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jmarcroyal Mar 9, 2011 04:51 PM

I grabbed some Five Guys today and I asked the guy taking my order if any ither locations are coming, and to my surprise, there is finally a location that will be within Toronto!

The new location will be located at Eglinton and Warden, just a few minutes away from home for me, and much more convenient for everyone coming from the East End of Toronto. Apparently the location will be opening in about 6 weeks.

Now, if only Chipotle would open a location in the same area...

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    sbug206 Mar 9, 2011 05:01 PM

    Good, they can kill off that lame Licks knockoff, Jetsun's.

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      TexSquared Mar 9, 2011 08:13 PM

      Licks "knockoff"? As if Licks is worth copying?

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        JesPlease Mar 18, 2011 09:16 PM

        Been to both... Please don't bring 'The Guys' down to Lick's level... ugh

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          Davwud Apr 7, 2011 11:44 AM

          My impression of Jetsun's was it was like Lick's but not as good.

          DT

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            TexSquared Apr 7, 2011 11:40 PM

            "it was like Lick's but not as good."

            Thanks for the heads-up, that's a warning to me never to set foot in there. Five Guys will finish them off. Jetsun's might as well move, they have been given 2 months advanced notice of their demise...

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              GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 12:14 PM

              I've been to Jetsuns 3 times. I think they are far better than Lick's and their frozen patties. And the fries are a lot better than 5 guys yet much fewer. Its also not overpriced.

              $14+ for a cheeseburger fries and soda fountain pop is ridiculous so I don't think 5 guys will put anyone under any time soon.

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                Davwud Jul 17, 2011 02:30 PM

                I tried Jetsun's. I wouldn't even go back for a free burger.

                DT

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                  Googs Jul 19, 2011 05:58 AM

                  Lick's loaf of bread and seasonings meatloaf burgers aren't hard to beat. So disappointing considering they used to be okay. Stop diversifying and get back to your core products Lick's!!!

                  I've tried all 3; 5G, Lick's, and Jetsun's. None come even remotely close to Goody's Diner. And Goody's does it for $8. for a fresh burger on a fresh bun with fresh fries.
                  http://www.goodysdiner.com/images/Men...

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                  Goody's Diner
                  133 Manville Rd, Unit 17, Toronto, ON , CA

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                    Davwud Jul 19, 2011 07:49 AM

                    I gotta get me there Googs.

                    What else do they do well??

                    DT

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                      sweetie Sep 10, 2012 08:33 AM

                      I don't think Goody's is open anymore.

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                        Davwud Sep 10, 2012 09:57 AM

                        You are correct.

                        From their fb page.

                        "A huge thank you to all our valued customers at Goody’s Diner – your patronage was greatly appreciated. It was great getting to know many fabulous people and we’re glad you enjoyed Goody’s so much!

                        We certainly appreciate everyone’s well wishes and concern. Unfortunately we have had to make a very difficult decision & Goody’s Diner is closed due to very high operating and product costs. Many of you know we operate two businesses – Noble Culinary and Goody’s. It’s become too much to operate both business and we will continue only with Noble Culinary.

                        The Goody’s team had a lot of fun and truly enjoyed serving everyone!

                        All this being said, Chef says ‘never say never’…"

                        DT

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                      stv Aug 2, 2012 07:11 AM

                      Here here.

                      The best in under $15 burgers,
                      Goody's Diner and Starr burger in Whitby are the best burgers,

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        szw Mar 9, 2011 08:04 PM

        I was very disappointed in the Five Guys burger I had in NYC. Like really really disappointed.....however I will give them at least a couple more shots once they open up here.

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          Querencia Mar 9, 2011 08:28 PM

          Never mind the burger, just live on the fries.

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          TexSquared Mar 9, 2011 08:08 PM

          All I can say is, sweeeeeet.... I grew up in that area and know it well, and will definitely pay Five Guys a visit once it opens there. Thank you for making my day!

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            jmarcroyal Mar 9, 2011 09:02 PM

            Its nice to have a 5-guys so close, I just wish it was a bit cheaper. Burger Priest is probably actually a bit cheaper, with (imho) better fries and a better burger, but the Cajun fries at 5G can be pretty good, and I like their toppings. Maybe this will drive out Jetsuns Juicyburger and the Licks location in the area, and maybe Chipotle will take one of their spots!

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              TexSquared Mar 9, 2011 09:33 PM

              I haven't been to BP and I am actually surprised they'd be cheaper than 5G. Not having prices on the websites (in both cases) make this a bit more difficult to verify so I'll take your word for it.

              But if I can avoid the hassles of going downtown (gas plus the cost of parking, or the time and cost of GO Transit + TTC) by driving the short distance on the 401 from Pickering to Scarborough, 5G wins hands down; those costs are not insignificant and would easily make up for the allegedly lower BP pricing.

              I plan to support Five Guys bigtime once they open in Scarborough. They impressed me in Detroit and I'm glad to see them here.

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                Poorboy Mar 9, 2011 10:29 PM

                This could be the next big thing since Krispy Kreme! I too, am anxious to try this!

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                  callitasicit Mar 9, 2011 11:58 PM

                  Probably won't have the same fate.

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                    Yongeman Mar 10, 2011 05:44 AM

                    Hopefully not, but it seems to me that we're reaching the burger saturation point with the multitude of places that have opened in the last several years. I wouldn't be surprised to see some closures or menu expansions at some of these spots soon.

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                      TexSquared Mar 10, 2011 06:09 AM

                      If I had to vote three places "off the island" I'd say Licks, Johnny's, and South Street... there's already at least one casualty of this saturation, Pink Burger (like that was a surprise!)

                      Five Guys has thrown down the gauntlet with their "free toppings" policy. That will set them apart from the others that like to charge 25 cents to $1.00 for them, each.

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                        jmarcroyal Mar 10, 2011 06:55 AM

                        Just to clear up the prices, At BP their double double with fries and a pop comes up to around $13. At 5G, their Regular Cheese(2 patty) with a regular fries and regular pop cost I believe a little over $14. I think I have that right anyway...

                        As for parking, BP is actually not bad for that.Theres only like 2 pay spots in front of it, but right beside it is the parking lot for KFC and its always empty and free. If you try to go to BP during rush hour, traffic will be a nightmare, but if you dont mind going late like I tend to, its not bad. I just take Kingston road all the way down to queen and take a right, its just a few stores down on the right side.

                        5G burger is pretty good, I love the toppings and one plus is that they have free refills on the drinks. But I gotta say the burger at BP is just something special. I dont know how to describe it, maybe its juicier, theres a nice crust on the patty, its a definete must try.

                        That being said, im so glad to have a 5G in the area, it blows the competition away. If only they would make a 24hour location, or atleast open til 12 or 1!

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                          Davwud Apr 7, 2011 11:46 AM

                          Harvey's and Hero Burger are certainly off the island too.

                          DT

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                          100 Wellington W, Toronto, ON M5H3X7, CA

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                            TexSquared Apr 7, 2011 11:43 PM

                            Harvey's isn't even in the same league as the others we've voted off.... it's the worst chain of them all.

            2. Bobby Wham Mar 10, 2011 07:07 AM

              OOOHHHHH YEAHHHHH, still not downtown though.....

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                TexSquared Mar 10, 2011 07:11 AM

                Downtown is oversaturated with burger places, suburbs are underserved (other than by crap like Licks or Wimpy's...). Five Guys is opening where they have no competition, and will make it harder for the downtown guys when they try to expand north. Smart move on their part.

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                  jmarcroyal Mar 10, 2011 07:19 AM

                  Five Guys does have competition at that location, its just really crappy. Jetsuns, Licks, Retroburger, what a joke!

                  Ill take Wendys over those places lol

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                    TexSquared Mar 10, 2011 07:26 AM

                    Like I said, they are opening where they have no competition :-) Five Guys could put Licks and South Street out of business if they play their cards right. Starting with saturating the suburbs and forget about downtown.

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                    The Professor May 20, 2011 11:46 AM

                    "Five Guys is opening where they have no competition, and will make it harder for the downtown guys when they try to expand north."

                    So, all Five Guys needs to do now is learn how to make a decent hamburger. I've tried several different locations, and judging by what I got, they still have a long way to go. It's a fast food burger at 'designer' prices.

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                      jmarcroyal May 20, 2011 12:22 PM

                      i agree the prices are higher then they should be, but its a quality product still. Id like to see it cost atleast 20% less, or offer a bit of a deal with a combo, but considering the overall size of the franchise, im pretty sure they wont be changing a damn thing. Maybe once they have more locations open in Toronto and the GTA they can save money by Economy of Scale, and perhaps they will pass the savings down to the customer, but time will tell...

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                  Spelunk Mar 10, 2011 10:39 AM

                  If the Five Guys web site is correct, it looks to be at 800 Warden; so this looks to be south of Eglinton.

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                    jmarcroyal Mar 10, 2011 05:05 PM

                    Yea I noticed that, it puts it somewhere around where the Lowes is located, so its the South/West plaza, which also contains a Futureshop and a few other places. Atleast theres plenty of parking spots...

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                      jmarcroyal Mar 11, 2011 11:37 PM

                      I was in the area yesterday and I drove through the plaza to see where it might be, and that address, 800 Warden, is actually the Lowes. Is it possible that the Five Guys will be located inside the Lowes, like a Harveys in a Home Depot?

                      Do they do that in the States?

                      Seems kinda bizarre, both other locations are right beside the road and are nice and visible, this seems to be more tucked away, albeit in a very busy plaza...

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                        pakmode Mar 18, 2011 12:47 PM

                        That plaza's been dead ever since Walmart moved across the street. The Winners is gone now too, being replaced by Marshall's.

                        They won't have any visibilty from Eglinton as the flea market building blocks off line of sight into that plaza.

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                      ManAbout Mar 10, 2011 12:07 PM

                      South Street uses hormone and antibiotic free beef in their bugers.

                      What kind does 5 Guys use?

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                        GoodGravy Mar 10, 2011 02:00 PM

                        Nope.
                        Q: Does Five Guys serve organic or free range beef?

                        A: While our beef is neither organic nor are the cattle free range, our distributor purchases raw materials from the major meat suppliers in the US who are required to treat the cattle humanely and follow all the procedures set forth by the USDA.

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                          ManAbout Mar 10, 2011 02:28 PM

                          So basically the same garbage that is served by McDonalds and the like.

                          Hmm.. I think I will stick with the hormone and antibiotic free burgers from South St.

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                            The Macallan 18 Mar 10, 2011 03:18 PM

                            Five Guys is THE real deal. 10,000 times better than South Street...(whats that owned by Tim Hortons or something?)

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                              TexSquared Mar 10, 2011 04:02 PM

                              South Street is owned by NY Fries, not Tim Hortons. But Five Guys beats them. Hands down.

                              I could care less about organic/free range/shade grown/fair trade/yadda yadda yadda hype.

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                                sbug206 Mar 10, 2011 04:54 PM

                                I'll take South St over Five guys. I want a patty that's cooked pink. I want milkshakes, onion rings and gravy for my fries. It's not a strange concept to grasp. Somehow 5 guys doesn't think so. It's a pretty plain no frills burger with sky high prices. If I'm going to pay for a premium burger, Craft Burger is miles ahead of 5 guys. South St is still the best chain burger this side of the border.

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                                  TexSquared Mar 10, 2011 08:13 PM

                                  I've been to both (South St. in Ajax, Five Guys in suburban Detroit). The Americans win. I also want to support Five Guys so that they continue to expand here and hopefully choke out Licks, South St., Johnny's, and the rest of the poseurs (I do not count Burger's Priest in that category). Support foreign investment!

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                                    jmarcroyal Mar 10, 2011 10:48 PM

                                    It would be nice if Five Guys forces a bunch of the Licks locations to shut down and forcing the people running that company to realize how they screwed up. I think everyone agrees that Licks WAS good, but then it started franchising and now their burgers are just overpriced, overcooked hockey pucks. Maybe they will invest a little in R&D, look at what 5G and BP are doing and why they are getting praise, and reinvent themselves accordingly.

                                    I think Id rather Licks learn and adapt then fail completely. They have a name that the average person associates with a good burger thanks to nostalgia if anything, so they have an opportunity to make a better product. If they dont, screw em. Im not usually for American companies taking over Canada, but its not like they are taking our jobs, if anything the franchises bring a lot of money into the country.

                                    I say bring in a lot more 5G locations, bring in more Chipotle, bring in some Shake Shack, Ill even take Checkers or Sonic. I might get laughed at, but bring back The Olive Garden, I loved their bread sticks and unlimited soup/salad.

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                                      TexSquared Mar 11, 2011 08:16 AM

                                      As much as I agree with you (wishing 5G makes Licks smarten up), it's not gonna happen. Look no further than Tim Horton's. Switch to frozen donuts and raise prices. Krispy Kreme comes to Canada and introduces us to the concept of FRESH donuts. Who won that battle? (Without naming names, we still have people post here saying they'd rather eat pre-frozen Timmies than Original Kreme off the fryer... those who do, have a palate like a cow's backside, borrowing from Gordon Ramsay) From your post KK should have forced Tim to go back to fresh donuts like they used to serve... so much for that.

                                      I don't support inferior product, especially when inferior product is accompanied by a price hike. I do not give any business to Tim Horton's. In the same way I do not give any business to Licks.

                                      As for Olive Garden I agree. I still cannot believe that lame-ass clone East Side Mario was able to force them to leave the country with their tail between their legs (that would be like Licks beating Five Guys...)

                                      You pretty much mirrored my opinion on American companies coming in. There would be a lot more Canadians unemployed if all those American companies some Canadians love to hate (McDonald's, Walmart, Home Depot, etc) were to suddenly pack up and leave tomorrow. So keep Canadians employed, support foreign investment!

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                                        scarberian Mar 11, 2011 06:53 PM

                                        As for Timmies "winning out" over Krispy Kreme, it was more about diversity and choices and the fault lands on Krispy Kreme and their business model. All Krispy Kreme had were excellent donuts and crappy coffee. Timmies had/has crappy donuts and crappy coffee, BUT they also offered sandwiches, soups, stews, bagels, etc. There's only so much donuts one can eat before wanting something more substantial. Also it was a matter of KK expanding too fast. We were inundated with their donuts, especially the glazed. You eat one for the first time they're wonderful, but seeing them everywhere and those frickin boxes for charity makes you quickly sick of KK. I loved their cream filled, but after visiting the now failed Scarborough location I noticed how much they wasted. On our last visit years ago, we wanted to order some filled donuts and there were at least 8 sitting in the counter. The server told us we couldn't have those because they weren't fresh anymore. They threw them away and gave us fresh ones. Great for the customer but brutal for their bottom line.

                                        As for foreign investments, I agree with you Tex. There are a lot of great American companies out there that I wish could expand up here. I mean if a local is going to invest in a US franchise and bring it to town why not?! Look at McDonald's and all those Canadians that have worked at their restaurants all these years. My wife used to work at one of their locations. They've given a lot of Canadians their first job ever and have pumped a lot of money into the local economy. I wholly support the local joints IF they can deliver a good product. I too miss the Olive Garden, although I heard they packed up because the Canadian division had shady financial troubles. Oh those bread stick and salad lunches...

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                                          TexSquared Mar 11, 2011 09:33 PM

                                          OK, so you subscribe to the "Krispy Kreme failed because they're a one-trick pony" argument.

                                          If that's the case, Five Guys is doomed to failure for the same reasons. Unlike the competition, they don't offer: poutine, grilled chicken sandwiches, ice cream/milkshakes (like Licks), veggie options, bad Buffalo wings, specialty coffees, cakes/pies, etc. They're the same sort of "one trick pony" KK is. They do burgers, hot dogs, and fries. That's it. They do them well, no question, but that's all they do.

                                          If Olive Garden was in financial trouble in Canada then shouldn't Red Lobster (owned by the same company) also have closed up?

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                                            jmarcroyal Mar 11, 2011 11:23 PM

                                            I think Red Lobster fills more of a niche then Olive Garden. Theres no other seafood restaurants that would fit into that category, or theres very few of them.

