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Corned Beef Hamentaschen

margib Mar 13, 2011 06:05 PM

Since St Patrick's Day and Purim are within a couple days of one another, I thought I would try to make a corned beef hamentaschen (usually a sweet Jewish pastry with three corners). Anyone have any suggestions? Mixing cheese and meat isn't an issue here.

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    ChiliDude RE: margib Mar 13, 2011 06:48 PM

    Are you sure that what you're making isn't a calzone? A calzone in the shape of Haman's hat. BTW, some, but not all, Italians will be celebrating the 150th anniversary of the unification of Italy on St. Patrick's Day.

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      another_adam RE: margib Mar 13, 2011 07:48 PM

      I'd think you'd certainly want to go for yeast hamentaschen- if dairy isn't an issue, then I'd use a rich dough like the usual milkhig tayg for hamentashen or kolkatshki, but without (most of) the sugar... After that, it should be pretty straightforward!

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        rockycat RE: margib Mar 14, 2011 06:45 AM

        I think my brain just exploded.

        For those of you who get this, my "English" birthday is St. Patrick's Day, my Hebrew birthday is Ta'anit Esther. I should be able to appreciate this multi-culti mash-up, but it just ain't happening for me. However, margib, good luck on this one, and I really am interested in hearing how the experiment turns out.

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          mamachef RE: rockycat Mar 14, 2011 07:02 AM

          Call it anything else: calzone, turnover, handpie, dumpling, knish, piroshki.....anything. But please, in the name of everything good, don't call it Hamentaschen. It's a sorta bad food oxymoron. It hits me like bacon and cheese on a bagel. I don't keep kosher myself, but when I think of traditional Hamentaschen, corned beef is so far away from what comes to mind that my stomach actually flipped when I saw the header.
          This is one traditional food that really probably shouldn't be played with or "improved upon." It has a heavy duty traditional significance. It's as if someone wanted to make a Mardi Gras King's Cake and load it up with additional ingredients, like bacon and cheese; or make a peanut-butter brioche with chocolate chips and call it Pannetone.

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            another_adam RE: mamachef Mar 14, 2011 12:24 PM

            I dunno, doesn't sound any worse or less traditional to me than the "Nutella Hamantashen" I see listed over on the Chow sidebar! :)

            I gotta say, as someone who grew up with rather un-sweet poppy yeast hamantashn, I find the cookie ones that seem to have taken over to be disappointing and offputting, too. Ours were basically like triangular kolacky, and there are places in the US where savory kolacky have become popular, too. (It's true that those are also quite polarizing, though...) As far as I know, there's nothing other than the shape that's truly symbolic, so I'd happily leave others to their chocolate concoctions while taking a savory one! (In fact, caramelized onion and raisins is sounding pretty good!)

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              mamachef RE: another_adam Mar 14, 2011 12:48 PM

              another_adam, I agree about the sad state of purchaseable Hamentaschen: leaden, doughy, wrong proportion of fruit to pastry - very pallid, horribly disappointing. I was spoiled by growing up with two Jewish grammas who baked like angels, and the 'tasch was no exception. As I said, I'm not kosher, but some things just offend my sensibilities, and this is one of them. Like I said, IMO, make it and call it anything else. I don't think I'll be the only one repulsed by the OP idea.

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                AmyH RE: mamachef Mar 14, 2011 04:37 PM

                You're not the only one who finds it repulsive, mamachef. Perhaps the OP would be better off making a knish out of it. That actually doesn't sound too terrible. But a hamantaschen? Yuck!

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                  magiesmom RE: AmyH Mar 14, 2011 05:05 PM

                  double yuck!

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                    mamachef RE: AmyH Mar 14, 2011 05:57 PM

                    With some potato, or even some groats? Oy, that would be a helluva knish - in fact, I think it's possible that it's been done, retail.....but can't remember the name of the shop/company that sells them.

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                    another_adam RE: mamachef Mar 14, 2011 05:30 PM

                    Haha, fair enough, can't argue with associations :)

                    I have to admit, except for montashen--and homntashen on purim--every kind of tash that we had when I was a kid was savory: tsibltashen, fleyshtashn (and the ever-popular klopstashn). Oh, well, there are also sweet epeltashn. But I guess I personally don't have a specific expectation of whether a tash with be sweet or savory! And I think "hot pockets" may have even tipped the balance towards savory in my mind. So.... maybe just translating it to "pockets" would be enough to break the association? :)

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                      mamachef RE: another_adam Mar 14, 2011 05:56 PM

                      another_adam, Da Mamachef would be more than happy to personally scarf a homemade corned beef pocket or 4, dipped in mustard. I would eat them even more happily with some kraut or shredded cabbage and caraway stuffed in with the corned beef. : )

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                        another_adam RE: mamachef Mar 14, 2011 06:11 PM

                        Or maybe irishe tashn :)
                        (explaining it sort of kills it, but they call homentashn 'ears' in Hebrew and 'irren' means go astray in German and Irish means, well, Irish in English...)

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                      meatn3 RE: mamachef Mar 18, 2011 05:50 AM

                      While I admire the creativity this idea sounds really repulsive to me too.

                      After reading through all the responses I think it is largely semantics. Calling it by another name does make the idea less awful. Hamantaschen has such a specific meaning to me.

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                    SIMIHOUND RE: mamachef Mar 19, 2011 04:34 PM

                    I flipped also. Some things are not meant to be done and this one is it. Dayenu!

                2. CindyJ RE: margib Mar 17, 2011 12:55 PM

                  Sounds a bit like an empanada to me. :)

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                    mamachef RE: CindyJ Mar 19, 2011 05:37 AM

                    I LOVE empanadas. : ) And I bet I'd adore a corned beef empanada.

                  2. tcamp RE: margib Mar 19, 2011 08:23 AM

                    The more I think about this, the better it sounds. I'd go with finely chopped corned beef hash inside buttery, flakey, tricorn shapes. Of course, it isn't hamentashen at all so you'd need a new name: Leprechan hats? Paddy hats? I dunno.

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                      mamachef RE: tcamp Mar 19, 2011 06:46 PM

                      Cute, tcamp: PaddyHatties.

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