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Downtown Manhattan next Wed night...need top notch recommendation.

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pktaske Mar 16, 2011 10:37 AM

We have a vendor coming in and taking us out on the 23rd.He says pick the best place we can find. Fancy, classy, simple or just plain grubby or dirty as long as it's 'the best' (ie-food)! Take price out of the equation. I would like to omit classic steakhouses and anything Asian as that seems to be the only places I've been to in New York the last two years. Price is a non-issue and I'd also like to restrict this to downtown Manhattan. Seafood and Steak Tartare are my fav's but I digress...

I do promise the group an extensive review on Thursday!

Thanks again...PK

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  1. loratliff RE: pktaske Mar 16, 2011 10:40 AM

    What is downtown to you? Below 34th Street? Below 14th Street? Below the Park?

    The "best" places are going to be tough to get reservations at with just a week of lead time.

    1. sgordon RE: pktaske Mar 16, 2011 11:49 AM

      If you can get a table at Eleven Madison Park, and that's downtown enough, go for it.

      Further South... Del Posto, WD-50, Bouley, Corton, Scarpetta, Blue HIll... I could sit here all day listing restaurants. All have their pros and cons. Are you a big group? How many people? That makes a big difference.

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      WD-50
      50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

      Eleven Madison Park
      11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

      Blue Hill
      75 Washington Place, New York, NY 10011

      Del Posto
      85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

      Scarpetta
      355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

      Corton
      239 West Broadway, New York, NY 10013

      Bouley
      163 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

      1. princeofpork RE: pktaske Mar 16, 2011 12:08 PM

        Just had a vendor take us to Bouley for lunch and Scarpetta for dinner in the same day. best eating day of my life. They were both incredible but completely different atmospheres.

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        Scarpetta
        355 West 14th Street, New York, NY 10014

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          pktaske RE: pktaske Mar 18, 2011 08:39 AM

          3 people...maybe four. Small group.

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            Nancy S. RE: pktaske Mar 18, 2011 10:24 AM

            I would start calling to see where you can get a table -- that will limit the possibilities significantly.

          2. porker RE: pktaske Mar 18, 2011 10:39 AM

            Does sushi fall into your Asian category?
            In similar circumstances, I'd choose Masa...

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            Masa
            10 Columbus Cir, New York, NY 10019

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              Hey19 RE: pktaske Mar 18, 2011 11:43 AM

              If you are fixed on fish Milos and Marea are pretty amazing, Bouley is amazing, kind of fancy though, so not sure if you want that. A friend and I were recently talking, its weird, most of the serious fish spots are in the 50s, much fewer downtown.

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              Milos
              125 West 55th Street, New York, NY 10019

              Marea
              240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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                Simon RE: pktaske Mar 19, 2011 12:57 PM

                this sounds like a night for Gotham Bar and Grill...

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                Gotham Bar and Grill
                12 East 12th Street, New York, NY 10003

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                  pktaske RE: pktaske Mar 21, 2011 10:29 AM

                  Del Posto it is.

                  My fellow co-worker is worried that he'll walk out hungry though. I'd hate to think that for $130/pp you would but ...

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                  Del Posto
                  85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

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                    sgordon RE: pktaske Mar 21, 2011 11:58 AM

                    Not a chance you'll leave hungry. With all the amuses, pre-desserts, mignardaises, bread service (which is so good it's practically a course on its own) you'll wind up having six or seven courses... Some small, sure, but they add up.

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                    Upperwestsider RE: pktaske Mar 21, 2011 05:09 PM

                    If you really mean DOWNtown, look into SHO Shaun Hergatt (www.shoshaunhergatt.com). Easily the best restaurant in the Wall Street area. Top shelf all the way from service to inventive, truly excellent Asian influenced French food. Not cheap. Please let us all know what you decide to do and how it works out.

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                    SHO Shaun Hergatt
                    40 Broad St, New York, NY 10004

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                      pktaske RE: pktaske Mar 28, 2011 02:15 PM

                      OK..here is my promised review of Del Posto. I'll keep it short, sweet and stream-of-consciousness….arrived almost an hour before 6pm reservation…setting was grand without being overdone…slummed at the bar for about 45 minutes eating (garlic infused?) chips and other unrecognizable bar snacks...interesting watching them dress the troops for the night ahead…at our table before 6, we decided on the 5 course…initial offering was a wonderful shot of capon consume tethered with a savory, crunchy tidbit whose texture can best be described as a Rocher Hazlenut candy and tasting like a well-aged library book. The mortadella stuffed puff pastry reminded me most of a high quality baloney mash…not my thing…antipasti was an amazingly tender and creamy calamari along with a tartare which was high in flavour but I found the texture a little too high in egg compared to others that I've had…spaghetti with dungess/jalepeno was a nice spark to the meal but it was the garganelli/meat sauce that really had it's way with me…simply delicious..hearty without being heavy…unfortunately, either portion was no more than a couple mouthfuls, but maybe that comes with the territory when taking sup in these lofty peaks…our last dishes were the bouillabaisse and lamb…addition of the broth after the seafood was plated was a nice touch and required a call for a third round of bread for sop…lamb was bountiful in flavor but a much smaller portion than even I expected. Only dessert of note was the ice cream that accompanied my ricotta petit four…not much bigger than a melon ball but as silky a frozen confection that I've ever had.


                      All that above being said, I will freely admit that 3 guys 6'+/200 lbs each that are more acclimated to a night out at Keens or Peter Lugers might not be giving Del Posto a fair shake…and I know that you don’t go to a chess match expecting a hockey game. What saved us from walking away hungry vs a hair under satisfied was the bread service, which was wholly utilized to clean up most plates after each offering. For it's niche, I can only imagine DP at least meets if not exceeds it's intended goal. Seeing various posts about the food quality and the such being sub-par is, to me, silly. Each dish felt and tasted that it came across exactly as it was intended to be. And if I had the option to go back to the bar and enjoy the calamari followed by a healthy portion of the Bolognese, I'd be a once a month regular….if it were closer!

                      Note price was $95 pp which is $20 lower than what's listed on the website.

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                      Del Posto
                      85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

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                        sgordon RE: pktaske Mar 29, 2011 08:01 AM

                        So they've raised the price to $115? Huh. I've always thought it was a decent enough deal at $95 (and I'm 6'+, 200# myself) but at $115 I think the least they could do is do away with the silly "Bis" course - the "two tastes of pasta to share" - and just let each person select a full primi. I mean, if they're going to raise the price by nearly the cost of an a la carte primi course, there should be some return on that. Besides, the whole "Bis" thing was kind of stupid, anyway. EMP gives you four normal courses for $125 and doesn't demand you select special "shared" tiny courses....

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                          howdini RE: pktaske Jun 14, 2011 10:33 AM

                          "...a Rocher Hazlenut candy and tasting like a well-aged library book."

                          Absolutely brilliant. I need to read more of you.

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