                                            I dont know why Olive Garden failed but I really would love to see it come back. Clearly theres something up, I thought it was always busy and I dont really know anyone that doesnt like it. Maybe its not authentic Italian but whatever you want to call it, it was pretty good. Maybe theres some legal situation keeping them from coming back.

                                            Maybe there is hope, lately theres been a ton of American companies coming to town, Five Guys, Chipotle, Target is coming as well. Maybe thanks to the dollar reaching parity the companies feel the economy is stable enough to enter the market. Im sure its only a matter of time before some Canadian agressively pursues The Olive Garden to bring them back.

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                                              scarberian Mar 12, 2011 02:56 AM

                                              You can't use that comparison because Five Guys offers a meal which people will take over a dessert. Hence Timmies wins over KK because they offered a meal alternative. KK was niche, Timmies offered more. C'mon you telling me when you're hungry you're going to get a KK instead of a sandwich, soup or bagel? As well people chose the Timmies coffee over the KK coffee. Both are crappy, but I guess Timmies just has a coffee that's not as offensive. If they're already getting a coffee then they might as well get a donut or sandwich etc. It's all about convenience and when you only have 1/2 hour or an hour for lunch you're not going to waste your time just for a donut, maybe after your meal if there's time. Also people don't want to be eating donuts every day. Look what happened to them in the states. The Atkins craze hit and some other factors and KK had to close several stores down there. Just on donuts yes they kick Timmy butt, but people want more than just donuts.

                                              Five Guys may succeed (depending on their quality) because it's a meal. When it's a guys or girls night out and it's late and you're hungry, you're not hunting for donuts. You're hunting for something substantial.

                                              As for the Olive Garden, as I said, that's what I heard. I'm not sure what's true and who knows what goes on behind the corporate doors. Sure a major company may own another chain, but they usually have a separate division to handle that chain. If that division does screwy or shady things then the parent company could close them down.

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                                                TexSquared Mar 12, 2011 07:17 AM

                                                I just remember at least one other poster saying he/she doesn't like Five Guys because they don't do milkshakes or offer gravy on their fries, so this was the basis of my reply. I don't think it was you though, since I'm sure you'd rather get the superior Five Guys burger and fries rather than put up with the inferior Licks product just because they also have an ice cream/milkshake bar.

                                                I find Tim Horton's entire product line so awful it's not worth going at all. No matter how many items they keep adding.

                                                KK expanding worldwide during Atkins was definitely one of the worst corporate moves in history. They didn't just crash and burn in Canada, they failed in many U.S. markets too. There are actually no KK's anywhere in New York State other than in New York City area now. All their upstate locations (including the ones in Buffalo which opened to long lineups of Canadian cars) are gone. It's a bit of irony that the first Buffalo location is now home to Vitamin World of all things :-)

                                                As for Olive Garden, this might be the right time for them to make a Canadian comeback. Other than East Side Mario they have minimal competition as long as they stay away from downtown Toronto and Woodbridge. It's not like in the U.S. where they have to take on Macaroni Grill, Carrabbas, and Fazoli in almost every market. In the GTA they could easily open in places like Oshawa, Ajax, Scarborough, Markham, Mississauga, Oakville, etc and do quite well.

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                                                  scarberian Mar 12, 2011 06:01 PM

                                                  I remember the one that was in Pickering. It's now a Great Wall Chinese buffet =p. I do miss those breadsticks and salad. I used to order their fettucine alfredo... ah memories.

                                                  As for 5 Guys I can't wait. I had tried them down in FLA and if its the same quality then I'm gonna need to start wearing pants with an elastic waistband. I'm secretly waiting though for an In and Out although hell may need to freeze in order for them to expand east and north. Have you checked their site? All locations are in the western US =(.

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                                                    TexSquared Mar 12, 2011 06:22 PM

                                                    In-N-Out requires that the beef be shipped by truck from their headquarters. Which means that all their stores must be within a day's drive of Los Angeles. Their furthest outpost is in Salt Lake City, UT. So realistically speaking they'll never make it to New York let alone Canada.

                                                    I wasn't in Pickering yet when it was still the Olive Garden. That location was a Tucker's Marketplace when I first moved out to east Scarborough (and later Pickering), and then Tucker's converted it to their failed "Circle T" concept (it didn't last a year). Great Wall took over the place soon after.

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                                                      abigllama Mar 19, 2011 01:22 AM

                                                      I also understand that In&Out keeps very tight control in their product. You can't just buy into a franchise like other chains. They decide where to open and appoint one of their own to get it rolling. I wouldn't expect one in Canada in this lifetime.

                                                      It's furstraing but when you see the inconstant stuff in a franchise I understand where they're coming from. Especially when US chains cross the border. As Tex has pointed out it usually costs twice as much and is half as good.

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                                                        damonster Mar 19, 2011 10:15 AM

                                                        In N Out is opening in the Dallas area, so never say never.

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                                          Poorboy Mar 11, 2011 10:23 AM

                                          I tend to support the locals that do it the right way.
                                          These places prepare a burger from fresh meat and hand form the burger. Many high end restos do this with the "sliders" they served at functions when these were all the rage.
                                          I would be interested to know if there are any places in Toronto that will serve a "fresh" burger cooked to order.
                                          The best I have had is still from my backyard grill.

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                                            TexSquared Mar 11, 2011 11:36 AM

                                            I support whoever does it the "right way" which to me means 1-tastes good 2-fair price for what I'm getting. I could give a rat's ass who owns the place (local or foreign, corporation or sole proprietor), or whether the ingredients are "organic/fair trade/shade grown/artisanal/100 mile/locavore" hype.

                                            To me, Five Guys does it the "right way". I won't give an opinion on Burger's Priest until I try them but so far the reviews sound very positive.

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                                              haggisdragon Apr 8, 2011 12:36 AM

                                              You've now given plenty of opinions on Burgers Priest. Have you tried it yet?

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                                      Bobby Wham Mar 11, 2011 09:58 AM

                                      Sorry, but the Big Mac is still the best burger in the city, yet to find one better

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                                        Davwud Apr 7, 2011 11:49 AM

                                        I'll go with taste.

                                        DT

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                                          TexSquared Apr 7, 2011 08:31 PM

                                          Me too. Taste trumps everything else. And Five Guys blows all the Canadian poseur chains out of the water.

                                  2. scarberian Mar 11, 2011 06:30 PM

                                    Let me get this straight, someone is actually going to open a good burger chain from the U.S. in the east end before any other location within Toronto? Wow, we usually end up with lame-o chains like Licks, Harvey's (lost count), Timmies (ugh), Kelsey's, Swiss Chalet or Shoppers' Drug Mart in one of those cookie cutter "Smart" centers, but this'll be sweeet! One location that does need a good burger joint is Morningside Crossing. All it's got is a Shoeless Joes, KFC, Taco Bell, Lick's, and a Pitaland. Not much variety... At least Black Dog isn't that far.

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                                      TexSquared Mar 11, 2011 08:45 PM

                                      Downtowners have their fair share of burger places, especially the highly touted Burger's Priest. Five Guys would be committing suicide if they tried to open there first.

                                      They're smart to open where they have minimal real competition -- the suburbs. Licks and South St. are in big trouble.

                                      1. re: TexSquared
                                        scarberian Mar 12, 2011 03:04 AM

                                        Actually I wasn't really referring to downtown, more like the west end of Toronto. Reading thread after thread on Chow you start to get a picture of the west end of Toronto getting all these restos whereas the east gets crappy chains. BTW there is a new Italian resto opening up at Manse and Kingston Rd. called BelFiero and they're suppose to have a wood burning oven for pizza.

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                                          TexSquared Mar 12, 2011 03:57 PM

                                          That's another reason why I want Five Guys in Scarborough to succeed. If they do well there, that will encourage more places to open out this way. If that location fails, expect to see more of the same-old-same-old in Scarborough/Pickering (like we need more Tim's, you can't drive more than a mile without seeing one...)

                                          By opening in the east, Five Guys is telling me that they want my business and will come (almost) to my front door to get it (borrowing from the slogan of a certain car rental agency).

                                          Chains that stay downtown or Mississauga/Etobicoke (*ahem* Chipotle *ahem* Moe's...) are asking me to spend a significant amount in fuel/transit fares/time to go there. And 9 times out of 10 they already lost me as a customer by not being convenient to me. They are telling me that east GTA residents don't matter. Well, since I don't matter to them, they don't get my money.

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                                            jamesm Mar 12, 2011 05:37 PM

                                            I'm pretty sure Chipotle et al aren't expecting anyone to go out of their way to be a customer. They aren't trying to be a destination. They haven't lost your business because they never expected or planned on it in the first place. You're not exactly voting with your dollar.

                                            1. re: TexSquared
                                              mlukan Mar 18, 2011 11:23 AM

                                              So if a chain won't open in the east and only downtown or Missisauga, you'll take it personally and boycott?

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                                                TexSquared Mar 18, 2011 08:41 PM

                                                I do take it as a slight, since I grew up in Scarborough and now live in Durham Region, and find (as has been pointed out here) that we often get the short end of the stick when it comes to restaurants (although we do have Zen!)

                                                Note that I said "9 times out of 19 they already lost me as a customer", but there's still that 1 time out of 10, when I happen to be "in the neighborhood". So if you want to call it a "boycott", it's in the same form as a Mississauga resident "boycotting" Buster Rhino's in Whitby.

                                                Oh yes, the comments thread for this article is interesting, but sad:

                                                http://www.thestar.com/business/artic...

                                                If those posters (who would rather eat at Johnny's, YUCK) represent the majority of Scarberians then Five Guys is DOA.

                                                -----
                                                Buster Rhino's
                                                2001 Thickson Rd S, Whitby, ON L1N, CA

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                                            TexSquared Mar 18, 2011 08:58 AM

                                            Just noticed that Post City News quoted me...

                                            http://www.postcity.com/Eat-Shop-Do/E...

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                                          bsv Mar 23, 2011 04:20 PM

                                          I know I might get slammed for this but I really have wanted to say this since finding about five guys burgers:

                                          I do not understand how a burger place now a days does not have a vegi burger or some other none beef burger?

                                          it will keep me out the door since not really anything for me to eat there (yes, i know grilled cheese but not the same when you want a burger)

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                                            jmarcroyal Mar 23, 2011 05:47 PM

                                            Are there any Vegetarian restaurants that have a meat dish to appease the Omnivores? I mean, its a burger joint, their target demographic are people that eat meat, so having a grilled cheese atleast provides a meatless option.

                                            They also have no worries about the peanut allergy people, keeping peanuts everywhere and using peanut oil. Not many places do that anymore, it seems that peanuts and smoking are banned in almost all public places!

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                                              bsv Mar 24, 2011 08:29 PM

                                              but you would never walk into a vegetarian restaurant and expect a meat dish but majority of burger places do offer you options of meats, be it beef, poultry, pork or vegi, people do come to expect such choices.

                                              As I posted I do expect to get slammed for this comment

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                                                LearningHow May 21, 2011 08:11 PM

                                                And the peanut thing is exactly why we will NOT be going there.

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                                                Michael N Mar 23, 2011 05:49 PM

                                                Just as you wouldn't walk into a vegetarian restaurant and deride them for not having a meat option, you shouldn't go into a meat temple like Five Guys and expect anything vegetarian.

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                                                  bsv Mar 24, 2011 08:31 PM

                                                  but why would I walk in a vegetarian restaurant and expect meat it is in there name that they do not do meat.
                                                  but burger places .. alot of them do have more then just beef burgers. (And no I am not talking of mc.d's)

                                                  only beef burger places is the exception not the norm in burger places

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                                                  scarberian Mar 23, 2011 08:27 PM

                                                  Although Burger's Priest DOES offer "The Option" which is a deep fried breaded portobello mushroom burger. You can also get that ON TOP of a regular burger ;). As others have said, burger joints are temples of meat for the meat gods and we omnivores/carnivores don't expect to get the meat option at a vegetarian or vegan resto =(. It would be nice to get at least one or two seafood or chicken dishes at a vegetarian resto. You still have Licks as an option and their nature burger is decent. When you say non-beef burger do you mean like a chicken burger, fish burger ,etc? Or did you mean non-meat burger?

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                                                    bsv Mar 24, 2011 08:22 PM

                                                    I mean exactly that I mean chicken burger or turkey.

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                                                  .alias Mar 24, 2011 08:38 PM

                                                  Does anyone know when and where the location will be in scarborough?

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                                                    TexSquared Mar 24, 2011 09:09 PM

                                                    West side of Warden south of Eglinton, near the Lowe's.

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                                                      jmarcroyal Mar 24, 2011 09:19 PM

                                                      well, if the address listed is correct, it would be IN the Lowes. Lowes address is 800 Warden, so I dont know if Five Guys is going to make a restaurant attached like a McDonalds/Walmart or Harveys/Home Depot. I drove by it and theres decent sized open empty room just to the left of the entrance, but it just doesnt look big enough to support a restaurant, and the place wouldnt be visible at all from the road. That could be solved by putting a big sign up on Warden and on Lebovic because a lot of people would be in that area shopping, meanwhile there are a ton of new stores popping up on the north side of Eglinton, which Is where I thought Five Guys would naturally go, but I guess not. Im sure a lot of decision went into that specific location anyway, so we'll see what happens...

                                                      I wonder what the plans are for that Plaza are in general, the Future Shop is gonna stay I think, the Lowes is going to stay, but everything directly across the Lot looks like its going to shut down.

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                                                        .alias Mar 24, 2011 09:42 PM

                                                        When do you guys think it'll be opening? It's closeby to me, I'd like to give it a try aha.

                                                        Looking to go down to BP soon too.

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                                                          TexSquared Mar 25, 2011 08:49 AM

                                                          One of the articles (might have been the Star) said June or July. Wish it wouldn't take that damn long....

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                                                            torontofoodiegirl Mar 25, 2011 09:11 AM

                                                            A recent article (citing a FG spokesperson) said June or July, noting that the lease hasn't been finalized yet:

                                                            http://www.postcity.com/Eat-Shop-Do/Eat/March-2011/Five-Guys-Burgers-edging-into-Toronto/

                                                            Also, per the RioCan website (the landlords) the location won't be in Lowe's, but across from it (ie. in the north-east corner of the complex):

                                                            http://www.riocan.com/Content/PDF/sit...

                                                            On their website, it seems like a done deal (ie. no indication that the lease hasn't been finalized).

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                                                              jmarcroyal Mar 25, 2011 01:01 PM

                                                              wow awesome links!

                                                              That location makes a lot more sense. The Five Guys website says the address is 800 Warden, so that is a better location. Its where the old Payless Shoes was located. I think the location needs a lot of work, maybe knock out the wall facing warden and put in some windows, put a big sign facing Warden so you could see it from Eglinton.

                                                              Hopefully it comes soon, im so glad something good is coming to that area. I know most of the stores on that side of the plaza are already vacant or close too it, so hopefully we will get some other decent stores, maybe even a Chipotle!

                                                              I hope in the next 10 years they get rid of those flea markets and the courts, demolish that whole structure and put something nice in there. How about a Dave & Busters, or some kind of entertainment other then a movie theater. Those Smart Centers are all the same, we need something original there, a destination spot.

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                                                                scarberian Mar 25, 2011 02:56 PM

                                                                They can keep the courts as that's guaranteed customers for any resto in that area as well as being an essential service for the city. But the flea markets should go. A nice Japanese resto (real Japanese not Korean/Japanese or Japanese Chinese style), a good steak house, a good seafood place although there was Boy on A Dolphin there before. Was that seafood and are they still there?

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                                                                  jmarcroyal Mar 25, 2011 03:32 PM

                                                                  I think its still there, wasnt anything special tho. The courts could move, they might bring business to the area but they can replace it with something that will bring more customers. It cant just be more restaurants and stores, there has to be another draw. The whole area is just becoming a cookie cutter smart center, it could just as easily be a stretch of pickering or oshawa or whitby. There should be something fun, original, well designed and easy on the eyes. Maybe some kind of sports/entertainment complex like Playdium.

