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OK I'll bite - what do the Twitter counts on threads mean?

buttertart Mar 31, 2011 02:51 PM

New feature today - and what precisely does it mean? A thread has been tweeted about x number of times???

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  1. Quine RE: buttertart Mar 31, 2011 02:55 PM

    I find it extremely annoying!!! Floats with the page and I HATE it. Can you turn it off?

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      MplsM ary RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 03:08 PM

      You can block it with Adblock on Chrome

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        Quine RE: MplsM ary Mar 31, 2011 03:10 PM

        Cool, how do I get to it, I use Chrome.

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          MplsM ary RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 03:15 PM

          https://chrome.google.com/webstore/de...

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            Quine RE: MplsM ary Mar 31, 2011 03:24 PM

            Works! TYVM!

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              Quine RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 05:15 PM

              I love this ad blocker, so happy you advised me on it!
              Now I can't wait for that stupid floating "take survey" ball to appear! Evil laugh HA HA Ha!

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                MplsM ary RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 08:06 PM

                You are welcome.

                I used to be a Firefox only gal. It's largely due to the all the Chow stuff I couldn't block with Adblock Plus on Firefox that I started using Chrome. I like this Adblock so much I might actually slide the developer a few bucks - which I've never done before. This ad blocker is just so slick and easily tunable.

                Disclaimer---
                I am in no way associated with or have ever had contact with the the developer.

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                  Quine RE: MplsM ary Mar 31, 2011 09:03 PM

                  I am also not in ANYWAY, geesh I found it from here! associated with chrome ad block bu I also donated.

                  It work Damn*d GREAT!

              2. re: Quine
                Mr Taster RE: Quine Apr 1, 2011 10:27 PM

                Oh yeah! It does work, and so simple, too.

                Mr Taster

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            small h RE: MplsM ary Mar 31, 2011 04:45 PM

            Any way to block it on Firefox? I hate it. Hate, hate, hate. Also? Hate.

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              goodhealthgourmet RE: small h Mar 31, 2011 05:28 PM

              yeah, i'd love to know that as well. i have AdBlock enabled on Ffx but this darned thing is still there, and driving me NUTS...

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                small h RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 31, 2011 05:32 PM

                I've been rolling with the Chowhound punches for years now. The redesign didn't bother me much. I don't mind ads for cat litter. But this thing is REALLY annoying. It's like a gnat flying around in my peripheral vision. No, bigger than a gnat. A buzzard.

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                  Quine RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 31, 2011 05:38 PM

                  ghg: if you use Chrome the ad block that was suggested to me (up thread) totally got rid of it and extremely easy to use.

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                    goodhealthgourmet RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 05:47 PM

                    thanks, i actually tried Chrome for a while when Ffx had an epic fail with one of their updates and it was running *excruciatingly* slowly...i wasn't crazy about Chrome, and then Chrome THAT slowed down so i switched over to Ffx 4, which is now zooming along...but this stupid thing is REALLY irritating.

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                      Quine RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 31, 2011 06:35 PM

                      Our mileages do vary, Chrome is sleek and fast for me, FF never really made me like it and I was coming from Opera, so I was half there. But I think up thread someone mentioned an ad block re FF? Not sure.

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                        goodhealthgourmet RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 06:45 PM

                        that was me :) i *have* Ad Block Plus installed and enabled for Ffx and the damn floating box is still there!

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                          Quine RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 31, 2011 06:48 PM

                          WOW, it so Totally cured it fo me here. I am thrilled it the product, since I watch alot of Hulu, I can control what is blocked where.

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                            onceadaylily RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 31, 2011 08:23 PM

                            It is for me as well.

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                      Jay F RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 1, 2011 03:31 PM

                      AdBlock no longer works for me on Firefox. I installed it mainly so I wouldn't have to look at things that move, but it stopped working.

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                        goodhealthgourmet RE: Jay F Apr 1, 2011 05:47 PM

                        which Ffx version are you using? i just upgraded to 4.0 for Mac.

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                  MGZ RE: Quine Mar 31, 2011 03:16 PM

                  Yes, for the love of all things holy, would you please turn it off????

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                    smartie RE: MGZ Mar 31, 2011 03:18 PM

                    plus 1 to turn it off I don't have nor want twitter

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                    Jay F RE: Quine Apr 1, 2011 03:30 PM

                    Yes, get rid of it. Please.

