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Who's familiar with 'old' San Diego restaurants?

Howdy!
SF post got me thinking about old restaurants in SD and wondering which ones are still around?
Albie's Beef Inn in Mission Valley comes to mind and Bully's East..and the beloved Bali Hai..

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  1. Baci, Troy's, Perry's, Jimmy's (Santee), Aunt Emma's. All since the 70's.

    If you consider the 70's to be long ago.

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    Baci Restaurant
    1955 West Morena Blvd, San Diego, CA 92110

    1. If you ever watch Ken Kramer's About San Diego on KPBS, he will hit one of the old places every couple of weeks. I will add Chicken Pie Shop, Filippi's, and the Marine Room. And I think they may been around longer than your three. The Pie Shop moved, I think, in the 50's, The Marine Room has been renovated, but I don't think Filippi's has changed much sinse it opened.

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      Marine Room Restaurant
      2000 Spindrift Drive, La Jolla, CA 92037

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      1. re: littlestevie

        Oh yes. Chicken Pie Shop since 1938...

      2. I'll add Old Trieste, Anthony's, Niederfranks (okay, that's not a restaurant but their ice cream's been around a long time), Nicolosi's has been around for 50+ years. FWIW, Hob Nob Hill and Mr. A's, the Westgate, El Indio, Tony's Jacal, Posiden, and the Grove Bakery.

        I'm pretty sure I can come up with more if I think about it.

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        Tony's Jacal
        621 Valley Ave, Solana Beach, CA 92075

        Hob Nob Hill
        2271 1st Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

        Old Trieste Restaurant
        2335 Morena Blvd, San Diego, CA 92110

        1. I was at Albies last weekend, just for drinks and appetizers. Closed the place down with some friends. I had never eaten there before. The artichoke was just about the worst I've ever had -- boiled to a soggy, limp and overly acidulated mush. The calamari was better -- a pounded steak, fried with a light breading and covered with a too lemony sauce. But the martinis are fine as is the singer.

          1. Crown Room (Sunday Brunch)
            Restaurants at La Valencia since 1926
            Hob Knob Hill 1944
            Tony Jacal 1946
            Red Tracton's established 1948
            La Especial Del Norte
            Grant Grill established 1951
            Red Sails Inn established 1957
            Old Trieste
            Harry's Coffee Shop 1960
            Red Fox Steakhouse
            Imperial House early 70's (feels older)
            Lubach's . . . oh, wait.

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            1. re: foodiechick

              Red Tracton's was up in LA, I remember going to it as a kid. I think it moved down here in the mid 70's.

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              Red Tracton's
              550 Via De La Valle, Solana Beach, CA 92075

              1. re: littlestevie

                And I was forgetting Lola's up in Carlsbad, they have been around sinse the 40's.

              2. re: foodiechick

                I don't think there was a finer restaurant than Lubach's. Many a memory was made there. I lived in Los Angeles but handled court cases in San Diego. Impressed girlfriends with Lubach's and the mock turtle soup and the duck in Montmorency.

                1. re: Hughlipton

                  Ran across a Lubach's menu from 1976 and see that the mock turtle soup was $1.25. The lobster Newburg and thermidor were both $9.50.

                  1. re: DoctorChow

                    Now an old menu like that is worth photoing and attaching for us all to see. I LOVED Lubach's.

                    1. re: Hughlipton

                      Would love to, but it's in a book published that year called "San Diego Restaurant Menus", and I don't think it would be legal, copyright-wise. (No, I didn't steal an actual Lubach's menu back in '76.)

                      I had several restaurants that are in the table of contents circled; this is one of them. It was fun looking back -- hadn't looked at (or even run across) this dusty old paperback in decades.

                      1. re: DoctorChow

                        I suspect you'd be covered under "Fair Use" if you credit the book and are clearly not profiting from the publication.

              3. How 'bout El Porvenir, since 1910!

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                  1. re: foodiechick

                    It's (or was) in Barrio Logan, specialized in carnitas. I thought it closed a couple of years ago.

                    1. re: DiningDiva

                      They were temporarily closed for a bit when the prior operator left in the hands of another relative, all from the same family as the original founder. So as far as I know it never left the original family's hands.

                      Anyway before they reopened, now quite a while ago, I had a chance to talk with the new operator, apparently an Uncle of the former operator. He said that when he takes it back he'll re-introduce the founder's original Carnitas recipe. Apparently he felt that they had deviated a bit and he was keen to bringing the old recipes back... ...not that I ever noticed... They've always been good...

                      They're still in the same 'ole spot in Barrio Logan, right across the street from the Fruitlandia...

                      1. re: cgfan

                        Try El Quatro Pilpas in Barrio Logan. Has been there since the '30. Still some of the best Mexican food in town. Get there early and they close around 2:30 every day. Worth the long wait in line outside.

                        1. re: wcarpenter01

                          It's called Las Quatro Milpas - or to the locals, the Green Fly :)

                           
                      2. re: DiningDiva

                        I think the closing was temporary. Sounds like a field trip is in order to verify.

                        I used to eat there a LOT when I worked on Newton Street. I'd grab a dozen of their freshly cooked harina tortillas, or a couple of their little mixto carnitas burritos -- just homemade carnitas, a dab of beans, and some salsa. Crazy good.

                    2. re: cgfan

                      Damn it -- you beat me to the punch! The OLDEST restaurant still alive in San Diego!

                      1. Not a restaurant per se, but the Cheese Shop La Jolla since 1972...

                            1. re: Beach Chick

                              Hey with the recent turn over rate and closures around town consider that vintage! :>)

                              1. re: Beach Chick

                                I thought they were 72. Still like Bully's better.

                                1. re: cstr

                                  It was actually founded in 1970.
                                  The Oceanside location is known as very haunted.
                                  ; )

                                  1. re: Beach Chick

                                    Was it a ghost of a cow? and not a commodity cow!

                              2. re: cstr

                                Hi, I have finally found out how to post to the one I am trying to reply to. Finally. Sorry to you all.

                                Yes, Hungry Hunter back then, took over when the Big Yellow House went out of business. Remember that? They always did have good chicken. At Hungry Hunter, I always thought it was special that they would bring that little revolving tray, like a little salad bar, to your table and you could choose what ingreds you wanted in your salad. The steaks were great. I think Mission Valley is the last one left and haven't eaten there in over 10 years. Bye

                                As for Las Quatras Milpas, small menu, dive, best, best food, hot, hot sauce, not salsa. GO, GO NOW, get there early. L

                                1. re: LindyN

                                  There still is a Hungry Hunter in Temecula. Probably only two left.

                                  1. re: onemagicman

                                    Hi Magic,
                                    Just read this. I think there is still one in Mission Valley and they call it Hunter Steakhouse now. It right off the N. side of the frwy, maybe Taylor St. exit.
                                    L

                                    1. re: LindyN

                                      I just found out there is a Hunter Steak House also in Oceanside.

                                      1. re: onemagicman

                                        Hi Magic,
                                        Thanks, I didn't know. I only go up there to Carlsbad once a year for the flowers. I forget the name of the place, and then pick strawberries down the street at the U Pick.
                                        Or if I am going to Anaheim to the Park or to visit my best friend.
                                        Your friend just made a reply to one of my posts. He said you used to work at Lido's a long time ago. I have eaten there all my life. We must have met. How long did you work there? When did you stop? I don't know how to tell you where to look for that post. He said he used to go there for lunch, so something, and you were a bus boy? Try to find that post, you would enjoy reading it I think.
                                        Best, Lindy

                                        1. re: LindyN

                                          I actual log in as two name, primarily OMM, sometimes almost in error as wcarpenter......I was a Manager and a gent who worked for me is the one I mentioned in the Lido post as a young high school kid. We went there often for lunch.

                                          1. re: onemagicman

                                            Hi Magic,
                                            I don't even know how to log in. I just reply to the Emails they send me.
                                            Do you still eat there?
                                            If so, go look for my daughter's picture. It's a fruit still life. I am so sorry we lost the origional in our house fire 12 years ago, but we had copies, so that is good. She is about ready to get her degree in art and then who knows? I would love to be 24 again with my whole life ahead of me. Okay, off topic.
                                            Now I need their pizza. Lucky me, I have some in my freezer from 3 weeks ago : )
                                            Bye, L

                                            1. re: LindyN

                                              We seem to go to Lido's a few times a year. There are many alternatives which we enjoy, and I enjoy and entertaining at home.

                                              1. re: onemagicman

                                                Morning Magic,

                                                Have you ever tried Lorna's Italian on Govenor Drive (about 1 mile west of the 805)? It in a large, 3 sided strip mall. They have really great food. The only thing that is not great is the spag. marinara. The pasta Bolognese is the best I have ever had. It comes with a different pasta, but I always get it with angel hair. They mix the meat with spicy sau. so it has a bit of a bite.
                                                It is not a really old SD rest. But I have been eating there, for about 20 years. Don't know when they opened. Most of the staff has been there a very long time. They have two kitchens, one for hot, one for cold. The chopped antipasto is also very good. Even their house salad is good with that homemade dressing and toppings. My daughter likes the pizza. I have tried many of the chicken dishes. Medium priced. Very excellent service!They recently changed their bread after all these years, and it is SO good. Better than before.
                                                Have a great day, Lindy

                                                What is your favorite Italian?

                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                  I have never heard of, nor tried Lorna's. Thanks for the tip! I love Italian, and could eat it 8 nights a week if I could.

                                                  I love, love, love "raw" sauce, or marinara and make it all the time. We grow tomatoes in season, bad always "can" as many jars as I can. I sauté raw peeled garden tomatoes - do a rough grind in the food processor then sauté with fresh garlic and sweet - yellow-onions, cool off and use my food saver and " preserve" in large jars then freeze. A great base to a great sauce. I will add all kinds of veggies -yellow squash, zucchini, etc and build a sauce from there. Our preference is angle hair but also enjoy rigatoni. How about you Miss L?

                                                  1. re: onemagicman

                                                    Hi Magic,

                                                    Please try Lorna's. You won't be disapointed. We all like different kinds of sauces. Because, I personally, don't like their marinara, doesn't mean you won't. Just don't start there. Try the Bol. I told you about. And I BET, if you ask real nice : ) ,they would give you a little taste of the marinara. The Bol., they make up fresh for every order. They must make the marinara ahead of time. They have two dining areas, one in the front as you enter and then one on the other side. Like they took the next space over, it is a strip mall. In the next seating area is where the hot kitchen is. It is where the tables for the larger parties are. I bet if you asked they would seat you there by the kitchen. I don't know about you, but I just love to sit and watch anyone cook in an open kitchen. They make most of their sauces fresh as an order comes in. I think you would have fun watching too. They make their pizzas in the back of the front dining room where the cold stuff is.

                                                    I also have canned sauce. I usually put it in freezer gallon baggies (2 cups) so it will lay flat and I can stack them. I couldn't this year, health problems, but we had about 6 plants. They didn't do as good as past years. Especially the grape and cherry tomatoes. They had tough skins. And we got no where as many as in the past. Last year we had a bumper crop of blackberries, and this year was about 1/4 of that. Sometimes it is just like that. Actually, now that I am thinking about it, the zuccini, all the squashes, nothing was as good as last year. I planted some asperagus. That takes a couple of years to really get going good. I had a house once, where I could pick 3/4 lb. a day of pencil asp. every day for, maybe, 5 or 6 weeks. It built up to than and then went down, but I still picked every day. Now that was a treat!!! They grow very fast.

                                                    Your sauce sounds good. You use it as a 'base' for many things. So do I.

                                                    Bye for now, Miss L : )

                                                    1. re: LindyN

                                                      We will try Lorna's in the near future. I am also growing asp, and in its second year. Looking forward to picking our own.

                                                      I love exhibition kitchens and have dined at many of them over the years. I lived in the Bay Area for years and they have any number of great food open kitchen. I have yet to find one here or in the area. Too bad. Just built a 3x6 ft raised bed and going to plant lettuce and some "winter" root vegs. Will be fun. I always have a garden growing. Have a great Sunday and root for the home team!

                                                      1. re: onemagicman

                                                        Morning Magic,

                                                        I wouldn't call Lorna's an exhibition kitchen really, like the fine restaurants you are remembering. This is just an open kitchen you can see and watch. Also Aladdin Cafe (Middle Eastern food) in Clairemont has an even better view. I will tell you about their food on another post soon. YUM And best view is Buca di Beppo. You get a reservation for their "Kitchen Table" and it is literally right in the kitchen. It is a big booth that can hold up to 6. There is only one booth there. There are two seatings you can reserve, I think 5 and 8. All the servers, well most of them, will stop and pause and tell you what they are holding, so you can see. Then off they go. It smells real strong like garlic in there, my favorite perfume : ) Their food is good, not excellent, but well worth going for the show.

                                                        I don't know how much you know about growing asp. so I will give you my 2 cents. Always cut the sprouts by at least, 12 inches. You do not want them to turn into fern leaves. That will slow down the growth of the plant. Below ground is spreading and spreading and you want it to, so you will get more and more asp. I only learned this by growing them. Every year, your crop will get bigger and bigger. Did you get to harvest any this year, I hope? When you do have some, just snip them at the ground. Mine used to only need one or two days from when they popped out of the ground until I cut them. They were mature plants though. The more you cut, the more they grow.

