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What are L. A.’s best (and worst) Reuben* sandwiches?

maxzook Apr 1, 2011 11:28 AM

* To avoid apples-and-oranges comparisons, for purposes of this thread let’s agree that a Reuben is made with corned beef, sauerkraut and Swiss cheese on either rye or pumpernickel, with thousand-island or mustard on the side. I know many would disagree, but imho a pastrami sandwich with the same toppings is meant to be called a Rachel sandwich. And I’ve had very good Rachels and similar variations made with turkey/turkey pastrami, but they aren’t Reubens as far as I’m concerned. If you disagree, start your own thread ;P.

I have a soft spot for old-school dining haunts along the lines of Musso and Frank and the Ranch House in Ojai, but not to the extent that I forgive bad service and/or mediocre food. Which is why I’ve been avoiding the Smoke House in Toluca Lake for a few years — my recent experiences there were less than favorable on either point.

So when the Smoke House was suggested last night for dinner, I decided it was time to give the place another chance. Given my most recent exposures to their cuisine, I can’t really explain why I chose to order a Reuben, since a badly made Reuben is a ghastly thing.

Well, whaddya know. I can now say that the Smoke House makes the best Reuben sandwich I’ve ever had in L. A.

What struck me on the first bite was the perfect balance of ingredients, and that it was perfectly and evenly cooked.. Even with good ingredients, it’s impossible to make a good Reuben if you overstuff the meat. You end up with cold corned beef, hot sauerkraut, hard cheese and burned bread. Can you say Jerry’s Famous?

The Thousand Island should always be on the side. Fries can be a bit heavy as a side order; I was okay with the Smoke House’s housemade chips but I might have preferred coleslaw even at the risk of cabbage saturation.

I’ve read about the Rachels at Brent’s (yes, I *know*, they call them “pastrami Reubens” … sigh), but I don’t know if they make them with corned beef. I will make every effort to try a Reuben the next time I’m at Langer’s, but it’s hard when that pastrami starts singing to me before I’ve gotten off the Red Line.

So, there it is. What’s you’re idea of a perfect Reuben sandwich in L. A., and what in your experience is the worst version you can bear to think of?

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Smoke House Restaurant
4420 W Lakeside Dr, Burbank, CA 91505

  1. maxzook May 30, 2011 06:49 PM

    I teach a class on Thursday nights, which is why I have never been to Campanile's grilled cheese night even though it's one on my favorite LA restaurants.

    Next time I'm on hiatus I intend to rectify that and try Mark Peel's Reuben. Can anyone who's done so comment?

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      EricDC May 31, 2011 08:51 AM

      I, too, must agree with the recommendations of Langer's and Brent's.

      In Santa Monica, I'll warn you that Izzy's is only serviceable and Fromin's is actually sorta bad.

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      Fromin's Restaurant
      1832 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403

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      foodworthy May 30, 2011 02:00 PM

      For any vegetarians that might find their way to this topic, Locali on Franklin has the most amazing vegetarian Reuben. I think they must take their fake meat and soak it in pickling spice and beet juice for color. Unbelievable.

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        JosephEBacon Apr 23, 2011 10:33 AM

        For the best I have to include Brent's, Langer's, Nate & Al's and Greenblatt's. I can't honestly say which one is the best!

        But the worst one I had was the time I went to Togo's--the meat was overcooked and leathery!

        1. maxzook Apr 23, 2011 01:49 AM

          I just remembered where I had another exceptional Reuben, a quintessential old-school L.A. restaurant that I too frequently overlook: Magee's Kitchen at the Farmers Market.

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          Magee's Kitchen
          6333 W 3rd St Ste 624, Los Angeles, CA 90036

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            ChefBrew Apr 1, 2011 04:54 PM

            I really like Solley's on Van Nuys. They have a great reuben as well as a super reuben with corned beef and pastrami. Definitely get the New York size if you want more meat. Otherwise, the LA version is much thinner on the meet. They also have great sweet potato fries to go with it.