                  3. linguafood RE: buttertart Mar 31, 2011 03:24 PM

                    It counts how often a thread has been tweeted. You want me to do that right now? >insert evil grin<

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                      HillJ RE: linguafood Mar 31, 2011 03:56 PM

                      ah so being one of the largest food communities on the Net isn't enough we have to enhance our social networking stats thru FB, Twitter, the left side SHARE tab is growing....

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                        linguafood RE: HillJ Mar 31, 2011 04:05 PM

                        why, of course!! :-D

                        on the other hand, i was just asked about a dish - whether it was traditional or not, and had to email a friend who makes said dish. with the new thingee on the left hand side, i coulda just emailed the thread.

                        hate to be the lone voice, but a) it doesn't bother me and b) i find it convenient.

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                          HillJ RE: linguafood Mar 31, 2011 04:06 PM

                          c) it's not going away any time soon so share away!

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                            linguafood RE: HillJ Mar 31, 2011 04:08 PM

                            i might......

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                            MGZ RE: linguafood Mar 31, 2011 05:17 PM

                            "had to e-mail a friend"

                            Come on, it's not like you had to actually call.

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                              goodhealthgourmet RE: MGZ Mar 31, 2011 05:29 PM

                              ha!

                              i'm still laughing at this one :)

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                                linguafood RE: MGZ Apr 1, 2011 09:13 AM

                                no, i didn't have to actually call. i did have to actually send an email with that question, which i could have avoided by using the email function to the left.

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                                  MGZ RE: linguafood Apr 1, 2011 09:56 AM

                                  I assure you, I understood your initial point. I'm sure that upon reflection you can see the ironic humor I offered in reply

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                                    linguafood RE: MGZ Apr 1, 2011 10:00 AM

                                    inbetween my first two cups of coffee, i can sometimes miss the irony. my bad '-)

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                                      buttertart RE: linguafood Apr 1, 2011 02:21 PM

                                      I don't mind it either, really. The email thing is rather fun.

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                                        aching RE: buttertart Apr 4, 2011 03:53 PM

                                        But sooooooo time-consuming and inconvenient. =)

                              2. re: linguafood
                                Ruth Lafler RE: linguafood Apr 4, 2011 01:20 PM

                                Chow already had an email the thread option. Geez, the last thing I need is people reposting my comments here on facebook.

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                                  hohokam RE: Ruth Lafler Apr 4, 2011 01:40 PM

                                  There hasn't ever been anything to stop people from posting thread and post links to Facebook, Twitter, or any site where users generate content.

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                                    Ruth Lafler RE: hohokam Apr 4, 2011 03:00 PM

                                    No, but let's not encourage them! :-)

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                                      Gio RE: hohokam Apr 5, 2011 05:35 AM

                                      This so true. I just Googled something and on page 2 there was my name, Gio CHOW, and a click away brought up all my postings from yesterday right up till a few minutes ago. When I clicked on my name I shot straight to my profile page which included the stuff usually hidden...

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                              Kunegunde RE: buttertart Mar 31, 2011 07:39 PM

                              I was able to clear it in Firefox. You have to have the Element Hiding Helper add-on for Adblock Plus. You click on your little Adblock stopsign icon (upper right toolbar for me) then select "Select an element to hide" from the dropdown menu. Then use the cursor to outline the share-thingy with red (it's actually 5 or 6 elements so you have do do each piece separately until they're all gone). Then you get a popup menu and click the lower right button that says "add element hiding rule." Repeat as needed.

                              Chowhound has the most hideous message board software I know (posts aren't numbered or truly sequential, no mouseover for thread titles, etc), why do they keep making the browsing experience even more unpleasant? It's only the wonderful content provided by posters that makes it worth it, and some days even that isn't enough to make it worth visiting such a crappy interface.

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                              1. re: Kunegunde
                                goodhealthgourmet RE: Kunegunde Mar 31, 2011 07:59 PM

                                @Kunegunde, i'm officially declaring you my CH hero of the week! thank you for the Ffx tips - i just added the Helper extension and deleted all the individual elements, and it worked. ahh, much better :)

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                                  mirage RE: Kunegunde Apr 1, 2011 06:59 AM

                                  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!

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                                    meatn3 RE: Kunegunde Apr 1, 2011 10:32 AM

                                    You are the greatest! That thing was driving me mad...I appreciate you clear, simple directions - worked perfectly for my level (or lack) of tech ability!

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                                      odkaty RE: Kunegunde Apr 1, 2011 11:41 AM

                                      Thank you.

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                                        Mr Taster RE: Kunegunde Apr 1, 2011 10:18 PM

                                        When CNET took over in 2006, they built new software from the ground up modeled somewhat after the old interface.

                                        http://replay.waybackmachine.org/2002...