                                                        Have fun watching the game, Lindy

                                                        1. re: LindyN

                                                          Hi Lindy, Thanks for the tip on the asp. I thought I read you should let them fern out and grow tall for the 1st year or so. I have not cut them back. Should I gut them to approx. one ft, etc? We have been to the kitchen table at Bucco's 3 times, and fun. Lot's of small "samples" as waitresses, etc. whizzed by. A fun night, but as you know too much food.

                                                          I spent the morning planting romaine lettuce,6 each, bell peppers, and more herbs. I have the perfect sunny side yard which is sunny almost all day so most everything grows well - provided I don't over water too much, which I seem to do. Take care.

                                                          OMM

                                                          1. re: onemagicman

                                                            Hi Magic,

                                                            Please do what you think is best. I was only talking from the point of having some. I guess, read some more, or call the place you buy your plants from.

                                                            Sounds like a fun morning, You must be west of me. I am by La Mesa. Where is your neighborhood? BTW, Romaine is my fav lettuce. I bet, since we won't get winter until the beginning of Dec. or so, you could put in some zucc or any squash to grow around the other plants, they sure spread out, and you could have some in 6 weeks? Good luck with your new garden.

                                                            Have fun! L

                                                            1. re: LindyN

                                                              I welcome your input. I will cut the asp back tomorrow morning and see what we get. Everyone's positive opinion is welcomed

                                                              We live in a small non-gated private community called Bay Ridge on the top of the hill where the 94 crosses the 15. 160 homes built in 1980. We bought our home 5 years ago when I retired and did a 100% remodel. We had a condo in Mission Valley for 19 years.

                                                              Thanks for the tip on the asp. Difficult to grow "winter" veg in this climate.

                                                              Ps purchases the asp at Walmart in Lemon Grove.

                                                              1. re: onemagicman

                                                                Hi Magic,

                                                                From what happened to my asp., they go dormant in winter, ha (when it is colder)it is never colder. You could look it up, but cutting them to the ground, I think, is a good thing. You prob will not get much new growth this late in the year, but it will help for next year, I hope.

                                                                My asp. I got with a new home, it was trial and error. More error and learning, ha. Learning is always a good thing.

                                                                I used to live in Lemon Grove, long time ago. Not too far from you now. You are pretty close to Los Cuatros Milpas Mexican, have you ever been there?

                                                                It must be great to have a yard after being in a condo for so long.

                                                                Night, Lindy

                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                  When I was transferred back to SD in 1996, I was taken to LQM for lunch and have gone there many times over the years. Wes love having a yard after all the condo years. That was the plan when I retired

                                                                  This has been a nice on going discussion.

                                                                  M

                                                                  1. re: onemagicman

                                                                    Hi Magic,

                                                                    I wrote this somewhere, who knows, before I learned how to post correctly.

                                                                    When I was 19 I worked in a furniture warehouse a few blocks from there. Plus, I had to drive around to the stores, but barrio logan was my base. We would get take out from there every week. It was a BIG order. I was the asst. buyer for the chain. I had never had mexican like that before. Imagine, no guac? Unheard of. If you go early there is basically no line.

                                                                    I had some friends visiting from New York and I took them there. A man and his daughter. They were Indian, from India, origionally. Vegetarian. Still plenty for them to choose from. They raved about the food. He never had eaten anything like it. They loved it. He took his camara back and took pictures of the ladies making the tortillas, many pictures, dozens. He went into the kitchen, not the tortilla one, the back one, and took pictures. He was about 50 then and he was like giddy. He went back and bought two huge containers of the hot sauce to take home when he was done, he loved it so much. I said it will be bad by the time you get to NY. He said, don't worry, we will boil it and it will be okay. I was worried. He wanted it for his wife who loved hot sauce and they never had anything like that before. (they didn't die) He hand carried it on the airplane. Much later, I learned those big chunks, you sometimes get in the hot sauce, are pork fat. I still feel guilty now. I didn't know, and he took it home.

                                                                    Night, Lindy

                              3. The Venetian, The Godfather, Mona Lisa, Cafe 101, Roberto's taco joints.
                                Beach Chick how long is your beloved old school Longhorn in business?

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                                1. re: Island

                                  Since at least 1976, probably much earlier.

                                  What about Charcoal House, La Mesa?

                                  Wrangler Pit BBQ, El Cajon?

                                  Sun Cafe Downtown- just relocated.

                                  Hob Nob Hill

                                  Filippis

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                                  Charcoal House Restaurant
                                  9566 Murray Dr, La Mesa, CA 91942

                                  Hob Nob Hill
                                  2271 1st Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                    Hi, I used to eat at Charcoal House all the time. Haven't been there for at least 20 years. Food quality went down, fast. They used to have this most delicious dish, can't remember the name. It was a filet on a pan that is like the modern day fajita plate. The steak came out with this delicious sizzling sauce. It had, I would guess, congnac (sp?) shallots bit of dijon, CAN SOMEONE HELP ME HERE WITH GETTING A SPELL CHECKER TO WORK ON MY POSTS PLEASE The sauce was like lick your plate clean, that good.
                                    We always went to the BBQ Pit on Fltc Pwky on top of the hill. Same great quality today. No change. I ask for no fat on my ham and they will do it, none. They are great. Tasty beans, and tasty soups too.

                                    Filippi's, we ate at the El Cajon one, that is now where a frwy on or off ramp is now. Shopping center gone. Now we eat at the one on Friars. It hasn't changed much. They changed the bread. The new way is not so good, but if you ask for it the old way on sour dough, they will do it for you. That is much better. Bye

                                2. Having grown up in the South Bay, I have a whole other list for you.

                                  LaBella's Pizza - 1955, still family-owned and operated (Chula Vista)
                                  Jalisco's Cafe - since the early 1960's; spent my share of "wee hours in the morning" sobering up there in college (Imperial Beach)
                                  El Juan's - see commentary on Charcoal House (National City)
                                  Venice Pizza - family-owned and operated since 1954 (El Cajon Blvd., San Diego)
                                  Aunt Emma's Pancake House - see commentary on Jalisco's (Chula Vista)
                                  Charcoal House - I remember going there as a kid, so the place has to have been around a long time! (La Mesa)

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                                  Charcoal House Restaurant
                                  9566 Murray Dr, La Mesa, CA 91942

                                  El Juan Cafe
                                  2316 Highland Ave, National City, CA 91950

                                  Aunt Emma's Pancake Restaurant
                                  700 E St, Chula Vista, CA 91910

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                                  1. re: phee

                                    OMG phee...you mentioned El Juan's across from the Pink Pig in National City and when I was young we would get our meal comped because I would eat jalapeno's and no one could believe it...my mom always dragged my butt in there for a comped meal!
                                    Jalisco's cafe has some excellent tamales and the Charcoal House next to Anthony's still has some of the best blue cheese dressing and a damn good cheeseburger!

                                    Did anyone mention Mt. Etna Pizza and my beloved Waterfront or NuNu's?

                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                      Yep - El Juan's was one of those places offering a "flying saucer". Makes me laugh now.

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                                      El Juan Cafe
                                      2316 Highland Ave, National City, CA 91950

                                  2. Rudford's on El Cajon Blvd. I first went there around 1956 and I swear, it hasn't changed a bit since then. True Diner experience.

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                                    Rudford's Restaurant
                                    2900 El Cajon Blvd, San Diego, CA 92104

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                                    1. re: mcgrath

                                      Are you sure Rudford's has been around that long. I thought that was the old Carnation location.

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                                      Rudford's Restaurant
                                      2900 El Cajon Blvd, San Diego, CA 92104

                                      1. re: DiningDiva

                                        The website actually says "since 1949". DD, I'm pretty sure the Carnation place used to be about a block or so.........east, I think.

                                        1. re: phee

                                          You could certainly be right, that was a long time ago and Carnation's been gone a long time too. Too bad, they had great sundaes

                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                            They were two more blocks East and on the East corner of the block, not the West corner, as Rudford's is...We used to go to Carnation's for late breakfast and get a scoop of ice cream when we were leaving.

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                                            Rudford's Restaurant
                                            2900 El Cajon Blvd, San Diego, CA 92104

                                            1. re: Cathy

                                              Yep, verified with a friend this morning - Carnation was on Ohio and ECB.

                                              1. re: Cathy

                                                I have loved Rudford's since the '80s. Their salsa is the best in San Diego--but they won't bottle it and they won't give out the recipe, either. It's made in house and a deep dark secret.

                                                Link: http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com

                                          2. re: DiningDiva

                                            Yes, Carnation's and Rudfords always two separate locations.

                                            But if you're one who even remembers Carnation, it would be very cool to get together a group of near native San Diegans who went to any of the places mentioned back in the 50's or 60's. Membership in this group could be expanded to include those who went to Rudford's or Carnation in the 50's (or early 60's), OR, to Nicolosi's at the 40th / EC Blvd location.

                                            While I'm at it, does anyone reading this remember (in same general neighborhood), the Red Arrow Cafe, The Owl Cafe, Baker's Hamburgers or a Malt Shop at 37th / University??

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                                            Rudford's Restaurant
                                            2900 El Cajon Blvd, San Diego, CA 92104

                                            1. re: mcgrath

                                              it's been years.. since I have been to the Carnation restaurant.. I know it was closes soooooo long ago.. but I was at lips and I can swear that is the old carnation location. 3036 el cajon blvd. am I correct?

                                              1. re: mcgrath

                                                Hi Mcgrath,

                                                I am reading back, catching up. What is a near native of SD? My kids are third generation. I used to go, for dessert, at Carnation's, well, long before Chicken Pie even moved over there, their third location, for Chicken Pie I mean. There was another restaurant on El cajon Blvd. that opened up where an old time , very popular, expensive and stylish dress/clothing shop used to be. East of chicken pie now and on the same side of the street, not too far. Anybody remember the name of that? It is on the tip of my brain.

                                                And I completely agree with you McG, Lets go to Rudfords or Nicolosi's or anywhere and enjoy some food and good company. I believe I remember the Malt Shop. Not the others you mentioned. Do you remember at the Woolworth's at Mission Valley mall (I am a bad speller just so you know) you used to , long ago, be able to go in there and sit on a softy round stool and get the very best shake? In a very cold, tall clear glass. Yummy O delicious.

                                                Night, Lindy

                                            2. re: mcgrath

                                              I was just there on Tuesday for breakfast, again, and they have not changed at all...which is good!

                                            3. Although I haven't lived in the area nearly that long, I'd add two places in National City --- McDini's, which has been open since 1890 (not always in National City), and Cafe La Maze, which has been in business since around 1940.

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                                              Cafe La Maze
                                              1441 Highland Ave, National City, CA 91950

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                                              1. re: beantowntitletown

                                                Ah, McDini's, formerly the Italian restaurant Dini's - run by the same family, no less.

                                                I'm kinda shocked no one has mentioned Nob Hill yet.

                                                1. re: jmtreg

                                                  I did, and I'm offended that you've not been reading my every word and every post.

                                                  1. re: jmtreg

                                                    Hi jmtreg,

                                                    Did you see Hob Nob Hill when Food Network went there. That was fun to see. It must have been great for everyone who works there.

                                                    Bye, Lindy

                                                2. I believe El Patio in Chula Vista has been in business since the 1940s. Nati's in OB has been going since the early 1960s.

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                                                  El Patio Restaurant
                                                  410 Broadway, Chula Vista, CA 91910

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                                                  1. re: Josh

                                                    Spot on, Josh. I'd forgotten El Patio. We didn't go out for Mexican food much, as my Nana had Mexican nationals who worked at her cafe. Why go out for it when they would bring the most wonderful food from home to share? No one would remember Miller's Cafe anymore, but that was hers. When we did go out, we'd head for El Juan's. I think it was the flying saucers. :)

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                                                    El Patio Restaurant
                                                    410 Broadway, Chula Vista, CA 91910

                                                    El Juan Cafe
                                                    2316 Highland Ave, National City, CA 91950

                                                    1. re: Josh

                                                      Hi, I used to eat at El Patio when I worked down on Broadway 36 years ago. YUM. I haven't thought of them in so long. Lindy

                                                    2. A coffee shop/semi-dive in El Cajon called Kozak's (there was some other "upper-scale" place at the back, but we ate at the front Kozak's. Served real cooked oatmeal, not the instant stuff. Waitresses had been there for 20+ years. We'd sit at the counter and look at all those slices of pie in the old-fashioned glass upright display cases.

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                                                      1. re: pine time

                                                        Kozaks has been closed at least three years. Hammurabi has been in that location at least two years.

                                                        I miss Kozaks and the three bean salad in a crock on every table.

                                                      2. Marino's in Pacific Beach. My Mom just turned 70 and she used to go there on dates in her teens, so 50+ years for them! (still have the greatest pizza!) Also the Frosty Shop on Garnet has been there for at least 50 years.

                                                        1. "Landmark" restaurant Anthony's Fish Grotto in Chula Vista - 37 years on Bay Boulevard - now closing its doors.

                                                          http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/20...

