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OK I'll bite - what do the Twitter counts on threads mean?

New feature today - and what precisely does it mean? A thread has been tweeted about x number of times???

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  1. I find it extremely annoying!!! Floats with the page and I HATE it. Can you turn it off?

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    1. re: Quine

      You can block it with Adblock on Chrome

      1. re: MplsM ary

        Cool, how do I get to it, I use Chrome.

            1. re: Quine

              I love this ad blocker, so happy you advised me on it!
              Now I can't wait for that stupid floating "take survey" ball to appear! Evil laugh HA HA Ha!

              1. re: Quine

                You are welcome.

                I used to be a Firefox only gal. It's largely due to the all the Chow stuff I couldn't block with Adblock Plus on Firefox that I started using Chrome. I like this Adblock so much I might actually slide the developer a few bucks - which I've never done before. This ad blocker is just so slick and easily tunable.

                Disclaimer---
                I am in no way associated with or have ever had contact with the the developer.

                1. re: MplsM ary

                  I am also not in ANYWAY, geesh I found it from here! associated with chrome ad block bu I also donated.

                  It work Damn*d GREAT!

              2. re: Quine

                Oh yeah! It does work, and so simple, too.

                Mr Taster

          1. re: MplsM ary

            Any way to block it on Firefox? I hate it. Hate, hate, hate. Also? Hate.

            1. re: small h

              yeah, i'd love to know that as well. i have AdBlock enabled on Ffx but this darned thing is still there, and driving me NUTS...

              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                I've been rolling with the Chowhound punches for years now. The redesign didn't bother me much. I don't mind ads for cat litter. But this thing is REALLY annoying. It's like a gnat flying around in my peripheral vision. No, bigger than a gnat. A buzzard.

                1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                  ghg: if you use Chrome the ad block that was suggested to me (up thread) totally got rid of it and extremely easy to use.

                  1. re: Quine

                    thanks, i actually tried Chrome for a while when Ffx had an epic fail with one of their updates and it was running *excruciatingly* slowly...i wasn't crazy about Chrome, and then Chrome THAT slowed down so i switched over to Ffx 4, which is now zooming along...but this stupid thing is REALLY irritating.

                    1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                      Our mileages do vary, Chrome is sleek and fast for me, FF never really made me like it and I was coming from Opera, so I was half there. But I think up thread someone mentioned an ad block re FF? Not sure.

                      1. re: Quine

                        that was me :) i *have* Ad Block Plus installed and enabled for Ffx and the damn floating box is still there!

                        1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                          WOW, it so Totally cured it fo me here. I am thrilled it the product, since I watch alot of Hulu, I can control what is blocked where.

                    2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                      AdBlock no longer works for me on Firefox. I installed it mainly so I wouldn't have to look at things that move, but it stopped working.

                      1. re: Jay F

                        which Ffx version are you using? i just upgraded to 4.0 for Mac.

                2. re: Quine

                  Yes, for the love of all things holy, would you please turn it off????

                  1. re: MGZ

                    plus 1 to turn it off I don't have nor want twitter

                  2. It counts how often a thread has been tweeted. You want me to do that right now? >insert evil grin<

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                    1. re: linguafood

                      ah so being one of the largest food communities on the Net isn't enough we have to enhance our social networking stats thru FB, Twitter, the left side SHARE tab is growing....

                      1. re: HillJ

                        why, of course!! :-D

                        on the other hand, i was just asked about a dish - whether it was traditional or not, and had to email a friend who makes said dish. with the new thingee on the left hand side, i coulda just emailed the thread.

                        hate to be the lone voice, but a) it doesn't bother me and b) i find it convenient.

                        1. re: linguafood

                          c) it's not going away any time soon so share away!

                          1. re: linguafood

                            "had to e-mail a friend"

                            Come on, it's not like you had to actually call.

                            1. re: MGZ

                              ha!

                              i'm still laughing at this one :)

                              1. re: MGZ

                                no, i didn't have to actually call. i did have to actually send an email with that question, which i could have avoided by using the email function to the left.

                                1. re: linguafood

                                  I assure you, I understood your initial point. I'm sure that upon reflection you can see the ironic humor I offered in reply

                                  1. re: MGZ

                                    inbetween my first two cups of coffee, i can sometimes miss the irony. my bad '-)

                                    1. re: linguafood

                                      I don't mind it either, really. The email thing is rather fun.

                                      1. re: buttertart

                                        But sooooooo time-consuming and inconvenient. =)

                              2. re: linguafood

                                Chow already had an email the thread option. Geez, the last thing I need is people reposting my comments here on facebook.