                                        has never had a typical bbs interface, and it shouldn't. It has, however, generally had a relatively clear and clutter free design (Chow ads notwithstanding) and I totally agree that the Twits bar in the upper left is incredibly distracting. Chowhound is once again confusing its Chowhound audience (who are focused entirely on accurate, specific food information and are not afraid to read long posts about it) with the Chow crowd, who reflect a much more, ahem, modern and trendy demographic.

                                        Mr Taster

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                                          rworange RE: Mr Taster Apr 5, 2011 10:22 AM

                                          >>> Chowhound is once again confusing its Chowhound audience (who are focused entirely on accurate, specific food information and are not afraid to read long posts about it) with the Chow crowd, who reflect a much more, ahem, modern and trendy demographic

                                          1. The first word in that sentence should be "Chow" and not "Chowhound". I am guessing no Chowhound moderator was involved in this design.

                                          2. As to the modern and trend demographic I guess I just don't understand why iphone, Blackberry and other such apps are non operative for the most part while the focus goes on these social networking bells and whisles. Even my teenage kids can't be torn away from their smart phone apps. Yet the apps that would appeal to the "modern and trendy" crowd get no love here..

                                          1. re: rworange
                                            Mr Taster RE: rworange Apr 5, 2011 11:34 AM

                                            Whoops, you're right... should have been CHOW, not Chowhound as you described.

                                            As for the non-stop march of technology, we all make value judgments. Being able to access Chowhound on-the-go was a total pipe dream back in 2003. Back then, all of us old timers were driving around with stacks of Chowhound printouts in our gloveboxes. (Remember those days?) So in that way, the modern smartphone truly is the natural evolutionary step for Chowhound, whose core mission is to get us out to new and interesting places with delicious food.

                                            Now what about this Twitter thing? Not really necessary to achieving this goal-- or at least certainly not such a natural companion as the smartphone was to the usefulness of Chowhound.

                                            This technology that came to known as "social networking" always rubbed me the wrong way. Do you remember how 10 years ago, the FaceSpaces and MyBooks of the time used to be the exclusive domain of high school kids and child molesters? Now Facebook is something your grandma would use. I was never interested in any of it, so I totally missed out on how this transition occurred. There was always something vaguely (or overtly) creepy about something so impersonal trying to convince me to make friends with it. Now that there's a good chance that your mom, aunt, uncle and friends are all TwitBooking, there's actually a somewhat legitimate reason to sign on, but I'm already conditioned against it. It's admittedly a hard and steadfast bias, and it does annoy my sister, for example, when I ask her to email me photos that she just blasted out to a thousand people with the stroke of a screen tap. Call me a luddite, if you must... I just think if my sister wants to share photos of my niece with me (instantly, mind you) that she can send her brother a personal note with an e-mail attachment. My values are such that something as imitate and personal as sharing joyous times with your child shouldn't be blasted out to 1,000 semi-anonymous strangers. And I've had to remind her that putting something on your facebook wall is not the digital equivalent of sitting on your sofa with a friend sharing family photos. It's the equivalent of printing 10,000 copies of your family photos and distributing them from an airplane over Manhattan. But it *feels* like the sofa thing.

                                            Eventually social networking evolved into a kind of "opt-in spam", where people who you only ever marginally knew were suddenly sending you things you really couldn't care less about. To my mind, I spent the last 15 years trying to *eliminate* spam from my inbox-- not inviting more in! So the whole thing always seemed rather absurd.

                                            So to summarize:
                                            Smartphone = Good, natural bedfellow and companion of Chowhound.
                                            TwitBook = Odd, awkward stepchild, not natural. Bad.

                                            Mr Taster

                                            1. re: Mr Taster
                                              hohokam RE: Mr Taster Apr 5, 2011 11:57 AM

                                              The funny thing is I use Twitter and Facebook all the time to communicate with chow-minded folks about food and to keep up with chowish happenings in my area.

                                              Sure, there are folks who feel the need to share the details of their physiological and emotional states every ten minutes ("Fatigue and Hunter Reports on the 8s"). But just as one can opt in to this sort of spamstorm of minutiae, one can opt out, either by applying easily implemented filters or by severing connections altogether.

                                              I'm curmudgeonly beyond my years, but I even I can see how folks might find value in the connection between this site and social networking sites.

                                              1. re: Mr Taster
                                                rworange RE: Mr Taster Apr 5, 2011 12:11 PM

                                                I'm not anti Twitter or Facebook. However, in terms of importance in attracting people to this site, it would seem the smart app should have a higher importance, but then again I don't make the decisions.

