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Just when thing were quieting down about In-N-Out Burger.........
Read both pages of the article.

http://dmagazine.com/Home/D_Magazine/...

And yes, I know they're not in the same league as Maple & Motor, Wingfields and a few other excellent burger joints. But they will be a welcome addition and alternative to the "fast food" burger scene.

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  1. That's useful to know about the medium rare option - didn't know that's part of the secret menu now. But honestly I don't think it would make a discernible difference considering how thin those patties are.

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    1. re: air

      The stock menu has 4 items plus drinks and shakes. Here's a more thorough version of the options that are available:

      http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2...

      http://daviswiki.org/in-n-out_secret_...

      1. re: amokscience

        Right. Even though the not so secret "secret menu" lists only a few options, there are still quite a few more really secret "secret items". The 2 minute fries are a good case in point.

        1. re: twinwillow

          The Caruth At Central location is now listed on their website under locations.

          http://www.in-n-out.com/locations.asp

      2. re: air

        To follow up, I ordered medium rare when I had lunch at an In-N-Out just before my flight out of Sacramento on monday and my initial suspicion was confirmed. There's a little bit of pink in the middle, but no earth-shattering changes as far as texture, flavor, or juicyness.

        1. re: air

          Yeah, I suppose thats the best you're ever going to get with a 2 oz. patty.

      3. Twin, nobody needs to make excuses for In-N-Out. The places you mention along with Chips, Jakes, Twisted Root, etc. are in a different category.

        The biggest pushback on In-N-Out will be from diehard Whataburger fans, of which there are many.

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        1. re: Scagnetti

          I am a big fan of Whataburger, but I don't really think of them and In-N-Out as the same thing.

          As for the secret menu, my standard order is a 3x3, extra toast, extra sauce, grilled onions, fries well done. Absolute greatness

          1. re: Scagnetti

            Or from those of us who think that In-N-Out is good, and also exceeds the bang to hype ratio.

            Edit, this was supposed to be in response to the "diehard Whataburger fans" post.

          2. I don't eat beef and don't eat "fast food" but after 25 years in California I have to say that once a year or so when, for whatever reason, I wanted a burger, In-N-Out was my choice.

            I guess I'll have to make a trip to one here once they open.

            1. Still more In-N-Out "secret menu" info............

              http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2...

              1. I am not a big In and Out fan but as FYI to whoever is interested I saw that one is under construction at Coit and 635 in North Dallas. Might be old news but it was new to me

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                1. re: taldeac

                  Interesting. That put's it relatively close to the one being built at
                  Caruth and Central. I'd of thought they would have spaced them further apart at this stage.

                  1. re: taldeac

                    Which isnt far from Tollway and 635 where one looks nearly ready to open (northwest corner near Hilton)

                  2. So I made the mistake of listening to my daughter......she's in middle school, tells me that her freinds have been to the Allen location and that it was open already....

                    Like a dumbarse I drive out last night after my workout for a burger......

                    not open YET!!!!!!!!!

                    But close....darn close...seems like less than a week based on trainng that seemed to be going on in the store...

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                    1. re: masnole

                      Kids! (LOL) Gotta love em.

                    2. Thinking of going this week... anyone know if the lines are crazy or bearable?

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                      1. re: amokscience

                        I've heard 2-3 hours today for the Frisco location.

                        1. re: jh75

                          @amokscience: Have you not seen all the Dallas blogs and the news reports on TV? It's a friggin madhouse!
                          The INO CEO said it was the largest store opening in the history of the company! I think there were over 80 people in line for the opening and the line of cars for the drive-thru was almost a mile long!
                          There are many videos of the opening on various Dallas blog websites. Including, (get this) one woman sitting outside eating her burger and bawling her head off because INO reminded her of home in Fontana, California.
                          Ya'll know I love INO but, this is nuts!
                          One more thing, when one of you DOES finally go, order your burger "animal style" and, extra crispy fries for the best INO experience.

                          1. re: twinwillow

                            It's bigger than the Royal Wedding!