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            Solley's Restaurant & Deli
            4578 Van Nuys Blvd, Van Nuys, CA 91403

            1. Peripatetic Apr 1, 2011 02:07 PM

              I really like the Reuben at Greenblatt's Deli. They have a proper Reuben as well as a Rachel (on the menu as a Reuben with choice of pastrami). They also have a "Reuben with corned beef and pastrami" which, while it may be an abomination, is certainly a tasty one. Unfortunately, at $13.95, it's not the cheapest Reuben in town, but you're paying for quality, location and -- in my opinion -- decent ambiance, service and relative freedom from crowds.

              Oh, and Greenblatt's has beer: Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Reuben sandwiches are a great pairing!.

              Greenblatt's Delicatessen
              8017 W Sunset Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90046
              323-656-0606
              http://greenblattsdeli.com/
              (open 365 days a year!)

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              1. re: Peripatetic
                perk Apr 1, 2011 10:45 PM

                I'm at Greenblatt's a lot.....before and after screenings at the DGA. I agree about the Reuben.
                And they have a terrific selection of wines to go with the food, too!

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                  Charles Pepper Apr 2, 2011 05:03 PM

                  Third the Greenblatts recommendation.

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                    perk Apr 2, 2011 05:07 PM

                    And there's parking behind the building....which is a huge plus.

                2. maxzook Apr 1, 2011 11:56 AM

                  Confirmed online that Brent's makes a corned beef Reuben. Is it as good as everyone says about their Rachel?

                  I don't make it to Victor's Square as often as I'd like (not the former Victor's Deli at the same corner). At the rate I can eat Reubens at my age and physical condition, this is going to take a *long* time ...

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                  Brent's Deli
                  19565 Parthenia St, Northridge, CA 91324

                  Victors Square Restaurant
                  1917 N Bronson Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90068

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                    maudies5 Apr 1, 2011 12:01 PM

                    R&D on Montana makes a delicious Reuben.

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                      JAB Apr 1, 2011 12:32 PM

                      I stated this in a previous thread, the corned beef at R&D is not deli style.

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                        maxzook Apr 1, 2011 01:47 PM

                        Neither is the corned beef at the Smoke House, for what it's worth.

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                          Servorg Apr 1, 2011 02:11 PM

                          Well, it may not be deli style (they use coleslaw instead of sauerkraut) but it is absolutely delicious (and their corn rye is wonderful).

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                          yogachik Apr 2, 2011 08:48 AM

                          R+D *used* to make the best Reuben, but no longer. They changed it. It's no longer grilled, it's cold -- blech. And the meat is now really fatty, so hard to bite into. blech, again.

                          I've given it two or three tries, and just got grossed out. I've ordered it the old way (they let you do that), but with that meat being so fatty, it's just not the same.

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                          mc michael Apr 1, 2011 12:53 PM

                          At the rate I can eat Reubens at my age and physical condition, this is going to take a *long* time ...///

                          You'd better hurry. exilekiss could be breathin' down your neck. w/ pics!!!!

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                            maxzook Apr 1, 2011 01:50 PM

                            MAX'S S.O. (looking over my shoulder at this thread): Jesus, you can't eat that many Reubens!

                            MAX: Yeah, well, whose idea was the Smoke House, anyway?

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                            OCSteve Apr 1, 2011 01:22 PM

                            I agree with you on the distinctions, but then I believe that a Martini must be made with gin. Call me old-fashioned.

                            It's been a few years, but if memory serves, the Reuben at Brent's is quite good.

                            I can definitely recall the worst Reuben I've ever had, but it wasn't in LA, it was in Chadron, NE. Naming the worst one I've had in LA is a tough one, but Jerry's is close.

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                              perk Apr 1, 2011 10:44 PM

                              Yes....a gin martini. Almost a lost art.