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                                                          1. re: foodiechick

                                                            Wow. I hadn't read that. They (the city of CV) really wanted to do something spectacular with the bayside development down there, and I remember this place called Shangri-la that opened up at the end of what I think was E Street. It just didn't get the business. So they brought in Anthony's, an already established restaurant in the county. It flourished for many years, but a friend told me recently they weren't getting near the business of the other Anthony's in SD. All the "bay" business went into the marina at the end of J Street, and I think most people even forgot Anthony's was there.

                                                          2. Turf Supper Club

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                                                            Turf Supper Club
                                                            1116 25th St, San Diego, CA 92102

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                                                            1. re: Wisey

                                                              I don't recall the Turf being that old - maybe 15 years.

                                                              1. re: jmtreg

                                                                It had been there for a long time, but was repositioned/rebranded about 15 years ago. Now under new management with something of a cloud.

                                                                1. re: Fake Name

                                                                  I just know that my parents remember going there in the early 60's...I go there now, and love the low key ambiance. They make a killer bloody mary!

                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                    Well, from what I hear, the new management is the former landlord who evicted Tim Mays (who refurbished the Turf and turned into the grill-your-own-steak place that it is) specifically to steal the restaurant.

                                                                    1. re: jmtreg

                                                                      Yeah, that's what I heard as well, (the aformentioned "cloud") but have no facts nor primary sources to support that.

                                                              2. Isn't there a longstanding Chinese restaurant in that pink and neon "landmark" building on Pacific Coast Highway downtown? Drive by when I'm heading to the airport, but the name escapes me. Bugs me that I can't remember now!

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                                                                  1. re: Island

                                                                    China Camp ? I think it is closed

                                                                    1. re: honkman

                                                                      China Camp closed recently, and Fat City I believe is still open. But those are fairly recent- 70s maybe.

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                                                                      2137 Pacific Hwy Ste A, San Diego, CA 92101

                                                                      1. re: Fake Name

                                                                        Yup, Fat City and China Camp. That's the place. Thanks.

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                                                                        2137 Pacific Hwy Ste A, San Diego, CA 92101

                                                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                            Lubach location was on N. Harbor Drive, now corporate hdqtr/offices. Fat City/China Camp was around in the 70's at the same time as Lubachs. FC/CC on Pacific Highway at Hawthorne across the street from Body Beautiful Car Wash.

                                                                            1. re: foodiechick

                                                                              Thanks, I always get that location confused. That was a long time ago and memories just aren't what they used to be ;-)

                                                                              1. re: foodiechick

                                                                                The old Lubach's location now serves as one of the training rooms for Solar Turbines on Harbor Drive. The Fat City corporate office, which sits atop Denny's/FC/CC, is the former site of Tops Supper Club. I miss Tom Fat.

                                                                                1. re: EddieB

                                                                                  You could always fly up to Sacramento. The Fat empire is very much alive and well up there

                                                                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                    Since Tom passed away though, Fat City San Diego appears to be the red headed step child of the Fat empire. Tom's nephew now runs the corp. out of Sacramento. Rumor has it that a deal is in the works to sell the San Diego Fat compound.

                                                                                    1. re: EddieB

                                                                                      Could well be. My nephew went to school with one of Tom Fat's grandchildren (last saw him this past Xmas when everone was home) and they all seem to be going in directions other than the restaurant business.

                                                                    2. Saska's Steak House in Mission Beach is 60 years old...it opened in 1951.

                                                                      The Barbecue Pit (the last remaining restaurant of the chain is on University Avenue) is 64 years old...it opened in 1947.

                                                                      The Pernicano's restaurant on Turquoise in Pacific Beach is pretty old though I'm not sure precisely when it opened.

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                                                                      3768 Mission Blvd, San Diego, CA 92109

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                                                                      1. re: nileg

                                                                        Pernicano's opened its first restaurant (in Hillcrest?) in 1946. Not sure how long the PB one has been there.

                                                                        I still remember when there was a Barbecue Pit on Garnet in PB.

                                                                          1. re: bizzwriter

                                                                            I used to live near Pernican's (Hillcrest) in the mid-50s and it was our Friday night date for cheese pizza and a pitcher of dark beer. A magical combination! They cleared the stuck pizza dough from the ceiling every night after closing, the result of zealous hand tossing.

                                                                            1. re: Caroline1

                                                                              Funny, I thought zealous hand tossing was the main reason the old man won't sell the building.

                                                                              1. re: Josh

                                                                                The old dude is just stubborn. He won't sell his 3% ownership of the Chargers either :-)

                                                                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                  Seems to be the polar opposite of his sweet brother that owns the PB Pernicanos.

                                                                            2. re: bizzwriter

                                                                              I believe the original BBQ Pit was in La Mesa, on Fletcher Pkwy. It is still there. Also a location on Plaza in Nat City. I think they used to be the same owner, but not sure now.

                                                                              1. re: bizzwriter

                                                                                Hi, Pernicano's and the building behind, something like Casa di Baffi, they are being forced to sell the property. They closed the restaurants and wouldn't sell the real estate and it is an eyesore. It is for sale now at way too high a price, but the city is making them sell. I remember going to both places, such good food. Lindy

                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                  I don't thing they are being "forced" to sell by the city (although, I agree there has been a lot of pressure to do so). The next generation has taken over the management of the owner's asset portfolio, and I believe they are pricing it a fairly marketable price for that property and the future development prospect. A final ciao to Casa Di Baffi and good riddance to the horrible blight it became.

                                                                                  1. re: foodiechick

                                                                                    Hi foodie, Yes I read about it. The old man would not sell and now they are being forced to sell or fix it up into working condition. And, yes, the next generation has taken over because he is about 95 give or take a few years either way. They have no choice. I read in more than one place, that the price was way too high. They all will come to a meeting point, I just wish I could have had the chicken marsala one more time : )Thanks for your comment, Lindy

                                                                                    1. re: foodiechick

                                                                                      And By the way, what are you doing up in the middle of the night like me,: ) yuck Go to sleep girlfriend

                                                                              2. Point Loma Seafoods - 1963
                                                                                Pete's Sausage in Little Italy looks like it's been around for a century.

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                                                                                2805 Emerson St, San Diego, CA 92106

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                                                                                1. re: sdnosh

                                                                                  Speaking of sausage, I'm thinking that Sausage King in Mission Hills must have been around for many decades by now. Great old-school/old-world vibe.

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                                                                                  811 W Washington St, San Diego, CA 92103

                                                                                  1. re: bizzwriter

                                                                                    Ah, we used to stop at Sausage King for Landjäger every Sunday when heading back home from the Unitarian Church back in the late 60s.

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                                                                                    811 W Washington St, San Diego, CA 92103

                                                                                  2. re: sdnosh

                                                                                    I know Pete moved his family down here from L.A. in the 60's.

                                                                                  3. There is quite a list going here. didnt know there was so many old restaurants in san diego

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                                                                                    1. re: xTommyjordan

                                                                                      Me either, but wonder how many are worth trying.

                                                                                    2. Fidel's (since early 60s)
                                                                                      Roxy's (since late 60s)
                                                                                      Su Casa (1967)
                                                                                      Jose's Courtroom (1972)

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                                                                                      1. re: Encinitan

                                                                                        Yeah, but Jose's Courtroom was sold a couple of years ago, dropping the Courtroom from the name. A mere shadow of its former self both in terms of vibe and food, it has become more like a La Jolla El Torito. Sad, I miss grouchy old Doc.

                                                                                        1. re: Encinitan

                                                                                          Hi, Fidel's. YUM. That about covers it. Second best chili relleno and sauce in the city. I didn't mean the salsa, I meant the sauce on the chili. Bye, Lindy

                                                                                        2. Maybe I've missed their mentions, but hand in hand with Bali Hai is Tom Ham's Lighthouse, which he opened after rescuing Bali Hai. And don't forget Kona Kai as long as we're doing Shelter Island.

                                                                                          Oh, and Su Casa, in La Jolla, opened in the '60s.

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                                                                                          2230 Shelter Island Dr, San Diego, CA 92106

                                                                                          1. Nati's Mexican Restaurant in OB. It's still there. Shouldn't be, but it is.

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                                                                                            1852 Bacon St, San Diego, CA 92107

                                                                                            1. EL INDIO! Since 1947, still good, and not fallen into mediocrity like the other old Mexican restaurants (like The Casa De Pico).

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                                                                                              1. re: tplife

                                                                                                Still good?

                                                                                                I think I'd word it differently. I'd say it's never been good, at least since my first visit in '84, and has maintained its mediocrity quite well.

                                                                                                1. re: Josh

                                                                                                  Josh, I don't think your statement is true either. I'm pretty sure you weren't around in 1947 to know how good El Indio was, or wasn',t back then ;-).

                                                                                                  There was a period of time, however, say 1947 - about 1970 when El Indio was really pretty good. The tourist trade hadn't yet found them and they were very quietly and successfully feeding San Diegans what San Diegans "thought" was good, authentic Mexican food, despite the proximity to the border. It was a smaller volume place than it is now and doing with the founders knew how to do best. It was for a long time the best place to get masa and some people still swear by El Indio masa.

                                                                                                  Time and popularity have not been particularly kind to El Indio. I don't think it's anywhere near as good as it used to be but there was a time when everything truly was made from scratch and really pretty good. That time just isn't now

                                                                                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                    Was there a lot of outdoor activity in san diego in 1947?

                                                                                                    1. re: stevewag23

                                                                                                      I don't know, I wasn't around in 1947 and I don't think that was the point of my comment 8 months ago.

                                                                                                      My parents and grandparents were here then and, yes, they did spent a good deal of time outside. But then again, it's pretty hard to own and operate a chicken ranch (real chickens, not the NV kind) from inside the house.

                                                                                                      We did spend a lot of time outside growing up whether it was playing, riding bikes, going to the park, the mountains, the beach. When we were in school or in the house because it was dark we were outside. Remember, this was the era before video games and TV was still black and white.

                                                                                                    2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                      Hi Diva, I agree with you. There are still a few stand outs, crispy delux beef no sour cream extra guac, beef flautas, huevos abanil (think I spelled that wrong), machaca. And about a year or two ago, they started charging for salsa when you get take out. You can only get two per entree. That is a rip off. Lindy

                                                                                                    3. re: Josh

                                                                                                      Josh, how do you know it has never been good? Did you eat there in the 40s.....or 50s.....or 60s....or even 70s?

                                                                                                      1. re: Encinitan

                                                                                                        Fair enough - I didn't eat there in the '40s. I did eat there in the early-mid '80s, and don't remember it being memorable at all. I ate there maybe once in the '90s, and felt the same way. Last time I was there was around '00 and same deal.

                                                                                                        1. re: Josh

                                                                                                          Looks like mediocre food is still very popular - the lines are still long and out the door, just like in the late '70s...somehow the Sanchez' have maintained enough quality and taste to keep 'em coming back!

                                                                                                  2. No ones mentioned the Chop Suey - Peking Restaurant in North Park. It has been there since 1931.

                                                                                                    http://chopsueysd.blogspot.com/

                                                                                                    As to ones I miss, I loved the German place in La Jolla Shores that is now Piatti's. I used to ride my bike there in summer to get their sandwiches.

                                                                                                    And how about this menu from the Del circa 1900.

                                                                                                    http://menus.nypl.org/menu_pages/434

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                                                                                                    1. re: scottca075

                                                                                                      I used to go to Chop Suey when I was a little girl..blast from the past..

                                                                                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                        I think the German place was called Bratskeller? Or maybe it was Rhineskeller. That was a long time ago

                                                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                          Bratskeller it was; spent lots of nights there when I was but a UCSD college lad in the mid-70's. King Henry's Feast was our usual order...

                                                                                                          1. re: sordftr

                                                                                                            Had a Feast at the Bratskellar for my 21st birthday. But I thought it was further up in the village, maybe where Chucks Steakhouse was?

                                                                                                            1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                              Bratskellar's is where George's at the Cove is located..
                                                                                                              Gosh, I miss Chuck's Steakhouse..that was across the breezeway.

                                                                                                              Loved going to the LJ Shores German restaurant..what was the name of that place.

                                                                                                              1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                That's it.

                                                                                                                I knew someone who was significantly older than I at the time would remember.

                                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                    On a roll here. A 1976 menu at Bratskellar has a bratwurst plate that included hot red cabbage and hot German potato salad, plus Bavarian black bread, all for $2.75, until 3 pm.

                                                                                                                  2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                    BC, the LJ Shores place was called The Rhinelander. Spent a lot of time there in the mid-70's.

                                                                                                                    1. re: mcgrath

                                                                                                                      ding ding ding ding ding...winner chicken dinner!

                                                                                                                      Had a fake ID and we'd go and get steins of beers..in the 80's..fakey!

                                                                                                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                        Ahhh yes the fake ID....the memories.... except I used mine at the Jersey Shore way before it became Snookiefied.

                                                                                                                        1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                          I love you Beach Chick. That's what I always say in Vegas. I saw that movie "21" and it has always been in my head. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner. That was a based on a true story actually. Lindy ps One of the origional team is a famous poker player now, he went to MIT and was on the team, Andy Bloch

                                                                                                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                  Hi Diva,

                                                                                                                  There was also a German Deli/restaurant called Ingrid's on Convoy. They were there a very long time, long gone now. They had GREAT, authentic food and a bit of a grocery store. The neighborhood totally changed, even before they closed.