                            1. re: Scagnetti

                              Just in case some of you haven't seen the video of the "crying woman". Short commercial before vid starts and the crier is at the .59 mark. But, do watch the entire vid. I love the shot of the first guy in line eating his 3x3 animal style and saying, "praise be to God". What a hoot!

                              http://www.dallasnews.com/video/?bcid...

                            2. re: twinwillow

                              Work keeping me way busy... sounds like I want to avoid for a while but I know what I'm getting: Extra Toast, Double Double, Medium Rare, Animal Style, Extra Salad, Fries Well Done, Neapolitan Shake

                              1. re: amokscience

                                Still leary of a 2 oz patty being "medium rare"

                                1. re: DallasDude

                                  I agree.

                                  1. re: DallasDude

                                    air said it wasn't much noticeable... I'm just curious to try it. Probably head out next week at some absurd off hour and pray for a short line.

                                    1. re: amokscience

                                      My thoughts exactly. They close at 1:00AM. 1:30AM on Friday and Saturday Get there at 12:30AM.

                                      1. re: amokscience

                                        Medium rare + 2 oz patty doesn't do a thing for it.

                                        amokscience, I had a friend go to the Allen store earlier this week in between the lunch/dinner rush (like at 2 or 3 pm), and he and his group had a 10-15 min wait. I'd suggest trying that out. Definitely avoid anytime after 4 PM.

                                        I'm surprised you never took the effort to go out there, or maybe even send someone out there, DD!

                                        1. re: air

                                          I'm off Monday. I'll try that 2-3pm time slot.

                                          Does anyone know which location would have the shortest wait time? Allen or Plano?

                                          1. re: twinwillow

                                            Frisco line was consistently 1 - 1.5 hrs to get food this afternoon. We were there mid-afternoon (2-4). I'd expect it to be better when most people are back at work / school.

                                          2. re: air

                                            We had a photog there opening day. I visited and ran a piece day 2.

                                            The whole moronic mob scene was extremely medium on the excitement scales.

                              2. Decided to bite the bullet and wait in Drive Thru today. 2 hour wait......of course it was worth the wait. Simply the best Cheeseburger in the world. Fresh, the fries.....the best. Even the shake is the best (for the money).
                                Nothing in the world like IN N OUT burger. Employees are all superior service and attitude. Glad to see Texas is embracing them......except of course for the immature haters.....you have those kind of people everywhere.....miserable humbugs.
                                Thank you IN N OUT burger. You are the best, freshest, all around best in everything.

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                                1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                  Please do not take my statement as humbuggery. I just find it silly to wait that long for much of anything except perhaps sex and a check. In 2 hours I could drive to Mary's in Strawn and have a CFS and be back in time for dinner (presumably another CFS at Allgood Cafe.

                                  Just sayin.

                                  -----
                                  Allgood Cafe
                                  2934 Main St, Dallas, TX 75226

                                  1. re: DallasDude

                                    Dallas, by the way, I did not even see this response of yours before I typed my message below and I did not ever consider you to be one of the haters. I based my response on your very first post above! You just confirmed what I said. You have always been fair, objective, and mature. Thanks again.

                                  2. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                    I guess the zeal of In-N-Out will forever be lost on me. Not saying I dislike the actual product, but I just don't get the following behind a fast food burger, nor do I understand why it's a big deal to see a massive chain (regardless of being family owned, there's no deying they are still a powerhouse) break into a town already saturated with multiple institutions that do quality burgers.

                                    I know it's been said many times but as a case study, just take a look at how Krispy Kreme, Steak and Shake were received and compare that where they are now. Somehow my gut instinct tells me it won't be any different for In-N-Out.

                                    1. re: air

                                      You make a good point. Only time will tell. However, I'm of the opinion they (INO) will flourish where KK floundered.

                                      1. re: air

                                        not to be too big of a smart ass here, but how much would you like to bet on that? In-N-Out will do very well, not just in Dallas, but in Texas. There are reasons why Krispy Kreme and Steak-N-Shake tailed off. In-N-Out has a very good product that is very reasonably priced.