                                                I wouldn't care if it didn't introduce a ton of bugs and slow the site

                                                Lots of restaurants use Facebook as their website, so I get tons of info off that. As to restaurants and Twitter, it can have its place like for places with daily changing menus.

                                                I am inspired by this latest change to finally create my own Facebook page and sign up for Twitter ... to chat about each Chow installation. Bet I can get a lot of hits and "likes" with that.

                                                I'll use it as my sig line ... joking about the sig line, but not the Facebook page. It will give me a new hobby until the bugs are fixed.

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                                            Chimayo Joe RE: Kunegunde Apr 2, 2011 04:26 AM

                                            That thing has been bugging me since the moment I first saw it. Thanks for telling me how to get rid of it. It's gone.

                                            1. re: Kunegunde
                                              Peripatetic RE: Kunegunde Apr 2, 2011 01:14 PM

                                              You can do this directly in Adblock Plus (without the Element Hiding Helper):

                                              1. Go to: "ABP" -> "Preferences" -> "Add Filter..."

                                              2. Add this filter rule:
                                              chowhound.chow.com###share_side_bar

                                              This removes all four slider elements in a single filter rule.

                                              You can also remove some of the other Facebook/Twitter/Email sharing clutter:

                                              1. This filter rule removes the widgets above the title in the original post in each thread:
                                              chowhound.chow.com###fb_post_widget

                                              2. This filter rule removes the "Connect with Chow" box in the side bar:
                                              chowhound.chow.com###connect_w_chow

                                              Et viola!

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                                                mnosyne RE: Peripatetic Apr 2, 2011 02:56 PM

                                                It works! It works! Bless you!

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                                                  goodhealthgourmet RE: Peripatetic Apr 2, 2011 07:13 PM

                                                  awesome! thank you, thank you, thank you :)

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                                                    Mr Taster RE: Peripatetic Apr 2, 2011 09:18 PM

                                                    Peripatetic, I think I'm in love with you.

                                                    Mr Taster

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                                                      Midlife RE: Peripatetic Apr 5, 2011 10:24 AM

                                                      I thought I loved you too but I did what I think is correct and it hasn't blocked the side bars. I downloaded AdBlockerPlus and created the filter rule you suggested. I can see it in the rules list and it is checked, but it doesn't work even after restart. Sorry to turn this into a learning experience but those tabs were driving me nuts with the several seconds they take to load.

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                                                        Peripatetic RE: Midlife Apr 5, 2011 11:45 AM

                                                        Midlife, are you using Firefox or Chrome?

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                                                          Midlife RE: Peripatetic Apr 5, 2011 12:01 PM

                                                          firefox 3.6.16

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                                                            Peripatetic RE: Midlife Apr 5, 2011 12:10 PM

                                                            Hmm, not sure why it's not working for you. When looking at this thread, what URL do you see in the menu bar? Is it possible that ABP has been disabled for this page, or for Chowhound as a whole, or everywhere? Normally the ABP logo is white with black letters (rather than red with white letters) if it's been disabled.

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                                                              Midlife RE: Peripatetic Apr 5, 2011 01:27 PM

                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/775749

                                                              The logo is red with white letters

                                                              Hope the screen pic is big enough to see.

                                                               
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                                                                odkaty RE: Midlife Apr 5, 2011 03:04 PM

                                                                Did you restart Firefox?

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                                                                  linguafood RE: odkaty Apr 5, 2011 03:14 PM

                                                                  How about you guys email this thread to each other and discuss all following technical details there... oh wait, you HATE that function '-D

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                                                                    Peripatetic RE: linguafood Apr 5, 2011 04:16 PM

                                                                    > How about you guys email this thread to each other

                                                                    The "email function" isn't a private messaging function, just a mechanism to facilitate forwarding content off-site. Unless something has changed recently, CH doesn't have any mechanism for private messaging.

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                                                                      Midlife RE: linguafood Apr 5, 2011 04:16 PM

                                                                      linguafood........ I don't hate the function........... I don't like the time it takes to load which, in my case, seems to hold up my ability to scroll down the topic page. ;O> snort

                                                                      1. re: Midlife
                                                                        linguafood RE: Midlife Apr 5, 2011 04:24 PM

                                                                        oh, that's a bummer. that would bother me, too. fwiw, i use safari on a macbook and have NONE such problems.... not sure if that's a function of the computer or the browser.

                                                                    2. re: odkaty
                                                                      Midlife RE: odkaty Apr 5, 2011 04:14 PM

                                                                      I re-booted the computer.