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                                                                    TexSquared Mar 25, 2011 05:05 PM

                                                                    "nice Japanese resto"...

                                                                    Yeah, Zen could move there :-) His restaurant is so out of place in that ratty strip plaza he's in now!

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                                                                      Spelunk Mar 26, 2011 07:38 AM

                                                                      I think Boy on a Dolphin has just become a Bingo hall!

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                                                                        TexSquared Apr 7, 2011 08:31 AM

                                                                        It's had bingo for maybe 10 years now...

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                                                                          Spelunk Apr 7, 2011 02:28 PM

                                                                          Funny.. I was sure I saw a banner across the front of it last time I drove by.... Oh well.

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                                                                      TexSquared Mar 25, 2011 09:33 PM

                                                                      I agree, kick the flea market out, like we did here in Pickering (forced them to move to an industrial wasteland south of Bayly so that decent stores could move into their former lot).

                                                                      As for Chipotle, that's why I want to see Five Guys succeed there. Then it'll encourage more places to jump on the bandwagon (rather than only open downtown/Mississauga/Woodbridge and ignore Scarborough/Durham). If Five Guys fails then let's call Scarborough what it is, a Timmies on every corner....

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                                                                  scarberian Apr 7, 2011 08:16 PM

                                                                  A little OT here, but sticking with the main issue of burgers. After watching the commercials for the new shows on Food Network I was wondering if there were any food trucks in T.O. that served fresh burgers like BP and 5 Guys. That would be awesome especially when downtown after an afternoon Jay's game or when passing by City Hall.

                                                          2. Davwud Apr 8, 2011 12:11 PM

                                                            Was in the area this morning and the store that it looks to be is only just getting started with the renos. No signage out front saying what it is to be either.

                                                            DT

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                                                              TexSquared Apr 9, 2011 07:30 AM

                                                              If they aren't planning to open until "June or July" then I wouldn't expect any Coming Soon signs, until they know for sure what date they'll be ready. I dunno about you, but I get annoyed when anything is promised by a certain deadline and it isn't met.

                                                              I hope they fast-track things and open in May :-) The sooner they can start hurting the poseurs the better.

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                                                                jmarcroyal Apr 9, 2011 08:38 AM

                                                                They need a lot of work at that store. I think they need to tear down the wall facing Warden and install windows, because every location Ive seen has big windows on the front and side, and right now theres only front facing windows. Im sure theres a lot of work inside too, I mean, the last stores that occupied the place kinda let everything go....

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                                                                  TexSquared Apr 9, 2011 08:51 AM

                                                                  I hope they knock out the wall that separated Payless from EFADS and use the entire building :-)

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                                                                    EmJayC Apr 9, 2011 02:20 PM

                                                                    I am not at all impressed with Five Guys. I agree with many posters on here who say the french fries are the best thing there. The only thing I can taste on the burger is the grilled onions. If they are better than In 'n Out I have no desire to eat there.

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                                                                      TexSquared Apr 9, 2011 09:24 PM

                                                                      If you don't like In-N-Out style then you probably won't like Burger's Priest either since that's who they're cloning.

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                                                                        kingsway Apr 14, 2011 06:41 PM

                                                                        Five Guys will open early to mid May....

                                                                        They are also open at Burnhamthorpe and Erin Mills and Weston and 7...

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                                                                          callitasicit Apr 14, 2011 07:48 PM

                                                                          Five Guys while good is too freaking expensive!

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                                                                            TexSquared Apr 14, 2011 10:05 PM

                                                                            So the opening has been moved up from June-July to May... nice! The sooner they open, the sooner the poseurs close.

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                                                                              jmarcroyal Apr 15, 2011 11:29 AM

                                                                              I kinda wonder how they will do, I mean, a Regular burger, regular fries and regular drink run you around $15, which is pretty expensive, and that area is filled with dollar stores, outlets and other less expensive shopping options...

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                                                                                jamesm Apr 15, 2011 02:57 PM

                                                                                I get the idea of wanting a place to succeed but what's your personal deal in seemingly finding delight in watching 'poseurs' (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) go out of business?

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                                                                                  TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 12:01 AM

                                                                                  I know I've explained it before. I do not want Five Guys to fail, especially the Scarborough location, for a number of reasons.

                                                                                  1- Scarborough/east GTA (I live in Durham Region) often gets left out in expansion plans so we're stuck with nothing but Tim Horton's every kilometer. If 5G fails, no other chains will want to open here. I use Moe's and Chipotle as my pet peeves -- none of them are east.

                                                                                  2- Foreign investment needs to be supported and encouraged. As much as some dislike them, there would be a lot of Canadians out of work if Walmart, Starbucks, Home Depot, and McDonald's all closed up in Canada. Five Guys, if their expansion is successful, will employ a lot more people than all the Lick's, South St., Jetsun's, Johnny's... We've seen way too many American companies come in here and fail -- Krispy Kreme, Olive Garden, Outback, etc. This has got to stop. Canadian jobs are at stake.

                                                                                  3- I enjoy Five Guys on my travels to the USA and can't wait to have them conveniently located. Sort of goes with #1 -- if they fail here they might just avoid the east GTA, or leave Canada. Neither is a good thing to me. If they're successful in Scarborough maybe they'll open out my way; Pickering, Ajax, or Whitby would be great.

                                                                                  There's so much at stake here. When Five Guys opens in Scarborough I will give them my business and will spread the word. And the sooner they can knock off some of the local clones the more quickly they can expand. Just need to convince people that "local" or "been around forever" doesn't always mean good. Johnny's is garbage but they have a loyal clientele who won't even try Five Guys. That's what they're up against, they'll never knock off Johnny's. So, they need to put Licks and/or South Street out of business in order to survive here. And I hope they do it.

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                                                                                    Dr Butcher Apr 16, 2011 07:46 AM

                                                                                    While I tend to agree with some of what you say, what we need are good Canadian owned and operated businesses to employ Canadians. At one time Lick's was great. For some reason, they decided to dumb down their process which hurt quality.

                                                                                    I had a great Burger at 5 guys in Savannah, and I'm looking forward to their arrival, but, not at the cost of running out 'good' local places.

                                                                                    Johnny's serves pre-fab stuff cheap(ish), which is its attraction. Not that it's good. It too employs local people, and has local owners. The Lick's clone (Jetsun) as well. They have their niche, I'd hate to see the downside of American expansion.... Canadian owner operators going down the tubes because of American expansion.

                                                                                    As others have said, vote with your wallet. I have been to Jetsun once, same with Johnny's and South St. I choose not to go back. They are still in business which means someone is still going....

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                                                                                      jmarcroyal Apr 16, 2011 08:31 AM

                                                                                      thats the thing, South St and Jetsuns just simply arent doing anything great or special. Five Guys burger is better then those places, and their fries are better too.

                                                                                      Jetsuns talks about using only local products, local beef, local potatos etc. Thats nice and all, but that alone isnt enough to keep it in business. Everytime im in there its pretty dead, and it takes forever for them to get my order done. Was the burger bad? no, it wasnt BAD, but i have zero desire to go back.

                                                                                      The only Canadian owned/operated places that I think actually deserve a spot at expansion are Burger Priest and perhaps Burrito Boys. BB could do well with a couple locations around the city, and BP is just overwhelmed now with people travelling from all over, they could use a location or 2 downtown, maybe somewhere on Bloor West and even another location on Queen.

                                                                                      I want Local businesses to succeed, but not by default, they have to earn it. If they could come up with an idea, prove to have quality and be successful, Id say give them a shot. Til then, let some of the better American franchises come on down and give our market a shot. Worst case, they fail, best case, we have a good place to eat that provides jobs for locals.

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                                                                                        TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 12:51 PM

                                                                                        "South St and Jetsuns just simply arent doing anything great or special."

                                                                                        and neither are Lick's, Johnny's, Wimpy's, etc. If they're close by, sure, you might go, but you wouldn't make a special trip to one like you would a Five Guys.

                                                                                        OTOH, I may not have been but clearly Burger's Priest is distinguishing themselves and will do fine. Nothing short of In-N-Out expanding here and opening across the street would put them out of business.

                                                                                        I agree with your last paragraph 100%. I don't support "local" just because it's local. I support businesses that give me what I want at a fair price and with service to match that price. Regardless of who owns it.

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                                                                                          callitasicit Apr 16, 2011 12:58 PM

                                                                                          $15 for a combo at FIve Guys in my opinion doesn't constitute a fair price.

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                                                                                            TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 01:30 PM

                                                                                            I could pay less at Lick's but their product sucks so, Five Guys charges a fair price to me.
                                                                                            Like anything else, you can pay less for crap but that's a judgement call for you alone to make.

                                                                                            I guess I should rewrite that sentence:

                                                                                            I support businesses that give me what I want at WHAT I CONSIDER a fair price and with WHAT I CONSIDER ACCEPTABLE service to match that price.

                                                                                            Because not everybody will agree on what's a fair price, or what's acceptable service.

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                                                                                              jmarcroyal Apr 16, 2011 03:56 PM

                                                                                              I agree it is a bit expensive, maybe they should make a Combo option that is like $2 cheaper then buying the Fries and Drink seperately. I dont know, but it is good quality and good taste, so it is worth more then the typical fast food joint.

                                                                                              Maybe if they open a few more stores they can start offering lower prices, using an economy of scale. Ideally, a Regular Cheeseburger with fries and a drink should be between $10-$12, considering a similar combo at a Wendy's or McDonalds would cost over $9.

                                                                                              You do get a ton of fries with even the Regular, more then a Super Sized Fries at McD's or Super Biggie fries at Wendy's. Free refills for drinks if you dine in, so thats a plus, but everywhere else has that anyway. I think if they could drop prices to

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                                                                                                TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 04:18 PM

                                                                                                One thing they do which trumps so many of the competitors is "All Toppings Free". Think about it, at most burger places or "local bar and grill"s they're going to charge extra for things like grilled onions, grilled mushrooms, or jalapeno peppers, usually 50 cents to $1 each. Those are all free at 5G.

                                                                                                Comparing 5G to McDonald's or Wendy's is like comparing Ruth's Chris to The Keg.

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                                                                                                  Atahualpa May 18, 2011 06:59 AM

                                                                                                  Free toppings are a backhanded punishment to those who actually like to taste their burgers and order them plain or minimally dressed.

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                                                                                                    GoodGravy May 18, 2011 07:42 AM

                                                                                                    I'm not a big fan of 5 Guys, but the meat actually tastes good. It even has the texture of meat, not like a Harveys burger which has a weird extruded texture. As for the free toppings, I thought Torontonians liked their burgers fully dressed. That's just an observation based on how burgers are served at different places and I usually have to ask that all that stuff be put on the side or I end up w/ a burger I can't taste.

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                                                                                                EmJayC Apr 16, 2011 03:57 PM

                                                                                                I have to agree with you there, callitasicit. I had a very nice hamburger at a pub . Organic beef, nice and jucy, bacon, sauteed mushrooms, cheese and good looking tomatoes with hand cut Canadian fries. Could have used more cheese on it, but at least it wasn't that fakey cheese food stuff that was on the 5 Guys burger. A little over $10.00. And I was full and satisfied. It was in a nice place with a waitress that came to the table, no peanuts, no crowded, loud atmosphere. Sure, we had to tip the waitress, but in comparing that to 5 Guys, I'd take it in a minute!

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                                                                                                Davwud Apr 17, 2011 11:43 AM

                                                                                                Opinion.

                                                                                                Is $13 for a combo at Hero a fair price??

                                                                                                I'll pay an extra couple bucks for something good.

                                                                                                DT

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                                                                                                  dyc999 May 23, 2011 12:26 AM

                                                                                                  $15 for a burger combo is ridiculous... even if I'm getting meat is from cows fed with gold. I don't see how any place can justify $15 for a "BURGER" combo.

                                                                                                  Lets see..
                                                                                                  - grade A beef
                                                                                                  - pop = sugar & water (approx $4 for case of 12, a bottle for $2)
                                                                                                  - large fries = bag of yukon gold $5 (maybe 2-3 potatoes)
                                                                                                  - bun = $4 for dozen
                                                                                                  - varies toppings (tomatoes, mushrooms, onions, etc) you're not get more that $2 worth on your burger.

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                                                                                              scarberian Apr 16, 2011 06:26 PM

                                                                                              Yeah what the hell did happen to Licks? I remember their burgers tasting like beef and smoke. Simple with a hint of salt and pepper. Now it's like eating meatloaf... a bad meatloaf IMO and it's lost its original juiciness.

                                                                                              As for supporting locals, I will support good businesses. Businesses that offer good quality products and decent service. I haven't had any problems with services with Licks or Johnnys, although the employees at South St. in Durham seemed lost at the grill. The product at Licks and South St. have disappointed me. As for Johnny's I am man enough to admit that I will go there when coming home from a poker game. It's tradition for me. ;) ever since those late nights out with the guys back in my high school days.

                                                                                              I personally can't wait for 5 Guys and if it's anything like the US version then I'll definitely make it my stop instead of Johnny's.

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                                                                                                callitasicit Apr 16, 2011 07:59 PM

                                                                                                It is not like Five Guys is offering an organic burger either, so why the hefty price tag? The problem is we pay so much more for our burger here in Canada than in the United States. Correct me if I am wrong but I heard that the price of a Five Guys combo is significantly less than that of the same combo here in Canada.

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                                                                                                  TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 09:25 PM

                                                                                                  I have the price list for Five Guys in Southfield, MI in front of me (thankfully I kept it) so we can compare. I have not seen the Canadian pricing. Hope this helps.

                                                                                                  (burger prices are regular size followed by little size)
                                                                                                  Hamburger 4.79/3.59, Cheeseburger 5.29/4.09, Bacon Burger 5.39/4.19, Bacon Cheeseburger 5.89/4.69

                                                                                                  Kosher style hot dog 3.29, Cheese dog 3.79, Bacon dog 3.79, Bacon cheese dog 4.39.

                                                                                                  Veggie sandwich 2.89, Cheese veggie sandwich 3.39, Grilled cheese 2.89.

                                                                                                  Regular fries 2.69, Large fries 4.29

                                                                                                  Regular drink 1.89, Large drink 2.09, Bottled water 1.69

                                                                                                  All toppings free (**mayo, lettuce, pickles, tomatoes, grilled onions, grilled mushrooms, ketchup, mustard**, relish, onions, jalapeno peooers, green peppers, A-1 sauce, BBQ sauce, hot sauce).

                                                                                                  "Everything" or "All the way" you get the toppings I enclosed with asterisks.

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                                                                                                    callitasicit Apr 16, 2011 10:09 PM

                                                                                                    Thanks for that however I have an issue with the fact that they don't price their menu on their Canadian website. From your price list posted, I know now that the prices here are significantly higher.

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                                                                                                      TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 10:13 PM

                                                                                                      They don't include prices on their U.S. website menu. To get the prices you have to pick a location and try "order online".

                                                                                                      Not surprised it's higher here. What isn't? (clothing, groceries, gasoline, electronics, vehicles, taxes, etc etc etc).

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                                                                                                        callitasicit Apr 16, 2011 10:19 PM

                                                                                                        I just got the prices of the Five Guys from Surrey, British Columbia and the prices are as follows:

                                                                                                        Hamburger 6.99/ 4.99, Cheeseburger 7.99/ 5.99, Bacon Burger 7.99/ 5.79, Bacon
                                                                                                        Cheeseburger $8.59/ 6.59.

                                                                                                        Regular Fries 3.49, Large Fries 4.59

                                                                                                        Regular drink 1.99, Large drink 2.29, Bottled water 2.29

                                                                                                        Ridiculous mark up in prices! All I can say is that they have no justification for charging close to $15 for their combo period. I am pissed off that I have to pay about four dollars more for my combo here than in the States! Aren't we getting the same product in both countries?

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                                                                                                          TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 10:26 PM

                                                                                                          All I can say is, I'm willing to pay their prices. Those prices aren't high enough to convince me to go eat crap at poseurs like Lick's, Jetsun's, South St., et al.

