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Beecroft Feb 27, 2011 01:39 AM

We are going to Rome next weekend - for a birthday treat ,,,,,,

Can anyone recommend a restaurant called Santopadre in via Collina?

And can anyone recommend a small late night bar near the Empire Palace Hotel in Via Aureliana?

And finally - does anyone have favourite bars and restaurants near Campo Fiore or Piazza Navona or Via Condotti

Many thanks!

John

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Santopadre
Via Collina, 18, 00187, Rome, Lazio , IT

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    Sfuso RE: Beecroft Feb 27, 2011 05:45 AM

    Cul di Sac Wine Bar on the Piazza Pasquino just south west of the Piazza Navona, Antica Taverna on Via di Monte Giordano is about a 10 minute walk west of the Piazza,

    Just north east of the Campo Fiori is Hostaria Costanza on the Piazza Paridiso. The place is built into the foundation Teatro Pompeo where Ceasar was offed.

    1. katieparla RE: Beecroft Feb 27, 2011 10:46 AM

      Santopadre is quite good. Actually I haven't been in a couple years but I haven't heard about any major changes. If I was coming to Rome for a birthday treat, it would't be my first choice. All'Oro or Glass would rank higher on that list. If you go to Santopadre, be sure to book ahead. If you are staying in the area you and want to stay local, Cantani Cantarini is an old school trattoria with a really laid back atmosphere. Note they serve fish Thursday at dinner and on Fridays and Saturdays for lunch and dinner. They serve cucina romana and food from Le Marche at moderate prices.

      Trimani Wine Bar is open until 12:30 or so and is only a 5 minute walk from your hotel.

      If you want to dine near Via Condotti/Spagna, I highly recommend Palatium. It serves dishes made from ingredients from the local region and has a wonderful wine list (again, local). It is moderately priced. There are lots of places near Campo and Navona. What budget/cuisine/atmosphere are you looking for?

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      Palatium
      Via Frattina 94, Roma , IT

      Santopadre
      Via Collina, 18, 00187, Rome, Lazio , IT

      Trimani Wine Bar
      Via Cernaia,37, Rome, Lazio 00185, IT

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        jen kalb RE: katieparla Feb 27, 2011 02:39 PM

        adding links

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        Cul de Sac
        Piazza Pasquino, 73, Rome, Lazio , IT

        All'Oro
        Via Eleonora Duse, 1, Rome, Lazio , IT

        Cantina Cantarini
        Piazza Sallustio 12, Rome, Lazio , IT

        Hostaria Costanza
        Piazza del Paradiso, 63, Rome, Lazio , IT

        Antica Taverna
        Via di Monte Giordano, 12, Rome, Lazio , IT

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          katieparla RE: jen kalb Feb 27, 2011 05:05 PM

          Thanks Jen! My computer bugged out and wouldnt let me add anymore links:(

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            jen kalb RE: katieparla Feb 27, 2011 05:26 PM

            Thank YOU for the recommendations! it will only add links if the restaurants are already in the system. Glass simply refuses to link for some reason - Ive asked the moderators to look and see why. It just takes a minute to add a name and an address, which is what I did for some of these but sometimes the system simply bugs out..

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              katieparla RE: jen kalb Feb 28, 2011 01:19 PM

              Jen, I tried to add the restaurants but they system wouldn't let me. I thought maybe there was a max that could be added to the system at one time? I tried refreshing and editing but no dice. hopefully the glitch will get worked out! Thx again:)

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              jen kalb RE: katieparla Mar 1, 2011 09:22 AM

              I usually reply to myself if that happens tho you have to add a few words to make it work

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              Sfuso RE: jen kalb Feb 28, 2011 06:22 AM

              I forgot all about Cantina Cantarini, love that place, I never get there any more. We had our first lunch there 20 years ago. First half of the week it was an all meat menu second half all fish. I remember a salad / appetizer that was just these small dark green striped tomatoes dressed with just olive oil and course sea salt. To this day all tomatoes I eat are compared to them!

              Peace

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              Cantina Cantarini
              Piazza Sallustio 12, Rome, Lazio , IT

            4. re: katieparla
              mbfant RE: katieparla Feb 27, 2011 11:44 PM

              Katie, I was on the verge of recommending Palatium for some foreign visitors, then thought the better of it because the service always seems to be on the verge of coming unglued and the menus are so verbose and only in Italian (though admittedly I haven't been in a while). I love the food and the concept, however. Do you think it's a nonissue and people who don't speak Italian will do fine?

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              Palatium
              Via Frattina 94, Roma , IT

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                katieparla RE: mbfant Feb 28, 2011 01:23 PM

                Maureen, you make a very good point regarding the menu. DIshes and their explanations are wordier than ever. I have had very good service and excellent food on the past few visits. There is one tiny issue aside from the dense Italian menu. Their website has been down for a week and I have been unable to get through on the phone. I wonder if it is shut for holiday, renovations, or other...