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                                        Krispy Kreme
                                        3605 Ira E Woods Ave, Grapevine, TX 76051

                                        1. re: pinotho

                                          Well said!

                                        2. re: air

                                          Steak and Shake and Krispy Kreme's grand opening was NOTHING like IN N OUT's No comparison to both the number of people, around the clock and now going on the 6th day. Also, this is IN N OUT's history. Krispy also failed in CA. IN N OUT has NEVER failed. Anywhere. And at virtually every restaurant whether it be CA, NV, UT, AZ, and now Texas.....there is almost always a line to get a burger at lunch and dinner times. Always. They have NEVER failed, no location has ever closed and in Texas.....it will be the same. And it's all because they keep it simple and FRESH. "From cattle to customer in 5 days."...show me any burger joint that has that process down. And it goes for all of their ingredients......cattle, produce, etc......No more than 5 days from slaughter and pick, to the customer......it's simply amazing how they were able to replicate that burger some 2000 miles away using all different vendors....to ensure that Freshness and quality. Simply a miracle.

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                                          Krispy Kreme
                                          3605 Ira E Woods Ave, Grapevine, TX 76051

                                          1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                            Again, well said!

                                            1. re: twinwillow

                                              Thanks. And I meant to say all different vendors from the ones they use in CA. The Bread, the meat, the produce, all vendors are Texas Vendors. I can't imagine the quality control and testing that was done because that burger tasted EXACTLY like the one in CA. They pulled it off though. Any other chain would not have this problem since they are not as obsessed with Fresh ingredients to the extent IN N OUT is. It's an obsession with them unmatched.

                                              1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                                Right. I don't think (INO) they have a freezer or a microwave in any of their stores/

                                          2. re: air

                                            You can make the same argument about the current look-at-me-I'm-eating-a-taco-at-a-real-taqueria craze. I've eaten at any number of the "good' places and I don't get it but it's now fashionable to say, "Oh, I had the goat lips tacos at La Fabulosa!" And there's a reason these tacos are a $1 each.

                                            You can't talk about saturation without including the number of Tex Mex restos in this area. Yet if Fearing announced he was opening his own Tex Mex resto, some foodies would be in the corner pleasuring themselves. I mean does Dallas need another [censored] Tex Mex place yet nobody complains about that when a new Tex Mex resto opens.

                                            I don't understand the dynamics of why Krispy Kreme and Steak and Shake failed but I do know the food at both places blows. I've never had a single food item at INO that wasn't good.

                                            1. re: Scagnetti

                                              I'm just sharing my perception of Dallas diners generally getting easily swayed by fads or the next big thing from out of the area. Cupcakes, frozen yogurt, all of that came and went and I do think that stuff like cake balls, tacos and In-N-Out will run their course eventually.

                                              Many people seem to want what everyone else has that we don't instead of supporting something that may be truly unique to the area (note that I also think that Dallas doesn't have any iconic cuisines, foods, or anything destination-defining). It really is sad seeing so many people make a big fuss over some chain coming into town. Is it really that meaningful to be "first" to stake a claim on In-N-Out in this state?

                                              1. re: air

                                                I'd be the first to agree that the INO reaction has been way over the top. There's no way the food will match the hype but that's okay. It's an American cultural thing to overract to anything that has been hyped to this extent.

                                                The economic impact of a Super Bowl is conservatively $400 million dollars. What's that about? After all, it's just a football game.

                                                1. re: air

                                                  I think you're just reacting the stupid levels of hype or you've met too many cultists who've rubbed you the wrong way.

                                                  The product is better than most, business model works (elsewhere), price point is good, quality of service is above competitors, quality of organization appears to be well above the competitors, loyal customer base.

