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KosherVeg Mar 7, 2011 06:24 PM

(1) Where can I get a traditional balsamic vinegar - kosher ?
(2) And even harder, what about an organic kosher balsamic (perhaps not traditional, merely classic)?

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    SoCal Mother Mar 7, 2011 07:13 PM

    Kedem makes a balsamic vinegar. Look in the Passover section. I bought some at Whole Foods a few months ago.

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      queenscook Mar 7, 2011 08:03 PM

      In my opinion, the Bartenura brand is worlds better than the Kedem version. They even have a more expensive, "special reserve" type (don't recall if that's what they call it, though), but I don't feel that one is worth the higher price.

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        KosherVeg Mar 7, 2011 09:21 PM

        Neither of these are traditional -- nor are they organic...

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          queenscook Mar 7, 2011 10:15 PM

          What makes balsamic vinegar "traditional"?

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            koshergourmetmart Mar 8, 2011 04:00 AM

            balsamic vinegars are available at fairway on rte 17 in nj - i believe it is paramus
            I do not believe there is a kosher organic balsamic vinegar in existence

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              koshergastronome Mar 8, 2011 04:41 AM

              Seemingly "traditional" balsamic vinegar would have to be labeled "Aceto Balsamico Tradizionale di Modena" or "Aceto Balsamico Tradizionale di Reggio Emilia" and both are aged (anywhere from 12, 18, or 25 years), and they would cost anywhere from $150 - $400...
              then there's "balsamic vinegar of modena" which is essentially an imitation of the traditional stuff.
              That being said, I do think the Bartenura brand is the best readily found kosher balsamic vinegar

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                ferret Mar 8, 2011 05:59 AM

                The OU site shows a balsamic vinegar from Fattorie Giacobazzi and they do make a traditional balsamic - however, I don't see any distribution here in the US (found several in the UK) and they produce several types of balsamic and it's unclear which are certified.

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                  AdinaA Mar 8, 2011 09:15 AM

                  I've never seen a kosher one in the stratospheric price range koshergastronome cites. But the traditional basalmics are one of the great upgrades in kosher food in recent years.

                  They can be hard to find in stores in smaller communities. But in large communities there are many brands, nor organic, just wonderful. Like Mengazzoli, labeled ""Aceto Balsamico di Modena". There are also excellent white basalmics, like Traverso from Chile. The range of white wine vinegars like Tonnelliand and rice vinegars (Nakano) have really opened up new territory for kosher food.

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                    koshergastronome Mar 8, 2011 12:32 PM

                    yeah ive never seen any balsamic vinegars (kosher or not) in that price range...i was quoting wikipedia (should have said that)...

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                      shoelace Jul 23, 2013 08:14 PM

                      waho

                      where did you find a hashgacha-ed white balsamic??

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          mrogovin Mar 8, 2011 11:53 AM

          Fairway in NYC and Paramus, NJ have several brands that are superior to Bartenura. They also sell a Chilean balsamic vinegar, but I believe it is imitation (sweetened wine vinegar)

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            skipper Mar 9, 2011 06:19 AM

            I've seen kosher (UO certifed) balsamic vinegar at Giant stores in the DC area which, probably, means that you also can get it at their sister stores (Stop and SHop, etc.) in other area. The price, as I recall, was reasonable.

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              GilaB Mar 9, 2011 06:38 AM

              Reasonable = not 'traditional,' as discussed above.

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              p.j. Mar 10, 2011 06:31 AM

              Here is what I have done, with excellent results. Pour a bottle of Bartenura balsamic vinegar into a pareve saucepan. Bring to a low boil and continue to cook until reduced by half. Let it cool. Pour it back in the bottle. Delicious. I first did this for Pesach many years ago. What a treat.
              Warning: open the windows as the family will begin to complain about the fumes during the reducing process.
              p.j.

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                cheesecake17 Mar 14, 2011 11:34 AM

                I believe this can also be done in a pyrex in the oven.

                I use the Bartenura balsamic to make balsamic glazed cippolini onions. I use any vinegar leftover in the pan for salad dressing.

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                  helou Jul 24, 2013 05:17 AM

                  How do make the glazed cippolini onions? I'd love to try that. I've hesitated to buy them because it seems like I'd have to peel each one, not the sort of task I'd welcome right before a big family yom tov dinner. But I might.

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                    GilaB Jul 24, 2013 06:54 AM

                    For glazed small onions, I generally use the frozen bagged ones, although I rarely use frozen vegetables. I haven't noticed a significant difference in quality from when I sat there peeling every tiny little one by hand.

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                      cheesecake17 Jul 28, 2013 06:53 PM

                      Line an 8x8 pan with foil, arrange peeled cippolini onions in a single layer. Pour 3/4c balsamic, 2 tb oil, salt and pepper ove the onions. Bake 40 min, flip , bake another 40 min.

                      I've used frozen pearl onions. It's good, but not the same as fresh

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                        helou Jul 29, 2013 04:10 AM

                        Thanks - I'm going to try this. When I seem them being sold in the stores they look irresistible..

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                  koshergourmetmart Mar 10, 2011 11:07 AM

                  there is a company some of whose products I saw at shop in west orange and they hy\ave a balsamic vinegar premium, http://www.liveo.co.il/Redirect.aspx.

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                    mrogovin Mar 11, 2011 10:36 AM

                    I can't speak to the quality of any of their products, but this is NOT balsamic vinegar. The ingredients are listed on their website: "wine vinegar, grape must and caramel " that is, it is wine vinegar plus sugar. This is what the fake balsamics in the US are. Israel COULD produce REAL balsamic vinegar, but so far it is clearly going the cheap way. Very sad. The best you will likely do is the imported Italian real balsamics (available in Fairway). Better than Bartenurra, but none like the 12-year aged stuff the non-kosher crowd can get.

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                      koshergourmetmart Mar 11, 2011 11:08 AM

                      I am just reporting on what I have found. It is up to you to determine what you are willing to pay for

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                        mrogovin Mar 14, 2011 11:27 AM

                        Me too. Update: They told me in an email that it is repackaged, imported Balsamic from Modena (from Italy), but given the ingredient list, I remain unimpressed

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                    helou Jul 24, 2013 05:14 AM

                    At my local butcher - Edison NJ - I just bought Natural Earth Products with OU hashgacha (and there's a B"H on the label, not something you see very often) called Balsamic Vinegar of Modena.
                    For ingredients it lists Balsamic vinegar of Modena. It's a Product of Italy, and under a "Protected Geographic Indication" it states Aceto Balsamico De Modena PGI.

                    Certainly seems like the real McCoy.

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                      Kosher Carnivore Feb 10, 2014 08:02 AM

                      This may be another thread, but what is the general opinion of De La Rossa kosher balsamic and other wine vinegars?

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