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                                                                      Peripatetic RE: Midlife Apr 5, 2011 04:22 PM

                                                                      > Hope the screen pic is big enough to see.

                                                                      Hmm, it's about the size of a postage stamp on my monitor. :(

                                                                      Maybe you have a Flickr/Picasa/etc. website you can use?

                                                              2. re: Midlife
                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: Midlife Apr 5, 2011 08:18 PM

                                                                @Midlife, try the fix Kunegunde suggested above:
                                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7757...

                                                                it's a bit more tedious, but it worked for me when i noticed that some of the elements i tried to hide using Periatetic's suggestion actually reappeared.

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                                                                  Peripatetic RE: goodhealthgourmet Apr 5, 2011 08:48 PM

                                                                  That's strange, they definitely haven't reappeared for me.

                                                                  I made one refinement that might have an effect: I changed the filters from:

                                                                  chowhound.chow.com###share_side_bar
                                                                  chowhound.chow.com###fb_post_widget
                                                                  chowhound.chow.com###connect_w_chow

                                                                  to

                                                                  chow.com###share_side_bar
                                                                  chow.com###fb_post_widget
                                                                  chow.com###connect_w_chow

                                                                  That might help.

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                                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: Peripatetic Apr 5, 2011 08:55 PM

                                                                    actually i took care of it all with the element hiding extension. it was strange, because some of them reappeared and some didn't...but i suspect the adjustment you made probably would have done the trick.

                                                                    thanks for all your help!

                                                                    1. re: Peripatetic
                                                                      Midlife RE: Peripatetic Apr 6, 2011 12:10 AM

                                                                      Took out the "h-o-u-n-d", hit enter>apply, and all the tabs disappeared immediately. Didn't even need to restart. THANK YOU !!!!!!!!

                                                                      1. re: Midlife
                                                                        Peripatetic RE: Midlife Apr 6, 2011 12:35 AM

                                                                        Great!

                                                                        Yes, I noticed that under some circumstances CH navigates to other subdomains of chow.com besides chowhound.chow.com. I didn't really work out when and where, but using chow.com in the filters seems to pretty much cover it.

                                                                2. re: Peripatetic
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                                                                  MarlboroMan RE: Peripatetic Apr 7, 2011 08:09 AM

                                                                  I say we all chip in and buy Peri a gift certificate or something. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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                                                                    Peripatetic RE: MarlboroMan Apr 7, 2011 10:33 AM

                                                                    Your expressions of appreciation are reward enough. Just glad I could help. :)

                                                                    Don't forget Kunegunde, who had the original idea!

                                                                3. re: Kunegunde
                                                                  maplesugar RE: Kunegunde Apr 3, 2011 07:55 PM

                                                                  @Kunegunde all posts are numbered. If you click permalink on any of the posts you'll see the link in your browser window has a few more digits tacked on the end.

                                                                  Permalink (and I didn't realize this right away when I joined) also allows you to link directly to the particular post in a thread for example: someone is asking for a recipe for apple pie, you remember reading that goodhealthgourmet posted such a recipe in a one of the super long "What are you baking these days?" threads and it was fabulous, you can cut & paste the permalink in your reply and whoever clicks on the link will be directed not just to the Baking thread but straight to goodhealthgourmet's post.

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                                                                    Kunegunde RE: maplesugar Apr 4, 2011 03:22 PM

                                                                    Maple, that's good to know and very useful. I was thinking of really basic numbering for skimming, like in one corner each post gets numbered 1,2,3 etc as they are made. Since they don't do true sequential posting and allow intermediate replies, I guess that doesn't work.

                                                                    And to Peripatetic, thank you for your much more elegant solution. Your way means it doesn't get downloaded in the first place, the way I posted just hides it after downloading. Any tips in general at using lines of code to Adblock instead of Element Hiding? Unless someone like you gives me the line, I'm pretty limited to right-clicking to see if Adblock registers on an image through that menu, and often it doesn't.

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                                                                      Peripatetic RE: Kunegunde Apr 4, 2011 05:52 PM

                                                                      > Any tips in general at using lines of code to Adblock instead of Element Hiding?

                                                                      I used Mozilla's DOM (Document Object Model) Inspector to work out what were the highest-level expendable elements:

                                                                      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fire...

                                                                      However DOM Inspector may be tricky for the uninitiated.

                                                                      Your tip about the Element Hiding Helper was very helpful. I used both add-ons in combination with one another to come up with the above solution.

