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Mar 4, 2011 01:21 PM

Irish Bars and Dive Bars

Guys, trip to the city and next week for Big East tournament and we are looking for some nice dive bars and Irish pubs to hit either on the way to or around The Garden?? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated

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  1. The best dive near MSG is Billy Mark's West. It's not a fake dive but the real deal.

    Billymark's West
    332 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

    1. Desomds tavern on park ave south between 29th and 30th. True NYC divey irish bar without the high prices. Easy walk to the garden after a few beers. $5 burgers and $5 pints.
      And I guess you need to hit the blarney stone near MSG.

      Rattle n hum. 33rd street near the empire state building. GREAT beer list, acceptable bar food. Keep it simple. Beer is pricey though.

      Tir Na Nog is an irish pub right next to MSG and has decent beers and over priced but consistent, decent food. Make a reservation if you go. A half-assed attempt at an irish gastropub. But perfectly acceptable for the area. The place to go if you have someone that is picky about their food (i.e. wants a salad and a piece of fish rather than nachos and a burger).

      Local, right across from the garden on 33rd between 7th and 8th has a good beer list and good sliders-dont expect much-other dishes are not good and service can be spotty-but order a bodingtons, tell the server you are in a hurry, and you can get a decent (although not gourmet by any stretch) meal and drink before the game.

      Heck when I go to concerts at MSG, that is my pub crawl.

      Tir Na Nog
      5 Penn Plz, New York, NY 10001

      Rattle 'n' Hum
      14 E 33rd St, New York, NY 10016

      Desmond's Tavern
      433 Park Ave S, New York, NY 10016

      1 Penn Plaza, New York, NY 10119

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      1. re: AdamD

        This is on a tangent, but I was wondering, are there any places you'd consider Irish gastropubs, besides Tir Na Nog, elsewhere in Manhattan? I realize champ is on the menu at the Spotted Pig, but would be interested in a gastropub with even more of an Irish element.

        Spotted Pig
        314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

        Tir Na Nog
        5 Penn Plz, New York, NY 10001

          1. re: coasts

            Moran's is pretty standard stuff. Very tasty but I seem to recall the portions being shockingly small for pub grub.

            1. re: pranksy

              if i remember, i only ever had their Shepherd's Pie, always a big and heavy dish, and a burger, which is also typically a good size. can't say how other entrees are portioned. i used to frequent Kennedy's on 57th bet. 8th and 9th, but sadly they closed last month.

              Kennedy's Bar & Restaurant
              327 W 57th St, New York, NY 10019

              1. re: coasts

                Thanks for the suggestion!

                146 Tenth Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                1. re: coasts

                  Holy Crap! Did Kennedy's really close down? That place was always full of regulars almost every day of the week. How could they clse down?

                  1. re: roze

                    Lost their lease. It has reopened, but it's a shell of what it once was. Bad vibe caused by rude servers and "upscale" spin on what should be regular dishes. Feels like it belongs in Vegas now.

                    1. re: coasts

                      Ugh...That's so sad. The cozy neighborhood vibe of the place was the best.

            2. re: prima

              Good question. Im not really sure to be honest. I usually just grab a burger or grilled chicken at most irish pubs as I am usually drinking when I am there!

              1. re: AdamD

                Probably a safe bet on most pub menus ;-)

              2. re: prima

                Try Druids on 10th Ave and 50th. It has above average food, and is a local pub on top of it all, where locals hangout.

                736 10th Ave, New York, NY 10019

                1. re: anil

                  What would you recommend on Druid's menu? Is Druids currently the best bet for an Irish bar with decent food in Midtown West?

                  1. re: prima

                    Well, I'm a little late in updating this, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to chime in. Druids is a great place to go if you are looking for decent food at an Irish bar. The main bar has an attractive section for dining with linen table cloths, etc. The bar itself can get a bit boisterous, but I've never seen it loud enough to bother diners.

                    A real treat in summer is the backyard garden.

                    Landmark Tavern on 11th Ave. just a few blocks south has the same owner as Druid and is supposed to also be quite good -- I've never been there, but it is well-reviewed, so that is also an option.

                    Someone mentioned Brickyard, but that can get quite lively (rowdy, even), so I'm not sure I would go there for the food alone.

                    Landmark Tavern
                    626 11th Ave, New York, NY 10036

                    736 10th Ave, New York, NY 10019

                    785 9th Ave, New York, NY 10019

                    1. re: foodmonk

                      Thanks, foodmonk! I loved the food at the Landmark in the late 90s, and I'm due for a visit. I was introduced to the Landmark by a friend who was a big fan of Spin City, who made a point of visiting the Landmark whenever he was in NYC.

                      Didn't realize it had the same owner as Druids.

                      Hope to finally get around to trying Tir Na Nog.

            3. Second Tir Na Nog (for fancy), and add the Molly Wee (for the opposite of fancy).


              1. Blarney Stone or Blarney Corned Beef to boot.

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                1. re: fourunder

                  I second Tir Na Nog.. Wow, Blarney Stone is still around. I used to love that place. Katz's isnt the only place with hand carved meat. Blarney stone did hand carved Brisket, corned beef and more and at very reasonable prices, and very tasty.

                  1. re: foodwhisperer

                    The Blarneys all deserve landmark status .....

                    1. re: fourunder

                      The Blarney Stone with the steam table/ carving station on the south side of 32nd St. closed a few years ago. That was a killer spot for MSG events, especially the BET. Now it's gone and the BE is in total turmoil (Central Florida? SMU?). Times have changed.

                2. Rudy's at 44 St and 9th ave is a great dive. There is more of a neighborhood crowd. than at the bars within a block or two of MSG. Look for the statue of a pig in front.

                  Rudy's Bar & Grill
                  627 9th Ave, New York, NY 10036