                                                                                                                  L

                                                                                                              2. re: scottca075

                                                                                                                Still going strong since the 20's, but parking has become difficult. We've been enjoying their basic Cantonese plates for almost 20 years, shortly after moving to North Park. It is a family run operation. We love their tomato beef chow mein and walnut shrimp. It's that's comfortable old shoe of a place you can count on for take-out Chinese. Call them and they'll take it out to you curbside on a busy parking night.

                                                                                                              3. Some places that haven't been mentioned yet:

                                                                                                                Adam's Steak and Eggs - this was my groups standard Sunday morning hangover recovery place after going to Crystal T's, Flannahan's or Aspen Mine Company the night before, carne asada and eggs was $2.89 during the disco era.
                                                                                                                La Pinata - this was around Old Town long before Dianne Powers took over.
                                                                                                                Etna Restaurant has been around at least since the 70's. It looked ancient then.
                                                                                                                Ponce's in Kensington has been around since at least the 70's.

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                                                                                                                2836 Juan St, San Diego, CA 92110

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                                                                                                                1. re: mikec

                                                                                                                  Flannahan's is obviously a conflation of Hoolihan's and Flannigan's. I guess I lost more brain cells in that era than I knew...

                                                                                                                2. Anyone remember a place in east county called 'd Angeles? or Angelos? Went there as a very small kid...where was it?

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                                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                    DeAngelis was way out on E. Main St. in EC, past Pepper Dr. The elderly gentleman who owned the place would stroll through the dining room singing Italian opera.

                                                                                                                  2. Pinnacle Peak in Santee. Went there once in 1975 and got the toughest steak I've ever had in my life.

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                                                                                                                    1. re: mikec

                                                                                                                      Yes, but your tie was cut off, so...

                                                                                                                      1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                        I wish I'd worn a tie, it would have been more tender than the steak.

                                                                                                                        1. re: mikec

                                                                                                                          and the advantage of a smaller portion.

                                                                                                                      2. re: mikec

                                                                                                                        Did you know, it's still there and, apparently, doing well

                                                                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                          Must be all that outdoor activity in that part of the county.

                                                                                                                          1. re: Josh

                                                                                                                            So "outdoor activity" is our new catch phrase? Great! If somebody finds a way to meaningfully combine that with the hype machine, Ed Hardy clothing, and striped shirted mortgage brokers, I'll call it a day.

                                                                                                                            1. re: RB Hound

                                                                                                                              What's important to remember is that outdoor activity is not very popular in Berlin.

                                                                                                                              1. re: Josh

                                                                                                                                Let the record reflect I did not offer that tired tidbit as part of the discussion.

                                                                                                                                That typed, the outdoor activities available to San Diegans are not of the same quality as those in New York, Chicago, San Francisco and ******.

                                                                                                                                1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                  I felt it was necessary for the sake of completeness. It need never be mentioned again.

                                                                                                                          2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                            Sure. It was packed when I went there in 1975 and its parking lot is full every time I've passed by it since then. Every time I do, I shake my head in wonderment. But it's hardly the only restaurant that causes me to do that.

                                                                                                                            1. re: mikec

                                                                                                                              Hi mikec,

                                                                                                                              If you see the parking lot packed, I bet the cars are from the Omlett Factory right at the other end of the parking lot. Pin. Peak needs to close so we can get a GOOD rest. in there.

                                                                                                                              Lindy

                                                                                                                            2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                              Is Mulvaney's still around in EC/Lakeside area?
                                                                                                                              Loved when it was in PB..along with my fave, TD Hays..
                                                                                                                              Hydra is another blast was one of the best in Cardiff..

                                                                                                                              1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                The location is still there (Santee), the building (a old military building) interior is pretty much the same, but they've changed the name a few times... now it is Lacey J's Roadhouse Saloon and Grill. Live music, dancing, pretty good food, taco Tuesdays...

                                                                                                                              2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                Hi Diva, I never sleep, so getting caught up on posts tonight. Ate at Pinnacle Peak about 2 years ago and it sucked. Bad service and very bad food. I will never go back. Huge place and not crowded. I ate there a lot 20 - 30 years ago, but it is not the same. Lindy

                                                                                                                            3. How is the food at the Red Fox Room? I just moved in around the corner, and am curious.

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                                                                                                                              1. re: jmtreg

                                                                                                                                OK, not great. Pretty much like a steak place out of the 70's. The piano bar is a slice on Friday or Saturday night.

                                                                                                                                1. re: jmtreg

                                                                                                                                  mikec nailed it. It was good enough years ago if you wanted to put down cheap drinks at the Red Fox and grab some average steak or shrimp late night, but now there are so many other options in the area with far better food. last time I got some late night food there I was surprised at the prices being high for the quality of the food.

                                                                                                                                  Piano bar can still be pretty fun, even though Shirley has departed us.

                                                                                                                                2. Cool article about the old Rheinlander and its founder/owner (who recently died):

                                                                                                                                  http://www.lajollalight.com/2012/02/2...

                                                                                                                                  1. Anyone know if El Porvenir has re-opened?

                                                                                                                                    1. I haven't waded through all of the posts to see whether someone has already posted this, so just in case, check this out:

                                                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp...

                                                                                                                                      If you've never been there, The Chicken Pie Shop is a very old San Diego tradition. But I don't think the full chicken pie dinner is still $1.10 any more. But I'm pretty sure it's still good!

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                                                        Ah yes, the Chicken Pie Shop. I've been there once, and ordered the chicken pie (of course), and found it to be fairly good - good crust, good enough filling, and good gravy. It was everything I expected. On the other hand, my significant other ordered the pasta primavera (don't ask me why, as I have no idea what possessed my s.o.), and it was awful. That said, the place is cheap, and really old.

                                                                                                                                        Also, have we mentioned Ruford's? I went there for the first time about a week or so ago, and their menus have a picture of JFK driving by the restaurant, which is cool. On the other hand, its basically diner fare.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: jmtreg

                                                                                                                                          It isn't "old." It's simply time travel. When you go there to eat, you're having dinner in the 1940s! And you didn't even have to beam up. '-)

                                                                                                                                          1. re: jmtreg

                                                                                                                                            Oh Man Jmtreg,
                                                                                                                                            I was there when JFK came here when I was 4. I will always remember it. He went down El Cajon Blvd. Back then, different neighborhood. He was waving side to side, turning. He passed us waving to the other side, so I saw his back. We were standing directly on the curb. I will never forget that day. Thanks for that memory xoxo

                                                                                                                                          2. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                                                            Yep, still around. I've heard varying reports about how good it is or isn't. Back in the day, it was good.

                                                                                                                                            http://sdpieshop.menutoeat.com/

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Caroline1

                                                                                                                                              Pie dinner is $7.50 now and I like it. Carb overload, but they make their own crusts (the chicken pie crusts are different from the dessert pie crusts) and rolls. I crave the coleslaw and appreciate the pies being only meat and gravy.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Cathy

                                                                                                                                                The rolls at the Chicken Pie Shop are wonderful. We get them for Thanksgiving because, with all the other cooking to do, the last thing I want to make is bread. Apparently, I'm not alone because, when you go to pick them up, there are literally hundreds of orders of rolls sitting there waiting to be picked up. And they make great little turkey sandwiches the next day.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: Cathy

                                                                                                                                                  Have to agree about the rolls. The closest thing to the ones my grandmother made that I can find. Once in awhile I have the craving and stop in for a half dozen to go. yum!!

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Ms. Verde

                                                                                                                                                    Hi, Still Okay food for a very decent price. I ask for extra gravy and mix the veges in. They did a bad thing now and have changed their roll recipe. They are not the same anymore. I loved them. Now, yuck. I don't know why they would change it after so long. We still eat there every couple of months. My Mom ate at the very tiny one, the origional one, when she was a girl, maybe 63 years ago or so. Nite, Lindy

                                                                                                                                              2. Napoleone Pizza House in National City (I think it opened in the 50's and Tom Waits worked there)
                                                                                                                                                Hernanez Hideaway if it is still out there on Del Dios Hwy

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                                                                                                                                                1. I remember Azteca on El Cajon Boulevard, Casa Blanca in Old Town, Our Perry's Pizza (the first square pan pizza), and Leonardo's on El Cajon Blvd and 70th. I recall the wonderful aroma of authentic Italian food at Leonardo's. Other favorites include Pernicano's, Anthony's, Hamburger House, and Consuelo's in La Mesa with their delicious quesadilla appetizer. When I was in high school at Crawford we used to walk to Azteca for the special '10 rolled tacos for $1'. Those were the days. Today I live in Oregon and even though northwest cuisine is scrumptious I still miss the places I ate as a child and teenager. And don't forget DiMille' s Pizza and the flying saucer at El Juan's in National City.

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                                                                                                                                                  1. re: kshaleus

                                                                                                                                                    - DeMille's is still open and doing well.

                                                                                                                                                    - Azteca was across the street from the Aspen Mine Company, spent many an evening there after a night of drinking.

                                                                                                                                                    - Leonardos lasted a good long time.

                                                                                                                                                    - Our Perry's Pizza, that was some pretty good pizza

                                                                                                                                                    - We went to the Casa Blanca on La Mesa Blvd. We loved that complimentary app - the crispy flour tortilla with melted cheese - I've managed to recreate a pretty decent version of it. Nothin' fancy, but it is a taste of childhood, which makes it so good :-)

                                                                                                                                                    - There are 3 Anthony's left, the one in La Mesa is the most consistent and even it isn't so great any more.

                                                                                                                                                    - There is 1 Pernicano's left and old George Pernicano still refuses to give up his 3% ownership of the Chargers. His Casa di Baffi on 6th between University and Robinson is still there, still closed and still an eyesore.

                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for the walk down memory lane :-)

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                      Aspen Mine Company...lots of drinking..toga parties..they served food didn't they?
                                                                                                                                                      Casa Blanca..was that the one by Drew Ford at the end of LM blvd..that cheese crisp was awesome..
                                                                                                                                                      Pernicano's in Hillcrest...when is George going to clean up that hot mess in Hillcrest..that just so wrong!
                                                                                                                                                      Aetna Pizza is still there and still really good..had lunch with Stephen Bishop at that Mex restaurant on El Cajon blvd by Crawford HS..what was the name of that place?

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                        I think AMC served food, but I wouldn't know about that ;-). I usually only made it into the bar (and their bartenders were not real good about remembering to ask for ID ;-D)

                                                                                                                                                        Casa Blanca was on LM Blvd. between Uni and El Cajon on the east side of the street. I can still drive to but I couldn't, if my life depended on it, tell you what is there now. I don't think the building is a restaurant any more.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                          Aspen Mine Co. was mostly a steak place (at least that's mostly what I remember ordering there). Decent steaks. Though they didn't have to be that great after a couple of Zombies... Don't remember any Toga Parties, but those were probably right after "Animal House" came out (1978) and that was right around the time I stopped going regularly.

                                                                                                                                                          I was wondering if by "Hamburger House" the OP meant "Hamburger Hamlet" which was in front of Hoover High on ECB.

                                                                                                                                                          I think George Pernicano is still lucid enough that his family can't sell off that property and George doesn't want to let go of it for less than an absurd amount (about 3x what it's worth). That was what I'd heard from a friend who made a serious inquiry about two or three years ago.

                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                          Toga parties- got pics?

                                                                                                                                                          I think the place at the end of LMB near the Roundhouse of Values is Consuelos.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                            Roundhouse of Values...great marketing still lodged in the cerebral cortex..

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                              Well, in all fairness- not just ANY cerebral cortex ; )

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                You're sporting one hell of a cerebral cortex..you got that going for you...which is nice.

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                            Hi Beach Chick,
                                                                                                                                                            Yes, AMC served some mighty fine food, delicious.
                                                                                                                                                            Casa Blanca, never got to try it. I think it is Mariettas now, not so good, been there for a long time.
                                                                                                                                                            George is being forced by the city to clean up his act, and they are forcing him to sell or put it back into a useful state. It is for sale right now. I just read about it last week.
                                                                                                                                                            I don't know what mex place you are talking about but was over there by the HS all the time at the JCC Bye

                                                                                                                                                          3. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                            Diva,
                                                                                                                                                            How do you know so much about so much like I do? We could be sisters : ) Di Milles opened a second location for about 7 years in La Mesa in the shopping center now where Outback is, It was down the row. Corner of Baltimore and Lk. Murray. It was so nice because we didn't have to drive all the way to Adams. Now, I will certainly drive for the best lasagna in the city, in my opinion.

                                                                                                                                                            I still like the Anthonys in La Mesa but I make sure to say, I want a fat one and not well done. The guys in the kitchen always over cook the fresh fish , like the halibut. If you are going to pay that much, I want it nice. And the cole slaw is still the same and excellent. The baked potato, not so much.

                                                                                                                                                            Leonardos, we ate there all the time, dine in, not take out. YUM is all I will say. Later, I got take out some times but they pre made their antipastos. So I learned to ask them to make it fresh and they would. I miss how good it was.

