Who's familiar with 'old' San Diego restaurants?
Howdy!
SF post got me thinking about old restaurants in SD and wondering which ones are still around?
Albie's Beef Inn in Mission Valley comes to mind and Bully's East..and the beloved Bali Hai..
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re: cristina
Yes, Nicolosi's is an institution as well...Last I saw off of Waring Rd. Standout for me was the "relish tray" (or whatever they called it) they put out with everything. The cheese slices, pepperoncini, and what not...
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Two long-gone greats that I remember fondly are Olinda's (started near Morena, then moved over by Old Town) and Don Jose's on El Cajon Blvd. At Don Jose I remember the "community" salsa vat on the table. Never got sick. That wouldn't fly today...
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I remember Azteca on El Cajon Boulevard, Casa Blanca in Old Town, Our Perry's Pizza (the first square pan pizza), and Leonardo's on El Cajon Blvd and 70th. I recall the wonderful aroma of authentic Italian food at Leonardo's. Other favorites include Pernicano's, Anthony's, Hamburger House, and Consuelo's in La Mesa with their delicious quesadilla appetizer. When I was in high school at Crawford we used to walk to Azteca for the special '10 rolled tacos for $1'. Those were the days. Today I live in Oregon and even though northwest cuisine is scrumptious I still miss the places I ate as a child and teenager. And don't forget DiMille' s Pizza and the flying saucer at El Juan's in National City.
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re: kshaleus
- DeMille's is still open and doing well.
- Azteca was across the street from the Aspen Mine Company, spent many an evening there after a night of drinking.
- Leonardos lasted a good long time.
- Our Perry's Pizza, that was some pretty good pizza
- We went to the Casa Blanca on La Mesa Blvd. We loved that complimentary app - the crispy flour tortilla with melted cheese - I've managed to recreate a pretty decent version of it. Nothin' fancy, but it is a taste of childhood, which makes it so good :-)
- There are 3 Anthony's left, the one in La Mesa is the most consistent and even it isn't so great any more.
- There is 1 Pernicano's left and old George Pernicano still refuses to give up his 3% ownership of the Chargers. His Casa di Baffi on 6th between University and Robinson is still there, still closed and still an eyesore.
Thanks for the walk down memory lane :-)
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re: DiningDiva
Aspen Mine Company...lots of drinking..toga parties..they served food didn't they?
Casa Blanca..was that the one by Drew Ford at the end of LM blvd..that cheese crisp was awesome..
Pernicano's in Hillcrest...when is George going to clean up that hot mess in Hillcrest..that just so wrong!
Aetna Pizza is still there and still really good..had lunch with Stephen Bishop at that Mex restaurant on El Cajon blvd by Crawford HS..what was the name of that place?-
re: Beach Chick
I think AMC served food, but I wouldn't know about that ;-). I usually only made it into the bar (and their bartenders were not real good about remembering to ask for ID ;-D)
Casa Blanca was on LM Blvd. between Uni and El Cajon on the east side of the street. I can still drive to but I couldn't, if my life depended on it, tell you what is there now. I don't think the building is a restaurant any more.
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re: DiningDiva
Aspen Mine Co. was mostly a steak place (at least that's mostly what I remember ordering there). Decent steaks. Though they didn't have to be that great after a couple of Zombies... Don't remember any Toga Parties, but those were probably right after "Animal House" came out (1978) and that was right around the time I stopped going regularly.
I was wondering if by "Hamburger House" the OP meant "Hamburger Hamlet" which was in front of Hoover High on ECB.
I think George Pernicano is still lucid enough that his family can't sell off that property and George doesn't want to let go of it for less than an absurd amount (about 3x what it's worth). That was what I'd heard from a friend who made a serious inquiry about two or three years ago.
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I haven't waded through all of the posts to see whether someone has already posted this, so just in case, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&...
If you've never been there, The Chicken Pie Shop is a very old San Diego tradition. But I don't think the full chicken pie dinner is still $1.10 any more. But I'm pretty sure it's still good!
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re: Caroline1
Ah yes, the Chicken Pie Shop. I've been there once, and ordered the chicken pie (of course), and found it to be fairly good - good crust, good enough filling, and good gravy. It was everything I expected. On the other hand, my significant other ordered the pasta primavera (don't ask me why, as I have no idea what possessed my s.o.), and it was awful. That said, the place is cheap, and really old.
Also, have we mentioned Ruford's? I went there for the first time about a week or so ago, and their menus have a picture of JFK driving by the restaurant, which is cool. On the other hand, its basically diner fare.
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re: Caroline1
Yep, still around. I've heard varying reports about how good it is or isn't. Back in the day, it was good.
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re: Cathy
The rolls at the Chicken Pie Shop are wonderful. We get them for Thanksgiving because, with all the other cooking to do, the last thing I want to make is bread. Apparently, I'm not alone because, when you go to pick them up, there are literally hundreds of orders of rolls sitting there waiting to be picked up. And they make great little turkey sandwiches the next day.
