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itryalot Mar 30, 2011 04:29 PM

plants for my garden. Like Tuscan kale, specialty lettuces, chards, etc/

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  1. jayt90 RE: itryalot Mar 30, 2011 05:41 PM

    Highland Farms usually has a display of imported Italian garden seeds, tho' I didn't see them last week.

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    1. Kagemusha RE: itryalot Mar 31, 2011 07:30 AM

      Rarely available in any great variety as plants(way too early) since they're grown from seed. I usually get mine from Italian bakeries(!?)around Mississauga. Like jayt90 said, Highland Farms carries a good seed selection. Starting tomatoes and perennials in the basement grow-op this weekend.

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        albanis RE: Kagemusha Mar 31, 2011 11:02 AM

        I get some from Diana Grocery on St. Clair. They have cardoon seeds (cardone) and a variety of radicchios, nice stuff. They close early though.

        1299 St Clair Ave W is the address, west of Dufferin.

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      2. prima RE: itryalot Mar 31, 2011 12:50 PM

        I buy most of my plants at the garden centre behind Lady York on Dufferin. Nice selection of good quality plants, and reasonable prices.
        I'll also be visiting Bill's Garden Centre on Pape this spring. If you're willing to travel a little beyond the GTA, Richter's carries pretty much everything. You can also buy their plants online. http://www.richters.com/show.cgi?page...
        I like the selection of seeds at Sheridan Nurseries, too. Found some baby corn seeds, as well as some unusual varieties of okra. Sheridan also has some seeds for Italian varieties of greens, beans, etc.
        This thread might have some other ideas for you: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/621554
        After losing some tomatoes and peppers to a freeze the last week of May last year, I won't be planting much until June 1st.

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          taterbrandy RE: itryalot Mar 31, 2011 01:29 PM

          Fortino's at Lawrence Square has a rack of Italian seed varieties on display.

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            itryalot RE: itryalot Apr 2, 2011 06:05 AM

            Any place I can buy plants not the seeds? I just don't have time to start them.

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              petek RE: itryalot Apr 2, 2011 06:17 AM

              Sorry but I have to ask what does ISO mean?

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                Kagemusha RE: petek Apr 2, 2011 07:45 AM

                In search of...

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                  petek RE: Kagemusha Apr 2, 2011 08:04 AM

                  Thanks Kage. i don't know why I couldn't figure that one out. :)

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                Kagemusha RE: itryalot Apr 2, 2011 07:55 AM

                As already mentioned, these usually aren't sold as plants. You might as well visit a good produce dept. Anything planted up and sold is basically a one-shot affair; left in the ground, lettuces "bolt" and reach maturity. They're not like tomato plants.It's too early to start them now. Get some seeds, get a bed ready, and sow sequentially to keep a steady supply during the summer. That's how it works.If you can't do that, then just buy what's available in the market.

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                  prima RE: itryalot Apr 2, 2011 08:43 AM

                  Most gardeners without a greenhouse don't plant "plants" until Victoria Day or later, because ON still gets frost until late May (which will kill young plants), so most garden centres don't sell plants until May.

                  All the places mentioned in this thread sell plants, as do most garden centres run by Sears, Zellers, Loblaw, Metro in the 'burbs, etc. Quite a few of the Korean or Chinese-run produce stores on Yonge St, College, Avenue Rd, not sure where else, will also be selling vegetable plants in May and June, but I've had my best luck with plants bought from the Lady York grocery store's garden centre.

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                    Kagemusha RE: prima Apr 2, 2011 09:12 AM

                    Right but the plants in question rarely, if ever, show up for the reasons I sketched out. These aren't really that hard to grow. Just don't expect the usual plug-n-play Victoria Day thing for lettuces, etc. You have to sow them continuously to keep the supply of greens coming during the summer, OK?

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                      prima RE: Kagemusha Apr 2, 2011 09:24 AM

                      Kagemusha, maybe it wasn't clear, but I was trying to respond to itryalot, not your post. itryalot's question of "any place i can buy plants but not seeds" made me think that itryalot might be talking about plants in general, not specifically Italian greens, regardless of the OP's subject line.

                      Didn't have a problem with anything you wrote, and wasn't trying to criticize in any way.

                      Thanks for your pro bono gardening advice, but I already know how to grow my greens, Italian or not. ;-)

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                      jayt90 RE: prima Apr 2, 2011 04:55 PM

                      Victoria day planting is a fallacy. The last frost date in Toronto is May 10. Marjoie Harris says it is May 9.

                      Prima, as you mention, Lady York may have Italian type plants, as well as many other garden centers in the Italian or Portuguese areas of Toronto. Dufferin Mall is another place to consider.

                      But these are not Italian plants: they are grown from Canadian, American, or UK seeds, plus other sources.
                      I don't know know if the OP wants to stray this far from the Italian seed source, at Highland Farms, but that is an authentic source.

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                      850 Ellesmere Rd, Toronto, ON M1P, CA

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                        prima RE: jayt90 Apr 2, 2011 08:45 PM

                        I should clarify that although I buy my Italian-style Cdn plants at Lady York, I plant them outside the GTA, and the last frost date is closer to Victoria Day. I've lost plants to frost as late as May 27th. People with gardens in TO are lucky to have an earlier start date!

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                    itryalot RE: itryalot Apr 17, 2011 06:47 PM

                    Not meaning to cause any controversy, here are more details:
                    ~italian veggies is what I was looking for (cavolo nero, specialized tomatoes, onions fiorentina, francese garlic, firarele peppers, etc)
                    ~seeds (I can get them from Italy online)
                    ~I get the seeding lettuce thing, I am looking for actual vegetables to put straight into the ground.

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                      Kagemusha RE: itryalot Apr 18, 2011 05:09 AM

                      With respect, you've already got a good run-down of what's available where and when. The rest is up to you to track 'em down. Garden centres are just beginning to set up shop now. I do suspect you'll have some trouble tracking specific varieties, though you might find someone who raises their own from Italian seeds--something you should consider for future plantings.

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                        itryalot RE: Kagemusha Apr 18, 2011 05:38 PM

                        Will do; no disrespect. I have a list and have someone in the area on the lookout.

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