                                1. re: Ruth Lafler

                                  There hasn't ever been anything to stop people from posting thread and post links to Facebook, Twitter, or any site where users generate content.

                                  1. re: hohokam

                                    No, but let's not encourage them! :-)

                                    1. re: hohokam

                                      This so true. I just Googled something and on page 2 there was my name, Gio CHOW, and a click away brought up all my postings from yesterday right up till a few minutes ago. When I clicked on my name I shot straight to my profile page which included the stuff usually hidden...

                            2. I was able to clear it in Firefox. You have to have the Element Hiding Helper add-on for Adblock Plus. You click on your little Adblock stopsign icon (upper right toolbar for me) then select "Select an element to hide" from the dropdown menu. Then use the cursor to outline the share-thingy with red (it's actually 5 or 6 elements so you have do do each piece separately until they're all gone). Then you get a popup menu and click the lower right button that says "add element hiding rule." Repeat as needed.

                              Chowhound has the most hideous message board software I know (posts aren't numbered or truly sequential, no mouseover for thread titles, etc), why do they keep making the browsing experience even more unpleasant? It's only the wonderful content provided by posters that makes it worth it, and some days even that isn't enough to make it worth visiting such a crappy interface.

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                              1. re: Kunegunde

                                @Kunegunde, i'm officially declaring you my CH hero of the week! thank you for the Ffx tips - i just added the Helper extension and deleted all the individual elements, and it worked. ahh, much better :)

                                1. re: Kunegunde

                                  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!

                                  1. re: Kunegunde

                                    You are the greatest! That thing was driving me mad...I appreciate you clear, simple directions - worked perfectly for my level (or lack) of tech ability!

                                      1. re: Kunegunde

                                        When CNET took over in 2006, they built new software from the ground up modeled somewhat after the old interface.

                                        http://replay.waybackmachine.org/2002...

                                        has never had a typical bbs interface, and it shouldn't. It has, however, generally had a relatively clear and clutter free design (Chow ads notwithstanding) and I totally agree that the Twits bar in the upper left is incredibly distracting. Chowhound is once again confusing its Chowhound audience (who are focused entirely on accurate, specific food information and are not afraid to read long posts about it) with the Chow crowd, who reflect a much more, ahem, modern and trendy demographic.

                                        Mr Taster

                                        1. re: Mr Taster

                                          >>> Chowhound is once again confusing its Chowhound audience (who are focused entirely on accurate, specific food information and are not afraid to read long posts about it) with the Chow crowd, who reflect a much more, ahem, modern and trendy demographic

                                          1. The first word in that sentence should be "Chow" and not "Chowhound". I am guessing no Chowhound moderator was involved in this design.

                                          2. As to the modern and trend demographic I guess I just don't understand why iphone, Blackberry and other such apps are non operative for the most part while the focus goes on these social networking bells and whisles. Even my teenage kids can't be torn away from their smart phone apps. Yet the apps that would appeal to the "modern and trendy" crowd get no love here..

                                          1. re: rworange

                                            Whoops, you're right... should have been CHOW, not Chowhound as you described.

                                            As for the non-stop march of technology, we all make value judgments. Being able to access Chowhound on-the-go was a total pipe dream back in 2003. Back then, all of us old timers were driving around with stacks of Chowhound printouts in our gloveboxes. (Remember those days?) So in that way, the modern smartphone truly is the natural evolutionary step for Chowhound, whose core mission is to get us out to new and interesting places with delicious food.

                                            Now what about this Twitter thing? Not really necessary to achieving this goal-- or at least certainly not such a natural companion as the smartphone was to the usefulness of Chowhound.

                                            This technology that came to known as "social networking" always rubbed me the wrong way. Do you remember how 10 years ago, the FaceSpaces and MyBooks of the time used to be the exclusive domain of high school kids and child molesters? Now Facebook is something your grandma would use. I was never interested in any of it, so I totally missed out on how this transition occurred. There was always something vaguely (or overtly) creepy about something so impersonal trying to convince me to make friends with it. Now that there's a good chance that your mom, aunt, uncle and friends are all TwitBooking, there's actually a somewhat legitimate reason to sign on, but I'm already conditioned against it. It's admittedly a hard and steadfast bias, and it does annoy my sister, for example, when I ask her to email me photos that she just blasted out to a thousand people with the stroke of a screen tap. Call me a luddite, if you must... I just think if my sister wants to share photos of my niece with me (instantly, mind you) that she can send her brother a personal note with an e-mail attachment. My values are such that something as imitate and personal as sharing joyous times with your child shouldn't be blasted out to 1,000 semi-anonymous strangers. And I've had to remind her that putting something on your facebook wall is not the digital equivalent of sitting on your sofa with a friend sharing family photos. It's the equivalent of printing 10,000 copies of your family photos and distributing them from an airplane over Manhattan. But it *feels* like the sofa thing.