                                                                4. onceadaylily RE: buttertart Mar 31, 2011 08:36 PM

                                                                  I've been peeking into site talk today, to see if this was a problem for anyone else before I mentioned it . . . because I thought that such boxes popped in and then just slid away after a few moments. I wanted to make certain it wasn't just a random glitch before I voiced annoyance. Because it is annoying.

                                                                  Does it have to be exactly where I cast my eyes if I have even remotely good posture? Must I slouch? I'm thirty-seven; if I don't stop slouching now, it will be too late. My mother will be right. I will be humped over for all eternity.

                                                                  Can't the chatterbox be placed to the right, with the ads, and not threatening to overlap the posts themselves? The format on CH has led us to cast out eyes to the left for the posts, and to the right for . . . everything else. Why can't this follow that mold?

                                                                  1. mnosyne RE: buttertart Mar 31, 2011 10:14 PM

                                                                    What is this stupid share button, and why won't it leave me alone???? I hate it!!

                                                                    1. MGZ RE: buttertart Apr 1, 2011 05:04 AM

                                                                      I have this terrible affliction that makes me question things. Considering that the same "info" is in the OP, I really don't see why, or how, the floater is necessary/useful. Moreover, what purpose does the "count" serve? Does anyone care? Why?

                                                                      I mean, what information is it supposed to convey? Lots of people told on-line acquaintances about it? More than other, similar threads? So you better tell someone too!! Or, one person decided to tell lots and lots of others? Either way, who could care?

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                                                                        jen kalb RE: MGZ Apr 1, 2011 07:58 AM

                                                                        Aargh get rid of this thing or stick it in a corner somewhere - the box come up right over the left side of the thread names - right where you look when you want to start reading a thread.. cant use google chrome on my IE8 corporate system, and I have the pop-up blocker turned off for chowhound because some things (dont remember what) dont work on CH if that is activated.

                                                                      2. Chris VR RE: buttertart Apr 1, 2011 07:48 AM

                                                                        What confuses me is that on the few threads I've clicked on the number of Tweets to see who tweeted it and what they said, the bulk, if not all, of the tweets come from what looks like a bot of sorts, all starting with "twpto". I'm not a fan of Twitter in general, but I don't really understand the point of Twitter bots, if that's what this is.

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                                                                        1. re: Chris VR
                                                                          meatnveg RE: Chris VR Apr 3, 2011 09:12 PM

                                                                          It drives traffic to the site from Twitter and advetises the thread on Twitter

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                                                                            Chris VR RE: meatnveg Apr 4, 2011 04:58 AM

                                                                            But who manages these bots?

                                                                            1. re: Chris VR
                                                                              meatnveg RE: Chris VR Apr 4, 2011 08:36 PM

                                                                              No one. Once the code is written, it runs on auto-pilot until the programmer changes the variables (to change frequency etc) or erases it completely.

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                                                                                Chris VR RE: meatnveg Apr 5, 2011 05:06 AM

                                                                                I really feel stupid here, but who writes that code?

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                                                                                  meatn3 RE: Chris VR Apr 7, 2011 08:38 AM

                                                                                  I'm wondering the same. Is CH creating these? They don't seem user generated since it is all the same message. I don't get it...

                                                                        2. MGZ RE: buttertart Apr 1, 2011 08:28 AM

                                                                          The other question is, does Chowhound get any remuneration for including the feature? If not, the whole thing reminds me of the free stuff giveaways from Coors Light, et al. You know, get a couple big t*tted blondes to give free t-shirts to drunks. They're thrilled to get the attention from the girls and something that makes them feel a part of something popular. In the meantime, they actually act as free advertisements for the product.

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                                                                            linguafood RE: MGZ Apr 1, 2011 09:15 AM

                                                                            that's b/c a couple of big-titted blondes can sell ANYTHING to a bunch of guys, drunk or not.

                                                                            i still am baffled at the outcry over this feature. ignore it. how hard is that? much easier than big-titted blondes, i'd gather.

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                                                                              MGZ RE: linguafood Apr 1, 2011 09:56 AM

                                                                              Look, as I said, I am inclined to inquiry. Moreover, I dislike the scent of selling. I can't help but gets whiffs of it from the new feature. I have no interest in joining Facebook - been down that road ("No, I don't want to be your 'friend.' If I had wanted to talk to you again I would have called you the next day.")

                                                                              FB and Twitter benefit from the cross-promotion as they are based upon quantity of participants. CH benefits from the quality of the participation.

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                                                                                buttertart RE: linguafood Apr 1, 2011 02:23 PM

                                                                                @linguafood (!) - a. only too true and b. you crack me up.