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                                coffeebrownies May 30, 2011 09:02 PM

                                Having actually been in Chadron, NE for a square dance at which they served casseroles for "lunch" at 9 pm, I cannot even imagine what they would serve and call a Reuben. I don't think anyone named Reuben has actually even made it through Chadron, NE.

                              2. re: maxzook
                                wienermobile Apr 1, 2011 02:24 PM

                                Brent's Reuben is one great sandwich.
                                http://www.brentsdeli.com/

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                                  wienermobile Apr 1, 2011 02:37 PM

                                  A photo of Brent's Reuben. Yum. 1st place. Served on Grilled Rye Bread with Melted Swiss Cheese, Hot Sauerkraut and Russian Dressing.

                                   
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                                    wienermobile Apr 1, 2011 02:41 PM

                                    Langer's Reuben. #88 - HOT CORNED BEEF, Sauerkraut and Swiss Cheese Grilled on Rye. 2nd place.

                                    Hey wait a minute that looks a lot like pastrami doesn't it? Oops...Sorry, but the corned beef one almost looks the same...

                                     
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                                      bulavinaka Apr 2, 2011 07:11 AM

                                      >>Even with good ingredients, it’s impossible to make a good Reuben if you overstuff the meat. You end up with cold corned beef, hot sauerkraut, hard cheese and burned bread.<<

                                      Second Brent's - enjoyed one this past December. Brent's version defies one of the laws of physics for a great Reuben - the portion of corned beef is warmed through and generous.

                                      After chowing down on the first half of the sandwich, I think many eaters are at the tipping point. They could probably take two or three bites of the second half but would probably be hard pressed to finish it.

                                      1. re: bulavinaka
                                        Servorg Apr 2, 2011 07:38 AM

                                        I recently had my only bad black pastrami Reuben at Brent's when there was actually way too much pastrami stuffed into the sandwich, overwhelming the taste ratio. That problem was compounded by the pastrami being way too hot. But I'm sure that was an aberration.

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                                          bulavinaka Apr 2, 2011 08:13 AM

                                          First post for you at this time of the morning? You must have either rode an extra few or just woke up from your buttermilk bar-induced coma... :)

                                          I guess even a place like Brent's can screw things up - but most places would be too light on the pastrami and too cold as well?

                                          1. re: bulavinaka
                                            Servorg Apr 2, 2011 09:43 AM

                                            Both surmises were/are correct! ;-D> I was there at opening, so that may explain the problem. They got surprised by an order of a Reuben at 6 AM by their first (and only customer by the time I left) of the day

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                                              bulavinaka Apr 2, 2011 09:50 AM

                                              6AM? A Westsider at Brent's in Northridge at 6AM? You set a high bar mi amigo - I bow to the Servorg!

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                                                Servorg Apr 2, 2011 09:59 AM

                                                If you've been up for 4 hours by that time it's no biggie... ;-D>

                                      2. re: wienermobile
                                        A5 KOBE Apr 2, 2011 10:08 AM

                                        Brent's! Easily #1 in Los Angeles.

                                        Although I prefer the Black Pastrami Reuben, the corned beef is also quite tasty. Always get my sauerkraut grilled.

                                        1. re: wienermobile
                                          Delucacheesemonger May 30, 2011 02:10 PM

                                          From the pic, it appears the meat is machine sliced, a huge negative for me.

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                                            wienermobile May 30, 2011 06:27 PM

                                            No it is not hand cut at Brent's, but it is a great sandwich.

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                                      mc michael Apr 1, 2011 11:42 AM

                                      I'm not an authority on reuben sandwiches, but i like the one served at Victor's Deli in Hollywood.

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                                      Victors Square Restaurant
                                      1917 N Bronson Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90068

                                      1. maxzook Apr 1, 2011 11:29 AM

                                        Here are my authorities on the subject of Reuben-Rachel etymology:

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_sandwich

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_sandwich#Rachel_sandwich

                                        http://www.rowlandweb.com/reuben/history

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