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racsanfran Mar 27, 2011 07:16 AM

We're visiting Miami from Ottawa April 3-7 staying at the Shelborne on Collins in SOBE.

Would like to make some reservations since it is a special trip for us. Seafood, interesting Mexican or Cuban, small plates, sushi, southern bbq, recs for lunches and dinners with some scene but interesting food and quality are main criteria.

We'd also like one rec near the New World Symphony Building as we're taking a tour on Tuesday evening and also willing to cab to destination restaurants if there is a must do not immediately nearby the hotel or too far to walk.

Here's the mix in no particular order or lunch vs dinner designation..

Would welcome suggestions to narrow down to get best selection and variety. Price not really an issues but we would like to get some good cheaper eats too and possibly hit a food truck, following them on twitter but not certain where to find them vis a vis our location or whether worth the effort.

Sustain
Casa Tua
Cecconi (Soho House)
Joe’s Stone Crab
Quattro (Lincoln Road)
SRA Martinez, Sugarcane,Yakko San, NAOE, Hiros (sushi)
Red Light (for the bbq shrimp)
Beuna Vista Bistro
Rosinella, Spris, Ice Box, and Tiramesu.

Thanks, RuthAnne

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    LargeLife Mar 27, 2011 09:22 AM

    You have some very solid picks on that list! Casa Tua is amazing and a trip to Miami Beach without dining on stone crabs at Joe's is something that just isn't done! Forget about a southern BBQ outing in South Florida as there are places but they're wildly inconsistent!

    If you hit Casa Tua, Joe's, Sra. Martinez and perhaps to mainland Cuban institution like Versailles you've done very well. Love Sardinia too!

    EMac66
    Ft. Pierce, FL

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    Sra. Martinez
    4000 NE 2nd Ave., Miami, FL 33137

    Casa Tua
    1700 James Avenue, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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      tpigeon Mar 27, 2011 11:50 AM

      Some of the places you chose are pretty far by cab (BVB, Red Light, sustain, sra martinez, sugarcane are $50-60 round trip cab rides, plus you will have some difficulty finding a cab ride back -- you can always have them call -- this would be highly recommended in BVB and Red Light's case as you don't want to be strolling around that neighborhood looking for a cab)

      NAOE and Yakko San are very far by cab as is Hiros (which is not worth it). You really need to plan for cabs at those places and the ride will probably end up being around $80 round trip.

      I would remove the following from your list
      Casa Tua - unless ambiance trumps food and value
      Cecconi - see above
      Quattro - see above

      Instead of these, I would do Scarpetta, Osteria Del Teatro and Sardinia

      Hiros is absolutley not worth it, especially since you are taking a cab. It is just an ok sushi joint.

      Ice Box is inconsistent - I would do Books & Books -- you can get cakes at icebox.

      Rosinella, Spris and Tiramesu are nothing special. I would much rather eat at any number of other places such as, shake shack, burger & beer joint, joe allen, clarkes and miss saigon.

      For the not price sensitive, Zuma has some very good food and is in a great space. DB Bistro is also very good (probably better than Zuma) but I don't like the space nearly as much. If I were to choose one, I would go to Zuma. They are both in hotels so cabs back should be pretty easy.

      Red Light - the bbq shrimp may be the best thing on the menu but it is certainly not the only thing to eat there. This place is excellent, maddening, but excellent.

      If you have to do cuban, I would just do Puerto Sagua on the beach. I would not bother going across the bay by cab.

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      Osteria Del Teatro
      1443 Washington Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

      Rosinella
      525 Lincoln Rd, Miami Beach, FL 33139

      Red Light
      7700 Biscayne Blvd, Miami, FL 33138

      NAOE
      175 Sunny Isles Boulevard, Sunny Isles Beach, FL 33160

      Casa Tua
      1700 James Avenue, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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      1. re: tpigeon
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        racsanfran Mar 27, 2011 12:42 PM

        Thanks very much for tips on taxis, those costs to cut into the dining. We booked into Sardinia for one of the dinners based on the two recommended. So, Red Light or Zuma...worth the trip from our location, if so which would you pick? Again, very helpful info.

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        Red Light
        7700 Biscayne Blvd, Miami, FL 33138

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          tpigeon Mar 27, 2011 02:09 PM

          Red light has better food in my opinion but I would go with zuma in your case as I think it is going to be much easier for you to get back and zuma has a really nice space where red light is not so great.