                                                                                                          Part of the higher cost is higher beef prices here. Cartel-controlled prices. But you already knew that....

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                                                                                                            callitasicit Apr 16, 2011 10:34 PM

                                                                                                            The quality of the product is much better than that of those places you listed outside of maybe South Street Burger, which I must say doesn't taste as good as Five Guys.

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                                                                                                              TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 10:37 PM

                                                                                                              Exactly. In this market if you want (arguably) better than Five Guys you'd be going to Burger's Priest which is out of the way, closed Sundays, and plagued with long lineups and occasionally poor service, or m:brgr, which is a blatant ripoff.

                                                                                                              That or you make it yourself.

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                                                                                                                TexSquared May 25, 2011 09:37 PM

                                                                                                                And another thread mentions m:brgr is closed (in Toronto). Good riddance. One less local poseur for Five Guys to bury 6 feet under....

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                                                                                                              T Long Apr 16, 2011 10:51 PM

                                                                                                              A Burger and Fries costs 40% more in Canada compared to the States. That does seem rather excessive to me.

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                                                                                                                TexSquared Apr 16, 2011 11:27 PM

                                                                                                                This is probably a better comparison:

                                                                                                                http://www.urbanspoon.com/u/menu/1532...

                                                                                                                A regular cheeseburger at 5G has 2 patties, and they're charging $7.99. Over at The Burger's Priest, the equivalent item (the "double double"), is also $7.99.

                                                                                                                That's a fair comparison since both shops have to use cartel-priced Canadian beef, and both shops put out quality product (I've never been to BP, I admit, but based on most posts here I can safely assume they have a quality product).

                                                                                                                I will not entertain comparisons of pricing between the poseurs and Five Guys. You'll pay less at South St., but hey, crap always costs less.

                                                                                                                Large fries at 5G are $4.29 in the US, $4.59 in Canada. That's close enough, 30 cents more is nothing. Potatoes and oil are cheap so this is fair.

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                                                                                                                  T Long Apr 17, 2011 08:07 AM

                                                                                                                  Agree, it's certainly much more relevant to do a comparison with the local competition. I note that BP charges for grilled onions which I always opt for so for me 5G's might actually be cheaper than BP. Still, I can't help thinking that when I visit Vancouver and Seattle, I will know where to better hunt down a 5G! However, I do hope 5G will be successful in my Scarborough.

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                                                                                                                    TexSquared Apr 17, 2011 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                    Exactly. I want it successful in Scarborough too as I explained in detail above. I hope success in Scarborough means expansion to Durham Region for me!

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                                                                                                                      jmarcroyal Apr 17, 2011 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                      I just hope that if they successfully expand(meaning they open a bunch of stores in Southern Ontario or all over Canada, that the prices come down due to economy of scale. Thats why the prices are cheaper in the States, they have hundreds of locations pooling resources getting more bang for their buck. Im pretty sure the ingredients at the Canadian restaurants are from local suppliers, so they dont get that economy of scale yet, atleast not for 3-4 stores.

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                                                                                                                        TexSquared Apr 17, 2011 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                        As long as they have to use Canadian ingredients (due to protectionist laws) they will have to overcharge (due to cartel-controlled pricing).

                                                                                                                        In the same way McDonald's charges $1.29 - $1.69 for items that go for $1.00 in the USA. McDonald's Canada definitely has the economies of scale you're referring to.

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                                                                                                                          kingsway Apr 17, 2011 04:29 PM

                                                                                                                          Cheese, taxes (HST, real estate, CPP), labour and beef prices are all much higher in Canada, it is impossible to compare US and Canada

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                                                                                                                    jayt90 May 23, 2011 05:43 AM

                                                                                                                    Tex, there is no beef cartel in Canada.
                                                                                                                    Beef is traded freely from Mexico to Peace River.
                                                                                                                    Canadian beef is raised humanely on grass, hay and finished on grains such as wheat, oats soy and barley.

                                                                              2. Bobby Wham Apr 27, 2011 01:29 PM

                                                                                Is it opening this weekend can anyone confirm?

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                                                                                  jmarcroyal Apr 27, 2011 05:35 PM

                                                                                  im pretty sure its not, i drove by a week ago and it was nowhere near finished, the only change I saw was a sign on the window that said "Five Guys Coming Soon".

                                                                                  If it is somehow opening this weekend, that would be great, but if I were to guess it might be done by the May 24 long weekend.

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                                                                                    TexSquared Apr 27, 2011 08:36 PM

                                                                                    Seriously doubt it will be ready that fast. See my post above; on April 17 they were just getting started working on the inside.

                                                                                    I'd say bookmark this:

                                                                                    http://fiveguys.ca/locations.aspx?fAd...

                                                                                    As of right now the Scarborough location is labelled "coming soon"; I'm sure once there's a confirmed opening date it will go there.

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                                                                                      jmarcroyal Apr 28, 2011 12:36 PM

                                                                                      Do they do anything for their opening like a discount or anything like that?

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                                                                                    jmarcroyal May 8, 2011 06:39 PM

                                                                                    Just thought Id give an update on the upcoming Five Guys. I drove by a couple days ago and there was a Now Hiring banner on the building facing Warden. I passed by today and the place looks like its ready for business. The sign is outside, the inside looks completed, the only thing remaining would be the rest of the hiring and the training, so If I were to guess, Id say it opens in less then 2 weeks(but if it opened this weekend I wouldnt be surprised).

                                                                                    In another good note, the empty unit nextdoor to Five Guys now has a tenant, and this one came as a big surprise to me. Its going to be a California Sandwiches!

                                                                                    This is wonderful news. Im sure some people could care less about that place, but a lot of people like them, unfortunately they have only been in the West End, so this is a welcome edition to Scarborough. Things are looking up!

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                                                                                      IndigoAttila May 9, 2011 05:35 PM

                                                                                      beauty! that is fantastic news. twice fantastic. nice for the east end. :)

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                                                                                        TexSquared May 15, 2011 10:53 PM

                                                                                        Sounds like a double whammy. Five Guys for eat-in and then next door to CS for take-out to eat later!

                                                                                        How long will Jetsun's last with 5G across the street? 3 months tops? I cannot wait to see them fail. Hero, South Street, Licks, you're next....

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                                                                                          Poorboy May 16, 2011 02:11 AM

                                                                                          I hope they do not turn out to be a bust like Krispy Kreme. That was a disaster with a pathetic product. If Five Guys live up to the hype, I will be one very happy camper.

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                                                                                            TexSquared May 16, 2011 08:48 AM

                                                                                            That's what I'm afraid of. Will they go the way of Quizno's, Starbucks, and other successful imports, or crash and burn like Krispy Kreme, Olive Garden, etc.

                                                                                            But since you brought it up, I will repeat what I have said before. Anybody who says Tim Horton's makes better donuts than Krispy Kreme, has a palate like a cow's backside (borrowing from Gordon Ramsay). Better product doesn't always mean financial success. OTOH, brainwashing a whole country into thinking that it's their patriotic duty to line up at their drive thrus, does.

                                                                                            Support foreign investment! Support superior products! Support Five Guys and send the poseurs into the history books!

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                                                                                              Atahualpa May 18, 2011 07:12 AM

                                                                                              I will say it. K-K donuts are inedibly sweet. Tim's donuts are god-awful, but at least there are options that are much less painfully sweet.

                                                                                              Even if you disagree, Tim's has publicly said they make more money off of their non-donut items these days.

                                                                                              What we need is a Donut Factory type place a la LES Manhattan.

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                                                                                                GoodGravy May 18, 2011 07:26 AM

                                                                                                I think you mean Doughnut Plant. You really think there's a market for donuts that cost $3.50 in Toronto?

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                                                                                                  Atahualpa May 19, 2011 04:02 PM

                                                                                                  Thank you, I did mean them.

                                                                                                  Yes, there would be. People buy the crappy sweets on offer at Starbucks which are similarly high priced.

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                                                                                                    GoodGravy May 19, 2011 06:55 PM

                                                                                                    Speaking of, I went there tonight for dessert after Madison Sq. Eats. The donuts may be 3-4x the price of Tim Hortons, but they're 10x better so they're actually a bargain.

                                                                                      2. duckdown May 17, 2011 11:41 AM

                                                                                        I don't suppose anybody has heard anything about a Brampton location?

                                                                                        People in other threads were mentioning Brampton had a planned location but their website makes no mention of it. Just wondering if anybody else has heard anything.

                                                                                        Thanks

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                                                                                          kingsway May 18, 2011 04:35 PM

                                                                                          For the Bramptonians, it looks like there will be one next to the Starbucks on the NW corner of Bramalea City Centre (there is supposed to be a Running Room next door too which should shed some o the guilt). By the looks of things it might open this year.

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                                                                                          Bramalea Cafe
                                                                                          18 Kensington Rd, Brampton, ON L6T4S5, CA

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                                                                                            duckdown May 25, 2011 10:13 AM

                                                                                            Ahh, so that's where it is. I thought it might be somewhere on Bovaird drive, maybe around Trinity Common or at McLaughlin & Bovaird

                                                                                            Thanks for the heads up :)

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                                                                                          jmeggs May 18, 2011 07:19 AM

                                                                                          So is the Scarborough (Warden) location open now?

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                                                                                            cubmike74 May 18, 2011 09:30 AM

                                                                                            I drove by on sunday and it was still not open, but it looked like it was ready to go right away.

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                                                                                            .alias May 19, 2011 08:59 PM

                                                                                            Any news if they're open yet?

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                                                                                              kingsway May 20, 2011 04:39 AM

                                                                                              TODAY....is the day.

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                                                                                                jmarcroyal May 20, 2011 11:22 AM

                                                                                                It is officially open, I drove by earlier and saw a bunch of people inside, so its already busy! Ill have to stop by later tonight, if not this weekend at some point but its just nice to know itll be around now whenever I get a Five Guys craving!

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                                                                                              danKar May 20, 2011 02:38 PM

                                                                                              It's open! I went today, opening day May 20 and it was great. Two patties (about 7 ounces altogether) free fried onions and mushrooms for

                                                                                              It's open! I went today (opening day May 20) and had a doubleburger with free mushrooms for $6.49 plus tax, a good value. Fresh tasting and juicy. I'm sure they'll do well. It's in the same parking lot as the Lowes but on the north side.

                                                                                              1. scarberian May 22, 2011 02:27 PM

                                                                                                Well I took the family to the Warden location and we had a satisfactory meal. Wasn't able to take pics as the burgers begged to go into our stomachs before I was able to take out my phone. Anyway prices are just over $4 for the single 3.5 oz patty "Little Burger" and starting just over $6 for the double patty (7 oz in total) burgers. I had the cheeseburger, wife had the regular burger and daughter had the "little burger". They had a good list of toppings w/o any extra charge. We also ordered one large fries that we shared and I shared a large drink with the daughter. If you're eating inside you get free re-fills.

                                                                                                The staff are friendly and even ask if you've ever ordered from 5 Guys before. They'll walk you through the process and explain the varying sizes. You get a number for your order and when you give your toppings for your burgers each burger is numbered 1-10+ so no one in a group gets confused as to which burger is which. There were a few ahead of mine, but I probably only waited 10 minutes for my order.

                                                                                                The burgers are big (bigger than BP) and have a good feel to them (weight). They are cooked over a flat top like BP and they are juicy, but I found BP burgers juicier throughout. Good flavour to the burgers especially with the cheese. VERY generous with the fresh cut fries (almost reminiscent of NY fries in appearance). You get a large size cup filled with the fries AND then the fry guy filled a small bowl with extra fries and dumps it into your bag! Hence one order of fries would be good for a couple or three people to share. We ordered the cajun fries and we didn't find them too salty. Yes you do end up smelling like cajun fries throughout the day afterwards. As much as I appreciated the quantity of fries, the staff need to tweak how they cook it. Ours had a starchy texture to it like it was slightly undercooked. The wife and I prefer BP fries (never had a bad order from them) over these fries. If 5 Guys does a decent job next time on the fries it would round out a very good meal. Overall out of 5, I would give them 3.5. If they get the fries right then it would definitely be a 5.

                                                                                                For me BP is still number one (5 out of 5), BUT at least we can now say we have a legitimate number 2 burger joint. If I'm in the area or too lazy to go all the way to BP then 5 Guys is for me. I can't see myself ever going back to Harvey's or a Lick's for a burger anymore.

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                                                                                                  dyc999 May 22, 2011 02:35 PM

                                                                                                  I don't know if I'm more disappointed with the Burger or the foodies on this board that hyped this burger joint.

                                                                                                  I know there are two main schools of thought when it comes to burgers.
                                                                                                  1) Some people think the patty should be strictly 100% beef with no seasoning and use the toppings to favour it. (It would be consider meatloaf in the view of people in this group).
                                                                                                  2) Some people thing the patty should be seasoned and use the topping as an enhancement. I subscribe to this view.

                                                                                                  After reading all the positive comments on Five Guys Burgers, I had to try it. I ordered their regular hamburger (2 patties) with onions, mushrooms and A1 sauce as my choice of toppings.

                                                                                                  Burger taste: 2/10
                                                                                                  Fries: 7/10
                                                                                                  Value: 1/10
                                                                                                  Service: 8/10

                                                                                                  The burger in my humble opinion was tasteless, greasy mess. Each patty are about the size of a McDonald's hamburger, but priced like a Quarter Pounder, it's pricey! I would describe the patty visually similar to Wendy's, but greasier. My regular burger with large fries and drink came to about $15.00.

                                                                                                  I am will to pay for quality and I"m sure they use 100% 'quality' beef, but there is absolutely no value at this place. I've had better frozen burgers than this (even President Choice is better!). I would be surprised if this place lasts more than 2 years. Especially with the numerous alternative burger places around the area. (Licks, Jetsens Tucker's, Wendy's, A&W, Burger King, McDonald's, Mr. Greek Express, The Firkin, etc..)

                                                                                                  There was a comment made on this thread that that Five Guys Burgers would be able to give competitors like Licks and Jetsens a run for their money, that is the statement is priceless... in my opinion untrue, but priceless.

                                                                                                  I think I'll stick with Licks, a good solid burger that doesn't require you have take out a loan to have decent ground chuck. I'll the let all the 'food snobs' hype and enjoy their pricey brand name burger made with organically feed, hand rub, magic dust sprinkled beef.

                                                                                                  Burger lovers be warned.

                                                                                                  ~Majorly Disappointed

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                                                                                                  1. re: dyc999
                                                                                                    scarberian May 22, 2011 07:51 PM

                                                                                                    Those of us who have gone, tried it and enjoyed it will beg to differ. We're not hyping it (maybe some are) for the sake that it's a popular US burger joint. I gave it a decent review, not stellar, but decent so I wouldn't say I was hyping it, but recommending it IMO. Others who've reviewed it and recommend this place just love this type of burger like a BP burger. Yes we'd like to taste beef in our burger and not a meatball with filler. I felt 5 Guy's burgers had a good beef flavour that was enhanced by the toppings (it was seasoned with salt and pepper). As for greasy, it was juicy not greasy. They make a very good burger, not as good as BP, but close. The patties are 3.5 oz and that's close to a quarter pound. Were you referring to the "Little Burger" or a regular burger? If you're comparing it to a regular burger then your argument is invalid since that is a double patty which is 7 oz and close to 1/2 a pound not a 1/4 pound.

                                                                                                    We're not food snobs, just people tired of the same dry weird tasting burgers that we've had to endure in Toronto. Before Burger's Priest I had reserved Harvey's as my favourite burger joint by default. Lick's used to have a good burger until they ruined it by adding "stuff" to it. The Lick's burger has a weird texture and flavour now that doesn't compare at all with their original. Again this is IMHO. I still have to try The Real McCoy and see what they're like. I'm surprised you gave their fries 7/10 whereas I felt that was their weak point. See we even differ on that point ;). As for your warning, please don't add "Burger lovers" as those who subscribe to your 1st group consider themselves burger lovers too. Although I didn't quite understand your point about the meatloaf for group 1. Were you saying that group 1 thinks 100% beef without filler but with toppings is meatloaf? OR were you saying that those in group 1 would think the burgers from group 2 are to be considered meatloaf? I enjoy meatloaf especially meatloaf sandwiches, but I wouldn't consider it a burger.