                                                                                                                                                            I posted below, the city is forcing him to sell the property of Pern. and Baffi. Now the price is way too high, but he will come down, he has no choice but to sell. Took the city a darn long time, I would say. Bye L

                                                                                                                                                          4. re: kshaleus

                                                                                                                                                            El Juan's...and the Pink Pig across the street...woooo hoooooo!

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: kshaleus

                                                                                                                                                              Yes! Consuelos! I STILL miss that quesadilla (but we favored the one near Hillcrest). Old and theme-y were: Chuy's in a (basically) a quonset near "Chicano Park," Mexican Village in Coronado, and Miyako's.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                Wasn't Aztec the next street over...didn't it just have a fire..

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                  The Aztec was a family operated restaurant with two locations. As far as I know, both have been closed for years. :(

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Irish gal

                                                                                                                                                                    It was right at the southern end of what is now the Old
                                                                                                                                                                    Town Trolley Station, the Empanadas they had there were
                                                                                                                                                                    excellent.

                                                                                                                                                                2. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                  I still get cravings for The Aztec! I wish they would have written a cookbook. There were two Aztec restaurants in Old Town. I loved their bean burritos with cheese sauce, guacamole tacos and suprema tostados. I lived in San Diego in the '70's and they were the best cheap eats in town.

                                                                                                                                                                  If anyone knows any of the recipes, please let me know!

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: OCAnn

                                                                                                                                                                    Yoshino's, forgot about that place. How's the food now? Went there first time I visited San Diego in the 80's and had some tasty sesame chicken.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. Two long-gone greats that I remember fondly are Olinda's (started near Morena, then moved over by Old Town) and Don Jose's on El Cajon Blvd. At Don Jose I remember the "community" salsa vat on the table. Never got sick. That wouldn't fly today...

                                                                                                                                                                    Dan
                                                                                                                                                                    http://foodobs.wordpress.com/

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                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Dce88

                                                                                                                                                                      Hi Dan,
                                                                                                                                                                      We used to eat at Don Jose's twice a month when we grew up. Back then, I didn't get to order or choose. I wish I could have but my parents ordered for me, what they liked. I started there young. My mom went to Hoover. She told me a story about when she was young and her parents took her there for the first time. Her mom did not know what salsa was and took a big bite to taste. Well you have eaten there, she must have almost had a heart attack. HOT HOT. Wish I had the recipe. Cute story. Wish I could go again. Take care, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                    2. Nicolosi's, gone but not forgotten.

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                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: cristina

                                                                                                                                                                          Nicolosi's is up the street and around the block from my house :-). Within walking distance...

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                            According to today's Mission Trails Courier, Nicolosi's will open a 2nd location on 2nd St. in El Cajon in February

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                              confession..don't think I've have ever eaten at the Nicolosi's.
                                                                                                                                                                              too many toga parties at Aspen Mine Company..hee hee

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                Those were the days, weren't they ;-D

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, they were..
                                                                                                                                                                                  So glad we got to live them in all their glory.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                    San Diego in the 70s was glorious :-) And no one cared if their burrito had rice and beans in them or not.

                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                Diva, I just posted and now I just read yours. I am on Boulder Lake. We have got to meet for lunch, You love food as much as me. I didn't really understand how to use this posting thing. What else can I do in the middle of the night when I am awake. I grew up in this neighborhood. Did you go to Henry? We must be just blocks from each other. I went to Gage, Pershing, Henry, graduated 76. What about you? Lindy I have lived on Forrestal for 3 years, a bout 4 years ago, and earlier when our house burned down we lived in those terrible appartments right next to Fish Merchant. Archway then, I think. Thats another story.

                                                                                                                                                                              3. re: cristina

                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, Nicolosi's is an institution as well...Last I saw off of Waring Rd. Standout for me was the "relish tray" (or whatever they called it) they put out with everything. The cheese slices, pepperoncini, and what not...

                                                                                                                                                                                Dan
                                                                                                                                                                                http://foodobs.wordpress.com

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Dce88

                                                                                                                                                                                  Nicolosi's is in El Cajon now just across from the El Cajon courthouse and the Downtown Cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: cristina

                                                                                                                                                                                  Nicolosis is NOT gone. Some family members reopened with the SAME recipes right down the street from me. Some things were a bit changed, menu choices and such. It took a couple months, they bought the property where the long lasting Fish Merchant on Navajo Rd was, and they are there. I had lunch there 7 weeks ago or so. I heard they opened a second location in El Cajon not long ago. The food is mostly the same, good. Expensive, very. Best cheese Ravioli, but as good as they are, I just won't pay 17 or 18 for a small plate of ravioli.There are even some of the old waitresses that I knew from the old place, Pam and Linda. It's really all too expensive, but they have to pay the mortgage on the property, and where they are, it not cheap. So the food had to go up. Bread good as always. No little salami and cheese and peppers anymore with entree.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                    In deed, LindyN, when Nicolosis moved to Navajo the did substantially raise their prices. We went to the Waring Rd. location many, many times, but no longer. We now go to Demille's, or Volare's in Pt. Loma. Good, not always great, Italian, but abundant and well worth the money.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: onemagicman

                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi Onemagicman,
                                                                                                                                                                                      I like your name.
                                                                                                                                                                                      We were SO very sad when Sam closed that place down. He had so many long time regulars. It was on the news, even. We ate there the last three nights in a row, because we never thought they would reopen. We waited in HUGE HUGE lines each night. I am still glad we did it. They kept running out of bread.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Sam closed because the owner of the property wanted to raise his rent, way too much. And he also wanted to retire. I think if the rent hadn't been such a problem, he would still be there. I hope he is happy now. Do you remember the super displays he would put up for Christmas and Halloween. He just loved holidays. He would set up that ghost or something to fly on a string all the way across the restaurant, up above. All the Halloween decorations were so nice. And at Christmas, he would even take away two tables, at the busy season, so he could set up that whole holiday scene for all of his customers.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I wish the prices were less now, I would go more. And the new place doesn't do the chicken catchitori (sp? this is wrong) Now, that was DELISH.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I think Di Milles has the best lasagna in town. I just love it. How long have you been eating there? And the chicken marsala is the best around now, great sauce. Order it the "old" way with the chicken cut up. Now they serve a whole breast, the old way was much better. And I always ask for extra sauce and muchrooms, pasta on another plate. Boy, I must be neurotic (sp?)

                                                                                                                                                                                      Night, L

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                        Hi LindyN, We would go to Nicolosi's every Christmas and get a table looking directly at the Christmas tree. Otherwise, where the tree stood was one of our favorite tables (removed, of course for the tree.) you sat against the wall and could see the whole restaurant. We went to the restaurant, I think next to the last night before they closed, and it seemed we waited a long time for a table. Quite a tribute to Sam. I can still see him behind the Cannoli counter when you walked in. I always had the "crazy chicken" (Chicken Gorgonzola, and once in awhile the lasagna, which I felt was one of the better. They put fennel in their home made sausage and I like that flavor. I also remember the night Sam rolled back the prices to the prices to the 1950 prices. We have been going to Demilles for over 20 years, almost always use a coupon. If you have not gone try Volare in the Pt. Loma area. It is right down from the old main Post Office, on Bancroft St. Worth the trip. (I am an armature Magician, hence the name.) Take care.

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: onemagicman

                                                                                                                                                                                          Morning,
                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, he was a character. He always wore those, Hawaiian like shirts. I never had that particular chicken there, don't like gorgz. My favorite, still is, I think the best in san diego is the cheese ravoli. Huge and filled full of sweet cheese. Even how much I love them, I won't pay $17 or $18 for them at the new location.
                                                                                                                                                                                          We live out of the area of DiMille's so we never get coupons in the mail for there. Wish we did. We would go more, do have a good lunch special, though. They always had one in the Ent book, we used that.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Volare, been there dozens of times. They were always in the Entertainment book too. And even at regular price I couldn't understand how they could keep their prices so low. I had a girl friend who first moved into Liberty Station. When I went to her house, we usually went there for pizza and pasta, great meat sauce. They own the building, I don't know if the older lady is still alive, but I thought she lived upstairs. Everything there is real good.
                                                                                                                                                                                          I love magic. There have been some good new magic shows on TV lately. That is so fun. Did you watch America's Got Talent the last few months and for the first time ever, the magiciann won. He deserved it.
                                                                                                                                                                                          Have a great day, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                            On a rare occasion, when I was "batching it" I often went to Nicolosi's and sat at the bar and enjoyed a meal watching TV. I graduated in 1963 in NJ. Again, our new favorite is Volare' We always ask for Sara our waitress. There is a "young man" there whose name is Cosmo, and when asked he said he was one of the owners. We always start out with a large antipasti salad, a liter of house Chianti and an entrée. Life is good! I watched intently AGT and Mat Falco winning the competition. I now follow him on Face Book, and this is a whole new experience for him. He is from New England and seems - based on his new exposure - in Las Vegas, etc. a real nice guy. While I understand his "magic" quite well, he is a master having been interested in magic since he was 4 years old. We always use the entertainment book and have one auto shipped each year. It is amazing how much you can save with BOGO. The Reader is also a good source for coupons. Have a nice weekend.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: onemagicman

                                                                                                                                                                                              Hi Magic,
                                                                                                                                                                                              I haven't been to Volare for a very long time now : ( My friend moved 8 blocks away from me and then to Arizona : ( She was a great eating buddy. Maybe the young man is the son?
                                                                                                                                                                                              When Matt won, I was so happy. I don't do facebook, what is it saying. I figured out how he did the phone in the seat trick and a couple of others, but he is so amazing. I hope he gets his own show in vegas like Terry Fator did at the Mirage. I would love to go see a whole show of them. On AGT they talk about the winner getting a show in vegas. Actually, they all, the top ones,do a show there for two nights, and the winner gets the most time on stage. That would be a fun show to see. So, I hope he gets his OWN show. There are a lot of magic shows in vegas, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Bye, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                3. How about Miyako's Japanese restaurant that was in the same location as China Camp? Amazing, "went every Friday" food.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. Craving the Kung Pao at Mandarin House in LJ..

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                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                      I've seen the local cats wink at the chef while walking by the back door!

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: cstr

                                                                                                                                                                                        Ha..those kitty Cats were winking at me!

                                                                                                                                                                                        ; )

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                          Ha. Chuck likes to go get takeout there (blech). Every time he walks in the hostess girls ask him "how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood". Then the owner gives him a free tsing tao beer.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Chuck likes silly things. And being recognized.

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                        I LOVE their Kung Pao Beef! It's pretty much all I ever order when we're there. That & a Scorpion Bowl, that is.

                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Unfortunately, Ocean Fresh Seafood’s in La Jolla, one of my favorites, closed many decades ago. It's a surf board shop now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Jakespizza

                                                                                                                                                                                          Loved loved loved Ocean Fresh and several restos have gone in and have all failed..rumor, was built on sacred Indian burial ground.

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                            I knew the guy who owned Ocean Fresh--and his whole family. Great people, sad story. He died of brain cancer, very young.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Link: http://www.mexicocooks.typepad.com

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: cristina

                                                                                                                                                                                              Met he and his family a long time ago..
                                                                                                                                                                                              Wonderful people and very sorry to hear about his brain cancer.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Ocean Fresh was a fab restaurant and is still missed to this day...tenant improvements were high end and I can still see the inside like it was yesterday..

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Remember the Atlantis next to Sea World?
                                                                                                                                                                                          My BF worked with the whales and we would party with the water ski team and go over in the bucket ride that dropped right to the resto.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Good times...we ruined it
                                                                                                                                                                                          for the kids today.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                            What year are you talking about? I went to the Atlantis when it first opened. It was the new high class restaurant in San Diego, on a par with Mr. A's

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                              It was very much on par with Mr. A's and Lubach's.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Mid 70s..Atlantis had a great lounge/bar with some great singers..one of the best brunches.

                                                                                                                                                                                              We all had fake ID's and driving our xke's, thinking we were all that!