          1. re: tpigeon
            Blind Mind Mar 27, 2011 05:41 PM

            Id do Michael's Genuine Food & Drink over all you have listed. It'll be a $40-50 cab round trip but it's the best spot in Miami and you will have a great meal and time.

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              racsanfran Mar 28, 2011 03:54 PM

              Thank tpigeon. Zuma sounds like the contender for Japanese. We came across Ola in the Sanctuary Hotel, very close by our hotel also. Any comment on it? No prices posted

              Emailed Sardinia, there is no online reservation, no word back, suspect closed Monday maybe.

              Susabella, good suggestion on Spiga. So...Zuma and Spiga or Sardinia...anyone to offer up a pick for our 3 and 4 nights, one of each a higher end and a mid ground. Puerto Sagua is in the mix. By all accounts cabs seem really expensive, I'd rather eat, drink and tip than pay cabs. Thanks. RA

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              Puerto Sagua Restaurant
              700 Collins Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

              Spiga
              1228 Collins Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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                tpigeon Mar 28, 2011 04:05 PM

                Sardinia is not closed on monday. I'd take sardinia over spiga. Puerto sagua is good but there are other cheap eats I would do instead if you are looking for food. I have posted these a few times recently. Otentic for one.

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                  tpigeon Mar 28, 2011 07:45 PM

                  I meant if you are looking for the best meal as opposed ambiance, etc....

                2. re: racsanfran
                  Blind Mind Mar 28, 2011 11:04 PM

                  If your concerned about cabs, Zuma (and anything on the mainland for that matter) is also going to be $40 round trip from your hotel, easy. Sounds like you want to stay on South Beach to avoid cabs. If that is the case, I definitely recommend checking out Altamare on the west side of Lincoln Road. It's a great date spot and the food is very good. Pricing is also reasonable and it has a nice wine selection. If you decide to go to the mainland, Michael's Genuine is the spot.

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                    tpigeon Mar 29, 2011 10:16 AM

                    Good point Blind Mind. To make it even worse, if there is an event in the AA arena or bayfront park a cab ride would be even more expensive to zuma than to the design district. It will take 20 minutes just to get past the event.

                    I'll second the alta mare rec as well.

                  2. re: racsanfran
                    Frodnesor Mar 30, 2011 06:04 AM

                    You can book Sardinia online through OpenTable. You can also use the phone - I find many restaurants' responses to emails are inconsistent.

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              susabella Mar 27, 2011 08:33 PM

              I think Spiga on Collins in South Beach is lovely. The restaurant both inside and outside is charming (I love the floor lamps outside, such romantic lighting!), the service is friendly and prompt and the food is delicious. Try the Crab Ravioli. Also the simply grilled Bronzini over spinach with artichokes is perfect. Although they recommend the ricotta cheesecake for dessert, I think their tiramisu is the best I've had in all of South Beach's Italian restaurants, and trust me, I've tried them all! I also think the location is perfect for walking around Ocean Drive in the evening after a great dinner. I've been to Casa Tua, which is very nice as well, but Spiga, I think edges it out for location, atmosphere, menu and service. Joe's is best for lunch, get the stone crabs and the grilled tomatoes with the cheese and spinach on top, perfect lunch! Scarpetta is also worth a visit, the Fontainbleau is a fun place to have drinks before or after. Osteria del Teatro is just ok, they won't make half orders of pastas for a first course, which is a shame because the full order is just too much, even to share as a first. Sardinia is also good, but mostly for the pastas, thats where they shine. Location is not as good as Spiga.

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              Casa Tua
              1700 James Avenue, Miami Beach, FL 33139

              South Beach Cafe
              121 5th St, Miami Beach, FL 33139

              Spiga
              1228 Collins Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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                morganeats Mar 29, 2011 12:22 PM

                I think there Sardinia is def not the best italian food options on the beach. Casa Tua is delicious as is Osteria del Teatro and ive heard great things about Il Gabbiano. I also happen to think the pasta at tiramesu is pretty good.

                I recently took some new york friends to puerto sagua because we were too lazy to leave the beach to go to versailles and frankly i was embarrassed at the quality of the food and service. Id only go back to pick up some croquettas (not for a meal).

                I have never been but heard good things about both Ola and D.Rodriguez for cuban (alittle higher end but probably way better food).