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                                                                                                      jmarcroyal May 22, 2011 11:43 PM

                                                                                                      Ive been to the various locations a few times now and I gotta say the quality of the fries is inconsistant at best. The fries are never really bad, they are always decent, but if you get a batch done just right, those fries are delicious. I had some cajun fries that were done just right and those fries, perfectly seasoned and fried, were up there with the best Ive had. Not quite at the top.

                                                                                                      Id still say BP has better fries, but thats more of a shoe string. Id also put Real McCoy's fries above this place, especially since I can get a Steak on a Kaiser, fries, gravy and a pop for around $12, one of my favorite takeout meals. Remember Scarberian, get the Steak on a Kaiser over the Mojo Burger, you can thank me later!
                                                                                                      (I went recently and tried the Steak with Mozzarella cheese on it and damn, that took it to another level! maybe one day ill add bacon!!!)

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                                                                                                        dyc999 May 22, 2011 11:44 PM

                                                                                                        LOL! Well I knew I was asking for a lip lashing when I posted my review scarberian, so I'm ready to take my lumps. I actually do appreciate the opinions of you and most people on this board, even though I may not agree with them. I'm sure my little rant must of rub some 'seasoned' Chowhounders the wrong way, for that I do apologize, but that was not my intent. Perhaps my passion for food got the best of me today ;) I tend to have a bit of a sarcastic streak in me, which may have made its way into my review, but I also attempt to give a honest review of Five Guys Burgers. (I think you may have taken my review too literary
                                                                                                        )
                                                                                                        So let me try to clarify somethings and give my rebuttal...
                                                                                                        - When I refer to the two main school of thoughts or camps, what I mean is some people (group 1) believes the patty should be just 100% beef, no fillers period. (salt & pepper IMHO can hardly be consider seasoning) This camp believes the beef should be left in it's purest form and that adding anything to the beef would alter the taste of the beef and turn it into essentially a "meatloaf". I would generally say that people in this group use toppings to 'add' favours to the patty.

                                                                                                        The other main camp (group 2 - which I fall into) believes the patty should be WELL seasoned with a variety of spices and herbs (ie; coriander, mustard, paprika, peppercorns, garlic, bread crumbs, etc..). I would again generalize that this group uses toppings as more of an enhancer to the beef. *For the record, I don't think there is a right or wrong, I know it's just a matter of preference.

                                                                                                        So I'm going to acknowledge this... Yes, the place had a steady flow of customers when I was there and some people did appear to enjoy their burgers. However I was not alone in my disappointment, I went on this adventure with a group of six people who I would also consider foodies... not one of them was impressed. One of them thought the burger was so small he had to fill up on the free peanuts (yes, a bit of sarcasm slipping in again).

                                                                                                        "As for greasy, it was juicy not greasy"...
                                                                                                        Ok, I respectfully have to agree to disagree with you. That burger 'juice' you love, felt pretty greasy to me. So maybe we have different definitions on what 'juicy' and 'greasy' means. I think you'll agree that all good tasting burger must have a good ratio between beef and fat for favour. But the amount of grease this burger was ridiculous, IMHO.

                                                                                                        "The patties are 3.5 oz and that's close to a quarter pound"...
                                                                                                        You win this one, my original post was not really fair when describing the size. I was trying to make a point about how small the patty is relative to say a Licks burger. The example I used was a bit extreme (the McDonald's hamburger). In hind sight I should have used the size of a Wendy's patty.

                                                                                                        "We're not food snobs, just people tired of the same dry weird tasting burgers that we've had to endure in Toronto"...
                                                                                                        I understand my "Food Snob' label may sound harsh, but there is a persistent element on Chowhound that think they are the food gods (I'm not accusing you or anyone in particular). I love and want to hear people express their experiences and opinions, but I can do without the elitist condescending tone in some of the posts.

                                                                                                        Far too often popular 'common' restaurant chains get stomp on by the 'Food Snob's on this board and anything that is trendy or gourmet gets a free pass. Toronto has a variety of styles from basic frozen patties to gourmet angel blessed burgers to suit all tastes.

                                                                                                        I understand the dry burger part, I too am on a quest for burger utopia, but I don't think Toronto should be label burger hell either. Toronto has some decent burgers. I would challenge anyone to name another city that's known for just their burgers. Toronto is at least on par with other places.

                                                                                                        "Weird' to me means adventurous! I take pride in trying new burger combinations. Feta cheese on my burger, sure! Kimchi you bet! Mushrooms, pickles on a coriander ginger infused patty, why not?! I can see if you're a traditionalist burger person, Toronto may appear to have limited choices, but maybe people just have to try something a bit crazy and on the wild side. ;)

                                                                                                        scarberian, I appreciate your feedback. And realize I too need to be more mindful of my 'tone' when posting. I will be more objective.. just the facts! ;)

                                                                                                        ~ May you be successful in your quest for burger utopia!

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                                                                                                          jmarcroyal May 22, 2011 11:51 PM

                                                                                                          im guessing you wouldnt like Burger Priest then...

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                                                                                                            dyc999 May 23, 2011 12:14 AM

                                                                                                            Hi jmarcroyal,

                                                                                                            I haven't been able to try Burger Priest yet, but it's on my list. From the comments posted here, it appears to be similar in style to the Five Guys Burgers.

                                                                                                            I try to keep an open mind when it comes to any food. I can appreciate 'gourmet' patty or your simple frozen puck. A good burger to me is a combination of a moist favourful patty, fresh toppings and a good bun.

                                                                                                            I tend to like my burgers char broiled and WELL seasoned (I'm not talking salt & pepper) with a toasted bun.

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                                                                                                              scratchybuddha May 25, 2011 09:53 AM

                                                                                                              Bigger buns would have been nice! With all the topics you can put on, it would be nice to take a bite of the burger without it falling apart in your hands.

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                                                                                                                scratchybuddha May 25, 2011 10:16 AM

                                                                                                                Sorry...it's toppings not topics!

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                                                                                                            scarberian May 23, 2011 03:01 AM

                                                                                                            I see your point my burger friend. For me and others from camp 1 the ingredients you mention should be added on top of the burger not in it. Adding it in the burger would turn it into something else for us. I know where you're coming from as I did grow up eating the type of burgers you enjoy. My parents used to make these types of burgers in order to "stretch" a pound of beef between several people during barbecues. Today I just can't enjoy a burger unless it's 100% pure with just salt and pepper. Kimchi? Sure but added it on top. Those who subscribe to camp 1 are adventurous we just don't like the other ingredients in our burger but on top of it. At home I make my burgers like those of BP and 5 Guys just simple with salt and pepper, but my toppings vary i.e. coleslaw, feta cheese, buffalo wing sauce, various chutney's , to even just simple like pickles, mayo, lettuce and tomato.

                                                                                                            As jmarcroyal said you probably won't enjoy Burger's Priest as their burger is very similar to 5 Guys.

                                                                                                            Hopefully when I get back to 5 Guys again I'll get better fries. It's interesting that both my favourite burger joints BP and 5 Guys have issues with their fries i.e. sometimes they're amazing, sometimes they're duds.

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                                                                                                              jmeggs May 23, 2011 04:54 AM

                                                                                                              ``Juicy not greasy``. Ahh, euphemisms!

                                                                                                              PS: Five Guys rules!!

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                                                                                                              DUH CAR May 23, 2011 09:50 AM

                                                                                                              Just tried the burger and fries. Burger tasted very good. Couldn't tell if it was greasy as the toppings masked that aspect. I had a double with cheese and bacon, but would recommend just the single patty and skip the cheese and bacon as the toppings add enough extra tastes.

                                                                                                              Fries were good and maybe a bit undercooked.

                                                                                                              Did it as takeout as less than 10 minutes away by fast car.

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                                                                                                              duckdown May 25, 2011 10:15 AM

                                                                                                              Man, I'm not doubting your review or opinions but just wanted to say that Lick's is REALLY, REALLY bad now. I went a couple weeks ago and literally had to throw the hamburger out after biting into and getting a very very rubbery consistency and it did not taste like it used to.. I think they've done some changes very recently, even the appearance of the burger is completely different now. Let me know if you go to Lick's any time soon.

                                                                                                              PS: Lick's is the same price as Five Guys and you get less fries

                                                                                                              PPS: The cajun fries at Five Guys are disgusting and probably loaded with MSG.. Stick to the sea salted ones

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                                                                                                                dyc999 May 25, 2011 05:17 PM

                                                                                                                Hey duckdown,

                                                                                                                I haven't been to Licks lately, but I might have to make a trip this weekend to wipe out my 5 Guy Burger experience from memory!l (I'm just kidding to you 5 Guys lovers!).

                                                                                                                I do agree with you and the others that Lick's has been sliding downward in burger taste, texture and quality. (I think it started when they switch to their frozen patties). I don't think it is the same recipe as the original, they probably had to tweak it for the masses.

                                                                                                                But I come from the camp of the WELL seasoned burger (meatloaf style for lack of a better term). So for me, I still consider it a solid WELL seasoned burger. YES the taste has changed compared to the original recipe, but I don't think it is a bad change... it's just a different taste. As for the texture.. no arguments here. Yes, it is going to be more 'rubbery' because it's a frozen patty. A Frozen patty will never be able to compete with a made 'fresh' daily patty in texture.

                                                                                                                I also realized after posting my review it's not fair to compare two different styles of burgers (100% beef patty vs. meatloaf style patty). There will always be a bias depending on what style of patty you prefer.

                                                                                                                The way I see it, only really objective way to compare burgers is to compare burgers that use the same style of patty like Burger Priest vs. 5 Guys vs. Craft Burger vs. Allen's, etc... this way you're comparing 100% beef patties to 100% beef patties and 'Meatloaf Style' patties to 'Meatloaf Style' patties.

                                                                                                                Scarberian's post made me realize that there are a large group of Chowhounders just as passionate about their 100% beef burgers as there are people like me who are passionate about the WELL seasoned meatloaf burger! I accept that I appear to be in the minority when it comes to Lick's. I guess more Lick's burgers for me lol!

                                                                                                                BTW thanks for advising on Lick's pricing... I don't remember them being that pricey! Damn inflation!

                                                                                                                PS. Can someone from the 100% beef camp explain to me why you like your burgers this way? I'm not trying to take a jab, I honesty don't understand the thinking behind this. The way I see it if I wanted to eat something 100% beef, I would order a steak on a bun instead of a piece of premium meat that has been grind down to a burger.

                                                                                                                That's why I like my burger patty mixed with spices and herbs.

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                                                                                                                  jmarcroyal May 25, 2011 05:59 PM

                                                                                                                  I like the 5 Guys/Burger Priest style the most right now. For me, its all about the meat. good meat has such a great taste on its own, maybe with a dash of salt and pepper. Maybe its the carnivore in me, but sometimes I just like that pure meaty taste. For me, my favorite burger of that style is a double-double(double cheeseburger) with a bit of ketchup. damn that is good eats.

                                                                                                                  But im fairly openminded too, I also see a burger as a blank canvas that can be done up in countless ways. What I love doing at home is sauteeing some mushrooms, then i bring em out to the bbq, cook up the burgers, as they are almost done, toss some bacon on the bbq, when they cook up, toss that and mushrooms on the burger and cover with a cheese slice. That right there is delicious!

                                                                                                                  As for that style, the 100% beef, Its just something I crave once in a while. Other times im more then happy getting a burger with all the toppings available(but no onions, yuck!), oh, and cant forget extra pickles!

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                                                                                                                    dyc999 May 25, 2011 06:26 PM

                                                                                                                    jmarcroyal, that saute mushroom, bacon, cheese BBQ burger you make sounds like something I would definitely appreciate, but I would need some caramelized onions on that baby to add a layer of sweetness lol!

                                                                                                                    Maybe one day I'll understand what you mean in regards to your 100% beef craving...

                                                                                                                    When I crave for a burger, I don't want it to taste like a ground steak. I want the patty to be well orchestra combination of beef, spices and herbs - I want to experience a favour explosion! I think you still get a good 'meaty' taste from the meatloaf style burger patties. And that's the carnivore in me talking! ;-)

                                                                                                                    When I have a craving for 100% beef - I satisfy my craving with a steak pan fried in butter, sprinkled with salt and pepper with your classic side of fried button mushroom & onions.

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                                                                                                                      jmeggs May 25, 2011 08:26 PM

                                                                                                                      1. 100% beef vs. meatloaf
                                                                                                                      2. Fresh vs. Frozen

                                                                                                                      Two very different issues. Licks has long since moved to frozen patties, and that's what accounts for the rubbery texture (same as Harveys)

                                                                                                                      But I can see both sides of the "additives" debate. Some places go overboard, adding eggs and breadcrumbs in addition to spices to their burgers. But the other extreme is just pure beef, which can be bland (if you've ever been to Fuddruckers, this is what you get).

                                                                                                                      I think this is what makes a truly good burger an art and not a science... striking the right balance. But frozen will always get a thumbs down from me.

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                                                                                                                        TexSquared May 26, 2011 10:08 AM

                                                                                                                        Fuddruckers does sprinkle on a spice mix onto the beef patties before grilling, but it isn't mixed in. Many clone recipes for it have appeared online, like this one:

                                                                                                                        http://www.food.com/recipe/fuddrucker...

                                                                                                                        I agree, frozen gets a huge thumbs down, but even worse are fillers.

                                                                                                                        By far the worst hamburger patty I have ever had were the "bearpaw burgers" sold by M&M Meat Shops. I got a box for free through some promo and it was so bad we didn't finish the first burger we grilled and tossed the rest of the box into the trash. The toasted wheat crumbs and soy protein made worse by freezing it, made for a nasty texture indeed. Rubbery and spongy at the same time, yuck.

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                                                                                                                        Davwud May 26, 2011 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                        I find steak has a bit of a different taste than does ground beef. It's also a texture thing. Simply forming patties, simply seasoning them and then on a flat top produces a beautiful crust, a great texture and fabulous taste. I've done the mix in type burger but I usually do those on the grill. Adding garlic, seasonings, worch, etc. No bread crumbs though.
                                                                                                                        A steak on the grill is also amazing.

                                                                                                                        I'll also add that a good burger is a good burger. It doesn't matter what has happened to it before it gets to my mouth. I've had frozen patties which were better than non frozen. I've had meatloaf style patties that were better than 100% GB. Ultimately, good is good and bad is bad.

                                                                                                                        So my question to you then is, if you like the meatloaf style burger then why not just make meatloaf??

                                                                                                                        DT

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                                                                                                                      scarberian May 26, 2011 03:55 AM

                                                                                                                      It's the purity of it. I like to taste beef in my burger. For me salt and pepper is the only seasoning you need since they bring out that beef flavour (esp. salt). The toppings then enhance that beef flavour, BUT you can still taste the beef. I just like my taste buds to know that I'm tasting good quality beef.

                                                                                                                      It's also the texture. If you handle the ground beef too much (such as adding spices to it you need to mix it thoroughly) or add filler to it, it will end up with a different texture than if you simply took the fresh ground and smashed it on the flat top. IMO if I wanted spices I'd get a kabob from Little India on Gerrard or make meatballs or my mom's meatloaf recipe. I love seasoned beef as well, but I find it more in a different category.

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                                                                                                                      255 Queen St W, Toronto, ON M5V1Z4, CA

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                                                                                                                        jmarcroyal May 26, 2011 01:29 PM

                                                                                                                        I love at Burger Priest when they pull out a tray of little balls of fresh ground beef. Their beef just has such a nice soft pink colour, it looks so fresh and so good. as you said Scar, just a bit of salt and pepper and smash er on the flat top. that crust it gets is so good, sealing in the juices....

                                                                                                                        havent been there for a while now, I went monday at around 9:30 and unfortunately they ran out of beef! Ofcourse it was a big letdown, Ive been craving BP for a while now.Anyway, Plan B took me to this Five Guys and atleast I was able to get a good burger!