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                Then you must have known La Jolla as well. Remember the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club? I used to hang out there. The Marine Room was a very fine restaurant just outside the City of San Diego.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                    The LJB&TC is still a fine place and the Marine Room still a local favorite. I remember when the Sea Lodge, now LJ Shores Hotel was part of the club.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: scottca075

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi, Now, Sea Lodge had a great buffet, and then we would walk down to the tide pools. Marine Room is a classic, the best. Bye

                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Atlantis menu, 1976: Roast rack of lamb, $6.95. Breast of capon sauté muscot garnished with sliced mushrooms, artichoke bottoms, shallots, and white wine, $5.75

                                                                                                                                                                                                    That's all, folks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oooooh!! I had the breast of capon with all those wonderful sides. $5.75? That was a lot of money to me back then.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. re: Hughlipton

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have a vague memory of Atlantis being up and running as early as around 1966, when I would have attended a high school event there one night. Or maybe it was just at the Atlantis location before it became Atlantis. Either way, it certainly did have the fine dining reputation when it opened as Atlantis.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  4. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, I remember taking the ride over there. I wouold have never thought of that. Good food too. Thanks, L

                                                                                                                                                                                                  5. Anyone remember ..."Florentino's Italian Restaurant", corner of La Jolla Blvd and turquoise street? Anyone remember the great food, entertainment, and the piano bar and the great opera singing there?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. What about the Butcher Shop?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Anyone remember Bull Weavel? Your tie was cut off if you wore one. My dad would wear one just for the fun of having it cut off.....1968?
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, Bali Hai, Ceasars, Leonardo's and Anthony's Fish Grottoin La Mesa.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Mctrk05

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bali Hai is still in business as is Anthony's Fish Grotto in La Mesa. I think it was Pinnacle Peak that cut the tie off.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                            There is still a Pinnacle Peak in Santee.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Dagney

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes there is, I still drive by it with some regularity :-D

                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Morning,
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Bali Hai is still around but the owner certainly ruined it. They took the best dishes off the menu and it will never be the same. I cannot imagine going there and not being able to select and eat Oyster Beef. It was the best dish there. Sometimes we would drive up to their little pier, my parents had a boat, and we walk in from that side. Later, my son loved the Chicken Of The Gods. That has long been off the menu too.
                                                                                                                                                                                                              About 20 years ago I was lucky enough to meet a wonderful man who owned a small delicious dive of a Mexican Restaurant. He was head chef for 20 years at Bali Hai. He gave me the recipe for Chicken of the Gods, but I lost it in a house fire 12 years ago, sad. And they had a very nice lunch buffet back then. Still great view, but I will never go back.
                                                                                                                                                                                                              Have a great day, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ownership of the Bali Hai hasn't changed

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi Diva, And she ownes Tom Hams too. L

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Can't remember the name of the steak house where they cut your tie off but it wasn't the Boll Weevil. The Boll Weevil might still be there on Mission Gorge Road? It was the first place that let you put your own toppings on their fantastic hamburgers. Speaking of hamburgers, I'd kill for a Char Burger! Tiny, tiny little drive thru's with barbequed burgers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: kshaleus

                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.bollweevilrestaurants.com/ Five locations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              The one on Mission Gorge closed and has re-opened, one block East.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: kshaleus

                                                                                                                                                                                                                'Can't remember the name of the steak house where they cut your tie off'

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Pinnacle Peak

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  In Santee, right? We went there soon after moving to San Diego, 1980.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Loved taking the car ferry over from Coronado to SD..
                                                                                                                                                                                                                (That is probably the love for the water taxi)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                We'd go to a place in IB, called the Red Hawk, that had the best Roquefort dressing and they would give me 20+ cherries with my Shirley Temple.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hands down, Lubachs was one of the best restaurants in SD..
                                                                                                                                                                                                                What was the name of the pizza place with piano player?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Shakeys.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  "They have fun at Shakeys, also pizza"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hi, My girlfriend and I would ride our bikes, every week, over to the one in the shopping center, corner of Navajo and Fletcher Pwky and split a Large Pepperoni. We did that from Jr High thru High School. But in 11th and 12th grade we had cars. I wish I could do that now. She just passed so this brought me a smile remembering that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bye

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Coronado ferry was referred to as the "Nickle Snatcher".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am sorry to say that the last meal we had at the Red Hook a few years ago was bad - the steak was full of gristle and when we complained, the waiters were nasty and and offensive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Looking on Y+++, they are listed as closed/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hi Beach Chick,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        We would take that ferry over every few months for a fun day.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Do you remember the Cotton Patch right off Rosecrans. They would give me cherries like that too. Very dark in there, very grown up, best creamy garlic dressing I ever had, I remember. Best steaks ever. After all these posts, I guess I have eaten out a lot, lol. Does anyone remember Cotten Patch?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Gustaf Anders, especially the "Easter Smörgåsbord".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Gypsy Jan

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I cried for a month when Gustaf Anders closed in South Coast Village. Their holiday/Mother's Day Smörgåsbords were the most amazing things ever.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I used to bump into Gustaf on the boardwalk at Main Beach in Laguna Beach walking his dogs every so often.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: scottca075

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hi again,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, that was the best. Back when I was first married we had a grocery supply/produce business and we delivered there. That man was so skilled and a class act. Bye

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. I haven't seen anyone mention "Jose Murphy's" in PB? As a dive bar/restarant/rock music venue, there weren't much better.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: abailz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wow, I am late to this post. Great reading and good memories.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ceasars is the first rest. that I would mention. How I miss their spag with that brownish sauce. Just had one location when I was a girl and then opened several more. I would pay $100. for a plate of it now. I WISH. And the dressing on their antip. salad was to die for. I ate there every week on the way home from bowling when early 20's. Does anyone, please, have any idea how to make that sauce? I think it must have been a combo of some kind of a beef gravy and tom sauce and the ground beef with a potato masher to get it that fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Saskas, yes. That was the first 'grown-up' rest. that my parents ever took me to. Steak of course. But I didn't get to order. My parents thought well done was the way to get steak. Leather. I never knew better, or any other way. Now I know what a steak should taste like.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What about the old Top Shelf in La Mesa. YUMMY. They had the best green goddess salad dressing on their small salad bar. Anthony's across the frwy from there, I have eaten there forever and still do. Smaller portions and expensive but the cole slaw is great as ever. AND THE VIEW!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Fidel's, memories. We went when I was so young for so long. Again, I didn't get to order. I got 1/2 suprema (tostada) and it was so good. Along with the chips and great salsa. It wasn't until I was in my teens that I went there, got to read the menu, and order what I wanted. YUM. I love their chili rellanos with extra sauce. They charge you for it, but worth it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Don Jose's Boy, that's a long time ago. Again, I never got to order. My Mom told me a story of the first time SHE went, maybe 70 yrs ago and her Mom didn't know what the salsa was and took a big bite to taste it. For those of you who do not know, it was hot enough to blow your head off. All fresh ingreds. and so good. It is long gone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            There was a middle eastern place in OB very near the pier that had the best falafal and shawarma. I have never been able to find anything even close to that for 30 years. Anyone have any suggestions? I am near La Mesa now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for letting me talk. This was a fun memory.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Top Shelf, yes. Great steaks. It's the Brig now...and much remodeled :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Consuelo's for the complimentary (Sonoran-style, tho we didn't know it was Sonoran-style at the time) cheese crisp. I still make those occasionally

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi, I just love a cheese crisp. There is a darn good one at El Indio. You can just get it plain with cheese or deluxe with meat/chicken, lett, tom, guac, sour cream. Wow, now I have to go there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Also, Perry's Cafe (El Cajon and the old location near Old Town) has a great one, huge. You have to order the guac in addition, but their salsa is GREAT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Brig, nah, too crowded, too noisy, not great food. Miss my dressing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Where is Consuelo's?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Consuelo's is l-o-n-g gone. There was one in La Mesa, one in Hillcrest and I think one in La Jolla

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  OMG!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Top Shelf was for the refined gussied up crowd of Mt. Helix, where I grew up.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Besides, Lubach's which I LOVED when I was a kid.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Anthony's La Jolla with the big clam entrance was a fave for me where Sharper Image building is now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    OMG...forgot that the Anthony's in LJ had that clam shell entrance. That was so cool...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi Beach Chick,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't remember Top Shelf being fancy. I remember wearing regular pants. Back then girls didn't really wear jeans. My family went there often and loved it. We lived in San Carlos, not far. Still do.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I never went to Anthony's La Jolla, always La Mesa. Unless there was company in town and we would take them down to the bay location. For the view. I like La Mesa and the lake. Oh, what was the name of the restaurant right next to Anthony's on the bay, the fancy one. They are hooked together. Star of the Sea Room. I always got lobster. Best ever. And if you got there early you could sit by the window. They are closed now and only do catering I think or maybe small private parties.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I went to Lubach's only once. I had a big date with this guy I met when I was in Palm Springs with a girlfriend for a short vacation when I was about 22. She was somewhat older and wiser and we met these guys at the bar and had dinner with them. My guy was the editor or publisher of TV Guide back then. He was from the East Coast, prob NY, and he would fly out to see me. He was older. The first visit he took me to Lubach's. The service was the best, but the food didn't impress me. I prefered Mr. A's back then. Great food, great view. And Imperial house, that was and is, a classy place. Do any of you know/remember Felix. He is a class act. They don't do lunch anymore, sadly. Felix must be retiring soon. I hope they don't close the restaurant. Without him, it will never be the same, however. Best Steak Diane I have ever eaten. No, tie with Elario's in La Jolla. Best service, best food ever, and what a view from the top floor. They have been gone a long time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Bye for now, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Remember George Joe's Chinese restaurant across the freeway, near Anthony's La Mesa? I loved the set dinner feast. Top Shelf was for special dinners, went there with my boyfriend before a high school dance (Helix). I think it was Pernicano's in Lemon Grove where we went after football games, loved the small pepperoni slices. When I was older, Lubach's, The Fountainbleu Room in the Westgate Hotel, and Mr. A's with their footrests and menus without prices were my favorites. I still make the flour tortilla cheese crisp I first had at Casa Blanca on La Mesa Blvd. Great memories.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: naner

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It was Lido's in Lemon Grove, on Broadway.(I don't think there was a Pernicano's in LG) I still go to Lido,s often. The son, Marco, runs the kitchen now and daughter runs the front. It is better that ever. The best thin crust in San Diego, in my opinion. Everybody is picky about exactly how they like their pizza. After our Football Games (in High School, Henry High) we went to Farrells Ice Cream on Jackson Drive, every Friday night. Long gone, fondly remembered.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, Farrell's. The Zoo! Palermo's Pizza, La Mesa.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: naner

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hi, Farrell's - the Pig Trough (sp?) Black and White, Tin Roof. The sirens with the Zoo. Once, only once, as they ran around with that huge stretcher, I saw them dump it on a man in a suit. Bad thing. He was okay, just really messy.We used to love to put money and run the player piano.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Is there a way to spell check on a post I am writing? I am not yet too good at this, but learning.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I never ate at Palermo's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lindy, if you don't mind me asking...what year did you graduate from Henry. I went there too, and yes, I remember Farrell's after games. Longhorn on Mission Gorge and Zion was still fairly new but popular...still is.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I just moved out of the old 'hood 2 weeks ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi, I am still new at how to post here sometimes, mostly, some of my posts have gone under the wrong reply place. I wrote one post directly to you about 8 hours ago saying we must know each other. Or maybe you are my sister, lol. I don't know how to tell you how to find it because overnight (I don't sleep) I learned how to reply to exact post I wanted to. Yes, I remember Longhorn. I live on Boulder Lk. I wrote I graduated in 76. I bet we know each other. I wrote we should meet for lunch. So where did you move to? What was your street over here. I lived on Forrestal off Jackson for about 3 years, about 4 to 7 years ago. That was much later when my daughter was at Henry. Ha, small world. But I grew up on Boulder Lk. I went to Gage, Pershing, Henry. I can't wait to read your reply. Best regards, Lindy
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ps Are you allowed to write your real name on here?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Now my mind is buzzing, the old arby's where the Mexican place is now by Keil's. KFC where the bank is right across the street on Navajo. Sometimes we would ditch school and walk over there.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I remember when they built Gage. And the whole albertons shopping center was not there. Then they built it, but back then it was Safeway. And the corner store was Thrifty's, and boy could we buy a lot of candy with 15 cents when we rode our bikes down there. Do you remember any of this?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I graduated in '71, well before your time there. Yes, I am the resident board dinosaur ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I remember all of it including that Keil's was originally a Big Bear and Windmill Farms in Del Cerro was originally an Alpha Beta. See, told ya I was the board dinosaur :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  We went to the Thrifty's for ice cream not candy and you can still get Thrifty's ice cream in Mexico, but not here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ha! You're just a babe in arms, DD. I graduated HS in '62.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Okay, you can be the senior dinosaur ;-D

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LOL. Yes, I am indeed a certified, card-carrying Old Fart.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        But I haven't lived in SD nearly as long as you and many others on this board have, so much of what you & LindyN are talking about is new (and interesting) to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Trust me, it's only interesting if you lived in what was called the "east county" in the 60s

