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best hamburgers and milkshake in sf ?

hi !

i'm new in sf and a friend of mine is coming to visit me and he wants to eat a good 'traditional' hamburger and a good milkshake also. american cliché, you know...

is anybody has a suggestion about that ?

thanks for answering.

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  1. One contender is Bill's Place, on Clement Street between 24th-25th Avenues.

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    Bill's Place
    2315 Clement St, San Francisco, CA 94121

    5 Replies
    1. re: DavidT

      Nuff said.

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      In-N-Out Burger
      333 Jefferson St, San Francisco, CA 94133

      1. re: tstrum

        Just look at my screenname and it speaks for itself!

        James Randall in Los Gatos does a pretty kick-ass burger made from ground brisket. Couple that with their truffle fries and you're loving life.

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        James Randall Restaurant
        303 N Santa Cruz Ave, Los Gatos, CA 95030

          1. re: wolfe

            In-N-Out's neapolitan shake is all-three flavors of vanilla-strawberry-chocolate or the Choco-Vanilla Swirl... Root Beer Float.

      2. re: DavidT

        A 2nd on Bill's. Old fashion, traditional, standard greasy burger...good fries and shakes. Also the environment matches the food.

      3. Barney's Burger off Chestnut. They have great shakes and fries (garlic, curly, steak, or skinny) and the burgers aren't bad. I love the turkish coffee shake.

        If its more of a gourmet burger you want try Wayfare Tavern.

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        Barney's Gourmet Hamburger
        3344 Steiner St, San Francisco, CA 94123

        Wayfare Tavern
        558 Sacramento Street, San Francisco, CA 94111

        1. If your friend is foreign, I'd say go for atmosphere: Orphan Andy's at 2 am, St. Francis Fountain.

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          St. Francis Fountain & Candy
          2801 24th St, San Francisco, CA 94110

          Orphan Andy's
          3991 17th St, San Francisco, CA 94114

          1. Previous burger and shakes thread with fries on the side.
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/749661

            1. How about super duper?

              Super Duper Burgers - 2304 Market St San Francisco, CA