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                                                                                                                          scarberian May 26, 2011 05:32 PM

                                                                                                                          You should have stopped by the IGA down there and picked up a pound of ground. Then if BP runs out tell them you brought your own. They can make 4 nice 1/4 pounds for you. Now it's probably not the same quality as the BP meat (maybe, maybe not) but you'll get your burger and their fries! Now would they still charge you full price ;) ? Hey we've got BYOW restos here, why not BYOGB =).

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                                                                                                                    GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 08:23 AM

                                                                                                                    I agree on the tasteless meat. Really very bland for the price. I'd rather they keep half the fries and give me some flavour in the meat. The fries while real are nothing special.

                                                                                                                    I think Jetsens is a better deal personally. Licks has been poor since they went FROZEN patties.

                                                                                                                    I only tried it once and plan to give it another try LESS the fries.

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                                                                                                                    Dimwit May 28, 2011 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                    Went today for lunch. Not crowded at all which was nice. Service was very fast.

                                                                                                                    Had the "Cheeseburger". Two patties with cheese and toppings. If you're a connoisseur don't bother with the cheese. Horrible stuff! Flavoured plastic that has the only quality of a low melting point. The patties themselves were good. Better than I expected, juicy, not overcooked, flavourful. The bun was average but not too big. Had sesame seeds on it but it was fairly generic.

                                                                                                                    Overall I'd give it an average grade. Plus on the meat, minus on the cheese, plus on the toppings tho not overwhelming, at least not a ridiculous upcharge. The biggest hit I'd give them is that for the money I'd much rather get a grilled patty, not a griddle fryer. Might try them again but it's not worth the drive.

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                                                                                                                      mstestzzz002 May 28, 2011 08:56 PM

                                                                                                                      Similar to my experience today.

                                                                                                                      I had the cheeseburger - but I also asked for grilled onions and mushrooms as some of my toppings. The grilled toppings made the internal burger slippery and the onions and mushrooms tended to fall out of the burger.

                                                                                                                      The music was really loud which, I think, lead to my order of "Five Guys style" fries turning into "Cajun style" fries. When I noticed the error in the order, I went to an available cashier and explained the problem. The cashier went over to the guy preparing the order and explained the problem and how to correct it. But I still ended up with Cajun style fries! Two strikes and Five guys is out. While thicker than most other places, the fries are just okay - the Cajun style seasoning ends up covering your fingers. I prefer onion rings and Grindhouse burger bar is the only one that comes close these days since Stockyards took onion rings off the menu. :(

                                                                                                                      I agree with Dimwit - order the Hamburger, not the Cheeseburger - no fries - but only if you're in the area. If you're in Central/West Toronto, don't bother - Stockyards and Burger's Priest are closer - unless you really want all you can eat peanuts/free refills of pop.

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                                                                                                                        Spelunk May 28, 2011 09:00 PM

                                                                                                                        I also had a cheeseburger last weekend, and I do think that was a mistake! Next time, I might just try the single patty option.

                                                                                                                        And yes... the music is way too loud!

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                                                                                                                          jmarcroyal May 28, 2011 11:15 PM

                                                                                                                          I think you guys are missing the point about the burger. This is done in a particular style, classic griddle smashed burger with that nice crust, and the cheese is classic American cheese, or processed cheese. That cheese and that style burger just go together, its a classic combo. If you are looking for a char grilled burger with real cheddar cheese, obviously 5-guys isnt the place for you. Even Burger Priest uses a similar cheese...

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                                                                                                                            Dimwit May 29, 2011 04:09 AM

                                                                                                                            Oh I know about the processed cheese, processed is part of the appeal, but this stuff is gawdawful! Literally flavoured plastic. Yick!

                                                                                                                            I'd be more than happy to try them again, just never again the cheeseburger.

                                                                                                                            BTW not only is the music too loud, but it's all treble so it's even more ear piercing. *sigh* Maybe it's different if the place was packed but nearly empty with all that hard surface it's a torture. I ate my food and fled quick. Perhaps that's the point?

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                                                                                                                              plug May 30, 2011 04:14 AM

                                                                                                                              had it last night and thought both the burgers n fries were great.
                                                                                                                              i prefer medium - medium rare but the burgers were still very juicy well done.
                                                                                                                              had a nice crisp crust from the flat cooktop

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                                                                                                                              Googs Jun 10, 2011 06:57 AM

                                                                                                                              jmarcroyal, if you happen to be in that neighbourhood and want a "classic" burger, try Goody's Diner on Manville. They're in the space that used to be Cajun Bajan. Cheaper, better, faster.
                                                                                                                              http://www.goodysdiner.com/

                                                                                                                              Personally, I find every time I walk by 5 Guys it smells distinctly like McDonald's. Hmmm... plain beef on a flat top.

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                                                                                                                              133 Manville Rd, Toronto, ON M1L4J7, CA

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                                                                                                                                jmarcroyal Jun 10, 2011 12:05 PM

                                                                                                                                dude, thats like 2 minutes from my house and Ive never heard of it, and it all sounds pretty freakin great. I guess in a way it sucks that it closes so early but it is a breakfast and lunch place, so thats cool I guess. Ill have to stop by after work sometime soon, I cant wait!

                                                                                                                                What have you had there, whats good? How are the burgers cooked(Grill I assume?)

                                                                                                                                Also, I never heard of the Cajun Bajan and damnit that sounds great too, I love cajuny stuff and now im pissed that I havent ventured in and around that area, even thought I go down Comstock all the time.

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                                                                                                                                133 Manville Rd, Toronto, ON M1L4J7, CA

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                                                                                                                                  GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                  Wow! The Cajun Bajan was one of the worlds best kept secrets. Great food there while it lasted.

                                                                                                                          2. red dragon May 29, 2011 12:29 PM

                                                                                                                            We tried 5 Guys today (Sunday). We got there when it opened at 11am. They had a large number of staff working (8) for a slow lunch rush.

                                                                                                                            We ordered 2 bacon burgers, large fries and shared a drink. My husband liked the free peanuts. The burgers were big (2 patties each). With tax, our bill was $24.36.

                                                                                                                            I know a lot of people like their burgers without any salt/pepper or seasoning, and I always cook with very little salt at home, but even these burgers tasted very bland. I almost wished I had asked for a bit of salt and pepper. The patties were (in our opinion) a bit dry on our visit.

                                                                                                                            What we didn’t like the most was the bun. It might not look like it from the pictures, but it was soggy, and didn’t hold up to the 2 patties + toppings. Both the top and bottom tasted more like a steamed bun. It was a major disappointment.

                                                                                                                            The fries were hot and tasted very similar to NY fries. They were cooked perfectly. We shared a large order and it was the right size for us.

                                                                                                                            The bacon was crispy but very skimpy. My husband said it was the thinnest, cheapest portion of bacon ever.

                                                                                                                            Not related to the Toronto boards, but our best burger is across the border (Red Robin). Now that is our absolute favourite burger, with endless steak fries.

                                                                                                                            Service was friendly, music was unbelievably loud, so loud that we couldn’t have a normal conversation and after awhile, I had to ask them to turn it down.

                                                                                                                            I don’t know if we’ll try it again, as we personally found the burgers to be bland and tasted dry, and the bun was the biggest deal breaker for us. I believe it’s either not toasted enough, or being wrapped in foil caused the bun to become more steamed.

                                                                                                                            I’m glad we gave it a try though (next on our list is BP, South St. and Magoo’s).

                                                                                                                            I took several pictures for you fellow Chows.

                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                             
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                                                                                                                              jamesm May 29, 2011 12:50 PM

                                                                                                                              It's comical that this place is getting this much attention both good and bad.

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                                                                                                                                jmeggs May 29, 2011 01:24 PM

                                                                                                                                Why is that comical? It's generally considered the 2nd best burger chain in the U.S. after In-n-Out. Of course its emerging presence in Canada is going to generate buzz.

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                                                                                                                                  mlukan May 29, 2011 03:13 PM

                                                                                                                                  I think the buzz this is getting is an indicating factor on the sad state of food in the suburbs of Canada. Many WASPS will only eat at chains and this is a new one they can ad to the list. I personally wish Culver's would cross the border, that would make me excited. Five guys ,not so much.

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                                                                                                                                Davwud May 29, 2011 01:36 PM

                                                                                                                                You also have to keep one thing in mind RD, I for one like the bread on things like this to lose structural integrity. But to each their own.

                                                                                                                                DT

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                                                                                                                                  jmeggs May 29, 2011 01:41 PM

                                                                                                                                  Let me translate for DT: if the bun falls apart, it might be a good thing!

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                                                                                                                                    red dragon May 29, 2011 02:15 PM

                                                                                                                                    Hi jmeggs,

                                                                                                                                    Yes, food is very subjective, which is why I always add "personally" or "imo" to my posts :)

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                                                                                                                                      TorontoJo May 29, 2011 02:19 PM

                                                                                                                                      Personally, I agree with your review 100%, red dragon. I find 5 Guys' burgers (at least the ones I've tried in the States) to be incredibly bland and desperately in need of salt and pepper. IMO, the falling apart bun just leaves me with greasy hands and doesn't add anything positive to the experience. ;o)

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                                                                                                                                        red dragon May 29, 2011 02:25 PM

                                                                                                                                        Hi TorontoJo, which location/s did you vist?

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                                                                                                                                          TorontoJo May 29, 2011 02:50 PM

                                                                                                                                          One in Jersey City and one in lower Manhattan. Burger patty had good texture and no flavour. Toppings were good and plentiful, though fried onions were incredibly greasy and added to the nightmare of the bun.

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                                                                                                                                            red dragon May 30, 2011 05:36 AM

                                                                                                                                            Sorry to hear that. NJ and NY have incredible food choices!

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                                                                                                                                    red dragon May 29, 2011 02:23 PM

                                                                                                                                    Yes, to each their own

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                                                                                                                                  wontonfm May 29, 2011 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                                  I finally tried Five Guys this weekend (Warden/Eg) and wasn't that impressed.

                                                                                                                                  I was surprised by the boxes and boxes of bulk peanuts free for the taking. In the age of so many with peanut allergies it seemed like an interesting choice (and trust me, I'm not one to banish foods on account of allergies). I did appreciate the free snack while I waited.

                                                                                                                                  I ordered the Little Hamburger and Regular Cajun Fries. The meat was definitely lost amongst all the toppings and the substantial bun. Overall the meat seemed kind of flavourless so I'm kind of glad I didn't opt for the regular burger.

                                                                                                                                  I was hoping to love the cajun fries but was kind of overwhelmed. The flavour really seemed to be on the surface of the fries rather than integrated throughout. I also felt they could've used a bit more of a kick. The portion was also WAY too much. I ate about about 1/3-2/3 of the fries.

                                                                                                                                  Sure, Five Guys is a bit better than a Harvey's or South Street but I'd opt for my local burger place (Burger Shack) ANY DAY over Five Guys.

                                                                                                                                  WON
                                                                                                                                  http://whatsonmyplate.net

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                                                                                                                                    Atahualpa May 29, 2011 09:12 PM

                                                                                                                                    Tried them today. Had the cheeseburger and regular fries.

                                                                                                                                    Found the burger bland and the cheese bad tasting (and I like/want processed cheese). For a similar style, Burger's Priest is so very much better on all fronts.

                                                                                                                                    Fries aren't my thing. I rarely like them and these aren't an exception (but neither are BP's).

                                                                                                                                    Won't be back.

                                                                                                                                    1. TorontoTips Jun 9, 2011 10:46 AM

                                                                                                                                      Hey Kids!
                                                                                                                                      Checked out Five Guys yesterday for lunch, after all the excitement on here.
                                                                                                                                      Overall, I'd give them a C+ or maybe a weak B-... maybe

                                                                                                                                      First, let me say that I am automatically pre-disposed to liking any place that has fresh-cut fries and burgers grilled on the flat-top, and overall I give The Burger's Priest an A (the A+ is awaiting a better/bigger location, lower prices, and/or milkshakes and onion rings :-)).

                                                                                                                                      So, back to 5 Guys - Love the idea on paper, but the actual execution is where it falls down.

                                                                                                                                      Burgers: C+

                                                                                                                                      Pros - fresh burger, flat-top grilled, great toppings

                                                                                                                                      Cons - meat was oddly flavourless with no beefy taste, they were massively overcooked to the point of dryness (I watched the grillman break my burger in half with his spatula to check it's done-ness - ACK!), yet they were missing the nice crunchy crust one expects from the flat-top, and the processed cheese was briefly rubbed on the flat-top and dropped on the patty as it was lifted off the grill - with no melt time. I wanted to love it, but I couldn't.

                                                                                                                                      Fries: B
                                                                                                                                      Pros - fresh cut fries (lord deliver me from coated 'crispy' fries, and strike down those who value only crispness of a fry, forsaking taste, texture, quality, etc.) and TONS of fries, like crazy TONS!

                                                                                                                                      Cons - not sure if these are twice-fried, but they are missing the caramelization and that yummy golden-brown flavour that happens at places like Burger Priest, Real McCoy, Swiss Chalet, Burger Shack, Golden Star, etc. A little too stiff and starchy for me to 'love' them, but solid NYF-style fries.

                                                                                                                                      Other thoughts - prices a little high, decor is minimalist to the point of looking like a butcher shop, not an eatery, (ya' gotta work hard to make McD's seem well-decorated) and running the gauntlet of cars entering the driveway at high speed, to get to the front door uphill from the parking loys was adrenalin-raising, but none of this would matter if the food was as good as The Burger's Priest, which it just isn't - at all.

                                                                                                                                      All-in-all:
                                                                                                                                      OK, not great. I'll stick to The Real McCoy, Burger Shack, etc. for my quickie burger & fries fix, and when 'the crave' cannot be ignored any longer, I'm off to cue-up at The Burger's Priest for an american style flat-top burger.

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                                                                                                                                        Michael N Jun 9, 2011 12:06 PM

                                                                                                                                        Yeah, they definitely seem to have consistency issues at Five Guys. On one visit the cheese in my cheeseburger was completely melted all the way through, and the person I was with had cheese that was unmelted and cold. So I guess it depends on whoever is manning the grill. I've also had varying degrees of doneness/juiciness, though I've never had one that was flat-out dry.

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                                                                                                                                          GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                          Your review sounds like my experience there. (Warden Ave,) That minimalist design of the place and screaming music tells me they want you to eat elsewhere.

                                                                                                                                          And soon that will be right next door at California Sandwiches. You can get a burger and fries anywhere. No need to spend over $14 to do it. But no place in Scarborough makes a veal that will compete with CS.

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                                                                                                                                            Googs Jul 17, 2011 08:55 AM

                                                                                                                                            Au contraire.
                                                                                                                                            http://www.calabriabakery.ca/contactu...

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                                                                                                                                            1772 Midland Ave, Toronto, ON M1P, CA

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                                                                                                                                              GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                              I tried them about 4 years ago. The problem with almost all veal places in Scarborough is that they bread it, cook it and then toss it in a serving tray of sauce until someone comes to buy it. YUCK. That crisp fresh fried crunch is part of the magic I'm waiting for.

                                                                                                                                              Oops we're off topic! :)

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                                                                                                                                          Dive4Ever Jun 13, 2011 08:00 AM

                                                                                                                                          Have now been 5 times and here are my thoughts; really wanted to give this place a chance to wow me as we have been to many in the US. The ones in the northern states are MUCH more dry than in the south, (maybe southern states allow for lower internal temps, maybe they just don't care what the gov tells them), Savannah GA and Nag's Head Island NC are very close to a "perfect" burger IMO.

                                                                                                                                          Up here though, they seem to take daddy dalton's words very seriously. I too have noticed the grill guy breaking open the patty to make sure it is done to an internal temperature of a million degrees.

                                                                                                                                          The fries were perfect the first 2 visits, (once Cajun and once reg), but the other times were still starchy and not fully cooked.

                                                                                                                                          This last time, I even asked them if they could not cook the patty so much and they told me that it had to by law be fully cooked.