                                            Eventually social networking evolved into a kind of "opt-in spam", where people who you only ever marginally knew were suddenly sending you things you really couldn't care less about. To my mind, I spent the last 15 years trying to *eliminate* spam from my inbox-- not inviting more in! So the whole thing always seemed rather absurd.

                                            So to summarize:
                                            Smartphone = Good, natural bedfellow and companion of Chowhound.
                                            TwitBook = Odd, awkward stepchild, not natural. Bad.

                                            Mr Taster

                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                              The funny thing is I use Twitter and Facebook all the time to communicate with chow-minded folks about food and to keep up with chowish happenings in my area.

                                              Sure, there are folks who feel the need to share the details of their physiological and emotional states every ten minutes ("Fatigue and Hunter Reports on the 8s"). But just as one can opt in to this sort of spamstorm of minutiae, one can opt out, either by applying easily implemented filters or by severing connections altogether.

                                              I'm curmudgeonly beyond my years, but I even I can see how folks might find value in the connection between this site and social networking sites.

                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                I'm not anti Twitter or Facebook. However, in terms of importance in attracting people to this site, it would seem the smart app should have a higher importance, but then again I don't make the decisions.

                                                I wouldn't care if it didn't introduce a ton of bugs and slow the site

                                                Lots of restaurants use Facebook as their website, so I get tons of info off that. As to restaurants and Twitter, it can have its place like for places with daily changing menus.

                                                I am inspired by this latest change to finally create my own Facebook page and sign up for Twitter ... to chat about each Chow installation. Bet I can get a lot of hits and "likes" with that.

                                                I'll use it as my sig line ... joking about the sig line, but not the Facebook page. It will give me a new hobby until the bugs are fixed.

                                          2. re: Kunegunde

                                            That thing has been bugging me since the moment I first saw it. Thanks for telling me how to get rid of it. It's gone.

                                            1. re: Kunegunde

                                              You can do this directly in Adblock Plus (without the Element Hiding Helper):

                                              1. Go to: "ABP" -> "Preferences" -> "Add Filter..."

                                              2. Add this filter rule:
                                              chowhound.chow.com###share_side_bar

                                              This removes all four slider elements in a single filter rule.

                                              You can also remove some of the other Facebook/Twitter/Email sharing clutter:

                                              1. This filter rule removes the widgets above the title in the original post in each thread:
                                              chowhound.chow.com###fb_post_widget

                                              2. This filter rule removes the "Connect with Chow" box in the side bar:
                                              chowhound.chow.com###connect_w_chow

                                              Et viola!

                                                1. re: Peripatetic

                                                  awesome! thank you, thank you, thank you :)

                                                  1. re: Peripatetic

                                                    Peripatetic, I think I'm in love with you.

                                                    Mr Taster

                                                    1. re: Peripatetic

                                                      I thought I loved you too but I did what I think is correct and it hasn't blocked the side bars. I downloaded AdBlockerPlus and created the filter rule you suggested. I can see it in the rules list and it is checked, but it doesn't work even after restart. Sorry to turn this into a learning experience but those tabs were driving me nuts with the several seconds they take to load.

                                                      1. re: Midlife

                                                        Midlife, are you using Firefox or Chrome?

                                                          1. re: Midlife

                                                            Hmm, not sure why it's not working for you. When looking at this thread, what URL do you see in the menu bar? Is it possible that ABP has been disabled for this page, or for Chowhound as a whole, or everywhere? Normally the ABP logo is white with black letters (rather than red with white letters) if it's been disabled.

                                                            1. re: Peripatetic

                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/775749

                                                              The logo is red with white letters

                                                              Hope the screen pic is big enough to see.

                                                               
                                                                1. re: odkaty

                                                                  How about you guys email this thread to each other and discuss all following technical details there... oh wait, you HATE that function '-D

                                                                  1. re: linguafood

                                                                    > How about you guys email this thread to each other

                                                                    The "email function" isn't a private messaging function, just a mechanism to facilitate forwarding content off-site. Unless something has changed recently, CH doesn't have any mechanism for private messaging.

                                                                    1. re: linguafood

                                                                      linguafood........ I don't hate the function........... I don't like the time it takes to load which, in my case, seems to hold up my ability to scroll down the topic page. ;O> snort

                                                                      1. re: Midlife

                                                                        oh, that's a bummer. that would bother me, too. fwiw, i use safari on a macbook and have NONE such problems.... not sure if that's a function of the computer or the browser.