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                  minchilli RE: katieparla Feb 28, 2011 11:14 PM

                  Katie: me too, no web site and no answer to the phone at Palatium for more than a week actually. I heard a rumor (unconfirmed) that both Palatium and Enoteca della Provincia were shutting down. Have you heard anything?

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                  Palatium
                  Via Frattina 94, Roma , IT

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                    katieparla RE: minchilli Mar 1, 2011 11:35 AM

                    finally got thru to Palatium today to reserve for clients and they took the booking for tonight so they are still open. i asked about the site and they said the provincia oversees the site but don't know why its not working. ill call back tomorrow to find out more

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                    Palatium
                    Via Frattina 94, Roma , IT

            5. minchilli RE: Beecroft Feb 28, 2011 12:18 AM

              I like Santopadre a lot, and used to go with Frank Bruni when he was posted here. But like Katie, I wouldn't rec for a birthday dinner.
              Near Campo de' Fiori I love Settimio, really old fashioned trattoria.
              My favorite wine bar nearby is L'Angolo Divino, on via Ballestrari
              For your bday dinner I would second Glass. But also love:
              Settembrini
              La Gensola
              Near Via Condotti I love Nino's, and also not far is Matriciana.

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              Santopadre
              Via Collina, 18, 00187, Rome, Lazio , IT

              La Gensola
              Piazza della Gensola, 15, Rome, Lazio 00153, IT

              Settembrini
              Via Luigi Settembrini, 25, Rome, Lazio , IT

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                katieparla RE: minchilli Feb 28, 2011 01:35 PM

                Hmmm...Settimio. I like it alright, but for the atmosphere more than anything else. The food isnt all that amazing, except for the montblanc, which is life changing. More importantly, a visitor to Rome might not feel very welcome there. Regulars get all the attention while visitors often get ignored and stuck at that horrible table next to the door. I get that its part of their shtick but it's not cute.

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                  hychka RE: katieparla Feb 28, 2011 04:00 PM

                  I walk out when they try that and we don't come back when they send some monkey out to beg us to return.

                2. re: minchilli
                  jen kalb RE: minchilli Feb 28, 2011 07:36 PM

                  Is this the Settimio you are talking about? There seem to be a couple of others.
                  http://www.nessundove.net/giovedi-gno...

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                    katieparla RE: jen kalb Feb 28, 2011 10:46 PM

                    that's the one!

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                      jen kalb RE: katieparla Mar 1, 2011 09:37 AM

                      adding links -

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                      Settimio al Pellegrino
                      via del Pellegrino,117, Rome, Lazio , IT

                3. Longing for Italy RE: Beecroft Feb 28, 2011 04:35 PM

                  Love Ristorante Il Gabriello--near the Spanish Steps.

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                    jen kalb RE: Longing for Italy Mar 1, 2011 09:39 AM

                    dont you get nervous that Rick Steves is recommending it?

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                    Il Gabriello
                    Via Vittoria, 51, Rome, Lazio , IT

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                      Longing for Italy RE: jen kalb Mar 1, 2011 12:37 PM

                      Jen--had no clue about Steves' recommendation--don't read him. But, we probably won't have gone (3 times!) if we'd known that the kiss-of-death was on the place. Fortunately, the folk at our hotel recommended it. We went the first time the day after Christmas--we were really scouting out New Year's Eve places. Had a great time--the brother who ran the house gave us the New Year's Eve menu and urged us come "celebrate with the family." Our son joined us and we spent over four hours with 13+ courses. We'd noticed that almost all the customers knew those clearning the tables (turns out they were family members). As we started to leave to see the fireworks, we were implored to stay. Then the music and singing started. We weren't in a position of see what was going on--so as I walked around the corner, I saw a table next to the kitchen jammed with about 15 of the family members--several had instruments and all were singing. After that, we did something we've never done before--the day before we left Rome, we went back to a ristorante for the third time in one visit . All I can say is that we had three different, but fabulous, multi-courses dinners, with great wines paired for each course.

                      As my father used to say: "even a blind hog finds an acorn once in awhile." So, I guess our experience indicates that even Rick can stumble onto a good place.

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                        jen kalb RE: Longing for Italy Mar 1, 2011 01:43 PM

                        sounds like enormous fun - your experience is also consistent with other Board participants recommendations to go back to the same place and become known rather than trying a new place each night.

                        The Steves issue is not a kiss of death issue more that IMO generally his publications are not that food oriented and second hordes of people often follow one of his recommendations which can dilute the experience. Seems like it wasnt the case here and the acorn was found.

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