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Cool article about the old Rheinlander and its founder/owner (who recently died):
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re: jmtreg
mikec nailed it. It was good enough years ago if you wanted to put down cheap drinks at the Red Fox and grab some average steak or shrimp late night, but now there are so many other options in the area with far better food. last time I got some late night food there I was surprised at the prices being high for the quality of the food.
Piano bar can still be pretty fun, even though Shirley has departed us.
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Pinnacle Peak in Santee. Went there once in 1975 and got the toughest steak I've ever had in my life.
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Some places that haven't been mentioned yet:
Adam's Steak and Eggs - this was my groups standard Sunday morning hangover recovery place after going to Crystal T's, Flannahan's or Aspen Mine Company the night before, carne asada and eggs was $2.89 during the disco era.
La Pinata - this was around Old Town long before Dianne Powers took over.
Etna Restaurant has been around at least since the 70's. It looked ancient then.
Ponce's in Kensington has been around since at least the 70's.-----
La Pinata
2836 Juan St, San Diego, CA 92110›1 Reply -
No ones mentioned the Chop Suey - Peking Restaurant in North Park. It has been there since 1931.
http://chopsueysd.blogspot.com/
As to ones I miss, I loved the German place in La Jolla Shores that is now Piatti's. I used to ride my bike there in summer to get their sandwiches.
And how about this menu from the Del circa 1900.
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re: scottca075
Still going strong since the 20's, but parking has become difficult. We've been enjoying their basic Cantonese plates for almost 20 years, shortly after moving to North Park. It is a family run operation. We love their tomato beef chow mein and walnut shrimp. It's that's comfortable old shoe of a place you can count on for take-out Chinese. Call them and they'll take it out to you curbside on a busy parking night.
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EL INDIO! Since 1947, still good, and not fallen into mediocrity like the other old Mexican restaurants (like The Casa De Pico).
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re: Josh
Josh, I don't think your statement is true either. I'm pretty sure you weren't around in 1947 to know how good El Indio was, or wasn',t back then ;-).
There was a period of time, however, say 1947 - about 1970 when El Indio was really pretty good. The tourist trade hadn't yet found them and they were very quietly and successfully feeding San Diegans what San Diegans "thought" was good, authentic Mexican food, despite the proximity to the border. It was a smaller volume place than it is now and doing with the founders knew how to do best. It was for a long time the best place to get masa and some people still swear by El Indio masa.
Time and popularity have not been particularly kind to El Indio. I don't think it's anywhere near as good as it used to be but there was a time when everything truly was made from scratch and really pretty good. That time just isn't now
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re: stevewag23
I don't know, I wasn't around in 1947 and I don't think that was the point of my comment 8 months ago.
My parents and grandparents were here then and, yes, they did spent a good deal of time outside. But then again, it's pretty hard to own and operate a chicken ranch (real chickens, not the NV kind) from inside the house.
We did spend a lot of time outside growing up whether it was playing, riding bikes, going to the park, the mountains, the beach. When we were in school or in the house because it was dark we were outside. Remember, this was the era before video games and TV was still black and white.
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Maybe I've missed their mentions, but hand in hand with Bali Hai is Tom Ham's Lighthouse, which he opened after rescuing Bali Hai. And don't forget Kona Kai as long as we're doing Shelter Island.
Oh, and Su Casa, in La Jolla, opened in the '60s.
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Bali Hai Restaurant
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Point Loma Seafoods - 1963
Pete's Sausage in Little Italy looks like it's been around for a century.-----
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Saska's Steak House in Mission Beach is 60 years old...it opened in 1951.
The Barbecue Pit (the last remaining restaurant of the chain is on University Avenue) is 64 years old...it opened in 1947.
The Pernicano's restaurant on Turquoise in Pacific Beach is pretty old though I'm not sure precisely when it opened.
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Saska's
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Isn't there a longstanding Chinese restaurant in that pink and neon "landmark" building on Pacific Coast Highway downtown? Drive by when I'm heading to the airport, but the name escapes me. Bugs me that I can't remember now!
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"Landmark" restaurant Anthony's Fish Grotto in Chula Vista - 37 years on Bay Boulevard - now closing its doors.
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re: foodiechick
Wow. I hadn't read that. They (the city of CV) really wanted to do something spectacular with the bayside development down there, and I remember this place called Shangri-la that opened up at the end of what I think was E Street. It just didn't get the business. So they brought in Anthony's, an already established restaurant in the county. It flourished for many years, but a friend told me recently they weren't getting near the business of the other Anthony's in SD. All the "bay" business went into the marina at the end of J Street, and I think most people even forgot Anthony's was there.
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A coffee shop/semi-dive in El Cajon called Kozak's (there was some other "upper-scale" place at the back, but we ate at the front Kozak's. Served real cooked oatmeal, not the instant stuff. Waitresses had been there for 20+ years. We'd sit at the counter and look at all those slices of pie in the old-fashioned glass upright display cases.