                                                                    2. re: Midlife

                                                                      > Hope the screen pic is big enough to see.

                                                                      Hmm, it's about the size of a postage stamp on my monitor. :(

                                                                      Maybe you have a Flickr/Picasa/etc. website you can use?

                                                              1. re: Midlife

                                                                @Midlife, try the fix Kunegunde suggested above:
                                                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7757...

                                                                it's a bit more tedious, but it worked for me when i noticed that some of the elements i tried to hide using Periatetic's suggestion actually reappeared.

                                                                1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                  That's strange, they definitely haven't reappeared for me.

                                                                  I made one refinement that might have an effect: I changed the filters from:

                                                                  chowhound.chow.com###share_side_bar
                                                                  chowhound.chow.com###fb_post_widget
                                                                  chowhound.chow.com###connect_w_chow

                                                                  to

                                                                  chow.com###share_side_bar
                                                                  chow.com###fb_post_widget
                                                                  chow.com###connect_w_chow

                                                                  That might help.

                                                                  1. re: Peripatetic

                                                                    actually i took care of it all with the element hiding extension. it was strange, because some of them reappeared and some didn't...but i suspect the adjustment you made probably would have done the trick.

                                                                    thanks for all your help!

                                                                    1. re: Peripatetic

                                                                      Took out the "h-o-u-n-d", hit enter>apply, and all the tabs disappeared immediately. Didn't even need to restart. THANK YOU !!!!!!!!

                                                                      1. re: Midlife

                                                                        Great!

                                                                        Yes, I noticed that under some circumstances CH navigates to other subdomains of chow.com besides chowhound.chow.com. I didn't really work out when and where, but using chow.com in the filters seems to pretty much cover it.

                                                                2. re: Peripatetic

                                                                  I say we all chip in and buy Peri a gift certificate or something. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

                                                                  1. re: MarlboroMan

                                                                    Your expressions of appreciation are reward enough. Just glad I could help. :)

                                                                    Don't forget Kunegunde, who had the original idea!

                                                                3. re: Kunegunde

                                                                  @Kunegunde all posts are numbered. If you click permalink on any of the posts you'll see the link in your browser window has a few more digits tacked on the end.

                                                                  Permalink (and I didn't realize this right away when I joined) also allows you to link directly to the particular post in a thread for example: someone is asking for a recipe for apple pie, you remember reading that goodhealthgourmet posted such a recipe in a one of the super long "What are you baking these days?" threads and it was fabulous, you can cut & paste the permalink in your reply and whoever clicks on the link will be directed not just to the Baking thread but straight to goodhealthgourmet's post.

                                                                  1. re: maplesugar

                                                                    Maple, that's good to know and very useful. I was thinking of really basic numbering for skimming, like in one corner each post gets numbered 1,2,3 etc as they are made. Since they don't do true sequential posting and allow intermediate replies, I guess that doesn't work.

                                                                    And to Peripatetic, thank you for your much more elegant solution. Your way means it doesn't get downloaded in the first place, the way I posted just hides it after downloading. Any tips in general at using lines of code to Adblock instead of Element Hiding? Unless someone like you gives me the line, I'm pretty limited to right-clicking to see if Adblock registers on an image through that menu, and often it doesn't.

                                                                    1. re: Kunegunde

                                                                      > Any tips in general at using lines of code to Adblock instead of Element Hiding?

                                                                      I used Mozilla's DOM (Document Object Model) Inspector to work out what were the highest-level expendable elements:

                                                                      https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fire...

                                                                      However DOM Inspector may be tricky for the uninitiated.

                                                                      Your tip about the Element Hiding Helper was very helpful. I used both add-ons in combination with one another to come up with the above solution.

                                                                4. I've been peeking into site talk today, to see if this was a problem for anyone else before I mentioned it . . . because I thought that such boxes popped in and then just slid away after a few moments. I wanted to make certain it wasn't just a random glitch before I voiced annoyance. Because it is annoying.

                                                                  Does it have to be exactly where I cast my eyes if I have even remotely good posture? Must I slouch? I'm thirty-seven; if I don't stop slouching now, it will be too late. My mother will be right. I will be humped over for all eternity.

                                                                  Can't the chatterbox be placed to the right, with the ads, and not threatening to overlap the posts themselves? The format on CH has led us to cast out eyes to the left for the posts, and to the right for . . . everything else. Why can't this follow that mold?

                                                                  1. What is this stupid share button, and why won't it leave me alone???? I hate it!!