                                                                                                                                          I will continue to visit when south, but for when I am at home, BP and Great Burger Kitchen will be my choices as they will both cook less if asked.

                                                                                                                                          I appreciate that the "doneness" of a patty is a matter of personal preference, but why can we not let people make their own choice?

                                                                                                                                          The menu at Bardi's steakhouse used to say it best in the ordering guide:

                                                                                                                                          WELL DONE, burnt, dry and without flavour

                                                                                                                                          As I said before, internal temp is up to you, but in my opinion you need some pink and or red to fully enjoy.

                                                                                                                                          sorry if I have offended!

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                                                                                                                                          56 York St., Toronto, ON M5J 1S8, CA

                                                                                                                                          Great Burger Kitchen
                                                                                                                                          1056 Gerrard St E, Toronto, ON M4M 1Z8, CA

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                                                                                                                                            Smorgasbord Jun 13, 2011 08:20 AM

                                                                                                                                            Eh, may as well add to the chorus...

                                                                                                                                            I've been twice now. The first time I had the 2-patty burger and we each had an order of fries, the quantity of which is obscene- value for money, but not really worth the calories [esp. the Cajun fries, the flavouring of which has the consistency of sand]. The next time I ordered the little cheeseburger, and the patty was tiny and weirdly bear-claw like in shape, like a hunk was taken out of it. The SO figures the burgers are wrapped tightly to give the bun that 'steamed and therefore fresh' appearance/taste, but to me it ends up being gummy-textured wonderbread. The price point is pretty high, but this place is slammed at lunch anyway. Like most U.S. chains in Canada, I will say the service is superior to any Canadian chain and the store is spotless. I won't go back, but there is a California Sandwiches going in next door at the Scarb. location, which I also predict will be equally busy.

                                                                                                                                            Too bad, as I wanted to like it- years ago when in San Diego I did a week-long 'burger tour' of U.S. chains we didn't have here [In-n-out, Fatburger, Carl's Junior, Jack in the Box, 5 guys, etc. etc.] and thought it was one of the top 3.

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                                                                                                                                              themiguel Jun 21, 2011 02:50 PM

                                                                                                                                              Tried the scarborough location over the weekend, verdict: good not quite great.

                                                                                                                                              First off the fries are actually amazing, maybe the best I have ever had for any kind of chain resto and most indies.

                                                                                                                                              The burger was good, a touch too dry for my liking, which really destroyed any subtle beefy taste. All in all it might be one of the best fast food burgers I have had, but Burger's Priest simply destroys them - it's the best burger I have ever had - period.

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                                                                                                                                              1. re: themiguel
                                                                                                                                                Poorboy Jun 30, 2011 12:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                Gave the Five Guys a second try today as I had to make a trip to Walmart. OK, so I don't see what the fuss is about. I agree, this is a fast food joint and not what I would call a hand made burger. Better than McD's, BK, and Harvey's etc. but not even in the same league as the Burger's Priest , Allen's and Globe Bistro.

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                                                                                                                                                  GoodGravy Jun 30, 2011 07:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                  I'll never understand the, "If it's not the best, it's not worth having" mentality. It's a hamburger and 99% of the places in Toronto suck. 5G is a burger chain that does good burgers. Not great, not mind blowing, just good. Better than McD's, not as good as BP. What's wrong w/ that?

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                                                                                                                                                    jamesm Jun 30, 2011 07:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I don't think there's anything wrong with it not being the best in the world. I think it's just a reaction to all the of "It's going to put everyone else out of business!" and "finally a real burger they way real burgers are meant be!" posts that lead up to opening.

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                                                                                                                                                      mlukan Jun 30, 2011 07:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Agreed, this place has been way over hyped on here. My wife had a cheeseburger with no toppings the other day and it is clear they rely heavily on their toppings for flavor. The meat was almost flavorless(no salt) had a rubbery texture and the cheese can't hold up to heat. My "all the way" burger was just ok, nothing special, just good. Not worth a trip out of downtown. For me, if I eat burgers all of the time, unlike some, I will get huge fast, so when I get a burger it should be close to the best because its a once in a while thing. I don't want to waste a once in a while experience on average burgers. The best burger out there, is not that different in price from the worst, so why shouldn't we demand the best?

                                                                                                                                                      I also don't understand how they will put anyone out of business either. Just because 5guys comes to Canada, doesn't mean our standards of what we eat has changed. People will still support garbage.

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                                                                                                                                                        GoodGravy Jun 30, 2011 11:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                        The build up of hype was fun to watch. I knew it wouldn't match expectations, but my guess is the hunger for something better than McD's and Licks is strong so much hope was pinned on 5G.

                                                                                                                                                        As for demanding the best, there's nothing wrong w/ that, but at the end of the day, it's just a hamburger. If I'm close to 5G and want a burger, I'll go there. If I'm near BP, I'll go there. If I'm close to Stockyards, I'll go there. I'd rather have many better than average choices scattered around town than have to make a long and special trip for a burger.

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                                                                                                                                                          T Long Jun 30, 2011 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                          After reading this thread and also the Burger's Priest thread, I feel better about getting my favorite retail burger fix from a local Wendy's....just their standard hamburger is fine. Sure I'll try these other places if convenient, but will not have any high expectations.

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                                                                                                                                                            jmarcroyal Jun 30, 2011 12:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                            McD's is what it is, its fast junk food. I dont like most of their burgers but I can enjoy a Big Mac and their fries are great most of the time. Hell, even their coffee is pretty good, and I also dont mind their McMuffins for breakfast, and I love their hash browns. But, its just a quick fix, I wouldnt go out of my way for it but when its 5:30am on my way to work and Im starving, Ill grab a breakfast from em.

                                                                                                                                                            I also love the Wendy's burgers and their new fries, Nice beefy flavor in the burgers, even their bacon tastes great. Gotta love the Baconator!

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                                                                                                                                                          Poorboy Aug 2, 2011 09:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Got to say that I was getting some work done on the car today so I stopped in for round 3. It was better this time. Music was a little loud for me at this location. I figured out what I liked. The burger was a nice couple of pieces of meat cooked properly on a plancha type grill. The way Mom used to make them with fresh ground meat years ago in the skillet. A small hint of pink inside. I made sure I did not load it with toppings. So for now, they are the top of the chains in my book. Regular fries were very good. Chip shop quality and I mused to myself how awesome they would be served up as poutine. They would be hard to beat. Plenty of parking.

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                                                                                                                                                            Davwud Aug 2, 2011 12:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                            See. You've just described my visits to the one in Huntsville, (Al. west) The east location and the one here at Weston/7 have been very average at best.

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                                                                                                                                                          scarberian Jun 30, 2011 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I'm not sure about the 5G burgers being flavourless. I was in the neighbourhood (5G's is one of those joints where you wouldn't go out of your way to get one... unlike BP... but if you're in the neighbourhood, you'd go there vs. McD's) and my regular cheeseburger had plenty of flavour. It also didn't have a rubbery texture as mlukan complained, it was quite satisfactory. As others have said, it beats the McD's, Harvey's, A&W, BK and Licks, but it is not in the same league as BP. Again I wasn't that impressed with their fries, there's something about BP fries that makes 5G fries taste like McCains. They just seem more starchy for my liking.

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                                                                                                                                                            jmarcroyal Jun 30, 2011 09:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                            I think BP uses Yukon Gold and 5 Guys uses Russetts, and those potato's dont have that great of a taste, so they rely on seasonings and ketchup. The BP fries have a nice potatoey flavor and with a bit of salt, they taste amazing.

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                                                                                                                                                              scarberian Jul 1, 2011 07:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                              I wonder too if it's also the way they're cooked at 5G. I've had both regular and Cajun and although the Cajun had good flavour due to the spices, the texture of the fries are meh. Again this is my opinion of the fries, some may like 5G fries. I know some here can't stand the BP fries. I actually love Malt and Salt's fries (Lawson location) and even friends of mine can't stop eating them. 5G has got to do something about their fries.

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                                                                                                                                                                jmarcroyal Jul 1, 2011 09:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                some of my favorite fries are from Real McCoy', fantastic, and the BP fries, which are more of a Shoe-String fry like McDonalds are the best around when you get em just right...

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                                                                                                                                                                  GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 08:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  The fries don't seem twice fried to me. Or if they are, it's not done right.

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                                                                                                                                                                    jayt90 Jul 17, 2011 09:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    Twice fried fries are a joke of convenience foisted on us by cooks who want to freshen up pre-cooked fries. They wouldn't dare do this for for fish or chicken.
                                                                                                                                                                    Try your own single fries at home, Robuchon method, and you'll see how good they can be.

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                                                                                                                                                                      GlennScarborough Jul 17, 2011 11:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Its to finish the cooking process and prevent a starchy fry. and is less convenient than the fried once that I suspect 5G Burgers does it. As for the Robuchon method, I had never heard of it. But cooking in lower temp oil then cooling the fries before the full temp final fry has been the standard for decades at the best chip trucks or fish and chip shops.

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                                                                                                                                                                        tjr Jul 19, 2011 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        The Robuchon method does produce tasty fries, but twice-fried fries are not (at least, in an ideal world), used to freshen up pre-cooked fries. Twice-fried fries all you to achieve the proper texture on the inside as well as the crispy outside which you can't really do properly in a single fry.

                                                                                                                                                                        French and Belgian-style frites are (pretty much) always twiced-fried for this exact reason.

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                                                                                                                                                                          jayt90 Jul 19, 2011 07:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          I'm surprised at finding a tjr inconsistency. Oh well.
                                                                                                                                                                          My informal sampling of non believing home cooks who became champions of the Robuchon single fry method is 4 for 4 converts.
                                                                                                                                                                          I really think the type of potato, and its age, S.G., and type of oil are more important than single or double fry.

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                                                                                                                                                                            tjr Jul 19, 2011 08:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I think the potato itself is a pretty important element as well. Depending on the cut of the fry, though, a single fry usually produces an inferior fry compared to a double-fry (fry fry fry fry fry).

                                                                                                                                                                            There are numerous other fry tricks that produce better fries as well, but, like the Robuchon method (which I think produces great fries when done properly), fries aren't necessarily something that is treated with the ideal method of preparation when done in this sort of setting :-)

                                                                                                                                                                            To bring it back on topic: Five Guys fries in peanut oil, which means I won't be judging them anytime soon. I've also never had an even half-decent fry at BP; they've always been absolutely terrible.

                                                                                                                                                              2. re: Poorboy
                                                                                                                                                                Googs Jul 2, 2011 09:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                I'll say this one more time, then take m leave from this thread. IF you're in that neighbourhood AND you want a burger, try Goody's Diner. DON'T make a special trip for it. Just relax already.

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                                                                                                                                                                133 Manville Rd, Unit 17, Toronto, ON , CA

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                                                                                                                                                                  scarberian Jul 2, 2011 01:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Unfortunately you have to be in that area ONLY on a Monday to Friday AND between 6 am to 3:30 pm. otherwise Goody's is closed! It's kind of hard to try this place when my work ends at 4 pm and going there for lunch on a weekday would be impossible. I had 5G burger after watching a movie (Transformers 3) and it was ~9pm by the time we got out of the theatre.

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                                                                                                                                                                    Googs Jul 16, 2011 07:08 AM

                                                                                                                                                                    The good news, Scarberian, is that Goody's Diner just changed their hours to 9:00am-7:00pm. Still only Mon-Fri, but at least an opportunity to visit after work. I've immensely enjoyed everything I've had so far. It's the first place I've been to in Ontario that I believe would qualify for Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives. Hands-down the best burger I've had in decades and they're only part of a small, well-conceived menu,

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                                                                                                                                                                      scarberian Jul 17, 2011 07:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Are you sure? I went on both their web site and Facebook page and both still say 630 am - 3:30pm. Oh well you know more about this place than I do so I'll drop by after work some time this month and give them a go. I always like eating at diners so I'm hoping for a good experience. BTW thanks for the heads up Googs.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Googs Jul 17, 2011 08:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        100% positive. They have a sign in the window and I confirmed it in conversation with them. I sure do hope you like it. You've given me a lot of good advice over the time I've been a CH.

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                                                                                                                                                                          scarberian Jul 19, 2011 01:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Went over to Goody's and I just want to say, "Thanks for the heads up Googs!". Very good diner with friendly service, clean restaurant and decent prices. I went by today for lunch (I'm on vacay =D) and had their burger with fries and drink. The burger was excellent; however you can't really compare it with BP because it's cooked differently. It is definitely better than 5 Guys and any other burger joint in the area.

                                                                                                                                                                          Goody's grills their burgers and it's a good 8 oz homemade sirloin burger. For a grilled burger, Lick's needs to visit this place and see how a grilled burger is done right. My burger was moist, with a good texture and had good beefy flavour. Personally I could have done without their homemade relish (pickles and corn) as it made my burger a bit sweet for me. Next time I'll ask for no relish. It also had a garlic mayo that complimented the flavour. OVerall it was very well made burger. Their regular fries were okay. They are shoestring and NOT fresh cut. I'll probably go for the sweet potato fries next time as I believe those were fresh cut. I'll definitely go back and try the other items on their menu. The owner is a young guy and I hope this place stays in business. My bill for lunch with tax and tip was $14.

                                                                                                                                                                          BTW for soups he had homemade seafood chowder today and a lobster bisque.

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                                                                                                                                                              warlock Jul 16, 2011 12:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                              After all the hype,made a visit to the Scarborough Location....Ordered the Burger with Cajun Fries and a drink...The cajun Fries were awesome...one word for the Burger "Underwhelmed"....No flavour on the patty....Like someone pointed out,they rely on the toppings for the taste.....though it had two patty,the circumference is smaller than any burger I've had.....Would I visit again?...No way,Jose...Next stop will be BP......for $13,I hope they give me a burger worth writing home about....

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                                                                                                                                                                iMarilyn Jul 16, 2011 12:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                The equivalent burger at BP is $8.

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                                                                                                                                                                  callitasicit Jul 16, 2011 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Burger Priest's burger is much tastier than Five Guys imho. However, I think Five Guys have way better french fries.

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                                                                                                                                                                    jamesm Jul 16, 2011 03:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    I'm indifferent to fries so I don't feel qualified to comment unless they are spectacular or an abomination but I found the difference between the fries at BP and 5 guys negligible. However, the comparing the burgers isn't even really fair. They're on entirely different levels. The burger at BP has a beautiful crust with an moist, juicy interior and a nice rich beef flavour. The 'gimmicky' options are also -- of those I've tried -- more than just a good description on a menu. All the flavours elevated the burger and made sense. The best thing I can say about 5 Guys is it's better than Wendys. Not terrible by any stretch, but it's perfunctory fast food. I guess their plan is to roll out in the burbs which is smart because they stand to benefit from less, or any, competition.

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                                                                                                                                                                      warlock Jul 16, 2011 05:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      I agree with jamesm ....5GB are not terrible but if I'm paying $13 and change for a burger,fries and drink then I'm expecting a better burger then what I was served....

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                                                                                                                                                                        jmarcroyal Jul 17, 2011 10:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        if traffic is lite, Burger Priest is 10 minutes away or less!

                                                                                                                                                                  2. Breadcrumbs Jul 16, 2011 01:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    There's a sign up at the Lowe's/Walmart SmartCentre on Stevenson Road in Oshawa saying "Five Guys Coming Soon!"

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                                                                                                                                                                      Poorboy Jul 17, 2011 12:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      I've made the comparisons and the only thing I can say is that 5G is a step up in the "chain" type burger places. They will likely do well as a chain however those of us with more discriminating taste buds or should I say adventurous tastes will prefer the ilk of BP. That being said, nothing wrong with a fried bologna sandwich :) If only I could find a real bologna chub that isn't all cereal.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. grandgourmand Jul 17, 2011 03:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Texsquared...have you been here yet? Sorry, can't read all the 229 replies to see if you have your 2c worth. Considering you really want to support these guys, to put the poseurs out of business, etc...would be curious to hear your thoughts.

