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Everyone Loves this Place but Me...

I stole this topic from the Manhattan board but I suppose it's germane to an old topic on here about overrated restaurants.

My pick: Super Cocina. I don't get it. Never have. I've tried this place off and on for the past three years at the behest of my significant other. I want to like it, I do. The food is priced right, the 'hood is close to us, and many of my foodie friends rave about it. And I love Mexican food.

On the other end of the spectrum, I'd have to say I don't have much love for Marine Room though I feel the minority in that camp.

Yours?

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Super Cocina
3627 University Ave., San Diego, CA 92104

Marine Room Restaurant
2000 Spindrift Drive, La Jolla, CA 92037

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  1. Sorry all, but:

    Cafe Chloe.

    Love the food, decent atmosphere, but HATE their chairs so we don't go. And it's a block from my studio.

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    Cafe Chloe
    721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

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    1. re: Fake Name

      Cafe Chloe is the kind of place that makes me want to linger. I do love the atmosphere, food, and service. Even though I've been there a hundred times or so, I can't remember anything about the chairs! Maybe that is a good sign.

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      Cafe Chloe
      721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

      1. re: Fake Name

        Those chairs are the WORST at Cafe Chloe!
        Love the place but I can't sit in them and I don't have a fat ass or anything but they are the most uncomfortable things and their wobbly too.

        1. re: Beach Chick

          Agree about the chairs. Super uncomfortable and the reason I have not been back there. Great menu, reasonable prices...

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          Cafe Chloe
          721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

        2. re: Fake Name

          Would have to agree here. After reading so many great reviews about it on here I had to try it and see for myself. While it was good, it didn't exactly blow me away and the prices are on the high side considering the portion size (I think I paid $30+ for a lamb chop entree with two tiny chops).
          I guess if you factor in the fact this is San Diego and that they are located downtown (albeit outside of the gaslamp) then its ok, but it certainly would not measure up to french bistro food in SF or NY by any stretch.

          1. re: mliew

            Agree with mliew. I find the food generally solid and lunch there can be quite pleasant, but it's no Bouchon. Heck, it's no Comme Ca or Bistro Jeanty.

            1. re: shouzen

              Bouchon is about 50% more expensive than Cafe Chloe and we visited all three Bouchon locations together about 10-12 times and Cafe Chloe about 90-100 times but we still had overall more disappointments at Bouchon than at Cafe Chloe. Cafe Chloe is one of the few restaurants in San Diego which also would be successful in LA or SF.

              1. re: honkman

                I'll admit Bouchon is quite pricy for what it is, but based my meals, the level of execution and attention to detail is not on the same level. The boudin blanc and foie gras terrine at Bouchon are things of wonder, and don't even get me started on their fruits de mer.

                But it's fine to disagree - I already knew I was in the minority on Cafe Chloe. I just don't get it.

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                Cafe Chloe
                721 9th Ave, San Diego, CA 92101

        3. I agree with you on the Marine Room...I really only like it for drinks and app's or the annual Christmas time high tide breakfast.
          Location can't be beat...But... IMHO, menu is too much over the top and I really don't see 'game meat' as a real closer for the demographics...way too busy on the food and I can't stand all the decorative crap that they stick out of every food item...need an additional plate for all rosemary sprigs, lemongrass blade, garlic flowers etc..that was so 1990's!

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          1. re: Beach Chick

            Yep, and Chef Bernie has got to get himself over fennel pollen. He seemingly uses it in everything, which limits my selection on the menu to about 1-2 dishes. Blech.

            1. re: foodiechick

              Love Chef Bernard but I think either he needs a complete revamp of his cooking style or he needs to move on and open his own place.
              Agree with the fennel, which I deplore and I don't want my food tasting like black licorice.

            2. re: Beach Chick

              Not sure if it's the chef's fault or maitre'd but they let me order crab in the appetizer and persimmon in the entree (I just wanted to see if they would let me since the pairing was possible on the menu).