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re: Josh
Spot on, Josh. I'd forgotten El Patio. We didn't go out for Mexican food much, as my Nana had Mexican nationals who worked at her cafe. Why go out for it when they would bring the most wonderful food from home to share? No one would remember Miller's Cafe anymore, but that was hers. When we did go out, we'd head for El Juan's. I think it was the flying saucers. :)
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El Patio Restaurant
410 Broadway, Chula Vista, CA 91910El Juan Cafe
2316 Highland Ave, National City, CA 91950
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Although I haven't lived in the area nearly that long, I'd add two places in National City --- McDini's, which has been open since 1890 (not always in National City), and Cafe La Maze, which has been in business since around 1940.
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Cafe La Maze
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Rudford's on El Cajon Blvd. I first went there around 1956 and I swear, it hasn't changed a bit since then. True Diner experience.
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Rudford's Restaurant
2900 El Cajon Blvd, San Diego, CA 92104›7 Replies-
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re: DiningDiva
Yes, Carnation's and Rudfords always two separate locations.
But if you're one who even remembers Carnation, it would be very cool to get together a group of near native San Diegans who went to any of the places mentioned back in the 50's or 60's. Membership in this group could be expanded to include those who went to Rudford's or Carnation in the 50's (or early 60's), OR, to Nicolosi's at the 40th / EC Blvd location.
While I'm at it, does anyone reading this remember (in same general neighborhood), the Red Arrow Cafe, The Owl Cafe, Baker's Hamburgers or a Malt Shop at 37th / University??
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Rudford's Restaurant
2900 El Cajon Blvd, San Diego, CA 92104
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Having grown up in the South Bay, I have a whole other list for you.
LaBella's Pizza - 1955, still family-owned and operated (Chula Vista)
Jalisco's Cafe - since the early 1960's; spent my share of "wee hours in the morning" sobering up there in college (Imperial Beach)
El Juan's - see commentary on Charcoal House (National City)
Venice Pizza - family-owned and operated since 1954 (El Cajon Blvd., San Diego)
Aunt Emma's Pancake House - see commentary on Jalisco's (Chula Vista)
Charcoal House - I remember going there as a kid, so the place has to have been around a long time! (La Mesa)-----
Charcoal House Restaurant
9566 Murray Dr, La Mesa, CA 91942El Juan Cafe
2316 Highland Ave, National City, CA 91950Aunt Emma's Pancake Restaurant
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re: phee
OMG phee...you mentioned El Juan's across from the Pink Pig in National City and when I was young we would get our meal comped because I would eat jalapeno's and no one could believe it...my mom always dragged my butt in there for a comped meal!
Jalisco's cafe has some excellent tamales and the Charcoal House next to Anthony's still has some of the best blue cheese dressing and a damn good cheeseburger!Did anyone mention Mt. Etna Pizza and my beloved Waterfront or NuNu's?
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re: DiningDiva
They were temporarily closed for a bit when the prior operator left in the hands of another relative, all from the same family as the original founder. So as far as I know it never left the original family's hands.
Anyway before they reopened, now quite a while ago, I had a chance to talk with the new operator, apparently an Uncle of the former operator. He said that when he takes it back he'll re-introduce the founder's original Carnitas recipe. Apparently he felt that they had deviated a bit and he was keen to bringing the old recipes back... ...not that I ever noticed... They've always been good...
They're still in the same 'ole spot in Barrio Logan, right across the street from the Fruitlandia...
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re: DiningDiva
I think the closing was temporary. Sounds like a field trip is in order to verify.
I used to eat there a LOT when I worked on Newton Street. I'd grab a dozen of their freshly cooked harina tortillas, or a couple of their little mixto carnitas burritos -- just homemade carnitas, a dab of beans, and some salsa. Crazy good.
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re: cgfan
I don't eat meat but the carnitas look outstanding!
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Crown Room (Sunday Brunch)
Restaurants at La Valencia since 1926
Hob Knob Hill 1944
Tony Jacal 1946
Red Tracton's established 1948
La Especial Del Norte
Grant Grill established 1951
Red Sails Inn established 1957
Old Trieste
Harry's Coffee Shop 1960
Red Fox Steakhouse
Imperial House early 70's (feels older)
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I was at Albies last weekend, just for drinks and appetizers. Closed the place down with some friends. I had never eaten there before. The artichoke was just about the worst I've ever had -- boiled to a soggy, limp and overly acidulated mush. The calamari was better -- a pounded steak, fried with a light breading and covered with a too lemony sauce. But the martinis are fine as is the singer.
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I'll add Old Trieste, Anthony's, Niederfranks (okay, that's not a restaurant but their ice cream's been around a long time), Nicolosi's has been around for 50+ years. FWIW, Hob Nob Hill and Mr. A's, the Westgate, El Indio, Tony's Jacal, Posiden, and the Grove Bakery.
I'm pretty sure I can come up with more if I think about it.
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Tony's Jacal
621 Valley Ave, Solana Beach, CA 92075Hob Nob Hill
2271 1st Ave, San Diego, CA 92101Old Trieste Restaurant
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If you ever watch Ken Kramer's About San Diego on KPBS, he will hit one of the old places every couple of weeks. I will add Chicken Pie Shop, Filippi's, and the Marine Room. And I think they may been around longer than your three. The Pie Shop moved, I think, in the 50's, The Marine Room has been renovated, but I don't think Filippi's has changed much sinse it opened.
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Marine Room Restaurant
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