of the names of places I tend to buy items from, but I think they include Good Mong Kok Bakery, 1039 Stockton; Yong Kee, 732 Jackson; You's Dim Sum, 675 Jackson. I usually get a combination of sweet, more pastry-type items, as well as some savory things.

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            Yong Kee
            732 Jackson St, San Francisco, CA 94133

            You's Dim Sum
            937 Stockton St, San Francisco, CA 94108

            Good Mong Kok
            1039 Stockton St, San Francisco, CA

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            1. re: Lexma90

              This is a great suggestion. I definitely don't need a sit-down place, pick up and go is fine with me too especially since it should be cool there. We are dying of heat stroke already in Florida. How long of a walk is it to Chinatown from Union Square?

              1. re: Erincc77

                It somewhat depends on your hotel location, but using google maps from the center of Union Square to Jackson & Stockton, it's .6 mile, about a 15-minute walk. Of course, if you find something good to eat before you reach Jackson, then it's closer. It is an uphill walk, just to warn you, but not real steep (I live in Denver, so I don't notice much the ups and downs walking around S.F.). Technically, I guess, the beginning of Chinatown that's nearest Union Square is the big gateway at the intersection of Bush and Grant (about 3 blocks from Union Square), but you have to walk a couple of blocks along Grant after that intersection to get to the food places. Generally speaking, Grant has more of the touristy junk shops, but some food, and Stockton has more of the "authentic" groceries and food places.

                1. re: Erincc77

                  The beginning of the touristy Chinatown stretch of Grant Ave. is Bush St., three blocks from Union Square. The beginning of the non-touristy Chinatown stretch of Stockton St. is four blocks from there, at Sacramento St..

                  The sidewalk seating at Rouge et Blanc is a fun place to watch the tourist parade and they have good food.

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                  Rouge Et Blanc
                  334 Grant Ave, San Francisco, CA

              2. Check out Golden West for breakfast. Tiny little take out place but seating available in nearby Crocker Galleria bldg. Great food from a creative chef.
                http://theauwest.com/

                May be your SO can get her In-N-Out fix immediately upon arrival as there is an outlet right off the hwy one exit south of airport. As for bites & drinks before tour, check out happy hour at following places.....

                Colibri
                Grand Cafe, Hotel Monaco
                Farallon
                Pied Piper, Sheraton Palace (don't see it on website, but a hound JUST mentioned they have one

                )

                Gitane would be a great idea post tour as it only opens at 5:30.

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                Crocker Galleria
                360 Degree Gourmet Burrito, San Francisco, CA 94102

                Golden West
                8 Trinity Pl, San Francisco, CA 94104

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                1. re: ceekskat

                  Good point about Gitane. I will research the places you mentioned. There's a great likelihood I'll hit them all up eventually.

                  Have you been to Bourbon & Branch? I saw a post on this last night and it looks like a cool place. I can't get reservations until a month prior to my visit. I'm curious about the dress code, if any and if you just order drinks or is there food also?

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                  Bourbon & Branch
                  501 Jones St, San Francisco, CA

                  Gitane Restaurant & Bar
                  6 Claude Lane, San Francisco, CA 94108

                  1. re: Erincc77

                    Have not been to Bourbon & Branch but I don't believe res. should be a problem if done in advance. From website, reservations are required for full menu dining in the "main bar" but walk-ins are welcome for cocktails in the "library"...from 6:00 p.m.

                    Edited to add: Something new I just read about...
                    http://www.dailycandy.com/all-cities/...