              Then I tried to change the entree, but they gave me a very hard time about changing it until I pointed out that the combo could be fatal and I would hold them responsible for any problems.

              1. re: karaethon

                Can you point to any scientific evidence that this combination is lethal ? I know there are some webpages claiming them but their "scientific evidence" can't be taken serious. It seems to be more an urban myth.
                There are actually many restaurants like Dining at Ritz-Carlton in San Francisco which have crab salads with persimmon on their menu. It's understandable why the Marine Room was not happy to change your original selection.

                1. re: honkman

                  I hadn't heard about this before, so I looked it up. The allegedly "scientific" explanation is that protein + tannins = indigestible matter.

                  If that were true, every person who drank cabernet sauvignon with their steak ought to be dead.

                  1. re: honkman

                    chowhound topic on this:
                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/319670

                    If you google persimmon bezoar you'll get what you're looking for. Basically the bezoar is something you can get from persimmons in general but the crab acts as a catalyst

                      1. re: karaethon

                        These are two different issues - one eating unripe or too many persimmon which might cause bezoar and the other that crab meat acts as any kind of catalyst. There is no scientific evidence (at least I can't find any) that crab is any kind of catalyst for it. Again there are quite regularly crab salads with persimmons on restaurant menus (and I doubt that they would risk their business just to have the dish on the menu) and I have eaten it without any problem. In addition restaurant most likely won't serve unripen persimmon.

                        1. re: karaethon

                          Looking into this, I see that eating unripe persimmons can cause the formation of bezoars, but have yet to see anything explaining why consuming crab with ripe persimmons would also cause this - which is really the relevant question, because no chef would serve an unripe persimmon since they're so astringent.

                      2. re: karaethon

                        Crab and persimmon, lethal? You have got to be kidding me. With crab, there could be lots of issues with freshness and bacterial contamination. And an eating an unripe persimmon could turn one stomach fast, but in combination, no.

                    1. George's and Sea Rocket Bistro, multiple tries and always a let down. It is unfortunate because I really want to like them.

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                      Sea Rocket Bistro
                      3382 30th St, San Diego, CA 92104

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                      1. re: stevuchan

                        +1 on George's. I just don't get it. Nice view, lousy food.

                        1. re: Indirect Heat

                          i haven't been to George's in ages, but in my experience it was always crappy food upstairs, great food downstairs. never understood the disparity.

                        2. re: stevuchan

                          Not sure Sea Rocket qualifies as a place "everyone loves", you know? I've never been to George's and honestly have no desire.

                          1. re: stevuchan

                            I have enjoyed Sea Rocket in the past, but I find all of their food lacks flavor. Also, they appear to hate salt. A dash of salt would do wonders for their food. The best thing I ever had there was a paella with sausage from the Linkery in it. It was amazing, but especially because of the extra salt from the sausage.

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                            Linkery
                            3794 30th St, San Diego, CA 92104

                          2. Cucina Urbana
                            Been a couple of times and just didn't get it.

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                            1. re: Lynnester

                              Cosigned. Keep wanting to love CU, but it just doesn't live up to the hype. We have given up on it based on the noise level alone.

                              1. re: foodiechick

                                I think Cucina Urbana is great for the apps and wine. I see what you are saying about noise level, but that's not a peeve of mine, but I could see where it would be for some.

                                1. re: foodiechick

                                  Totally agree about CU. Been there at least four times, but other than the squash blossoms, I barely remember what I ordered. Definitely not memorable food.

                                  Also agree with Sea Rocket Bistro.

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                                  Sea Rocket Bistro
                                  3382 30th St, San Diego, CA 92104

                              2. Not liking might be too much (we still go there for time to time) but feeling that it is way overhyped - Cucina Urbana. Food is not bad but we hadn't a single visit when not something was quite disappointing. There are a number of mid-prize restaurant in SD which have better food but are much less hyped.