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                                                                                  Samalicious RE: linguafood Apr 3, 2011 03:45 PM

                                                                                  Twitter? What the hell! The next thing you'll be telling me is Chowhound won't work on my Web TV!

                                                                              2. jfood RE: buttertart Apr 1, 2011 02:16 PM

                                                                                It means that engineering needs to re-prioritize the to-do list.This gets to the top of the list? Wow. At least they were considerate in the color, very easy to ignore.

                                                                                Anyone know how to turn it off on Explorer?

                                                                                HOLD ON....MAJOR LUCKY OR STUPID EVENT.

                                                                                I increased the size of my fill so the posts consume more of the screen and the annoying stuff on the left converted to a red

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                                                                                Now if engineering can make that tab grey it will really disappear

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                                                                                  nsxtasy RE: jfood Apr 1, 2011 03:28 PM

                                                                                  I'm on Explorer too. I haven't changed the size of anything and it appears only as a vertical SHARE tab as you described. If I mouse over it it expands, mouse away from it and goes back to being a thin tab.

                                                                                  If anyone has a way to turn it off entirely on Explorer, I'd love to hear it...

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                                                                                    rworange RE: nsxtasy Apr 5, 2011 10:27 AM

                                                                                    To share the direcection and spirit of this site lately .... +1

                                                                                2. Mr Taster RE: buttertart Apr 1, 2011 10:22 PM

                                                                                  I'd like to hear from the Chowteam on their reasons for adding this, and what they expect us to do with it.

                                                                                  Mr Taster

                                                                                  1. meatme RE: buttertart Apr 2, 2011 09:58 PM

                                                                                    Jacquilynne,

                                                                                    Does this mean that the moderators will no longer be deleting "+1" posts?

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                                                                                      im_nomad RE: meatme Apr 3, 2011 06:58 PM

                                                                                      I got the impression that this was supposed to replace that. If memory serves, there were a few people within that +1 thread discussion who requested someway to "like" a post (which this doesn't really do, but still )

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                                                                                        rworange RE: im_nomad Apr 5, 2011 10:28 AM

                                                                                        Yep, a handful that wanted this and tons who didn't.

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                                                                                          HillJ RE: rworange Apr 5, 2011 10:37 AM

                                                                                          Yes, I would consider 26 Tweets on a site of thousands pretty low bang for the tech buck.

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                                                                                            MGZ RE: HillJ Apr 5, 2011 11:14 AM

                                                                                            Ahhh, but that's not really the point. Fb and Twitter's presence is designed to get them more members. Those tallys are supposed to make non members feel like they're missing something big. If I click on any of them, I'm prompted to join.

                                                                                            It's true that Chow would also benefit if the relationship leads to greater numbers of participants as, it would seem, advertising prices could be increased. The discussions do not necessarily get better as the quality of the content is not dependent upon the quantity of comments. Often, it's quite the contrary.

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                                                                                              HillJ RE: MGZ Apr 5, 2011 11:32 AM

                                                                                              Hi MGZ, so far no word from CH Team regarding why the new SHARE tab and from the looks of things the CH community isn't welcoming or using the option readily. No sticky explaining anything about it...

                                                                                              Some decisions can cause communities to turn off or leave too. On CH you can't participate in OP's unless you become a registered member. Would a SHARE tab keep people visiting? The more CH becomes a social network inside a social community about food the more operational quirks and issues pop up...meanwhile the sidetracking of the entire site experience means less enjoyment overall.

                                                                                              FB, Twitter, YouTube, the list of social interaction and cross promotion for CH & CHOW is growing each month.

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                                                                                              donovt RE: HillJ Apr 5, 2011 06:36 PM

                                                                                              That's 26 tweets on this topic alone. I'm sure thousands of people haven't read this particular thread. I really don't have a strong opinion on this either way. Just figured I'd point out that just because individual threads arent tweeted a lot, doesnt mean that there aren't a lot of tweets going on.

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                                                                                                HillJ RE: donovt Apr 5, 2011 06:58 PM

                                                                                                I was referring just to the topic of Twitter within this specific thread. I assure you I won't be focused on following how many CH's are tweeting away. It's clearly a personal preference to participate.

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                                                                                                  Chris VR RE: donovt Apr 5, 2011 07:09 PM

                                                                                                  Actually, as I pointed out above, the number of tweets is very misleading, because pretty much all of them seem to be coming from an automated bot. Click on the number of tweets to see what I mean. It makes it pretty meaningless if this is a common thing on Twitter.