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What, there was hardly even an east county in the 60's
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks Dr. It has REALLY been fun for me reading all this and remembering, how easy it comes back, sharp and clear, into my mind. Weird, even remember the flavors and what I used to order. And, yes, you get the prize for oldest, I don't agree with the old fart part
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Have a super day, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I get my Thrifty's ice cream at Rite Aid. They don't have the scoops but you can get the not quite half gallons. It isn't the old Carnation ice cream from the 60's but it tastes pretty close to their 80's formula.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hi Stevie,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's exactly where I get mine. I think it is pretty good for the money.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: littlestevie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Carnation, now that was good :-) We usually went to the one that was about a block or so west of where Montezuma meets up with El Cajon Blvd. Loved their hot fudge sundaes, but I loved their Fudge Ana's even better and I'm not a huge banana fan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            After that one closed we trekked down to the one on El Cajon around, what, Louisiana? Busier but not quite the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I remember going to the Carnation at the corner of 30th St. & El Cajon Blvd, not far from where Rudford's still stands.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            HI Diva,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for writing back. You must have gone to Henry very close to it's opening.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I remember the Big Bear. As a matter of fact, I remember when they built that shopping center. And for about 8 years I lived one block from the Alpha Beta and just walked there for groceries. I can still get the Thrifty's ice cream at the Rite Aid by Albertson's.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What area did you move to? I moved to San Carlos in 1961 and my parent's home, well the whole neighborhood, was brand new. They were just starting to build Allied Gardens too. Navajo was a tiny two lane street and basically there was nothing built along it. I remember when the whole area surrounding and including Parkway Plaza was like empty and sort of farm land.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            take care, L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, I was there the day PHHS opened. I, too, watched the Big Bear shopping center being built and have watched the evolution. Try AJs Fish Merchant. Their fish and chips are fantastic, probably the best I've had in SD for quite a while. Their prime rib special is really, really good too, as is the key lime pie. Was sorry to see the original Fish Merchant go, but was not sorry to see Tivoli's go, it's shelf life was about 10 years too long.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My parent purchased their home there in 1968. It was 3 houses to the golf course and a half block to the lake. It was never intended to be a long term residence. My sister and I just closed on the house 2 weeks ago. 45 years was a long time, but it was time to move on. I am in the Kensington area.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Actually, the first homes in Allied Gardens were built in the late 40s in the area right off of Twain & Mission Gorge. It was in the early 50s when Waring Rd was put in that they expanded and started building even more. I am totally amazed at how well Allied Gardens has held up for 50+ years. Most of it is still in pretty good shape. The Foster's Freeze is still there - and good for a dipped cone - and so is one of the last Heavenly Donuts. BIG pass on Brother's, gross.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I hate to tell ya this, but Navajo used to end a few yards past the parking lot entrance to St. Terese ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, I know you can still get Thrifty ice cream at Rite Aid, but it tastes better - closer to childhood memories - on the beach in Mexico

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi Diva,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, it was way past 10 years, way past 20 years, longer, that Tivoli is finally gone. That place was terrible. Started terrible and never got any better. And they never did any business. I thought they used it for money laundering. There was and is a place in Lemon Grove that did that too. A Chinese place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Allied Gardens was starting to be built in 1961, because they compared the two new neighborhoods and picked San Carlos because it was like 2 Grand, or so, less.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Back to Henry. Do you remember the green and gold days? When I went there Annette Benning was a friend. She was tall, thin, and gawky. Her picture is next to mine in the Annual.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The old Fish Merchant WAS good. I never learned why they went out of business.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did you see The Trails Restaurant on Foodnetwork with Robert Irvine?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I used to ride with my friends to the old Foster Freeze on our bikes. It is about now where Papa Johns is on Navajo. One of my daughter’s good friends has worked at the FF on Waring for a long time, maybe 7 years. I still stop there from time to time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Mona Lisa has been there a Long Time. I used to eat there rarely, and only with a 2 for 1 coupon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Brother’s is gross, I agree, and so was every restaurant in that location. Mountain Mike’s is also gross. I was hopefull when I heard they were going into that spot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That’s it for now…… Bye

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Worlds Best Service Station was Stadium Shell at the corner of Zion and Mission Gorge. Most specifically in 1976 and part of 1977 after 3:30 in the afternoon 'til closing at 9.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Regular was 59.9 per gallon with the Most Excellent Windshield Service (at least in the "full-service lane".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Best service station was the Chevron at the corner of Grossmont Center and Fletcher Pkwy in La Mesa during the late 70's and I worked for a Dentist friend (could see both LJS and pay phone) and we got the phone number from the payphone at the gas station and when someone would try and make a call, we would call the # and there was an dirty old Cadillac next door to the pay phone and we'd call the payphone and the person trying to use the payphone would answer the ringing phone and I would ask them to please wake up my Mom, whom was sleeping in the old dilapidated caddy..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    To watch people going over and knocking on the windows and looking in to think they are going to wake up my Mom was priceless..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Plus, we used to call Long John's Silvers and ask for them to stop the people waiting at the bus stop, right in front of LJS and ask them to please go out and stop the certain looking person waiting for the bus that their Mom would pick them up and still can see the Fryer guy in his Chef hat go out and tell the guy at the bus stop not to catch the bus...since we could see what he was wearing and what he looked like..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I still bust gut everytime I think of those good times!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yeah, I know but I've been jonesing to tell those beauties for some time now.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Can I get a witness?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ; )

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ha, we never did that. I am crying now from laughing so hard.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        We would call up that Thrifty's I was talking about earlier, and other places, and ask, "Do you have 'Prince something in a can'? I don't remember the second word, It was chewing tobacco in a can. They would say "yes" and we would say, well you better let him out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I went to the station on Del cerro Blvd when I got my first car at 16. I would say they had great service, but I didn't care. There was a really cute boy I liked, two actually, and they took 'extra' good care of my car : )

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Lido's also is one our go to Italian places. Just passed it this morning going to the Home Depot in LG.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          One of the guys who I used to work with lived down the street and spent his high school years there as a bus boy, etc. I have been there for lunch with him many times, and now he is probably 37 or 38. He has great memories of the owner(s) and how well they treated everyone! AKA one magician.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: wcarpenter01

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have eaten there all the time since I was a child. The children run it now and nothing has changed, taste wise. Marco runs the kitchen and his sister runs the front. I love everything there, but especially the thin crust pizza. I knew many of their waitress very well over the years, Lillian, Rosie (that was terrible when she fell and hurt herself so bad)I think Lillian still works there for some lunches and one dinner a week. One of my daughter's beautiful still life drawings is in their case up front under the cash register, the glass case. Next time you go you can look for it. That was from, maybe 13 years ago. She was so good even then, now, wow!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: wcarpenter01

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I just thought of another one, sadly, long time gone.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Do you remember Tep’s Villa Roma up Clairemont Drive, up the hill from Mission Bay? It was a great Italian Place. Besides remembering how good the chicken marsala was, what really stands out, now, to me, is their antipasto salad bar. It was in a little alcove. You could get all you wanted, salamis (good ones), cheeses, different olives, peppers of several kinds and LOTS more. It was GREAT!! Never had anything like that in san diego, then or now. I went there from, maybe, 1968 thru about 1984 or so when they closed. That was a sad day.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. Anyone ever go to La Fresqueria ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Fake Name

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    No? No downtowners went for lunch?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Anyone else remember Hotel Bar downtown?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The food was so-so, but to me that place is a bit of a sentimental SD legend because of exactly one thing: Their superb, very-fresh-squeezed-lime margaritas. I used to think that those margs were the best to be found anywhere in SD.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    But, that's also where I first had a pour of Jose Cuervo Reserva de la Familia, ca. 1995, one of the finest tequilas to be had and something of a "life-changing event" (cough, cough, ahem) for me. I still have the first bottle of it that I bought (photo) and some of the larger (1.75 liter) bottles. And lots of cool boxes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That's still the only tequila that we sip like cognac out of Mexico-sanctioned tequila glasses:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.atlantasfinestdining.com/h...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Okay, I'll bite. What the h*ll are Mexico sanctioned tequila glasses???

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I attached a picture of one. It's similar in appearance to a champagne flute, but not the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Check out the link I attached, or google for similar articles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Maybe I should have clarified that this glass was designated as the "official" tequila glass by the Tequila Regulatory Council of Mexico, a regulatory body that in turn is sanctioned by the Mexican government.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Amazon sells them, among others.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          First sighting of these in a restaurant a little earlier today at Brooklyn Girl, on the shelf above the taps. Right above the Sculpin, to be exact.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Me to bartender: Are those tequila glasses? Bartender to me: Yes. Real ones.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Ok, I have one, inspired by that new thread for the young lady turning 21...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bobby McGee's in Grossmont Center. My parents took me there for my 16th birthday. The waiter's name was "Dr Midas Welby." I had steak and lobster.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And the old Carlos Murphy's across the parking lot. I spent more than a couple of college evenings there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Dagney

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hi again,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I dont remember the Hotel Bar but how I miss Carlos Murphys. That place was great. They did good business, but I guess the place and the rent was just too much
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And this blog, or whatever you call it, has really got me thinking.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          What about Los Quatro Milpas in Bario Logan. I first went there when I was 20 or so and, I got a good job two or three blocks away. We would get take out every week. The place is a dive. Who cares, clean and the best food. I still go there every few months (it is far for me) and it is the same. DELICIOUS. Very small, very limited menu, order at the counter and they make it right then, hottest sauce (not salsa) you have ever eaten. Cheap. Order the combo rice and beans with whatever else you order. Comes with two of the BEST homemade flour tortillas you have ever eaten.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Does anyone know where to get good Middle Eastern Food around La Mesa please? My fav went out of bus 3 years ago.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Take care,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And hi again to you too, LindyN.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hotel Bar was half a block south of the Old Spaghetti Factory, right on the corner on the same side of the street, right where civilization -- as we knew it at the time -- ended. It was mainly a tourist-type Mexican restaurant, fairly good-sized. But if you sat at the bar, as we always did, a cool atmosphere and the best margs around. We liked it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My de la Familia shot there cost $25, and that was almost 20 years ago. But it was worth it, because it was so exceptionally special, although after that, of course, I bought it by the bottle and drank it at home. Main point being that few places had even heard of it, but Hotel Bar had it on the shelf.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oh, yeah..now I remember that place...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lindy, have you tried Alforon for Lebanese? Almost in La Mesa - very close - and the food is very good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.alforon.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Also, there are a couple of places in El Cajon: Alibaba and Sahara. I've never been disappointed with either restaurant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://sahararestaurantsd.com/
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.alibaba421el.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: phee

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks everyone. This is such fun. I wish more of ya’ll would chime in. DrChow, thanks, you made me remember going here, I am almost sure. I was too young to get a drink then, maybe 47 or 48 years ago, does that sound right? The food was great but I didn’t know about drinks then, and I never cared for teq when I could finally drink or even now. I am a vodka girl. Once you said Spag Factory, I said, oh yes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And then that brought back memories of the MANY dinners I had there until they closed. I just thought it was special, the atmosphere and the food. Now I know what good Italian is and I guess the ‘ specialness’ was just in my mind. Has anybody eaten at the new one they reopened? I have eaten at one 20 years ago or so in another city. It was the same. It was on a long trip to the Sacramento area.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                $25 a shot, way back then was pretty stiff, VERY! Even now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi phee, thanks for responding. I have never heard of Alforno but am checking out the menu now. Sounds good. Thanks for including the links. That is not too far for me at all. What I like best, what I CRAVE, is Chicken and/or Beef Schwarma, and a good Falafel Pita Sandwich. I have eaten at Ali Baba twice. Their homemade pita breads are the very best anywhere but the food was overcooked, dry, and not flavored right for me and my whole group. Oh, my Dad was raving about the pita, but the food was yuck. He still goes there for lunch sometimes. Do you remember what it was before it was Ali Baba? It was a really reasonably priced steak restaurant for a long time. We ate there often. I knew the owner because we ate there so much. It was called Top Sirloin.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I have eaten at Sahara as well. Not quite what I was craving. There used to be a place called Tony’s something in the shopping center where the old Campus Drive In movie theater was. He had to go out of business because they were tearing down the shopping center to make condos. I haven’t been by there since. I thought that was three years ago, but probably more like six or nine. You know how time flies. He made the best BEST chicken schwarma I have ever eaten. It was truly authentic, and so were he and his wife. Their kids were 2 years apart from my daughter and when I went, I would get take out. My daughter used to ride her scooter outside in the front, with their kids while I waited and chatted with them. We became friends. He did a huge take out and it did take some time. Worth every penny. I would buy enough for two days, it reheated well. The steak schwarma wasn’t as good as the chicken. Too fatty and tough for me but the flavor was right on. That was the first place I ever had garlic on a sandwich, the way they make/blend it with oil. WOW. I used to get take out of that and use it at home for my veggies, like when I cooked broccoli for example.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I am running on at the mouth here, well the fingers. Stop reading if I am too long winded. The best Beef schwarma I ever had was this TINY little place in OB. I can’t remember the name. I remember the owner. He was the best cook. We had a restaurant supply business back there, maybe, exactly, 32 years ago, and I was pregnant and would ride around with my husband for fun on some delivery days. Every time he went there, I was in the truck. He was on the right side of the main road right by the pier. Tiny place, only take out, a window, no seating. He was a great chef all around. He closed to become a famous chef in Las Vegas. He taught me how to make his beef schwarma before he left. I begged him. And he also taught me how to make these incredible breadcrumb coated garlic rack of lamb. That one I don’t remember how to do. I had a house fire and lost all my recipes 12 years ago. Very sad! But I mostly remember how to do the beef Schwarma. I still make it and love it but it is not exactly his. I still love it. If anyone cares I could try to write down quantities. I make it by looks now. It takes long but worth it. I always make a lot because I can eat it for days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Now, I eat at Aladdin Café in Clairemont. Not the one in Hillcrest!! Different owners. Their Chicken/beef (this second I cant remember which I get) schwarma is very good, garlic is excellent, hummus good, tahini very good, falafel is very good too, but you have to say “not well done”. They always overcook it. It is an open kitchen so you can watch. I always ask for those tables. They make their salads right when you order and they are delicious and fresh. Everything is very fresh. And they have pretty good wood fired pizza too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Okay, enough from me now, I am off to get some breakfast. Have a great day,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi Lindy. It's fun to reminisce. I think that the Old Spaghetti Factory had just opened right about the time I moved to SD, about 40 years ago. Maybe I'm wrong, my memory is a little dim. As to Hotel Bar, the first I recall going there was "only" about 25 years ago. I suppose it could have been around for many years before that, or a different restaurant may have been in that spot. I simply don't recall.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hi DrChow,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nice to hear from you again. So you are a newbie, almost, here in SD. Me, my kids are third generation. VERY RARE. I just noticed your name and this whole thing, blog, whatever, it is called chowhound. Did you make this? This is the first blog I have ever participated in and it is so fun. If you did start it, then thanks. It is a bit frustrating, tho. Twice now, I typed a long entry, and I couldn't enter it. It got deleted. But I am learning. I will get around to typing that again.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Have a wonderful Sunday, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      No, Lindy, I most definitely didn't start Chowhound! But I'd be very proud if I had! It's a great site.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes, and you are very nice. I am new at this for an old gal. Glad to get to know you : )