                Red light is good but it doesnt even compare to Zuma... Zuma is better in every respect in my opinion, decor, location, service, and food. Also, I wouldnt be so quick to send non-locals to the red light neighborhood (esp by cab) ... while i dont necessarily think anything would happen to you, its not exactly a place to walk around or catch a cab.

                If you are going to venture off the beach, I think it makes more sense and would generally be more fun to go into the Design District where you could see some shops and other people walking around. Sra Martinez and Michaels are on a nice little street in the design district where you could take a small walk, windowshop, etc.
                OR
                Sugarcane is really yummy in the midtown area. Small plates. The price can add up but I have had GREAT food there.

                DB bistro is one of the best meals ive ever had in miami, they have a great pompano dish. But I agree that the decor and ambiance is sort of meh.

                Beer and Burger is really good for a casual lunch or dinner.

                There have been mixed reviews on Pubbelly, which is a pork inspired gastro pub on the beach. I had a pretty good meal there and have tried to go back but they get too crowded on weekend nights. You could get small plates and its casual (not cheap, but not expensive if you keep it under control).

                Smith and Wollenski has a beautiful location right on the water at the port. Its a great spot to grab a couple of drinks bc its in south point park and you could take a nice walk and hang out in a fun environment.

                I also think meat market on lincoln road is a good dinner option. Fun ambiance and yummy food.... can walk to new world symphony.
                Not many people run to Solea but ive had 2 amazing meals there (in the W hotel)... i think the paella is awesome (not mexican or cuban... but spanish... sort of close :)

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                Sra Martinez
                4000 NE 2nd Ave, Miami, FL

                Casa Tua
                1700 James Avenue, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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                1. re: morganeats
                  Blind Mind Mar 29, 2011 03:36 PM

                  I forgot about Meat Market. That's a great spot too.

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                  Meat Market
                  915 Lincoln road, Miami Beach, FL 33139

                  1. re: morganeats
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                    racsanfran Mar 30, 2011 08:20 AM

                    Thanks Morganeats. Meat Market may be perfect for location and food following our Tuesday tour.

                    Any thoughts on Ola? Thanks.

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                    Meat Market
                    915 Lincoln road, Miami Beach, FL 33139

                    1. re: racsanfran
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                      mikek Mar 30, 2011 11:14 AM

                      The menu at Ola read great, we loved our appetizers, the entrees were good but not great. To be honest, nothing was too memorable from the meal.

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                        nfcloo Apr 5, 2011 07:29 AM

                        Ola is solid.

                        Started off with a great staff, who agreed to split bottles of wines for us--because it made more sense to pair with both white & red, and we didn't to do 2 bottles (2 of us). We tried 3-5 appetizers--ceviche, chicharron and short rib empanada stood out. But the highlight, without question, was the duck fat infused Raspado de Pato, eclipsed the Lamb Loin which was also cooked very properly.

                        Deconstructed Key Lime finished out the meal for me, and the Flan for my guest. Deconstruction may run the risk of gimmick, but in this case, it worked (and with a glass of Moscato).

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                        Ola Miami
                        1745 James Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

                        1. re: nfcloo
                          Frodnesor Apr 5, 2011 08:36 AM

                          The raspado de pato is an awesome dish. Haven't been to Ola in a long time, but that brings back fond memories. Seared duck breast, some tart tomatillo, served over a sort of fried rice with crispy edges, studded with shredded duck leg, raisins, edamame, pine nuts. Thanks for the reminder.

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                      nfcloo Apr 5, 2011 07:35 AM

                      Puerto Sagua is great for cheap eats... it's too bad David's went through all the re-modeling (and price change). I miss the old counter (and the previous menu too). Pay attention to the daily special, occasionally, it will feature off-the-menu items.

                      As for fine(r) dining, I would add Escopazzo to your list. I've going to SoBe for probably 15yrs now and meals never disappoint. Asparagus flan is a must-try and once, Espresso Pork Tenderloin was perfection in your mouth. Seafood is always fresh/rotated and does not disappoint.

                      Have had many birthdays/special occasions and the restaurant always accommodate.

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                      Puerto Sagua Restaurant
                      700 Collins Ave, Miami Beach, FL 33139

                      Escopazzo Restaurant
                      1311 Washington Avenue, Miami Beach, FL 33139

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