                                                  1. re: amokscience

                                                    First, I agree with Scagnetti regards his comments on the "over the top hype".
                                                    Second, I also agree with amokscience regards his valid comments regarding their successful business model and product quality.
                                                    In the long run, I believe they will flourish as well if not, better than most "chain" fast food outlets. They have a very loyal following and the vibe over the last week has been most positive. Myself, I very rarely eat "fast food" but, I love In-N-Out and will most likely eat my double, double animal style at the very least, once to twice a month. That is, provided I don't have to wait more than 15-20 minutes on line.

                                                2. re: Scagnetti

                                                  This may be the best comment I've read on here in awhile.

                                                  This trendiness thing isn't unique to Dallas though, although we do it well. There are competing macaroni and cheese restaurants in NYC. And this most recent frozen yogurt trend started in CA. As for the Tex-Mex restaurants, meh, it's like saying there are too many asian restaurants in Chinatown, too many Italian restaurants in Little Italy. It's Dallas, basically the birthplace of Tex-Mex, the good ones survive.

                                                  As for INO, I've had it in CA, not here yet. It's a burger, albeit a good one, justa burger.

                                                3. re: air

                                                  I know it's kind of hard to imagine, but I agree.

                                                  As to S&S, at the time they came to town, had foodie-fever and the foodie blogs been at the fervent pitch they are now, you'd have seen the same dust up as is being received by InO. I worked with a group of Chi-town expats and they were as insanely gaga about the "coming of S&S" then, as ex-Cali's are about InO now.

                                                  Prior to the news media blitz of the grand opening, I wonder if a survey of random Dallasites had been performed, what the outcome would show for the question "What to you think of In-n-Out Burgers".

                                                  1. re: CocoaNut

                                                    The support for INO goes far beyond ex-Californians. That's like saying the only people who eat bagels are ex-New Yorkers.

                                                    Let's face it, Dallas is a front running city whether it's the Mavs, Rangers or the trendiest new bar or resto.

                                              2. Dallas dude. I appreciate your very mature and objective response. You have always been classy and mature. We may disagree about whether IN N OUT is better or worse than other favorites here in Texas but it's nice to "agree to disagree" instead of the hate I see from a few , the minority of Texans. Clearly Texas is embracing IN N OUT burger and I appreciate your positive mature attitude. The immature haters do not represent Texas.....you do. Thanks again.

                                                1. Was driving down 75 last night at 10:30, and drove by Allen location. The line was out the door and line for the drive-thru extended out onto the street ~ a quarter mile. I'll wait just a little bit longer before I eat my In-N-Out.

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                                                  1. re: CerberaLM

                                                    Damn! I'm gonna try tomorrow after 2:30PM.

                                                    1. re: twinwillow

                                                      Reporting in. The Allen location was about 20 minutes in the drive thru at midnight Sunday. Burger was better than I remember it being... easily into my top 5 in Dallas and far better than any chain. Just all around flavorful goodness... veggies tasty, burger greasy and juicy... medium rare was not noticeable. Fries, however, were not good - often cited as a weakness - and I'll just be skipping them entirely in the future. Shake was a shake. Now I have a fantasy of an In-N-Out burger in one hand and a Shake Shack burger in the other. Just have to figure out how to bend time and space.

                                                      1. re: amokscience

                                                        Stood in line yesterday for about 45 minutes at 4:40pm in Allen. Burgers great as I remembered them to be. Got the fries crispy, may have to re-think that. Was not overwhelmed by them either. Needed some more salt on them too.

                                                        Double Double Animal Style rocked.

                                                        Shake was good, to be honest though, it's been decades since I had a shake. Can't comment on that one way or the other.

                                                        Burgers....mmmmmm

                                                      2. re: twinwillow

                                                        To long a wait today, again. Had a delicious lobster roll at Sea Breeze instead

                                                    2. After reading all of your comments, I'll try to make this brief. I think that INO is very consistent in their quality & service. The only "bad" INO I ever visited was in Lancaster, CA. Still, it was way better than any other chain restaurant around.