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                                                                                                    HillJ RE: Chris VR Apr 5, 2011 07:12 PM

                                                                                                    Doesn't the Tweet # stand for the # of x's this thread is shared? Beyond that, what the heck would be the point?

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                                                                                                      Chris VR RE: HillJ Apr 5, 2011 07:39 PM

                                                                                                      Yes,and if you click on that number, you can see who shared it and what they said.

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                                                                                                        HillJ RE: Chris VR Apr 5, 2011 07:56 PM

                                                                                                        Ha! A whole lotta nothing.

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                                                                                                          Mr Taster RE: HillJ Apr 5, 2011 08:36 PM

                                                                                                          Amen to that, HillJ.

                                                                                                          Mr Taster

                                                                                        2. hohokam RE: buttertart Apr 3, 2011 09:03 PM

                                                                                          I haven't used the Share function yet, but I can see doing so in the future.

                                                                                          The only way I can get the box to interfere with my view of a thread is to zoom in my display to point where the post text is large enough to read from 6 feet away. Under my usual viewing settings, the box doesn't bother me at all. Sure, if it were flickering or whirling or bouncing about like a Pong ball, it would be hard to ignore, but so far I'm able to filter it out by, you know, looking at the text of the posts I'm reading and writing.

                                                                                          Count me amount those who are baffled by the outcry.

                                                                                          1. onceadaylily RE: buttertart Apr 4, 2011 06:17 PM

                                                                                            I am reiterating my point, since CH hasn't bothered to address this. I don't care if the site is more readily shared or not. That isn't my issue. Share all you like. But it needn't be done in the space the layout has trained us to look toward, in such an aggressive way. It jiggles my scrolling nausea. This could easily be a feature that pops out, and then collapses into a much smaller tab, alerting the user of its availability, without casting a shadow over the posts, and so noticeably trailing along as one reads. Am I wrong, but didn't it used to do just that on Chow? If the feature were as it is now, but on the right, it wouldn't have the same annoyance factor, but still be readily accessible, and prominent.

                                                                                            My PC has just had it's sixth birthday. I really don't want to remind it of its age by installing yet more software.

                                                                                            1. maplesugar RE: buttertart Apr 4, 2011 09:16 PM

                                                                                              I don't know about everyone else or if this will help but thought it was worth mentioning - I noticed that if my browser window is maximized, the tweet/like/email/share tab is static - it doesn't move in and out when I mouse over it nor does it cover any text... but when I have the window anything smaller than maximized the red "share" text appears and the tab opens and closes when I mouse over it.

                                                                                              1. Midlife RE: buttertart Apr 5, 2011 10:31 AM

                                                                                                I don't really mind the tabs being there but I AM annoyed by the couple of extra seconds it takes my computer to load them on each topic page. I seriously doubt I'd use any of them but I do think I understand the site-pumping impact using them can have.

                                                                                                1. Politeness RE: buttertart Apr 23, 2011 11:16 AM

                                                                                                  For us, it is more than an annoyance. We have four different operating systems on four different computers in this location, and on only one of the four can one reply to messages on Chowhound, because the stupid share bug gets stuck in an endless "Loading ..." loop and "Loading ..." also appears at the top of the message that one wants to reply to. The programmers at Viacom/CBS have created the coding with spaghetti code (visible with the view source option) that will not allow the reply pane to load until the Facebook/Twitter code has COMPLETED loading, so the reply pane never appears.

                                                                                                  One suspects that budget cuts at Viacom/CBS have resulted in all of the competent programmers being laid off, and only incompetent ones remain. Similar problems have been observed from time to time at CBS Sportsline; we have not observed similar problems at other sites on the Web, and conclude that the Viacom/CBS programmers' extremely high level of incompetence probably is unique in all the world.

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                                                                                                    Midlife RE: Politeness Apr 23, 2011 11:50 AM

                                                                                                    You may well be right about the 'code writers' (I have noway of knowing). I just found your comments a bit ironic given your user name. ;o))

                                                                                                    I can see the surface of all that "loading" going on too (in McAfee Site Advisor), and it does slow me down enough that I posted here too. But the loop isn't "endless" for me. Seems to me these things vary greatly depending on ISP, browser, operating system, hardware, and other things of which I know nothing. At least that's the impression I get from reading user comments that span a rather wide variety of differing experiences with what seems to be the same issue.

                                                                                                    What little experience I have with site building taught me that it's not easy to build sites that provide the best experience for all levels of users at the same time. What's a bit confusing, though, is that you 'sound' as if your equipment is pretty 'current' state of the art. I'm looking forward to some responses to your post.

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