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sorry this is not about old San Diego Restaurants; I am answering a question posed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Go farther East on Main Street in El Cajon- Valley Foods has a steam tray area and about nine tables just when you walk in. You can see the two schawarma spits spinning and other items in the steam trays, a menu board and other items available are listed on top of the glass display.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We order kabobs (beef or chicken (or lamb-25 cents more) and also ask to pay for a flatbread- then walk over to the bakery and at the doorway, get a fresh flatbread while waiting for the food. Masgoof, fish filets roasted whole chicken, stews and soups as well as sandwiches made on their fresh baked 'bolillo' rolls. Not fancy but always fresh. You can even order pomegranate juice or yogurt drink from the fountain.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.valleyfoodsmed.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                At Alforon, try the chicken tawook and lahm bajeen...and just about anything else. They have their own imported oven and each bread is made to order. It's small inside and oh so good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Cathy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi Cathy,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the reply and your input. I have been to Valley Foods about two years ago. I saw their commercial on foodnetwork, I think. I got a sample of the schwarma and a few other things. The people there were very nice. I didn’t like the food I tried, though. However, I did not eat the things you are suggesting, so I will give it another try. I did buy lots of good things in the grocery store part of the store. And their prices were pretty good, lots of choices.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I have tried Vine Ripe in La Mesa and their restaurant. Same thing. I didn’t like the food, but great selection in the grocery section. They have some unusual candy choices. If you like peanut brittle, well, they have the best cashew brittle I have ever eaten. That is all I can say. Have strong teeth. There is a special candy section in a big fresh case. You can buy however much you want by the pound.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  At Alforon, have you tried the schwarma, that is what I am missing/wanting? How was it? And how is the tahini? Can’t wait to try the bread, YUM.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks and Take, care Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3. Anyone remember Carnegie A440 Pizza Hall? Just north of UCSD in the valley. Spent a great deal of time there back when there were darn few places near UCSD to eat. (We'd go to the Bratskeller when we were interested in 'fine' dining).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Anyone remember the old Chart House in Shelter Island where Fiddler's is now?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That was a wonderful place and still miss that salad bar with one of the BEST Blue Cheese dressing evah!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Still miss Hydra on PCH in Cardiff..that was a classic!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  See, somehow I still don't use this site well and it posted right before I was done. Just adding about the WONDERFUL WHITE SAUCE/SALSA they have at Miguels that they put on the table along with the salsa and chips, YUM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I guess my post got deleted, only the very bottom got posted. I used to eat at Chart House every month. From when I was 4 until 18 my parents owned a big boat that they docked at Kona Kai. When we came in we either at at Chart House, or the Boll Weevil acaross the street, or sometimes we would take the boat down to Bali Hai and dock there on their pier. That was fun
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And then there in Miguels Mecican, one block north of Chart House. It opened a bit later, in years, I mean. They had, and still do, great food,sauces, salsa, and the white warm salsa they bring with the red salsa and chips is great. I used to have the recipe for that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I loved the Chart House, and I do remember the one on SI :-) I remember several others too further up the coast.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DiningDiva

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Been to many a Chart House across the US, use to enjoy the salad bar with that cheapo caviar. Once watched the tall ships from a penthouse office above it. BTW DD - I'm looking for a source for Wild Boar Shoulder, any recs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: cstr

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wild Boar Shoulder is often available at Tip Tip Meats in the freezer (sometimes they also have different cuts, e.g. leg so you might give them a call if you only look for shoulder)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  3. P.I.R.E.T.'S !!!!!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm craving pizza from Etna's Pizza..
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also, had lunch with Stephen Bishop at the Mex place across from Hoover or Crawford that was very popular in College area.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What the hell was the name of that place?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I still love the Aspen Mine Company for their Toga parties..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi, The Mexican place was Don Jose's. They had the hottest sauce, thin salsa, ever, in that little jar on the table. I wrote this somewhere on a different post.......My mom told me a story about the first time her parents took her there. She went to Hoover. I don't know how old she was when they first went there. Her mom didn't know what the stuff was in that glass container on the table and took a big spoonful to taste it.........you can guess how the story ended....not well For all the rest of you, this sauce is enough to kill you, lol I used to go to Aspen Mine all the time. I wasn't a good dancer, tho.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And, okay, I'll bite.... What is P I R E T S and who is Stephen Bishop?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Piret's was the best restaurant ever in Mission Hills, owned by the same people who had the Perfect Pan a few doors down on the same street, where they not only sold cooking utensils and such, but held cooking classes. It was a sad day when the restaurant (and the store) closed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Morning Doc,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Now, I remember. I went to the store, not the restaurant. Unless they had crepes, then I ate there. My son had a ceramics class not far away.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Does anyone remember Square Pan Pizza. There was one in my area on Lake Murray off Navajo, one by SDSU, and even one at the Zoo. Their thing was to cut square pieces out of a big rectangular pan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just thought of another one, sadly, long time gone.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Do you remember Tep’s Villa Roma up Clairemont Drive, up the hill from Mission Bay? It was a great Italian Place. Besides remembering how good the chicken marsala was, what really stands out, now, to me, is their antipasto salad bar. It was in a little alcove. You could get all you wanted, salamis (good ones), cheeses, different olives, peppers of several kinds and LOTS more. It was GREAT!! Never had anything like that in san diego, then or now. I went there from, maybe, 1968 thru about 1984 or so when they closed. That was a sad day. I'm getting better at this posting thing
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lindy

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That antipasto salad bar at Tep's also had anchovies, among many other things, and since I love anchovies, I'd pile on so many I'd be drinking water for hours. Loved the dark, very old-school environment, and their food was good. I went several times a year. I think they closed much later than '84, though, more like '94 maybe, or even '04?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hi Doc,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I was just guessing when they closed. I am glad we got more years in then. I didn't eat the anchovies, ew. sorry. I need them in dressings and other things, but not alone. So you remember the selections then. I am glad someone does. Thanks for telling me. And I had forgotten it was darkish. And didn't they have something like a round fire place or something in the middle of the restaurant?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No need to be sorry for not liking anchovies. Most people don't, it seems. Anyway, since no one else was taking them, all the more for me! They had an entire bin of them!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, it was quite the spread that they had there -- all pretty good stuff -- in that little alcove area. And you could go back! (At least I did. To get more anchovies...) Pretty good soups, too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm stretching my memory about the fireplace, though -- just can't bring it to mind. I think there was something like that, but can't clearly remember. (My turn to be "sorry".)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I had the rest of the anchovies you didn't eat from Tep's. Still buy them in the big (14 oz) can at the Costco Business Center.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Cathy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi Cathy,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I can't use the 'jumbo' pack, so I just buy the small white ones from the store when I have a recipe that needs them. After opening, how long would you say the leftovers would last in a baggie?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hi Doc,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I use the white ones for cooking, they add nice salt and a nuance of flavor that no one will recogn. I went back for more salami and provolone. The fire place was raised and round. Maybe 3 feet or 2 1/2 feet high with bricks. And a large round hood. I used to think, back then, that it would be great for a bbq. Now I am remembering more. There was a ledge aroung the top of the bricks. So it must have been more like 3 feet. There were chairs all around for sitting and eating, that is it. I remembered. Thanks.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bye

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks, Lindy. I'll ask my companion about the fireplace -- she remembers things like that more than me. But since you now recall it definitely being there (in detail), I'm sure it was.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You're quite the amazing new resource on this board, Lindy! :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi Doc,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks. As I was typing, I was remembering. I can picture it now. It had smallish tiles on top of the ledge, tannish.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am having so much fun with this blog, I think that is what you call it. My first blog ever that I have participated in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I saw an ad or a listing for another blog or such, for closed san diego restaurants and when I went back to find it, it was gone. I wanted to read it. I don't know how to find it. Could you please post me a link how to get there and be able to read it? If you know how to? Thanks in advance, Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ps Is there spell check here?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Actually, no, this isn't a blog. It's an interactive discussion board. I'm glad you've decided to participate in it! :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        CH didn't used to have a spell-checker at all, but now it does, sort of, with an auto-correct feature. Unfortunately, it doesn't always work.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Being a former scientist-engineer type (although I was many years a professor, so I have no excuse), my spelling sucks badly. So I appreciate all the help I can get.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        When I'm really unsure, my go-to is still dictionary.com...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hi Doc,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the quick reply. I am still sitting here. Usually I type on a word document and copy and paste it to here. At least I can get spell and gramm. check.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I can do most things great, but I did not get the spelling gene.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Okay, here's a couple more....I worked in Chula Vista for a couple early years as a buyer for a furniture chain and manager for a different chain. Does anyone remember El Patio mexican food? There food was medium, but I think they are still there on the corner of like, E and Broadway?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And La Bella pizza. Within half mile of there. Best pizza I had ever had up to then. They have changed their whole restaurant now, catering more to the bar food and drinks. I bet the pizza is still good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Lindy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Lindy (or anyone else), do you remember Don Marios on Genesee near Balboa?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Started out as a decent but fast-food Mexican place, and evolved steadily to a really good home-cooked Mexican restaurant.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And then one day, about 15 years ago, maybe less, it suddenly disappeared.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hi Doc,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No, I never was there. Sorry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wait, was it in a big, like 3 or 4 story office building. It was on the bottom floor. It was on the north west side of near the street corner? The one I am remembering closed about 36 years ago, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                No, it was in the strip mall where Hollywood Video and The Crazy Chicken are now. In the southeastern corner.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There is a tall office building at the corner of Balboa/Genesee, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mine is one or two buildings right beside where the Taco Bell is now

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mine is a tiny bit north of there on Genesee, where Nazca Grill, a pretty decent Peruvian restaurant that gets almost no attention, is now. Next to China Wok, sort of.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know what Peruvian food is? Give me a few details please
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thx L

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And it seems like the name Alfonso's is coming into my head for the one I wrote you about, but not sure.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        There are bells ringing off the hook in my head about Afonso's, but this darn Alzheimer's...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Kidding, but don't clearly recall it in the Bay Park/West Clairemont area.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        There was a Mexican place down Balboa not far from Marie Callender that had traditional and also American-Mexican style food and a wonderful bakery. I always took friends there if they wanted Mexican food nearby.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        As to Nazca Grill and Peruvian food:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.nazcagrill.com/

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the link. Right now when I quit typing I will read the menu. I saw the pictures of the food and it looked good, lots of seafood, and lots of sauce. I always order extra sauce on anything, where ever I go. It was in a 4 story building and was only there 15 or 20 years. It was on the bottom floor, large sit down restaurant, low lighting. No bakery and no american food. Good salsa

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: LindyN

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ding ding ding.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think the 4-story building you were referring to is the Balboa Medical Center building.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't recall there being any restaurants in it, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, it's just south of that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: DoctorChow

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hi,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, that is it, I believe, now but not then. It had a green and white striped awning out, over the front door. Maybe tomorrow I will remember. The food WAS good. Maybe closed 1978 or so. L
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Reading that menu now, want it

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. CHECK OUT these existing old cafes: 12th and Broadway Café, Golden Hills Café, Brians (which is the old Topsy's in n. park), Paesano Pizza on 30th, Rudford's, Aunt Emmas's Chula Vista, Salazar's on Market, Grand Central in the YMCA on Broadway , Hob Nob, Chicken Pie Shop. the following are now closed-I miss the Flamingo Cafe in Chula Vista, the Travolator at El Cortez hotel, Beefmaster's Sandwich Shop at the California theatre, Denny's at 9th and Ash, Keith's National City(now Aunt Emma's), Miller's cafe in the Cabrillo Lanes Chula Vista, Sabino's, Sun Cafe on Market St., Lubachs. I once owned a taxicab there and knew all the places to go to. DAVE S

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: davidlee

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hi David, My favorite name, I named my son that,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Topsy's, yes I remember that. A very nice menu selection. Aunt Emma's CV, I think I went to one, what, around 54th street and El Cajon Blvd.? Good pancakes. And some kind of like, homemade blueberry sryup? I skipped over Rudford's Hob Nob and Chicken Pie because I have already written about them. The El Cortez stands out. What did you like there best? Keith's, I would have never ever have thought of them. I can close my eyes and see it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for your post, Lindy