                                                      Chain restaurants usually rely on overly processed foods so they all can provide a uniform product. I respect INO in that they want to provide freshness and I think it is great they are using mostly Texas suppliers. I hate chain restaurants whether they are fast food or any level, but if I'm in a hurry I'd rather pick someplace like INO or Rubio's (CA fish taco chain) than anyplace else. I'd like consistency.

                                                      Since lines still seem long, I think I'll wait a while before I make a special trip there.

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                                                      1. re: Barbara76137

                                                        I am coming into Dallas/Grapevine around June 11th. Which of these locations would make the most sense if I am driving from LA into Dallas, going to Central Market, and then driving into Grapevine.
                                                        Which location is the closest to Grapevine, btw.

                                                        Do you all think the lines will be calmer by then?

                                                        1. re: Becca Porter

                                                          The one in Frisco will be the closest. http://goo.gl/maps/ztHC

                                                          The closet INO is in Irving but it hasn't opened yet.

                                                          The lines, they should be shorter.

                                                          1. re: Becca Porter

                                                            Yes, Frisco is about 15 minutes closer. Just off the 121 at Preston. Go west (left) on Preston under the 121, and it's right there on your right. Allen is a bit further down about 10 miles or so. Still long lines though.

                                                            1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                                              Eddie, coming from the Knox/Henderson 75 Uptown area, Allen or Frisco closer?

                                                              1. re: twinwillow

                                                                Oh, if you are coming up 75, than Allen is closer. It's right off the 75 on Stacey Rd. And I just read the line is a lot smaller. One guy said he was there around 7 p.m. And only had to wait about 10 minutes. Enjoy.

                                                                1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                                                  Thanks, Eddie. That's what I thought but just wanted confirmation.

                                                                  1. re: twinwillow

                                                                    Drove by the Allen location around noon on Saturday and the line was out the door and looked like about 20 people standing outside. Cars were wrapped through the parking lot as well. I would say if you go at "down times" you would have a decent shot; otherwise I'm betting still a 45 minute wait at least from the time you get in line until you get your food.

                                                                    1. re: Dallassooner

                                                                      Geeze! Well, I guess they're here to stay.

                                                                      1. re: twinwillow

                                                                        Going to IN N OUT in Frisco today around 4:00. We're going for it. Wish us luck. (Gee, feels like were going on some kind of risky life or death rescue mission in Afghanistan or something......"going for it"..."wish us luck").....how sad. LOL!

                                                                        1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                                                          LOL! Be sure and give us a report. And, how much time you spent in line.

                                                                          1. re: twinwillow

                                                                            Will do.

                                                                            Scouts out!, calvary ho!...."Were going in"! God Bless America if we don't make it back! :)

                                                                            1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                                                              Remember the Alamo! And, Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead! And, Hi-Ho Silverrrrrr!

                                                                              1. re: twinwillow

                                                                                ROFLOL! Funny...

                                                            2. re: Becca Porter

                                                              Your going to drive past 20 great local Dallas Burger joints to go get In and Out. If your just and In and Out fanatic that makes sense; if not then I'd hit one of our many other options.

                                                              1. re: Dallassooner

                                                                I think Eddie has a one track mind for this burger joint.

                                                                1. re: Dallassooner

                                                                  I hate these INO threads.
                                                                  They start me craving double-doubles and a black and white.
                                                                  The upside is my local INO is only about a mile away and lines aren't bad after lunch rush.
                                                                  (mouth watering now)

                                                                  1. re: CynAmyn

                                                                    Yeah, just returned. As usual, the tastiest freshest and best cheeseburger on the planet. (For a chain). And the wait?....Not bad. About 25 minutes. Not bad for 4:30. Drive thru was probably a bit longer but we went in and actually was able to get a table because we had a spotter who's job it was to grab the first table that opened. (my 10 year old daughter was our designated spotter).

                                                                    Anyways, all went well. The line was starting to form out the door as we left though......around 5:30 and the drive thru was getting longer too. Good experience. Over and out! Roger.......

                                                                    1. re: Eddiehaskell7

                                                                      All I can say is, INO sure did their homework before coming to North Texas. Good for them and, great for us!