                                                                                                                                                                      My 2c, 5G is nothing to write home about. It's fine, but it didn't make the earth move for me. I've only had it in the states, not the Scarborough location. Much more excited about Cali's coming to the area.

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                                                                                                                                                                        kingsway Jul 20, 2011 04:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        When BP can execute consistent product in 800+ locations and keep up to the volume of a typical Five Guys I feel fair comparisons can be made.

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                                                                                                                                                                          grandgourmand Jul 20, 2011 04:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          But I'm not comparing to BP. I very plainly believe that 5G is ok, at best.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Googs Jul 21, 2011 05:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            GG, it would give me great pleasure if, next time you're Warden & Eglinton way, you gave one of Goody's appro\ximately dozen(?) burgers a whilrl. You're the pro palate of all things ground and grilled imo.

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                                                                                                                                                                              tjr Jul 21, 2011 09:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Googs, as this is more of a pub-style burger, do they cook to order? I'd definitely try it out if they do.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Googs Jul 22, 2011 06:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                I've never asked the question. I always go with how the house makes it first without special requests. I've never needed to adjust a thing on their burgers. It's moist and beefy as is. Perhaps give them a call tjr. Just a reminder that their new hours are 9am-7pm.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  tjr Jul 22, 2011 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks! *crosses fingers*

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                                                                                                                                                                        ylsf Jul 25, 2011 08:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I personally haven't been to Five Guys in Ontario but I did enjoy my burger in NY when I went (without knowing what it was before hand but just walking by it a few years ago). Anyway, I was with my parents on the weekend and we passed by the Five Guys on HWY 7 and I commented on it because I knew that had gone there before and were raving about it. That is very unusual for my parents to do. My dad is especially picky and he isn't really a fan of restaurants at all. My parents told me the second time they went wasn't very good at all. They told me the first time the burger and fries were excellent but sounds like after their second experience they have been turned off. I am not sure exactly what went wrong the second time (they just kept saying it wasn't as good as the first time, not really worth going again, etc) but maybe there are issues with consistency? I have read before that there are issues with consistency regarding the cooking of fries, not sure with the burger itself.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Davwud Jul 25, 2011 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          If you don't get someone who knows what they're doing you can easily dry out the burger cooking it. You can also end up giving someone a greasy mess. I'm less concerned about the later problem because I like "Wearing" my food but it can get really bad. I'm also noticing that onion management is a bit of a problem with them. I got one in Al. that had the root part of the onion in amongst the way too many onions and it really was off putting. (Wasn't the only time either.) Even taking them off. And I LOVE onions. Too much is too much though.

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                                                                                                                                                                            jamesm Jul 25, 2011 04:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            It's weird that they have consistency issues. I thought consistency was the one advantage of chains.

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                                                                                                                                                                              cupidom Jul 26, 2011 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              I went to the new 5 Guys location in Stoney Creek on Paramount Drive last night after my round of golf. He is a quick review:

                                                                                                                                                                              Burger: Small patty... not all that flavourful. The bun was too big, but tasted pretty good. The toppings were great.
                                                                                                                                                                              French Fries: Amazing. I had the regular and cajun fries.
                                                                                                                                                                              Value: Poor. I spent $11.80 for a small, one patty burger (looked not much bigger than a JBC from Wendy's), a regular size fries (which got nailed in 60 seconds) and a refillable pop.
                                                                                                                                                                              Service: Great. Friendly, knowledgeable staff.
                                                                                                                                                                              Would I go back: Possibly... definately after a night out at the bar.
                                                                                                                                                                              Overall rating: 7/10

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                                                                                                                                                                                Davwud Jul 26, 2011 10:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                7/10 is only a possibly go back??

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                                                                                                                                                                                  cupidom Jul 27, 2011 12:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm craving it already, so i'll definately go back soon.

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                                                                                                                                                                          canmark Aug 1, 2012 09:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          A downtown location at Yonge/Dundas (329 Yonge St.) is "coming soon."

                                                                                                                                                                          Interesting recent article in Forbes: Five Guys Burgers: America's Fastest Growing Restaurant Chain
                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburk...

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                                                                                                                                                                            millygirl Aug 1, 2012 03:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            One is opening up at Laird and Eglinton.

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                                                                                                                                                                              ylsf Aug 30, 2012 08:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Interesting.... HMV downsizing, Silversnail opening up in the 2nd floor area, Five Guys on ground floor:
                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.thegridto.com/blog-post/fi...

                                                                                                                                                                              Too bad it isn't open for TIFF, but, probably for the better!

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                                                                                                                                                                                abigllama Sep 10, 2012 02:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                Saw the sign yesterday after the gym. Very glad they're opening a location in the downtown core.

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                                                                                                                                                                                gaudreaur Aug 1, 2012 07:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                One thing I found interesting is how close this 5G was to the Big and TAll clothing store. That's how I discovered it... was out shopping for clothes at Mr Big and Tall down the street. In Ajax, they opened next door to a George Richard's Men's ware. So I go in and buy my 4X golf shirt and slink over to 5 guys for a nice healthy burger and fries. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                1. kwass Aug 30, 2012 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  For anyone who's interested, a new 5 Guys is coming to Weston Road and Major Mackenzie in Vaughan

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                                                                                                                                                                                    kwfoodiewannabe Aug 30, 2012 10:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    wow... pretty close to the Weston Rd. Hwy 7 location... with that density sounds like they will open many more...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      kwass Aug 30, 2012 10:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I know. I thought it was strange as well that they were opening another location so close to their Weston Rd/Hwy 7 location.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        DDD Aug 30, 2012 02:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I saw a sign for five guys coming soon to North Queen st near Sherway...

                                                                                                                                                                                        Also, if we're sharing links...here are a couple of well written posts from the Lefsetz letter re five guys and in n out:

                                                                                                                                                                                        http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2011/08/15/authenticity/
                                                                                                                                                                                        http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.ph...

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                                                                                                                                                                                    jmeggs Oct 24, 2012 02:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    It took forever, but it looks like the Five Guys at Yonge and Dundas is days away from opening.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      caviartothegeneral Oct 24, 2012 05:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Sign on the window says they open Sunday.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Dr Butcher Oct 24, 2012 05:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I have been seeing a sign for a Five Guys opening at Taunton and Harmony in Oshawa for probably two years. I still don't think it's even started.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Since I saw that sign, they have built locations at Stevenson and the 401 in Oshawa, and Harwood and Highway 2 in Ajax.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        afong56 Oct 24, 2012 07:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        i have eaten at both of those locations and concluded that 5 guys is depressingly bad. dry, overcooked (almost burnt) patties, with little to no seasoning of the meat, which would be fine if the base product had decent flavouring, but no. baldwin street burger (split the difference between oshawa and ajax) is much, much more deserving of our patronage.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Dr Butcher Oct 24, 2012 11:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I ate at the Stevenson location a few weeks ago and thought it was good, my burger wasn't dry, in fact it was pretty messy overall. I did really enjoy the fries. I think it's a little overpriced, not terrible. It seems they need to work on consistency. 5 Guys is not mind blowing, there are worse out there. Big Boys, and Pete's Big Bite have that pretty much nailed in Durham.

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. hal2010 Oct 24, 2012 08:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Stopped in at the location on Warden today. My first visit.

                                                                                                                                                                                        The burger patty was well cooked with even a hint of pink, loosely packed, and made with fresh meat. I had a single and it was scrawny! It couldn't stand up to the bun and toppings. The toppings were handled with care and the cheese was actually melted onto the patty. The pickles were bland. If Wendy's is a 6 this was a 7

                                                                                                                                                                                        The fries were also similar to Wendy's. Not too crispy, not too soggy, medium thickness. Skin on, a bit of spice and way, way, way too much salt. More than the average fast food place. But they didn't skimp on portions. The "regular " size cup of fries was full in the bag and then there were another 2 cups spilled over on top of the burger. Enough for three people.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Classic Rock at 90 decibels in a room full of potato sacks, peanut shells and glowing reviews on corrugated plastic. Not really my thing. I don't get the peanuts. If I was going to think up an appetizer for a burger and fries, it's the last thing that would come to mind.

                                                                                                                                                                                        There's one opening closer to home soon, in the Longo's plaza on Laird. I'll give them another try or two, I'm sure, but I wasn't overly impressed on this first visit. Next time I'll go for a double and share the fries.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          GoodGravy Oct 25, 2012 08:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          A regular burger at 5G is two patties, isn't it? Calling a single patty scrawny is like saying water is wet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            hal2010 Oct 25, 2012 10:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Well, now I know. But there was nothing on the menu board pointing out that a single patty is 2.5mm thick and a "regular" burger has 2 patties. I figured the 2 patty deal was just American portion sizing so I avoided it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              magic Oct 25, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              American style smashed flat top burgers are often smaller.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm always amazed by people who are fine with a single patty. I always get triples!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Davwud Oct 25, 2012 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                "American style smashed flat top burgers are often smaller." Most often they're 1/4 lbers. Someone should trademark that idea.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  magic Oct 25, 2012 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Most of the ones I've eaten are like 1/5 lbers!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    GoodGravy Oct 25, 2012 05:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1/4 lb pre-cooked weight could equal 1/5 lbers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    piccola Nov 2, 2012 05:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Not trying to be obtuse, but isn't a 1/4 pound (four ounces) already larger than the official serving size for meat? Is it really considered a small portion?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      GoodGravy Nov 2, 2012 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      4 oz is the recommended serving size for protein. Rule of thumb is the size of a deck of cards.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        prima Nov 2, 2012 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Quite a few health organizations use 3 oz as the recommended portion size. While it's quite possible other organizations use 4 oz as the portion size, but I've usually seen 3 oz portions used.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        The current Canada Food Guide is recommending 2.5 ounce portions of meat.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/basics-base/serving-portion-eng.php

                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.cancer.org/healthy/eatheal...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        That being said, most people I know would consider a 2.5 ounce serving of meat, a 3 ounce serving of meat and a 4 ounce serving of meat (at a restaurant) to be a small portion!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          piccola Nov 3, 2012 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Fair enough! I don't eat meat so I have no frame of reference. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                              lister Oct 25, 2012 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Our first and only visit to Five Guys was at the Newmarket location back in the summer. After reading a few very enthusiastic (and one very frequent obnoxious opinion) Chowhound reviews of Five Guys, I found the product to be very Wendy's-like to be honest. I don't quite understand the enthusiasm for the place. Maybe years ago when the fast food burger market was terrible and 5G stood out dramatically in comparison, but now, don't think so.

                                                                                                                                                                                              IMO, McD's and BK are at the bottom of the heap. Harvey's, Wendy's, South St and 5Gs are in the same breath with various pluses and minuses. BP is at the top (haven't been to Holy Chuck.) Enh, the burgers we make at home in the In & Out animal style easily beat all of them. No surprise I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              cheesymama Nov 2, 2012 03:39 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              For anyone interested, the location Laird in the Longo's plaza opens on Monday Nov 5th.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Yongeman Nov 2, 2012 06:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                Oh, cool. Thanks cm.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  stephen May 23, 2013 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  FYI, There is a new location open now near Dixie and Dundas in Mississauga also....a friend and I christened it on the second day it was open. He had me try the hot dog, which was surprisingly good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  ylsf May 22, 2013 06:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Going to my first Five guys since a visit years ago in NYC. Any suggestions on the best ordering option. Happen to be going to a plaza with one in Hamilton tonight. Sharing fries seems like the best option.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bobby Wham May 22, 2013 07:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    YES! Best order. It's taken me a while to figure this out. Order a bacon cheeseburger (The one with 2 patties) "Light" cheese, that's one slice of cheese, 2 is personally too much. Then Mayo, lettuce, pickles (so essential) ketchup, jalapenos and franks red hot. Don't even bother with their tomatoes, they are basically white, too cold and have no flavour, they don't add anything to the burger. Make is this way and it's the best burger in Toronto. and yeah, you could probably share a little fries but a regular is good too. make sure to ask them for some more franks red on the side to dip the fries in.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yongeman May 22, 2013 07:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sounds good, but hold the Frank's, jalapeno and ketchup and add mustard and both kinds of onions. . I'd add the tomatoes too. I guess we have opposite tastes...ha ha.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Also, fries can be regular or Cajun spiced. I always stick to the regular. It sounds like I don't like spicy food, but that's not true. I love it, but not on burgers or pizza. Just me, I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Davwud May 22, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        My standard order is a the Bacon Cheeseburger (2 patties) with pickle, onion, mustard.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm at the inlaws right now and got to see an episode of Burger Land and it seems that is the classic condiment combination that grew out of the depression in the south.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          justsayn May 22, 2013 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Close! : ) Hold the bacon..... Cheeseburger (2 patties) with pickle, onion, mustard. (raw onion)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      justxpete May 22, 2013 08:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I just order the jr. Cheeseburger with everything "in black", except mushrooms. Good balanced burger. Definitely not near the best in TO - but pretty damn good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        ylsf May 22, 2013 08:08 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ended up with a jr bacon cheeseburger with lettuce, pickle jalapenos . Hot sauce on the side for fries..

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I understand why people are disappointed. My memory of my NYC burger at Five Guys was that is was a nice/juicy burger. Felt like they overcooked this one. Was dry. Felt like a rip off at that price compared to Burger Priest, Holy Chuck, etc. My friend paid for my dinner so I didn't feel "as ripped off".

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I will probably give it another chance in case just overcooked at that location (in Stoney Creek/Hamilton where the Cineplex theatre is on Paramount).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          justxpete May 22, 2013 08:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          You put a bug in my ear and I had 5G today too (Leaside location). I just spent a couple weeks in Orlando recently and had it 2-3 times there. Seems that the ones in the US might be better than the ones here?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Davwud May 23, 2013 06:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Hit and miss Pete. I've had good experiences at 2 in Huntsville and 1 bad. In TO I've found found 3 good ones the rest I won't even drive past.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              justsayn May 23, 2013 07:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hit and Miss but Yonge and Dundas misses. Sherway seems good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                justxpete May 23, 2013 07:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Didn't know there was one at Sherway. Didn't come up on Google maps when we were looking for one yesterday. Will check the website.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  justsayn May 23, 2013 08:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sorry! - used the term Sherway loosely.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Across from Sherway/Walmart

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  North Queen
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  148 North Queen Street
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Etobicoke, ON M9C 1A8

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Davwud May 23, 2013 07:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I might argue that the one on Green Lane in Newmarket is the best one I've been to.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          CapnChaos Jul 5, 2013 01:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I never got the hype for 5 Guys. I've tried them three times at a different location each time and every time felt that I had been ripped off. The burgers are fresh but they lack any kind of taste. The fries however are a different animal altogether because they're absolutely delicious.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            bytepusher Jul 5, 2013 05:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I gather the quality varies by location but the one near me (Leaside) the only word I can use to describe the fries is disgusting

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Soggy, greasy, flavourless

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I also don't get the schtick with the fries in the bag, Ok I get that at some point it must have created an impression of abundance but now that it's part of the system (they actually have a measured container by the fry station so they can measure the precise portion of "extra" fries they dump into the bag) and all it does it cover the entire order in extra grease.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              duckdown Jul 5, 2013 08:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't care for their fries either.. You'd think they'd have something going for them, given the fact they are fresh cut and fried in peanut oil (much like many of my favorite Montreal poutineries) but the 5G fries are just crusty and bland as hell. Plus no toppings for them except ketchup is just annoying, I'm not much of a ketchup guy

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              warlock Jul 5, 2013 06:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              CapnChaos..agree with you there...tried it twice....underwhelmed each time.....and I went with the mindset really wanting to like it....I guess with the price point and expectations,I was hoping for something better.....I would call it a good burger if it was cheaper....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Vinnie Vidimangi Jul 5, 2013 08:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                The peanut quality has gone way down again to the point that I am determined to give them up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Herne Dec 28, 2013 11:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Finally got to try the 5 Guys Burger at the Laird location. Burger was a cut above those you would get at a neighbourhood restaurant. Fries were not frozen and very well done. So I'd go again. Didn't like the noise much of which came from the person in charge of the kitchen area. Sufficiently loud for me to consider only take-out in the future.

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